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Old 10-08-2017, 10:58 AM   #1
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Diplomacy II

All right, we wrapped up our first game of Diplomacy and some of us are itching for more. Who wants in a new game?

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Old 10-08-2017, 01:35 PM   #2
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Also, any opinion on having the players be anonymous or not? We don't have to do that if people would prefer.

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Old 10-08-2017, 04:18 PM   #3
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I would say keep it anonymous. There’s clearly a strategy when people have seen others strategy. Hiding that makes it more of a guessing game.


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Old 10-08-2017, 05:05 PM   #4
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I prefer anonymous too, but could be persuaded.

Also, I'm upgrading you to the officially interested list.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:25 PM   #5
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I figured that would be what you got from that


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Old 10-08-2017, 07:44 PM   #6
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:09 AM   #7
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Definitely keep things anonymous. Otherwise I might not survive long this time.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:08 AM   #8
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Definitely keep things anonymous. Otherwise I might not survive long this time.


Survive, yes. Be banished from this website? Perhaps.


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Old 10-10-2017, 02:54 PM   #10
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Maybe this time I'll pay attention. I still don't understand how we can call it diplomacy, there is only war, no trade.
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I think it's the collective form of the noun, actually.
"What's an anonymous group of assholes called?"
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:48 PM   #11
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Maybe this time I'll pay attention. I still don't understand how we can call it diplomacy, there is only war, no trade.
Wait, you really want to play???

Definition of diplomacy
1 :the art and practice of conducting negotiations between nations

The players in Diplomacy are at war, yes. You must conduct the negotiations necessary to win that war. I honestly don't understand why you keep insisting that "trade" (necessarily) has anything to do with it.
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I do want to play.

But to argue my point, negotiations require leverage; How do you prevent Iran from developing Nuclear Weapons? You threaten them with trade sanctions if they do, which would cripple their economy, which would destroy the leaders ability to govern.

It works internally too; see the current Catalan crisis in Spain.


If the only resolution is alliance building and attacking each other, you have a perpetual war.

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Old 10-10-2017, 05:15 PM   #13
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I do want to play.
I'm all for it if you stick with it this time. Not that your non-participation didn't help me immensely.
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But to argue my point, negotiations require leverage; How do you prevent Iran from developing Nuclear Weapons? You threaten them with trade sanctions if they do, which would cripple their economy, which would destroy the leaders ability to govern.

It works internally too; see the current Catalan crisis in Spain.


If the only resolution is alliance building and attacking each other, you have a perpetual war.
Well, our game ended, didn't it? See?... not perpetual war.

I mean, sure, this classic board game with an elegantly minimal set of actions available doesn't model every possible negotiation available in the real world. But the key to winning is negotiating with what leverage you have.

Items that might be used as leverage:
1) The strength of your armies and navies
2) The information you have about other nations' plans
3) The "information" you are willing to "share" with other nations
4) The weight of your power of persuasion
5) Weak human emotions
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:33 AM   #14
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If a spot is still available i'll play
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:56 AM   #15
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Indeed there is! And one more after that. A prize for whoever can recruit one more person!

(The prize is you get to play a game of Diplomacy.)
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:03 AM   #16
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Dualshotty23 says he'll play. He's in a meeting so can't get on the boards to post but I texted him about it.
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All right!!
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:36 AM   #18
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I'll get the game created in a bit here. Everyone is committed to playing out the game this time, right?
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:30 PM   #19
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Game is created. Invites sent out via PM.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:15 PM   #20
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