Underpowered Bosses/Final Levels

[scythe]

Originally Posted by Gorvi

All the bosses in R2 were much, much easier than they should have been. I started the game again on hard but I haven't gotten to any of the big ones yet, but I hope they put up more of a fight than they did on Normal. The whole game felt too easy to me.

Agreed. And I just beat the game. violent was right. That was one of the biggest "fuck you" endings I've ever seen.

[Blue]

This sucks to hear about R2 as I know for sure that I'm getting it for Christmas. Maybe I'll start the game on hard from the get-go.

And as others have said: Bioshock. I'll also throw a vote in for The Darkness, though nothing in that game was terribly difficult. The final dude in Uncharted was easy but the level on the boat leading up to him made me want to bite my controller in half.

[violent]

I'm replaying it now on the hardest setting. Should have done that the first time.

[Blue]

Originally Posted by violent

I'm replaying it now on the hardest setting. Should have done that the first time.

Is it that the entire game itself is too much of a breeze or is it just the bosses?

[Gorvi]

Originally Posted by Blue

Is it that the entire game itself is too much of a breeze or is it just the bosses?

Some encounters were tough, but all in all the game isn't that hard, at least on normal. There are a few moments, one in particular with the grimms in a movie theater, where you want to punch a dev, but all in all it's not too hard. Still fun, sure, but not too hard.

Originally Posted by scythe

Agreed. And I just beat the game. violent was right. That was one of the biggest "fuck you" endings I've ever seen.

I hated the ending to R2. Hated it. I enjoyed the single player game well enough, but that ending soured me enough to put the game down for a few weeks before getting into the (incredibly awesome) co-op mode. Did I mention I hated the ending?

[violent]

Originally Posted by Blue

Is it that the entire game itself is too much of a breeze or is it just the bosses?

The game is kinda tough on normal. Mostly because of the barrage of bullets shot at you. Me personally, I should have learned to never go anything less than the hardest difficulty after CoD2 on Veteran. Something I failed to do yet again in Gears 2.

[rinichanraar]

Originally Posted by pomeroy

Indeed. It was almost as good as his football player "I'ma fuck you up" entrance.

One of these days we're going to have an entire Horde team of Coles, and it's going to be beautiful.

If I die early, I'm going to request that you all stand in a line and form a Cole Train so I can take a photo and submit it (as soon as I figure out how).

Originally Posted by violent

The game is kinda tough on normal. Mostly because of the barrage of bullets shot at you. Me personally, I should have learned to never go anything less than the hardest difficulty after CoD2 on Veteran. Something I failed to do yet again in Gears 2.

If you have or get CoD: WaW and try it out on Veteran, please tell me how it goes. When I did CoD4, I got a little past halfway on Veteran, and I never finished it. (I stopped at the end of One Shot, One Kill. The part where you're with MacMillan near the ferris wheel and have to defend yourself till the helicopter shows up.) With CoD: WaW, I started it on Veteran and stopped midway through the first level because I remembered how much I disliked the first level and didn't want to fight my way through it on Veteran. I heard CoD2 on Veteran was brutal.

[violent]

Originally Posted by rinichanraar

If you have or get CoD: WaW and try it out on Veteran, please tell me how it goes. When I did CoD4, I got a little past halfway on Veteran, and I never finished it. (I stopped at the end of One Shot, One Kill. The part where you're with MacMillan near the ferris wheel and have to defend yourself till the helicopter shows up.) With CoD: WaW, I started it on Veteran and stopped midway through the first level because I remembered how much I disliked the first level and didn't want to fight my way through it on Veteran. I heard CoD2 on Veteran was brutal.

CoD2 on Veteran is the one achievement I'm proud of on my 360. Me and a handful of friends decided it was the way to go and only 2 of us saw it through. After all the torment there was an immense satisfaction once it was done. From that point on, when it comes to the FPS, the hardest setting is definitely the way to go for me because in the end, I know I can beat it. Even if the apprehension is choking just prior to making the choice.

Letting go of the game due to frustration is a very understandable thing. God knows if I wasn't a calm gamer, shit in here would have been broken pretty early on. I haven't been very interested in WaW to be honest, I need fewer war fps's and more monster fps's at this point. Give me a good monster fps and I'll certainly hit it on hard. Though I might be tempted to finish CoD4 now that we're on the subject (halfway on Vet prior to losing interest).

The biggest argument I can make though in regards to playing a game on hard is all the stuff you miss. This may sound like a bad thing but after spending an hour trying to crawl my way across the remains of a building with hundreds of bullets just over my head and grenades landing all around me, I finally make it to the tank in one piece and I'm finally able to down it with a little C4. In that one moment when it's all said and done, I finally get the opportunity to look up long enough to notice all the bombers crossing the sky. That, is the good stuff.

[pseudopseudo]

Originally Posted by pomeroy

Gears of War 2's end was way too easy.

This.

That boss "battle" was so short and easy - I kind of felt ripped off.

[Scull]

Uncharted had a horrible boss fight. It is a stupid QTE.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by pseudopseudo

This.

That boss "battle" was so short and easy - I kind of felt ripped off.

The next one will probably be JUST right. Cause in the first game, dude was a little tough. They probably made it easy cause of all the bitchin.

[rinichanraar]

Originally Posted by violent

CoD2 on Veteran is the one achievement I'm proud of on my 360. Me and a handful of friends decided it was the way to go and only 2 of us saw it through. After all the torment there was an immense satisfaction once it was done. From that point on, when it comes to the FPS, the hardest setting is definitely the way to go for me because in the end, I know I can beat it. Even if the apprehension is choking just prior to making the choice.

Letting go of the game due to frustration is a very understandable thing. God knows if I wasn't a calm gamer, shit in here would have been broken pretty early on. I haven't been very interested in WaW to be honest, I need fewer war fps's and more monster fps's at this point. Give me a good monster fps and I'll certainly hit it on hard. Though I might be tempted to finish CoD4 now that we're on the subject (halfway on Vet prior to losing interest).

The biggest argument I can make though in regards to playing a game on hard is all the stuff you miss. This may sound like a bad thing but after spending an hour trying to crawl my way across the remains of a building with hundreds of bullets just over my head and grenades landing all around me, I finally make it to the tank in one piece and I'm finally able to down it with a little C4. In that one moment when it's all said and done, I finally get the opportunity to look up long enough to notice all the bombers crossing the sky. That, is the good stuff.

Yeah, you should definitely be proud of yourself for beating CoD2 on Veteran. It sounds hellish! I didn't stop playing CoD4 because of frustration, but mostly because I picked up the game late and, after doing the campaign on Normal, started playing it on Veteran as a way to pass time before more games I was excited about were released. I finished a few more levels a few weeks ago, and it would definitely be satisfying to finish the game, though I'm pretty worried about doing "No Fighting in the War Room" on the hardest level.

I understand your disinterest in CoD: WaW. To be honest, aside from me, I don't know too many people who own it or enjoyed it.

[MalReynolds]

Fable 2 and Gears 2

[Blue]

Originally Posted by Gorvi

Some encounters were tough, but all in all the game isn't that hard, at least on normal. There are a few moments, one in particular with the grimms in a movie theater, where you want to punch a dev, but all in all it's not too hard. Still fun, sure, but not too hard.

There were a few instances like that in R1 for me (I believe one had to do with a subway station, maybe?) where either the checkpoints were spaced apart as such to where I had to replay it multiple times along with those dudes who shoot through walls making me want to gut someone. I don't necessarily see that as difficulty so much as poor decision making on the dev's part. But good to know that I have to look out for a theater now

Originally Posted by violent

The game is kinda tough on normal. Mostly because of the barrage of bullets shot at you. Me personally, I should have learned to never go anything less than the hardest difficulty after CoD2 on Veteran. Something I failed to do yet again in Gears 2.

Ah, okay. I honestly felt the same way with Gears and wish I had ramped up the difficulty more (though I haven't played CoD on Veteran). But that's good to know that maybe I'm in the same boat in terms of where to put R2's difficulty. Thanks.

[Chris_D]

Originally Posted by Xerxes

So, I was just thinking about KoToR and all the time I put into it. And how Malek wasn't that fulfilling of a kill. He was overpowered and outclassed by time I made it to him. Then being able to use his trick to keep him weak, made it even easier.

Share some of your weak ending moments. Not weak story but last levels or boss fights.

Malek will actually kick your ass if you make the wrong skill choices in leveling up. It's a little rare I think but I managed to do it and had to go back about 3 hours to a previous save just before I max leveled so I could get the skill I needed to beat him.

It comes down to the bodies he uses to recharge his health from. You either need a skill to disable them (which I think was either neutral or a light side skill), or better, a skill to drain them yourself (a dark side skill). I think there were 3 or maybe more skills that met this criteria. Somehow I managed to choose almost every skill but these for my character and royally screwed myself over. I could take him down fairly low but he would always regenerate before I could defeat him. Irritating!

[Wellscha]

Devil May Cry 2.

The worst final boss/fight ever.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by Chris_D

Malek will actually kick your ass if you make the wrong skill choices in leveling up. It's a little rare I think but I managed to do it and had to go back about 3 hours to a previous save just before I max leveled so I could get the skill I needed to beat him.

It comes down to the bodies he uses to recharge his health from. You either need a skill to disable them (which I think was either neutral or a light side skill), or better, a skill to drain them yourself (a dark side skill). I think there were 3 or maybe more skills that met this criteria. Somehow I managed to choose almost every skill but these for my character and royally screwed myself over. I could take him down fairly low but he would always regenerate before I could defeat him. Irritating!

I didn't even know it was possible. I played grey but finished on the Dark. Killed Jolee, and I drained them bodies, and Malek. When I got there he was such a pushover.

[Superman's Dead]

Fallout 3! What a letdown. I hardly even got to kill any badguys once I hit the point of no return.

Edit: I think it's worth noting games that you THINK were easy, and then the real boss hits. Kirby's Adventures was one of my favorite games of all time for this very reason.

[Dukefrukem]

Originally Posted by National Kato

Huh? Never touches you? Did I play a different game?

As long as you don't stop moving in any direection, except directly towards it, it never harms you.

[Wombat]

I keep hearing that COD 2 Veteran was very difficult on the 360. I played it on the PC, and it was certainly difficult, but not that bad. What was the difference, apart from controller vs. mouse?