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Bioware Promises "Clarification" For Mass Effect 3 Ending Coming Soon
![]() Time to start up the controversy train again! Today Bioware founder Ray Muzyka took to the company's blog to elaborate on their response to the controversy over the ending to Mass Effect 3. Muzyka's full statement can be viewed by clicking the 'more' button, but here's the key section. Quote:
The response to this has, so far been interesting. People complaining that the "real" ending will be sold as DLC. Others complaining that Bioware "caved" to the complainers. Still others arguing that changing the ending is artistically bankrupt. And that's just the tip of the discussion. Really it's a fascinating look at the nature of artistic ownership. Of course Bioware owns Mass Effect, but at the same time they also want to keep the goodwill of customers, and that means at least some pandering to popular whim. It's a discussion that's been swirling since we all first heard the term 'Midichlorian', but it's really come to a head here. Frankly I think the controversy is fascinating, but I'm strange. What to I think? I felt the ending wasn't quite what I wanted, but didn't hate it (and lets keep this thread spoiler-free for those who haven't beaten it yet). I didn't find it that unclear, just a bit lackluster. But I don't really think a different ending would be any better. You can't put the genie back in the bottle as they say. Here's Muzyka's letter in full. Muzyka also confirmed that, surprise, more games are planned for the Mass Effect franchise in the future. Source - Bioware |
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What's that saying about haters?
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As I was wondering about in the other thread. I see many parallels to the leaker who leaked information about the April DLC "The Truth" that was from someone who has leaked data before. Weirdness.
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I'm not even through ME1 and mine eyes are ablaze with all the hate from ME3 ending. I"ve seen it here, reddit, and other sites.
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"...the passionate reaction of some of our most loyal players to the current endings in Mass Effect 3 is something that has genuinely surprised us."
How about that |
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Lets hope whomever does the decision making doesn't decide to charge for this DLC if it is 'the ending'. I know they will probably throw it up for money, but god the shitstorm that will bring down.
The game was great, the ending wasn't, but here's hoping they learn from it.
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![]() OT: I too had a huge wtf moment at the end but had a sneaking suspicion about a DLC ending when I read that I had become a legend... If this isnt a patch and is sold then I REALLY hope people boycott it so this shit doesn't become the norm, but remembering Modern Warfare 2s boycott... ![]() /me goes for a beer |
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I think listening to player feedback and providing free content as a result is a gold-star awesome move. If they charge people for it, then it's bullshit.
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The range of emotions that I've felt over this whole situation is unprecedented for me as a gamer.
At first, while I was still in the process of playing through the game, I was angry at the fan base for their reaction to the ending. "What a bunch of self-entitled whiny babies," I thought. "Really? We're going to hate on Mass Effect and Bioware now?" I just couldn't fathom how an ending could be so bad that it would turn so many against such a loved franchise. As I continued through the game, I became more and more convinced that I would side with Bioware's artistic decisions about the ending, whatever they were. Mass Effect 3 is just so damn good. And it continued to be good, right up until those last 10 minutes. My initial reaction to the ending was pretty neutral. I went in wanting to like it, just to fly in the face of all the haters. After the credits rolled, I remember thinking to myself, "Well, that wasn't TOO bad. Certainly not worth getting worked up about. I'm anxious to go and play the other two endings to see the differences." I watched the outcome of all three possible decisions that you can make at the end, and that's when my neutrality shifted to disappointment. It wasn't that it was bad... No, it was far worse than that. It was lazy. Disappointment turned to sadness as I considered more of the loose ends and read the well thought out reactions of others. It's just a missed opportunity. If it was any other game, maybe I wouldn't have cared as much. But this is Mass Effect. It was supposed to be something different, something special. In the end, I find myself siding with those calling for a different ending. I just can't justify the support of the ending in its current state. There is no argument for it. I see an opportunity here for something else unprecedented. A major creative change to a finished product. What if they pulled this off? What if they released a wildly different ending? Has something like this ever been done before? I would love to see Mass Effect end with the same level of quality and emotion that is so consistent during the other 74.8 hours of game play. This post gives me hope. The fact that I find myself caring so much says a lot. Come on Bioware!
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Well, this is certainly a step back for 'games as art' if they do change the ending.
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I sincerely hope that they don't change the ending. No one should ever have to change their vision of their story. In my opinion, if they actually change the ending that will set a horrible precedent for the future of interactive entertainment and could discourage innovation such as what we've seen in the Mass Effect series. I can't speak to everyone that was dissatisfied with the ending, but from my perspective I just want more exposition on the events of the ending because as is it just doesn't make any real sense to me. Developers should never have to be afraid to take chances and limit their ambitions because of how people may react. Art is meant to be subjective and meant to evoke emotion and to make you think, but in this particular case it (once again I am speaking only to how I feel about it) it wasn't an emotional reaction based on the events of the story or cause me to think about whats next and what might happen. The events that transpired simply made no sense in the context of the story and there was no effort to explain them, which left me confused and as if the trust I had placed in this team to give me this story (which was a bond forged when I purchased all three games) was broken. In the final arc of the story which promises to end the conflict and answer questions is to me unacceptable and doesn't seem intentional, it seems like really poor writing and the product of simply running out of time and not having any other option. If the team behind creating this franchise truly believes that this is the ending they wanted the series to have, I urge them not to do a damn thing. It just doesn't seem like the case though. This is the first time anyone has ever attempted to pull off a game like this, so I hope at worst its a learning experience to BioWare and anyone else who attempts something of this nature. Not a lesson to never try.
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Cyndair and Vandabo - That mirrors my reactions as well. I came on here after finishing it and said I wasn't upset with the ending (I'm still not), but the more I thought and read on it, the more I realised how much of a polar opposite the ending is to all the core themes of the 3 games.
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I will be so happy if they change it. They knew it was rushed, pointed out that they were rushing, didn't have an ending planned for a 3 game series until less than 2 months before primary deadline. It was a botched job and they are fessing up to it. I am cool with that.
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That to me is the worst thing. If they change the ending Bioware is admitting that they're not trying to make the best story, they're trying to make a story which causes the least controversy.
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GAH - I haven't beaten the game yet but Jesus it's hard to not want to find out what all the fuss is about.
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