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Old 08-14-2011, 06:54 AM   #181
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Most places I have worked have stipulations in place that you cant have employee - boss relationships. One of my previous bosses was fired for exactly this reason. In the political realm I would imagine it would be even worse.

Perhaps it is different outside Canada.
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I'd say ethics would apply more to positions of power such as teaching. Not sure interns would count, since you can't give them higher grades or such, I suppose you could advance their careers quicker, but then any shagging the boss scenario would be an ethics issue.
Interns are pretty vulnerable to the whims of the people they serve. They're in a definate position of power over these people. There might not be letter grades, but theres definately paths to power and success that can directly opened or closed by the people above you.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:30 AM   #183
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Before you guys get too far on this: he was an intern to Oregon Representative Kim Thatcher, not to the Mayor himself. Also, if you can believe it, his name was Beau Breedlove.
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Before you guys get too far on this: he was an intern to Oregon Representative Kim Thatcher, not to the Mayor himself. Also, if you can believe it, his name was Beau Breedlove.
Well that makes a pretty huge difference then.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:08 PM   #185
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Wow, he is very attractive. I may have to track down some more photos.

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Old 08-22-2011, 08:37 PM   #186
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The Suquamish tribe of Native Americans, outside Seattle on the Puget Sound, voted unanimously to allow gay marriage in their tribe:

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This spring, a young woman stood up at the tribe’s annual meeting on its reservation here on Puget Sound and asked it to formally approve same-sex marriage. The response from the 300 or so people present was an enthusiastic “yes” in a voice vote. There was no audible dissent. Then, after another, smaller meeting (still no opposition) and a little work by the tribal attorney, the tribal council voted unanimously this month to approve same-sex marriage.

No court fights. No ballot measures. No billionaires behind the scenes.

“Throughout my life I’ve not always felt a part of the tribe, even though I’m so involved in it,” said Ms. Purser, who is in a relationship but does not plan to marry soon. “This acceptance of gay marriage, when the tribe said, ‘O.K. we’re behind you,’ it took away so much of that old pain, and I really feel like I’m so much a part of the community again. I’m really proud of my people. I’m really proud to be Suquamish. We’re even more open and accepting than I thought we were.”
There are about 1,050 members of the tribe: half of them live on the reservation. For them, the issue was raised by a friend, a face that they knew, a voice they had spoken with -- is that why the vote went so cleanly? It is easy to fear and even hate something you know only from imagination and agitprop, and very few same-sex couples live openly in the rural areas that vote consistently against their right to marry.
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Might as well resurrect this topic, since it's been in the news a lot lately.

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Amen, Clint.

Even if I was a conservative, I would consider this a distraction from the important issues: I'd say let them get married, and then we can funnel all this campaign money and effort into something we really care about, like taxes or healthcare or something.
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Amen, Clint.

Even if I was a conservative, I would consider this a distraction from the important issues: I'd say let them get married, and then we can funnel all this campaign money and effort into something we really care about, like taxes or healthcare or something.
Ah, but a huge chunk of the GOP cares about this, so now all conservatives "care" about it.
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Ah, but a huge chunk of the GOP cares about this, so now all conservatives "care" about it.
Yeah, this is actually an example of politicians being mindful of their constituents, something that should be viewed as a good thing. You don't think they would be pushing this if it didn't appeal to their base.
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I would love to see a bracket made of all the various issues facing the country, and have them all face off. I'd really be interested if same sex marriage got past the quarterfinals. Even assuming very strong religious feelings, is it really trumping the economy, the war on terror, healthcare, immigration, social security, etc?

If you just handed someone a card with 15 of these issues on it, and said "We are going to work on 5 of them, which do you nominate?" would this really be one?
I'm sure studies like this must have been done, but I'm not really into digging up stuff like that right now.

I guess the mindset is just so completely bizarre to me that I might vastly underestimate it's importance to people.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:38 PM   #192
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How clueless can you be? Gays caused all of those problems. 9/11 was God's punishment for our nation's embrace of homosexuality, as was the War in Iraq, the recession, Hurricane Katrina, etc.

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How clueless can you be? Gays caused all of those problems. 9/11 was God's punishment for our nation's embrace of homosexuality, as was the War in Iraq, the recession, Hurricane Katrina, etc.

Duh.
Well, you've convinced me!
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Well, you've convinced me!
I think it would terrify you how important gay marriage and abortion actually rank among a certain demographic. I actually have read reports much along the lines of what you are suggesting.
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My sister is lesbian, so both these issues directly impact her. They are very important to her.
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My sister is lesbian, so both these issues directly impact her. They are very important to her.
I'm only talking about trying to ban or prevent it. Like the Clint Eastwood quote above, just let anyone get married however they want and lets move on to matters that impact everyone.
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How clueless can you be? Gays caused all of those problems. 9/11 was God's punishment for our nation's embrace of homosexuality, as was the War in Iraq, the recession, Hurricane Katrina, etc.

Duh.
Wow really? Why wouldn't I want to on the friendly side of a group who can cause disasters at will?


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Yeah, this is actually an example of politicians being mindful of their constituents, something that should be viewed as a good thing. You don't think they would be pushing this if it didn't appeal to their base.
The problem is their base is a bunch of nut jobs. Their base should be lower taxes, more efficient government and protection of personal freedoms from government intervention. Instead all that crap tends to take a backseat so we can scream "Queers!" for no reason. It reminds me of Chappelle and the Black Bush skit.

Then again, I'm not sure the GOP has been really conservative for a long time. Social conservative maybe, but not anywhere else. I wish the fucking party would hurry up and implode, but its not going to happen. When Romney loses they'll play the "not conservative enough" card and we'll be doing this same song and dance again in 4 years.
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Then again, I'm not sure the GOP has been really conservative for a long time. Social conservative maybe, but not anywhere else. I wish the fucking party would hurry up and implode, but its not going to happen. When Romney loses they'll play the "not conservative enough" card and we'll be doing this same song and dance again in 4 years.
With any luck that means they'll nominate Santorum in 2016, get crushed even harder, and be unable to blame it on centrism.
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Actually, the problem is youth voters. They didn't show up for mid-term elections, so the failed tactic of energizing the right-base in 2008 worked again in 2010.

Also, this tactic works very well in red states and jerry-mandered districts, so the campaign managers for the GOP don't know any other songs.

Finally, they can't campaign on reality because people wouldn't vote for tax-cuts for the rich, no fiscal responsibility, and destroying Social Security/Medicaid.

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