Super Meat Boy! - Page 3

Ravenlock · 12-04-2010, 07:09 PM

Hunh. So that's another show I might start watching. Those guys are entertaining.

And they did guest spots on the incredibly awesome Bytejacker, so that's a plus too.

kyrieee · 12-04-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lint of Death

I wish I could give you advice from my personal experience, but I get the impression that effective strategies for keyboards do not translate to gamepads. I use the run button a lot more than I suspect I'm supposed to because it often allows for better air control.

Yeah I agree that it does but I don't know how that'd be different with a controller.

axion · 12-05-2010, 09:41 AM

So I got this as well. On the leaderboards am I correct to think that the top score is hidden from view so you don't know what time to beat? I'm first on a couple... in Worlds 1 and 2.

Lint of Death · 12-05-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrieee

Yeah I agree that it does but I don't know how that'd be different with a controller.

Well, the gamepad uses the analog stick to move, right? The keyboard keys are binary, so either you're inputting the maximum change in movement or the minimum (zero). That makes it easier to adjust a faster Meat Boy because you're less likely to overcompensate.

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Originally Posted by axion

So I got this as well. On the leaderboards am I correct to think that the top score is hidden from view so you don't know what time to beat? I'm first on a couple... in Worlds 1 and 2.

The number 1 spot became hidden in either this patch or the previous. I suspect it's a bug.

Lint of Death · 12-05-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Handmade.Mercury

You know, I only just realized that

I just realized something else:
(Ch. 5 spoilers contained)

kyrieee · 12-05-2010, 02:07 PM

6-5 was fun, I like that kind of difficulty much more than enemies. The hard part of me is just figuring out how to do something the first time, once I do I can execute it most of the time.

Enemies are too unpredictable, makes every run different.

Handmade.Mercury · 12-05-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kyrieee

6-5 was fun, I like that kind of difficulty much more than enemies. The hard part of me is just figuring out how to do something the first time, once I do I can execute it most of the time.

Enemies are too unpredictable, makes every run different.

They all spawn in the same place, and react to you the same way, so if you take the same path, they do the exact same thing.

kyrieee · 12-05-2010, 03:51 PM

Well in practice you're not going to do exactly 100% the same movements every run. I prefer obstacles that behave the same way every time.

Anyway, the last boss fight is bugged. I got to the end 20+ times before looking it up on youtube and

Suave Peanut · 12-05-2010, 06:02 PM

I'm up to 6-5 now and I have A+ on every Light World level before this!

I always die at the part with the key, either on the fall down or right after.

kyrieee · 12-06-2010, 09:24 AM

I've managed to grab the bandage and get back two or three times on 4-17 using Meat Boy but I've died each time. I don't think you're supposed to be able to do it with him but I've been so close!!

edit: meh spent 4 hours on it, don't think it's doable

TheFlyingOrc · 12-06-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrieee

I've managed to grab the bandage and get back two or three times on 4-17 using Meat Boy but I've died each time. I don't think you're supposed to be able to do it with him but I've been so close!!

edit: meh spent 4 hours on it, don't think it's doable

I'm almost 100% certain it can be done.

Also, it's almost cute the way everyone is talking about light world levels like they mean anything. That's the PRACTICE game. (except for the warp zones)

edit: I'm really looking forward to everyone raging about dark world/cotton alley levels.

kyrieee · 12-06-2010, 11:12 AM

I can get back, Orc, but the lava boulders are too frequent. You need lots of jumps to get back and there's no place you can pause and adjust the timing. If you try to brute force it with luck then maybe it can be done. You can jump straight from the bandage wall to the lower ledge and if you land high enough you can get up, I've done that too but the timing window would be extremely narrow since you need to dodge the thing on your way down too and you will have lots of lateral movement right in its path.

Lint of Death · 12-06-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingOrc

I'm almost 100% certain it can be done.

Also, it's almost cute the way everyone is talking about light world levels like they mean anything. That's the PRACTICE game. (except for the warp zones)

Hey, I'm not! I think we agree that the Kid warp is legitimately hard. Oh, and I beat it anyway

TheFlyingOrc · 12-06-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lint of Death

Hey, I'm not! I think we agree that the Kid warp is legitimately hard. Oh, and I beat it anyway

What's amazing is that, right now, you are NOWHERE NEAR as good as you'll be by the time you finish the majority of the dark world (Dr. Fetus dark WILL make you yell at your television, I absolutely promise). I can beat the Kid's levels in 4-5 tries each now. Of course, nearly 10k deaths will do that for ya.

Also, you guys can't catch me. Due to a glitch, I have 101 bandages.

Lint of Death · 12-06-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrieee

I've managed to grab the bandage and get back two or three times on 4-17 using Meat Boy but I've died each time. I don't think you're supposed to be able to do it with him but I've been so close!!

edit: meh spent 4 hours on it, don't think it's doable

I just launched the game to see which bandage 4-17 was, then try to get it so I could give you tips. When I looked, though, I saw that I already had it! So you can do it.

edit: Looking at that stage I probably got the bandage using Ogmo. Honestly, though, you should just go for unlocking Flywrench. The game gets even easier with that thing.

kyrieee · 12-06-2010, 11:47 AM

Well, I wanted to do it with Meat Boy just to see if it could be done :P

TheFlyingOrc · 12-06-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lint of Death

edit: Looking at that stage I probably got the bandage using Ogmo. Honestly, though, you should just go for unlocking Flywrench. The game gets even easier with that thing.

I found Flywrench incredibly difficult to use in most circumstances, due to his very poor horizontal movement, plus his lacking 3rd jump. If I needed extra jumps, I always went with the kid. Once you have the Kid, there's little point to Ogmo or Flywrench (and little point to Jill).

My swiss army knife was Meat Boy usually, followed heavily by the Kid, followed by Tim (he just breaks some levels), a few places where Spelunky is Godlike. There are so many levels in Cotton Alley/Warp zones where I would kill to use the kid, but no dice.

Kyrieee: I'll give it a shot when I get home. I remember the hole being very narrow, but my Meat Fu is pretty much Godlike at this point, so that'll be your answer.

Lint of Death · 12-06-2010, 05:19 PM

Well, on PC, Flywrench is amazing. Admittedly a part of this is due to a bug that allows you to make that first, longest jump mid-air. The bug affects a large number of characters including Flywrench, Ogmo, the Kid, and Josef. It's triggered by leaving any surface without jumping - falling off a ledge, zipping up a conveyor belt, dropping off a wall all allow for it (Commander Video seems to suffer the reverse, sadly, as he can't float if he runs off an edge). And Flywrench can use his jump to move directly up walls, so if he leaves the wall by going above it, he can still take advantage of the glitch.

Even if that weren't true, though, I'd still love Flywrench. The first jump is great, I consider the other two to be the kind of air control that's a blessing for keyboards - plus being able to stay at a certain height for longer is frequently an advantage. The main thing I like, though, is being able to slide directly up walls. Never having to leave a wall breaks a ton of levels. This becomes especially great because Flywrench is unusually thin!

MagGnome · 12-06-2010, 06:02 PM

Orc is clearly obsessed with Meat.

kyrieee · 12-06-2010, 06:20 PM

Where do you get this amazing Flywrench?

12-04-2010, 07:09 PM	#41
Ravenlock Thx for the scarf, Sadie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 6,200	Hunh. So that's another show I might start watching. Those guys are entertaining. And they did guest spots on the incredibly awesome Bytejacker, so that's a plus too. __________________ Steam ID: Ravenlock -- XBL / GFWL Gamertag: Ravenlock80 -- Twitter: Ravenlock 3DS Friend Code: 4725-8046-8330 <Whore> Listen to me rant on the Immortal Machines PC Gaming Podcast! I also run Erratic Gamer, and sometimes write about games there. </Whore>

12-05-2010, 03:51 PM	#48
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	Well in practice you're not going to do exactly 100% the same movements every run. I prefer obstacles that behave the same way every time. Anyway, the last boss fight is bugged. I got to the end 20+ times before looking it up on youtube and In my version Dr. Fetus just goes straight through the sawblades. Yay Then at the end he just stands there and can't be dropped into the abyss. Last edited by kyrieee; 12-05-2010 at 03:54 PM.

12-05-2010, 06:02 PM	#49
Suave Peanut don't let's start Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 5,861 Blog Entries: 6	I'm up to 6-5 now and I have A+ on every Light World level before this! I always die at the part with the key, either on the fall down or right after. __________________ • PSN : Steam : XBL •

12-06-2010, 09:24 AM	#50
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	I've managed to grab the bandage and get back two or three times on 4-17 using Meat Boy but I've died each time. I don't think you're supposed to be able to do it with him but I've been so close!! edit: meh spent 4 hours on it, don't think it's doable Last edited by kyrieee; 12-06-2010 at 10:39 AM.

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12-05-2010, 02:07 PM	#46
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	6-5 was fun, I like that kind of difficulty much more than enemies. The hard part of me is just figuring out how to do something the first time, once I do I can execute it most of the time. Enemies are too unpredictable, makes every run different.

12-06-2010, 11:12 AM	#52
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	I can get back, Orc, but the lava boulders are too frequent. You need lots of jumps to get back and there's no place you can pause and adjust the timing. If you try to brute force it with luck then maybe it can be done. You can jump straight from the bandage wall to the lower ledge and if you land high enough you can get up, I've done that too but the timing window would be extremely narrow since you need to dodge the thing on your way down too and you will have lots of lateral movement right in its path.

12-06-2010, 11:47 AM	#56
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	Well, I wanted to do it with Meat Boy just to see if it could be done :P

12-06-2010, 05:19 PM	#58
Lint of Death Dustbunny of Doom Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NGS 549672 Posts: 5,138 Blog Entries: 4	Well, on PC, Flywrench is amazing. Admittedly a part of this is due to a bug that allows you to make that first, longest jump mid-air. The bug affects a large number of characters including Flywrench, Ogmo, the Kid, and Josef. It's triggered by leaving any surface without jumping - falling off a ledge, zipping up a conveyor belt, dropping off a wall all allow for it (Commander Video seems to suffer the reverse, sadly, as he can't float if he runs off an edge). And Flywrench can use his jump to move directly up walls, so if he leaves the wall by going above it, he can still take advantage of the glitch. Even if that weren't true, though, I'd still love Flywrench. The first jump is great, I consider the other two to be the kind of air control that's a blessing for keyboards - plus being able to stay at a certain height for longer is frequently an advantage. The main thing I like, though, is being able to slide directly up walls. Never having to leave a wall breaks a ton of levels. This becomes especially great because Flywrench is unusually thin!

12-06-2010, 06:20 PM	#60
kyrieee RAWR Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,861	Where do you get this amazing Flywrench?