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Old 09-23-2010, 09:19 AM   #1
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PS3 3D Blu-ray playback loses lossless audio

Not that this affects me as i have no 3DTV


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Blu-Ray.com's Joshua Wingfield tested the 3D playback: "I can confirm that with the PS3 3.50 firmware update it only puts the audio out as DTS standard (lossy) in the bitstream mode. Also the menus on Coraline are flattened to 2D. Subtitles still show up in 3D mode, and so do menus. The image just flattens." Note that he didn't seem too put off by the limitation, saying, "So for now 3D on the PS3...full 1080p to each eye, but no HD audio and no 3D on menu screens or pop up menus. Can't say I'm disappointed."

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Old 09-23-2010, 09:41 AM   #2
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I'm glad I decided to get a new 3D Blu-Ray player. I am very serious about my audio and that is unacceptable to me. It also loads discs much faster than the PS3. Hopefully they will fix the issue in a future update.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:43 AM   #3
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I'm glad I decided to get a new 3D Blu-Ray player. I am very serious about my audio and that is unacceptable to me. It also loads discs much faster than the PS3. Hopefully they will fix the issue in a future update.
Eh another useless feature for me. I have yet to see any 3D movies in the theaters. I also don't even own a HDTV
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:48 AM   #4
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Eh another useless feature for me. I have yet to see any 3D movies in the theaters. I also don't even own a HDTV
So Blu-ray as a whole is useless to you.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:12 AM   #5
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Maybe it's because the PS3 still only has HDMI 1.3, and there's not enough bandwidth or some limitation in the protocol for both 3D and lossless audio?

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Old 09-23-2010, 10:13 AM   #6
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I just got a HDMI receiver and I love HD audio (Joe Public probably couldn't tell the difference). I'm not interested in being a beta tester for 3D technology so this doesn't affect me but I'd be pissed if I owned 3D blurays and a 3D tv because those people definitely care about their audio/video quality.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:29 AM   #7
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I just got a HDMI receiver and I love HD audio (Joe Public probably couldn't tell the difference). I'm not interested in being a beta tester for 3D technology so this doesn't affect me but I'd be pissed if I owned 3D blurays and a 3D tv because those people definitely care about their audio/video quality.
Most people can't tell the difference between good compression and HD audio. Most people that say the can are lying about it.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:36 AM   #8
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Wait - if it's not a 3D movie can we still get lossless?
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:36 AM   #9
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Most people can't tell the difference between good compression and HD audio. Most people that say the can are lying about it.
I can hear a difference when I toggle between Dolby Digital and Dolby True HD on certain blu-rays but that maybe because I'm just hearing an increase in loudness/bass/treble/etc based on the receiver is processing the signal.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:37 AM   #10
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I've seen plenty of 3D movies in theaters but I'm already tired of the effect. No way do I want it on my TV. Give me full virtual reality to the extent of a holodeck, perhaps without the touchy/feely aspects (that would be creepy), or leave my damn 2D alone.

Have we really hit the wall with both processor power AND graphics now to the extent that we have to move sideways and only enhance graphics via 3D and only enhance processor performance via parallelism? That does not bode well for the human race.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:43 AM   #11
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And this is why you'll probably regret getting the 1st gen of 3d Tvs.

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RealD, the company that distributes many of the glasses you pick up before heading to a 3D film in theaters, has announced a new panel technology they're calling Zscreen. TVs equipped with Zscreen will, when used in conjunction with RealD's own cheap eyewear, produce a 3D effect without the need for an IR emitter of battery powered glasses.
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Wait - if it's not a 3D movie can we still get lossless?
Yes, it's only during 3D playback you can't get lossless.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:01 AM   #13
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And this is why you'll probably regret getting the 1st gen of 3d Tvs.
Yep, definitely going to wait for that. I already have multiple pairs of RealD glasses around the house because I like to keep them instead of recycling.

Well, wait for it assuming I was interested in buying an 3DTV, which I'm not.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:09 AM   #14
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Didn't I just read a thread telling me Blu-ray is a dead format?

Another 3.50 update that less than *5% of people are going to care about. You can now use the Move wand to navigate the web.



* 5% number pulled from my anus.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:14 AM   #15
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So Blu-ray as a whole is useless to you.
yeah pretty much. I use my PS3 for PS2 and PS1 games. Also loading the HDD with movies. I rarely use the blu ray.
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I can hear a difference when I toggle between Dolby Digital and Dolby True HD on certain blu-rays but that maybe because I'm just hearing an increase in loudness/bass/treble/etc based on the receiver is processing the signal.
Sure, there's going to be a different sound, but that certainly doesn't mean it's a BETTER sound.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:33 AM   #17
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Bluray isn't dead, Bluray is awesome! Unless these idiot companies get it through their head that I want to DOWNLOAD the movie, not STREAM it and lose 5.1 audio, let alone HD audio, and deal with possible hiccups in the stream, Bluray will dominate all my movie watching. Only a fool would deem streaming superior to Bluray right now.
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Only a fool would deem streaming superior to Bluray right now.
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Only a fool would deem streaming superior to Bluray right now.
One thing you aren't thinking about if people *care* about it being superior.
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RealD, the company that distributes many of the glasses you pick up before heading to a 3D film in theaters, has announced a new panel technology they're calling Zscreen. TVs equipped with Zscreen will, when used in conjunction with RealD's own cheap eyewear, produce a 3D effect without the need for an IR emitter of battery powered glasses.
It is extremely expensive to produce those panels right now. I will get plenty of usage out of my new 3D TV before those will be affordable, and by that time the tech that will not require glasses at all will probably not be too far off.

I love my 3D TV, the effect is far better than any RealD movie I have watched in the theater and I have seen almost all of them. I can't wait for some game releases that match the quality of the 3D Blu-Rays. I skipped Shadow of the Colossus because it was on PS2 so I am very much looking forward to that in 3D as well as Killzone 3.
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