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Old 08-21-2010, 05:02 PM   #1
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Eff Grant Morrison. Eff him in the spine.

I am a Batman fan.
This, I am sure, is obvious.
Grant Morrison is fucking crazy.
If you have read his Batman RIP or even heard about his return of Bruce Wayne story arc, then this is also obvious.

Seriously? Pirate Batman? Caveman Batman? He is writing fucking fanfic.

Am I being too critical? Is anyone out there enjoying Reading about Batman quantum leaping through space/time to the past/future to get back the magic amulet and destroy the one ring?
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:03 PM   #2
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This sounds hilarious.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:05 PM   #3
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Seriously? Pirate Batman? Caveman Batman? He is writing fucking fanfic.

Am I being too critical? Is anyone out there enjoying Reading about Batman quantum leaping through space/time to the past/future to get back the magic amulet and destroy the one ring?
This sounds relevant to my interests. I shall seek it out forthwith. Thank you.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:16 PM   #4
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This sounds relevant to my interests. I shall seek it out forthwith. Thank you.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:17 PM   #5
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Honestly, other than his early work on 2000AD, and of course Arkham Asylum, I've never really thought Morrison was that good anyway.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:17 PM   #6
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Grant Morrison needs to be removed from the Batbooks immediately. You and I see eye to eye, Crusader.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:25 PM   #7
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Honestly, other than his early work on 2000AD, and of course Arkham Asylum, I've never really thought Morrison was that good anyway.
Superman's Dead and others I trust speak very Highly of The Invisibles. I have read stuff by him that I liked, but I gag at the thought of RIP.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:54 PM   #8
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It seems that some comic book writers are like this - they have a couple really good ideas and then they just spend the rest of their career doing super weird shit. Frank Miller, Jeph Loeb, Grant Morrison.

Who knows what the reasoning behind it is? It was actually Batman RIP that convinced me to stop collecting monthly comic books and just pick up TPBs of stories that others have highly rated. I couldn't deal with his retardedly bizarre "story" lines.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:13 PM   #9
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It seems that some comic book writers are like this - they have a couple really good ideas and then they just spend the rest of their career doing super weird shit. Frank Miller, Jeph Loeb, Grant Morrison.

Who knows what the reasoning behind it is? It was actually Batman RIP that convinced me to stop collecting monthly comic books and just pick up TPBs of stories that others have highly rated. I couldn't deal with his retardedly bizarre "story" lines.
Agreed. That shit should be called Batman:WTF instead
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:17 PM   #10
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I'm currently not buying comics and while I might not like the actual RIP plot, I like the end game and what it means for Batman going forward. At least from what I've read about what's planned after. We'll have to see what they can deliver once Bruce gets back home.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:29 PM   #11
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I am a Batman fan.
This, I am sure, is obvious.
Grant Morrison is fucking crazy.
If you have read his Batman RIP or even heard about his return of Bruce Wayne story arc, then this is also obvious.

Seriously? Pirate Batman? Caveman Batman? He is writing fucking fanfic.

Am I being too critical? Is anyone out there enjoying Reading about Batman quantum leaping through space/time to the past/future to get back the magic amulet and destroy the one ring?
Grant Morrison was always crazy. I think anyone who hires him as a writer knows this. I've always enjoyed his stuff when I was collecting. I did get a few of the Batman issues he was writing and did enjoy them.

As for you being too critical? I think if I was a younger Santa, the obsessed comic fan I was, I probably think the same. However, you being a Batman fan you know his history. There has been some weird shit done with the character. In retrospect I think it's really cool that Batman has that eccentric history. I love when writers do different stuff. Doesn't mean it always works but I don't see a pirate Batman or Caveman Batman as insane as it might sound. I really need to read more of Batman. Morrison may drag me back to collecting even if it is for a few titles.
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It seems that some comic book writers are like this - they have a couple really good ideas and then they just spend the rest of their career doing super weird shit. Frank Miller, Jeph Loeb, Grant Morrison.

Who knows what the reasoning behind it is? It was actually Batman RIP that convinced me to stop collecting monthly comic books and just pick up TPBs of stories that others have highly rated. I couldn't deal with his retardedly bizarre "story" lines.
Grant Morrison always wrote weird shit. I loved Animal Man. That is how I was introduced to GM. I followed him pretty religiously after that and I don't know if I saw to much "normal" from him.

I think bizarre story lines are part of reading super hero comics. These characters are around so long to write something new all the time, sometimes it does delve into different territory. I think often when the work is reflected upon it's a lot better than when reading it as it's happening. Just my 2 cents since I've been that rabid comic fan and looking through a lot of my collection, stories that I hated back then now I see from a different perspective.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:30 PM   #12
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Morrison's a good writer when he's on a series. He just needs to be kept away from any sort of crossover or events.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:34 PM   #13
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The return of Bruce Wayne has been fantastic. I am enjoying it far more than Batman RIP.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:54 PM   #14
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Honestly, I always like Batman Beyond. The idea that Bruce Wayne would get too old and injured to do it anymore, and just basically sulk all the time, alone, all his old friends having moved on, until somebody worthy took up the torch.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:57 PM   #15
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As for you being too critical? I think if I was a younger Santa, the obsessed comic fan I was, I probably think the same. However, you being a Batman fan you know his history. There has been some weird shit done with the character. In retrospect I think it's really cool that Batman has that eccentric history. I love when writers do different stuff. Doesn't mean it always works but I don't see a pirate Batman or Caveman Batman as insane as it might sound. I really need to read more of Batman. Morrison may drag me back to collecting even if it is for a few titles.


I think bizarre story lines are part of reading super hero comics.
You make a number of good points and I respect your opinion. Yes, Batman's history is full of weird shit. But then the writing evolved. Batman was a genie once in like the silver or golden age. A genie. Like, who grants wishes. Just cause things used to be ridiculous, doesn't mean it is cool to give Batman a magic toothbrush that can see the future when under the full moon, or decide that Dick Grayson is actually a werewolf from space who is really just a figment of Alfred's imagination. The story arc may be a good one, I haven't even read it. It just seems like something better suited for a different character.
Obviously this all subjective. I just prefer when Batman is in Gotham fighting guys with guns. Normal guys like drug traffickers and dudes with melted faces and weird murder fetishes. That'a my favorite version of Batman. like everything from No Man's Land forward. And Year one. Year one is the shit.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:00 PM   #16
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The return of Bruce Wayne has been fantastic. I am enjoying it far more than Batman RIP.
I am glad it is at least better than that.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:11 PM   #17
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Give it a couple years and the storyline will be forgotten/reconned out of existence.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:15 PM   #18
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Just cause things used to be ridiculous, doesn't mean it is cool to give Batman a magic toothbrush that can see the future when under the full moon, or decide that Dick Grayson is actually a werewolf from space who is really just a figment of Alfred's imagination.
Hellz yeah. Where can I get the TPB?
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:18 PM   #19
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Agree. I think Morrison sucks at writing anything that isn't his own IP. His X-men run was absolutely godawful.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:18 PM   #20
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When I heard about this on the gaF I thought...what the heck?

Now, I'm just going to pretend it's all just a dream. It's all just a dream.
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