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LOST Rewatch [Spoilers]
Who else is rewatching LOST, after the series ended (a month ago today)?
Standard warning - this thread may contain spoilers for any and all LOST episodes, without spoiler tags. If you still have anything left to be spoiled, you've been warned. I started Season 1 again a few weeks before the finale, got a few episodes in, then started watching more after it ended. Gotten through the end of Season 2 now. A few things I'd forgotten:
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I don't know if I'm ready to rewatch just yet... I'm still a little bitter about the bairt and switch they pulled with the last season. Bastards. Enjoy! It really was a great show while it lasted.
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Lost was a good show to watch, but I never expected it to end well.
It had some fantastic episdoes, and was pretty fun throughout (with some low points though). I doubt I will ever re-watch it though. It was a show with little rewatchability to me.
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I've actually been waiting for a bit to re-watch...but i'm very excited about re-watching it in case i missed anything as well as with a whole new context.
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I wish I had 2 lives so I could watch it again. Sadly, the second and third seasons drag on so much I´d rather not waste my time.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with that. Especially with that ending.
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I have already watched it twice, will watch it again in the future.
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I started watching it again when the final season started. I'm about halfway through season 4 now. It's an amazing experience with all the later stuff filled in. You really notice A LOT more the 2nd time through with everything in proper context.
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do you guys want to see how obsessed i was with lost for the first three seasons?
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A thread dedicated to the best show on TV right now. (next to 24)
Go!! Blue = Theory Red = Confirmed Warning!!! this thread will contain spoilers from the show, including theories of different events that occur on the island. Facts: -------------------------------------Misc Facts------------------------------------- http://www.dharmaindustries.com/ http://bigspaceship1.com/ is NOT an OFFICIAL LOST site http://bigspaceshipone.com is NOT an OFFICIAL LOST site REMOVED FOR IRRELEVANCY http://thehansofoundation.org/ an OFFICIAL LOST site www.letyourcompassguideyou.com an OFFICIAL LOST site www.Hansocareers.com an OFFICIAL LOST site http://www.oceanicflight815.com,an OFFICIAL LOST site click on the little barcode near the bottom of the page, and type in "theislandiswaiting", then you get a page of what's supposedly the script for the sixth episode of this season the script was not correct 48 survivors the radio went out 6 hours into the flight they are "Estimated" 1000 miles off course The jet split into three sections; the front portion was found in the middle of the island where the Captain survived but was later eaten by "the monster" the middle section is where the main 42 survivors were seated the tail section had 16 survivors the numbers added up = 108 -------------------------------------Season 1------------------------------------- Episode 1: Pilot the flight number of the crash is Oceanic Flight #815, Bowing 777 Jump Jet... Bound from Sydney Australia to Los Angeles California, 42 rows, 352 seats Episode 18: Numbers Hurley memorized the numbers, 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 from Lenny when he was in a psycho ward. ![]() He used the numbers to play the lottery and win $157 million. ![]() Since he won the lottery, he's had nothing but bad luck: his house burned down, hes mother broke her ankle, etc etc ![]() Episode 19: Deus Ex Machina Locke dreamed of a two engine plane crashing on the island which him and Boone later found hanging off a cliff ![]() Boone and Locke found the body of a Catholic Priest hanging from a nearby tree, as well as Nigerian money and loaded handguns in the plane. Boone found maps of Nigeria and the Sahara desert inside the plane, as well as a New York City address stuck on the outside of several crates of Virgin Mary Statues filled with heroin Boone uses the radio onboard to make a call for help, got a response that sounded like they too were survivors of flight #815, but the plane shifted in the trees falling to the ground, and killing Boone ![]() Episode 24: Exodus (2) The numbers are written on the side of the hatch ![]() -------------------------------------Season 2------------------------------------- Episode 1: Man of Science, Man of Faith In the first episode of the 2nd season, Walt appears to Shannon in the jungle. He motions for her to be quiet and then appears to whisper something. When played backwards Walt says. " [Don't] press the button...[the button is bad]". Episode 2: Adrift The numbers were entered in the computer to reset a countdown inside the hatch ![]() the countdown restarts to 108 minutes ![]() numbers on food pantry: DI9FFTR731 ![]() Episode 3: Orientation Desmond says hes been on the island for 3 years. the Orientation film was created by the Hanso Foundation in 1980 as a part of Dharma Initiative Is titled "The Dharma Initiative - 3 of 6 - Orientation". Claims The Swan is station 3 and was built in the 70's. The title "3 of 6" likely means "Station #3 out of 6". "3 of 6" also appears next to The Swan on the Blast Door Map. Claims the Dharma Initiative is the brainchild of Dr Gerald and Karen DeGroot (two doctoral candidates at the University of Michigan) Mentions B.F. Skinner and that the project is a "social-science research facility" Dharma Initiative was created to give scientists a place to study * Meteorology * Psychology * Parapsychology * Zoology (the film featuring Polar Bears, a recurring theme) * Electromagnetism * Utopian Social__? (the rest is cut off) may be Utopian Socialism The partners who work at the station are there for 540 day shifts, which is 5x108. This means each team must hit the button between 7,200 and 7476 times, because they actually reset the timer before the 108 minutes are up, so it can be between 104 and 108 minutes between each pushing of the button. The Swan was originally created to study the unique magnetic characteristics of the part of the island that the hatch occupies. The book "The Third Policeman", taken by Desmond as he leaves the hatch, is about a man in purgatory. Episode 4: Everybody Hates Hugo Anna and Bernard are survivors from the trail end of the plane There were 23 more survivors in the tail end of the plane. Episode 6: Abandoned Walt says backwards, "They're coming and they're close" Episode 7: The Other 48 Days Goodwin was killed by Ana, and confirmed by Henry Gale. ![]() Episode 8: Collision (a.k.a. Old Habits) Ana-Lucia was an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department - her badge number was 68631. Anna knew Jack's father before the flight in Austria.
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Episode 9: What Kate Did We learn that Kate has killed in the past. Survivors who have killed before the crash include: Sawyer, Ana-Lucia, Sayid. On the island, Shannon was prepared to kill Locke for causing Boone's death, and both Charlie and Eko killed Others. Michael also killed a shark (presumably) and Sawyer killed a polar bear. Episode 10: The 23rd Psalm Among several other things, Mr. Eko carves the word "Revelations" on his staff. Episode 15: Maternity Leave The beard is fake. But why does he need a fake beard? Rosseau's daughter, Alex is the girl that saved Claire. ![]() The man talking with Ethan was Mr. Friendly. Episode 17: Lockdown Henry Gale is an other. ![]() Henry mentioned they only take the "good" people. The bad are not worthy enough. Goodwin was killed as a result of thinking Anna could be "Saved". Episode 18: Dave Hurley was in a mental hospital because of his imaginary friend, Dave. Libby was in the same hospital as Hurley. ![]() Episode 21: ? The micro-computer in the Swan station is documented on print outs at the Pearl station which includes the numbers, error messages and the date. Anna is shot by Michael and is dead. ![]() Episode 23: Live Together Desmond was indeed involved in a “race around the world” ![]() Libby’s real name is Elizabeth, which is also the same name as the boat she gave to Desmond. “Elizabeth Newport Beach" Rhode Island? The woman in the pic next to Desmond on the desk was Penny Widemore whom Desmond was in love with. She is the daughter of Charles Widemore. They both are extreemly wealthy. ![]() Episode 24: Die Alone The piping system we saw at the Pearl station, emptied the notebooks in to a field. No one reads them. ![]() Not pushing the button causes a build up of electromagnetic energy that caused Oceanic Flight 815 to crash. The error and date was recorded on the paper inside the Pearl station. The date and time are the same when Flight 815 crashed. ![]() Kelvin finished the map on the blast wall that his partner, Razinski started. ![]() Desmond killed Kelvin Kelvin faked the “sickness” so Desmond would stay inside, so Kelvin could repair the boat to escape off the island. ![]() Mr. Friendly's real name is Tom. Ms Klugh's real name is Bee. (sp?) __________________ A Few Things To Consider: David Fury interview Scifi.com 9/7/04 http://www.lostlinks.net/articles/in...cifi9-7-04.htm Quote:
NOT a supernatural show Explanations for everything - but we have to wait Efforts to root it in real science or real pseudo-science NO mystical reason
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Questions:
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-------------------------------------Season 2------------------------------------- Episode 2: Adrift Why is there a man [Desmond] in the hatch? Desmond claims he has been in the hatch to reset the coundown every 108 minutes. What was that count down on the computer? The count down discharges the electromagnetic buildup (which we do not know it's purpose). Why did Desmond assume everyone was "sick"? Kelvin had told Desmond there was a sickness on the island, but later found out he was just telling him that to keep him inside the hatch. Demsond still believes there is some kind of sickness. Why did Desmond call Locke "are you him" and feel like he was overdue for his replacement? Desmond has been waiting for someone to replace him for over 3 years. Why did it say “quarantined” on the inside of the hatch?" ![]() To possibly prolong the rumor the island contains a sickness to keep people inside the hatch. Why are there weapons inside the hatch? ![]() Why was all the furniture from the 70s/80s but he had BRAND SPANKEN NEW washer and dryer set...? ![]() What was Desmond injecting? Why did he take the vials when he left the bunker? Why did the vials have the numbers printed on them? Why was there a Dharma logo on the shark's body? ![]() Episode 3: Orientation Is there a significance of the numbers on food pantry: DI9FFTR731 ![]() Who was Kelvin? Assuming Kelvin couldn’t leave the bunker, how did he know Desmond had arrived on the island? Kelvin Edmond, was inside the hatch prior to Desmond. He saved Desmond when he crashed his boat on the island. What would happen if the numbers weren't entered into the computer? What did Kelvin mean when he said they had to be entered to 'save the world'? Why mustn't the computer be used for anything else? If the numbers are not entered in the computer every 108 minutes, a large electromagnetic pull is generated from inside the hatch. This is the cause of Flight 815 to crash. We do not know what would happen if the pull were to remain on. What is 'the sickness'? What causes it? The sickness is a rumor. Who was 'Alvar Hanso', the G-Man behind Dharma? What was Dharma doing on the island before the 'incident'? What happened? Does Dharma still exist? Was the island abandoned?The Dharma foundation conducts a series of experiments. Episode 4: Everybody Hates Hugo What is the significance of the magnetic pull inside the hatch? What's causing the electro-magnetic field? ![]() What is behind the concrete wall in the hatch? ![]() Where is the island drawing its power from? 40. What number hatch are Ana-Lucia and Bernard in? Episode 6: Abandoned 41. How did Sayid and Shan both see Walt? Why does Walt appear? Where does he come from/go? (and why was he wet when he appeared to Shannon?) What and why was he whispering? ![]() 42. Where is Cindy? Taken by the Others ![]() 43. What is the whispering in the jungle? 44. Ana killed Shannon? It would assume so, however... UPDATED: Yes Shannon Was Killed by a gunshot; and a recent TV guide interview confirmed: Quote:
Episode 7: The Other 48 Days 46. Is the little girl taken from the beach in the first night now one of the 'others'? Her teddy bear was held by the band of 'others' that passed Jin & Eko ![]() 46.1 Who has the teddy bear? belongs to the small girl in the tail section, was taken by the other on the first night on the island ![]() 46.2 Desmond grabs 3 things before leaving the bunker: 4 tin cans of food, bottles of medicine (with the cursed numbers on them) and a stuffed bunny rabbit (sitting next to a bible with an inverted cross and the book "The Third Policeman". 47. Where is the 20 yr old Army Knife from? ![]() 48. What is the significance of Ecko's staff? 49. What did Goodwin mean when he said the 'others' only took the 'good people'? Henry Gale confirmed that the others only take the "good" people and the ones that are not taken, are not worthy to be "saved". Why are the children not a threat? Why are they 'better off' since being taken? If they weren't a threat then why were they taken? 50. How did Goodwin turn up at the tail crash site so quickly? Did the 'others' know the plane was going to crash? 51. How many installations are there on the island? What was the second installation (Arrow?) used for? Why did the tail survivors find a glass eye and a bible in the 'arrow' station?
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Episode 10: 23rd Psalm 52. What is the significance of flashes of Eko's past inside the smoke/security system? 53. How did the plane make it from Nigeria to the island? Episode 14: One of Them 54. What do the red pictures mean when the counter hits 0? ![]() 55. Is Henry Gale telling the truth? Did he really crash land on the island? No, he was lying. Henry is one of the others sent to take Loche. 56. What was the talk to Charlie about at the end of "One of Them"? Episode 15: Maternity Leave 57. What is Claire being injected with and drinking? ![]() 58.1 A new symbol is introduced here: the symbol on the canteen (referred to as the "waterbottle" by some) has a slight resemblance to the symbol on the shark, but only when viewed from a distance: ![]() ![]() 59. Who was Mr. Friendly refering to when we was talking to Ethan? 60. Why did they adondon the hatch? 60.5 Who is Henry Gale? ![]() Knows of Mr. Friendly, but states: "Him? He's no one! Nothing!" assumedly in comparison to "Him", the true leader of "The Others." Knows who Walt is and says that 'they' would never trade Walt for him. Claims he was sent by the Others to find and bring back Locke. Believes that he will be killed by the mysterious Him, for failing this mission. Tried to strangle Ana Lucia, but was stopped by Locke. Whispers "we're scientists" twice while Ana-Lucia is speaking to him about how killers love to talk. Told her that Goodwin thought there was hope for her which may have been what kept her from killing him. Claims to be rich as a result of selling a non-metallic mining company After the $20 dollar note Quote:
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Seems afraid to tell Sayid about "them" (assumedly the Others). Claims "You have no idea what He'll do!" -- The False Henry Gale, in Dave. Exclaims "I am not a bad person!" While talking to Locke: "God doesn't know how long we've been here. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can." The real Henry Gale arrived on the Island in a balloon. The real Henry's corpse is found in a grave near the balloon by Sayid, where fake Henry claims his wife is buried. He has a Minnesota driver's license, and a $20 bill with a note to his wife on it in his wallet. The balloon was sponsored or manufactured by Widmore Construction which was first introduced in Episode Fire + Water. ![]() ![]()
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Episode 17: Lockdown 61. Who drew the map on the side of the blastdoor? What does everything mean? ![]() It is possible Desmond or Kelvin drew the map. It is obviously 6 stations surrounding a ?. We learned in episode ?, the ? represents the monitoring station, aka the Pearl. We can see by the map: Dhrarma Medical Station aka the Staff (where Claire was taken), The Arrow (where the tail end of the survivors were living) The Swan, where everyone is currently staying now, The Flame and two other unknown stations. The red markings touching each station may represent a tunnel system we do not yet know about. More facts by this map: The Swan: 1. Multiple Escape conduits blocked after incident; this may be the reason why the hallway in the hatch is cemented 2. P.R.D every 6-8 months: Parachute Resupply Drop ? 3. Home of H.G. Delegation Inspection 12.07.81; [B]unknown 4. Station wide Failure of Dhramatel Intranet 4.08.00, 8.15.01, 01.06.03; these dates coincide with how long Desmond and Kelvin have lived inside the hatch 5. Complete Shutdown in effect; unknown 6. Fatalities: 5; due to the incident? 7. No connection to Island-wide E.E.P. Network; unkown 8. Possible CVII Inactive since Accident; unkown 9. Low Priority Zone for exploration, possible site for above ground study of low relevance to Volencetti research related activity ; unkown 10. Possible recreation area for D.I.H.G. teams; Dhrama Initiative H____ G____ 11. The wrath of Gods may be great, but certainly is slow; translated from Latin The Flame 1. √16 √64 √255 ; The first two of the numbers and 15.96? Episode 21: ? 62. Why did Michael shoot Anna, Libby and free Henry? It is possible Michael is being controlled or brainwashed by the others. He may have shot Libby by accident. He shot himself to make it seem like Henry did the shooting. Compare the SS of Michael after he shot Ana, and Libby. He seems upset only with Libby. ![]() We learned from Episode 22, that Michael was told By the others that they will release Walt if he released Henry Gale, and brings back Sawyer, Kate, Hurley and Jack. But ONLY those four and no one else. He shot Ana and Libby to cover up releasing Henry Gale. Episode 22: Three Minutes 63. Why did the others draw blood from Michael? Are they trying to validate that Michael is indeed Walt's biological father? ![]() 64. Why did the others ask Michael if Walt has ever been somewhere he wasn't supposed to be? 65. Why do the others want, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and Jack? ![]() 66. Where did the boat come from? ![]() The boat was Desmond’s, given to him by Libby aka Elizabeth at a coffee shop. The boat’s name is also Elizabeth. 67. What did Ms. Klugh mean by: "Do you want to go back to the room?" when Walt was misbehaving? ![]() Episode 23: Live Together Why was Desmond in prison? ![]() Libby said her husband’s name was Dave. The only other time a name Dave was mentioned in lost was Hurley’s imaginary friend. The same Dave? What is the signigicance with the giant bird? ![]() What is the foot statue from? Why did it have 4 toes? ![]() Episode 24: Die Alone What was the white light in the sky after the countdown reached 0? ![]() ![]() Why is the monitoring system/hatch fake, but the Swan site still has a purpose. ![]() What is the point of faking the others camp site? Fake hatch? Was the original kidnapping of Michael planned? Did they know he was coming to search for his son? When Michael was captured, Mr. Friendly said, “bag him quick, his friends are right behind us,” as if they knew they were there the entire time. ![]() ![]() Is Henry Gale the leader of the others? He asked why Mr. Friendly wasn’t wearing his beard and it seemed like they were waiting for him to arrive (to approve the trade, or waiting for the boat?) He said he wasn’t happy with the deal they made. Why did Henry Gale say, “you’ll never find this place”? What does the key actually do? ![]() ![]() ![]() Widemore early in the episode said, “I have a lot of money Desmond, with enough money and determination you can find anyone.” What was the Alaskan compound for? Specifically looking for Desmond? Why were they searching for an “magnetic shift” ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() -------------------------------------Season 3 Questions------------------------------------- Episode 1: A Tale of Two Cities 80 Why are the next 2 weeks going to be very unpleasant according to Ben? 81. Did Jack, Sawyer and Kate have blood taken? Were the bandages from the drugs they were given? 82 Was Jack really hallucinating when he heard his father over the intercom? Julia hinted the drugs had serious side effects. 83. Who is Karl? And where did Tom take him? Episode 2: Glass Ballerina 84. What are Sawyer and Kate building? Episode 3: Further Instructions 85. Can Desmond see the future? Episode 4: Every Man For Himself 86. Why was the 2nd island unable to be seen previously? Personal Character Questions All * Why do all the characters seemed to have run into each other before the flight? For example Hurley owns the box company that Locke works for, Hurley was on the TV in Jin's episode, Sawyer was in the same police station as Boone, Sawyer met Jack's dad in a bar, Jack was at the same hospital as Shannon and so on... Walt * What's up with Walt? Why is he 'different'? Does he have special powers? * If there is a 'disease' is it possible Walt had it before arriving on the island? How come he looks at a picture of a bird and one turns up dead and then he reads a comic with polar bears and they turn up; talks about Sharks, one turns up, talks about the rain stopping, rain stops. Cindy * Why did the 'others' take Cindy? Was she taken at all or was she one of the 'others'? Jin * Why were the watches that Jin had to take to California so important? How did Mr. Paik know Jin & Sun were planning to run away? Jack * Why did Jack's dad go to Austrailia? Is there anything significant about Jack's tatoos? What happened to Jack and Sarah's relationship? (Sarah was his wife pre-crash) How did it end? Kate * What has Kate done that is so bad? Why did the marshall need so many guns whilst escorting her? Why the $32,000 reward for her capture? Ana-Lucia * What's the deal with Ana-Lucia? How does she know about army knives etc? Eko * Why wouldn't Eko speak until Ana-Lucia had cried? What was he carving on his club? Hurley * Who was the guy Hurley went to see in the hospital? What's he got to do with the numbers? Claire * Why did the palm reader react so stongly when Claire went to see him? Why did he carry on changing his mind and then insist she went to the US? Rose/Bernard * Why was Rose so confident that her husband was still alive? Goodwin * Who was Goodwin? How long had he been on the island? Desmond * What more does Desmond know? 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1. The man who gave Hurley the numbers was Desmond Status: No, the man who gave Hurley the numbers was Lenny. 2. The numbers are the Coordinates of the island (lat/long) If the numbers are arranged 4.815 latitude - 162.342 longitude, then the coordinates end somewhere in Nigeria. ![]() However, if you split the numbers in the middle, 4.8151 latitude - 6.2342 longitude, then you end up with a location in the Pacific. 3. Desmond asks "are you him?" referring to Hurley Corollary: Desmond asks the snowman joke which Hurley said in season 1. 4. They are all dead. Corollary: They are in Purgatory. Status: Theory discredited many times over by show's creative team Quote:
5. They are in a "time warp" Corollaries: many variations including the island is from the distant future or distant past, the flashbacks show future events, etc. Status: The creative team has confirmed that the episodes on the island happen in real time from the point of the crash. That does not pinpoint when the plane crashed, nor does it say anything about what the islanders dream or see in flashbacks. But the characters do not "time travel" per se. Quote:
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7. The show is someone's dreams or imaginings Status: No. They are really on the island. Quote:
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8. The island is not an island Corollary: The island is moving, floating, sinking, flying, etc. Status: Maybe. We may never know the true geography of the island. The conventional wisdom on the issue of the "moving" island is that the cost and complexity far exceed anything imaginable, and that there is no apparent benefit to justify such cost. 9. The plane crash didn't happen Corollary: The crash was faked or it happened differently. Status: Unresolved 10. The survivors are being manipulated as part of a Grand Experiment or con Status: Unresolved 11. The Numbers are (fill in here) Status: Unresolved 12. The creators have no idea where this show is going Status: They say they do. They even know how it will end. 13. The "Reverse Big Dipper" Theory Status: Unresolved screenshots taken from episode "Special" ![]() possible connection between "The Numbers" and the Connect Four game that Lenny was playing at the hospital. In particular, the 6 x 7 grid yields the number 42. This opens up many new questions: its a mirrored big dipper. Which either means: 1) they are on a planet lightyears from us and looking at the big dipper from the other side. 2) The are some kind of huge lenses/mirrors above in the sky. 3) Its a goof. But if the numbers are to represent stars its hard to believe they would make that mistake. ![]() 14. The Whispers In the Jungle are part of the remote viewing experiment. Status: Unresolved 15. Dharma is an acronym. Status: Confirmed via podcast with the writers Department Heuristics And Research Material Applications At some point, The Degroots, financially backed by Alvar Hanso set out to find/study a lost island. An island of legend with strange properties. The lost island of Atlantis perhaps? Once found, six research stations were put there by the Scientists of DHARMA. Each station is there to collect information on different aspects of the island and how real world things react to it. At some point, One or more of the stations went offline, creating a disaster. The scientists of those stations were exposed to the properties of the island for too long. Over exposure creates almost supernatural ability in humans as it enhances ones natural ability. On the downside, paranoia and mental instability are the side effects. To combat these effects, the six research stations are lined in a material that protects it's occupants. To insure that the occupants are not overexposured, a special innoculation along with a computer are placed in each station. The computer must be reset every 108 minutes. If the computer is not reset, the station will assume that the occupants have been exposed, are dead or compromised and seal itself off with blast doors. The station the tail survivors found had been sealed. No, the 108 min countdown is to prevent electromagnetic build up. Each of the survivors are experiencing things associated with their gifts. For example we know that Jack is a "fix it" type person. Being able to cure people. That is why Locke can walk. When Locke ventured too far from Jack he lost the ability. Michael was given the coordinates of the others by Walt via projecting thought. He saw nothing on the computer screen. Just imagined he did. Walts ability to manifest things and thoughts have been enhanced by the island. There have been no polar bears since he has left. A few points from episode Hunting Partty we learned: 1. Geronimo Jackson is a fictitious band, and only exists in Lost. The other bands Hurley and Charlie found are real. The album they played was called "Amnesia" by the Pousette-Dart Band from 1977. The song name was "Fall on Me" 2. The date on the xray of Gabriellas father was November 16 of 2005 (date on Xray is a show glitch, writer confirmed) 3. Sarah left Jack for another man. For that man to be Desmond does not meet the timeline criteria and there is a picture of Desmonds girlfriend in the hatch. Jack would have noticed it. So speculation seems to point to Sawyer. 4. Mr. Friendly stated a few very useful facts to us about what he and the others know: He called for Alex to bring out Kate. Danielles Alex? Mr. Friendly was wielding an old WW2 Luger ![]() Mr. Friendly quoted Alvar Hanso "From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity" Mr. Friendly stated "Open doors that don't belong to you" "Put your feet on another man's coffee table" and he looked right at Locke. He knows they are in the Hatch. The Degroots, the original founders of the project, are the leader of "The others" ![]() No, Mr. Friendly's real name is Tom. The Degroot man's name is Gerald. Status: see notes 16. The SMOKE = the Others http://lostresearch.com/s2e11/Losts2...ck%20smoke.wmv Status: No, the "others" are real people. 17. The surgon on the left is Henry Gale ![]() ![]() Status: Unconfirmed 18. Collective subconscious and other Mind Creation Theories Quote:
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In S1E14 Brain Porter said that Susan died by a blood disorder and was sick for only a week. He then spoke about Walt saying: “There’s something about him. Sometimes when he’s around, things happen. He’s different somehow.” Later in the episode, Walt was angry at Michael for burning the comic book Hurley gave him, which featured a polar bear. A few minutes later, a polar bear is attacking Walt. ![]() When Susan started feeling unwell, Walt was trying to tell Brain and Susan about the birds he was reading about. When they did not listen, it angered Walt and he exclaimed: “You’re not looking!” A second later, the same bird Walt was reading about, flew into the window and died. Is there some connection between Walt and animals? ![]() In S1E22, Locke was comforting Walt after Michael was poisoned and touches Walt on the arm. Walt slowly looks down at his arm, and interrupts Locke: “Don’t open it…Don’t open it Mr. Locke don’t open that thing! Just don’t open it!” …as if Walt somehow read Locke’s mind about the hatch (which only a few people knew about at this time). This would also coincide with the short appearances of Walt over season two when he says: “don’t push the button, the button is bad.” By why is it bad? And does Walt have some kind of psychic powers? ![]() Later in the episode Walt confesses to Michael that he burned the raft. To this Michael responds, “hey its okay, we don’t have to go”…Walt quickly replies.. “yes we do!” this foreshadows bad things to come on the island. But if Walt can see the future or is psychic, why didn’t he see himself getting taken on the raft? ![]() Status: Unconfirmed 20. Grand Theory The last two episodes had a lot to do with snow. the snowglobe, the snowman joke. The show has reasons to indicate they are indeed in some cold region. Desmond sailed off for two weeks and ended up back into the island. They may be in some kind of snowglobe that creates a false tropical environment. The purpose of the electromagnetism, to fend off the magnetic poles in artic regions that attributes to an arctic climate. on 9-22-04, when desmond caused the crash, a "hole" in the snow globe allowing the outside world to get in. This maybe also related to the polar bears and Walt’s powers. Just like when Walt “caused” the bird to fly into the window, he caused polar bears to be attracted to the island (polar bears can swim, and we don’t know how big the field is around the island) The "others" are fully aware of this and they are indeed scientists and are very keen to the secrets of Dharma which may be a government funded project. But why would tribal people who dry fish need blood samples of an "outsider" (as when they captured michael). On hansocareers.com, an administrative assistant opening is shown where the requirement is PhD in high-end scientific field OR a 5 year experience think-tank/govt sponsored research, thus proving the "globe" theory. When the plane crashed, it probably crashed in a region similar to where desmond was last known to be sailing, and all of a sudden "disappeared".. peggy, having the resources, funded her own tracking team exactly where the plane crashed and desmond sailed into. Kelvin DID reveal the truth. The truth comes out when you're drunk. The code is indeed a release of current, sort of a grounding-effect to that high magnetic field. When it expires, it causes the tropical dome to open a hole, thus allowing the outside world in. Maybe Kelvin tired of "saving the world", let it expire and that's how desmond was able to get inside with his sailboat OR the compass, bearing 325 degrees is the only way in and out of the island…maybe after following 325, Michael will end up on the artic side of the bubble, where more scientists are waiting for him…and would save him. Status: Unresolved Dreams and Visions Jack 1. Sees multiple instances of his father on the island Corollary: Kate 1. See visions of a black horse Corollary: Charlie Dream 1: 2X12: Fire + Water We see a pair of slippered feet whisk a young Charlie down a flight of stairs. It's Christmas morning and his brother Liam is already hard at work ripping open his presents. But while Liam continues to unwrap gift after gift, Charlie finds nothing at all for him. That is until his mother leads him over to a brand new piano. Charlie is thrilled, but before he can even begin to enjoy the gift, he turns into present day Charlie and his father his next to him slicing meat at what looks like a butchers shop. Dream 2: 2X12: Fire + Water Charlie plays his guitar by the sea, he hears the faint cries of a baby and follows the sound to the sea, where he sees Aaron's cradle being tossed between the waves. Somehow he manages to swim out and bring little Aaron back to shore. Back on shore, he sees Claire and his mother, sitting on the beach praying with halo’s over their heads, chanting “only Charlie can save the baby “. In the background, a small plane crashes in the jungle and the blast explosion turns into a dove. Just after the dove appears, a black "shadow" dove splits off from it and flies into the jungle. Corollary: The shadow was the bird splitting into two - one black, one white. Could this be a reference to the black & white stones that Jack found with the corpses at the caves in season 1, plus the numerous other black/white references in the show (Lock & Walt playing backgammon) Eko Dream 1: 2x21: ? Eko dreams of his brother leading him somewhere and goes to Loche about finding the ‘?”. Loche Hurley Dream 1. Talks to Jin in English next to a giant chicken. Vision 1. Has multiple visions of his imaginary friend. Sawyer nothing? Claire Michael Vision 1. Believes Walt is talking to him on the computer used to reset the countdown. Vision 2. Still believes he is talking to Walt on the computer. Jin nothing? Sun nothing? _______________________ Orientation Video Dialogs Station 3: the Swan Welcome. I am Dr. Marvin Candle(?) and this is your orientation film for station 3 (of the?) *Dharma* Initiative. In a moment you will be given (a?) simple set of instructions for how you and your partner will fulfill the responsibilities associated with the station. But first, a little history: screen transition to show activity on a university campus The Dharma Initiative was created in 1970, and is the brainchild of Gerald and Karen DeGroot(?), two doctoral candidates at the University of Michigan. Following in the footsteps of visionaries such as B.F. Skinner, (?) imagined a large-scale communal research compound where scientists and free-thinkers from around the globe could pursue research in meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social... * ...(re)clusive Danish industrialist and munitions magnate, Alvar Hanso, whose financial backing made their dream of a multi-purpose, social-science research facility a reality. screen transition back to man in the lab coat You and your partner are currently located in station three, or The Swan, and will be for the next 540 days. Now station 3 was originally constructed as a laboratory, where scientists could work to understand the unique electromagnetic fluctuations emanating from this sector of the island. Not long after the experiments began, however, there was... an 'incident'... and since that time, the following protocol has been observed: (That?) every 108 minutes, the button must be pushed. From the moment the alarm sounds, you will have 4 minutes to enter the code into the microcomputer processor(?)... * ...duction into the program. When the alarm sounds, either you or your partner must input the code. It is highly recommended that you and your partner take alternating shifts. In this manner you will both stay as fresh and alert... * ...most importance, that when the alarm sounds, the code be entered correctly and in a timely fashion. Now do not attempt to use the computer... * ...for anything... * <transcript of the spliced clip introduced in What Kate Did> ...for anything else other than the entering of the code. This is its only function. <begin revision> The isolation that attends the duties associated with Station 3 may tempt you to try and utilize the computer for communication with the outside world. This is strictly forbidden. Attempting to use the computer in this manner will compromise the integrity of the project and worse, could lead to another incident. I repeat, do not use the computer for anything other than entering the code. <end of revision and spliced clip> Congratulations! Until your replacements arrive, the future of the project is in your hands. On behalf of the DeGroots(?), Alvar Hanso, and all of us at the Dharma Initiative, thank you, namaste, and... good luck. Station 5: the Pearl ![]() "Hello. I am Dr. Mark Wickman and this is your orientation film for station 5 of the *Dharma* Initiative. Station 5 or, The Pearl, is a monitoring station where the activities of participants in Dharma Initiative projects can be observed and recorded; not only for posterity but for the ongoing refinement of the initiative as a whole. As Karen DeGroot herself has written "Careful observation is the only key to true and complete awareness". Your tour of duty in the Pearl will last three weeks and during this time, you and your partner will observe a psychological experiment in progress. Your duty is to observe team members in another station on the island. These team members are not aware that they are under surveillance or that they are subjects of an experiment. Working in eight hour shifts you and your partner will record everything you observe in the notebooks we provided. What is the nature of the experiment, you might ask. What do these subjects believe they are accomplishing as they struggle to fulfill their tasks? You, as the observer, don't need to know. All you need to know is that the subjects believe that their job is of the utmost importance. Remember, everything that occurs, no matter how minute or seemingly unimportant must be recorded. Each time a notebook is filled with the fruits of your diligent observation, roll it up and insert it into one of the containers provided. Then, simply place the container in the pneumatic tube and - presto! It will be transported directly to us. At the end of your eight hour shift proceed to the Pala Ferry which will take you back to the barracks to prepare for your next * (?) ... on behalf of the DeGroots, Alvar Hanso, and all of us here at the Dharma Initiative - thank you. Namaste and good luck. " Here is a compilation of the Hanso Commercials that aired over the summer. They shed some light on events in the show and answer a few questions.
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And that's all. I stopped updating it after the the third season and when they started FUCKING over their viewers. Hope you enjoy my hard work.
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See, i was a viewer throughout and i never felt fucked over. To each his own (i do appreciate the work though, that was a fun read). I also enjoyed the 3rd season (i still don't get what's wrong with the Cage scenario..not everything needs action).
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Gah I hated that whole Cage thing and Jack helping Ben... it seemed like no matter what happened, no matter who betrayed who, they still all were friends and helped each other out later .... stupid
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