Dated: Halo Reach

DoctorFinger · 05-24-2010, 06:45 AM

With the close of the Halo: Reach beta this weekend, Microsoft figures it's a good time to give the official release date for the game. You'll be able to grab your copy of the game on September 14.

Microsoft also released some stats from the just completed beta. 2.7 million participants played a total of 16 million hours and made 1.8 billion kills in the 18 days the public beta was active.

Sources - AP; VG247.

LarsenNET · 05-24-2010, 06:50 AM

Do we know if the single player campaign is going to be any good or is it just an afterthought compared to multi?

The Iron Weasel · 05-24-2010, 07:47 AM

From what I understand Bungie trying their best to go balls out on the last Halo game they'll make for the foreseeable future. I've enjoyed all the other Halo campaigns personally. It sounds like they're trying to make it more like Halo 1 than 2 or 3. The vidoc's can give you more of a heads up than anything I feel.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 07:58 AM

Why do they bother calling it a beta, anyway? It was obviously just a demo, as most "betas" are these days. The term loses most of its meaning when you have millions of participants and the whole thing is obviously marketing.

The same goes for Starcraft 2. Beta? Right...

Orca · 05-24-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Why do they bother calling it a beta, anyway? It was obviously just a demo, as most "betas" are these days. The term loses most of its meaning when you have millions of participants and the whole thing is obviously marketing.

The same goes for Starcraft 2. Beta? Right...

Did you see the list of things that are going to be fixed, or are already fixed in a newer version, for retail? Sounds like a beta to me lol

Adam Blue · 05-24-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Why do they bother calling it a beta, anyway? It was obviously just a demo, as most "betas" are these days. The term loses most of its meaning when you have millions of participants and the whole thing is obviously marketing.

The same goes for Starcraft 2. Beta? Right...

Because a game is this big these days, a beta is necessary. They need to make sure things are running smooth with millions of players. And major tweaks to the armor abilities are made based on beta feedback.

Same thing with SC2. Tons of players for network tests, major balance tweaks.

As for SP, Bungie has always focused on delivering a good SP campaign. When I say good, I mean better than most games with a strong MP component.

AgtFox · 05-24-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Why do they bother calling it a beta, anyway? It was obviously just a demo, as most "betas" are these days. The term loses most of its meaning when you have millions of participants and the whole thing is obviously marketing.

The same goes for Starcraft 2. Beta? Right...

I think you've confused what beta means in this case. Both of your attempts to make connections to it being a demo are bad. Both games have seen fixes as the beta has gone on. If it was a "demo" they wouldn't be fixing it and they would have come out far closer to release than these betas have.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 09:48 AM

Plenty of demos have led to changes in games as well, so that hardly holds up. The whole way that they go about these "betas" nowadays just strikes me more as marketing than actual game testing.

pomeroy · 05-24-2010, 10:19 AM

Well...great, but you're still wrong.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 10:58 AM

Wow, you sure told me!

Adam Blue · 05-24-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Plenty of demos have led to changes in games as well, so that hardly holds up. The whole way that they go about these "betas" nowadays just strikes me more as marketing than actual game testing.

Well again, nowadays these online games have millions of gamers on the servers day one. This is completely different than how games have been in the past. They can't get away with a few hundred beta testers.

pomeroy · 05-24-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Wow, you sure told me!

Dude, you don't have an argument to be set straight on. You're just wrong.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pomeroy

Dude, you don't have an argument to be set straight on. You're just wrong.

Thank you for reducing this to the typical Internet discussion. "YOU'RE WRONG!!!!11!" isn't exactly a compelling argument, but kudos for saying it anyway.

I'm glad people are enjoying the game. Hooray, more Halo! etc. With that I'm out.

AgtFox · 05-24-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Plenty of demos have led to changes in games as well, so that hardly holds up. The whole way that they go about these "betas" nowadays just strikes me more as marketing than actual game testing.

Name me one recent demo that has led to changes in games because of user reaction? Demos themselves are "work in progress" showing of the game, so yes your argument is true. However, these changes are almost wholly developer induced and not user induced.

Seriously though, if you have a recent demo example I'd love to hear it. Reason I ask is because most times demos come out right before (or even after) a game is already out.

National Kato · 05-24-2010, 11:36 AM

The Halo: Reach beta was, in fact, a beta. They had network problems, balance changes, etc. The actual release is over 3 months away.

digitalErich · 05-24-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AgtFox

Seriously though, if you have a recent demo example I'd love to hear it. Reason I ask is because most times demos come out right before (or even after) a game is already out.

Was BC2 a demo or a beta? I honestly can't remember which tag it got. It came out pretty close the launch and there were changes to the release code based on it.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AgtFox

Name me one recent demo that has led to changes in games because of user reaction? Demos themselves are "work in progress" showing of the game, so yes your argument is true. However, these changes are almost wholly developer induced and not user induced.

Seriously though, if you have a recent demo example I'd love to hear it. Reason I ask is because most times demos come out right before (or even after) a game is already out.

Unfortunately we don't see nearly as many game demos as we used to. It used to be quite common for demos to come out months in advance of a game's release. I can't think of a recent example, but I know that there have been several examples of demos where feedback led to changes in the final release.

Sorry I can't be more helpful than that. If/when a specific title comes to mind I'll let you know.

OldJadedGamer · 05-24-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

Unfortunately we don't see nearly as many game demos as we used to. It used to be quite common for demos to come out months in advance of a game's release. I can't think of a recent example, but I know that there have been several examples of demos where feedback led to changes in the final release.

Sorry I can't be more helpful than that. If/when a specific title comes to mind I'll let you know.

Wait... I thought you said:

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

With that I'm out.

MagGnome · 05-24-2010, 01:17 PM

What's your point? Should I have just ignored AgtFox's question?

Wait, don't bother answering that.

OldJadedGamer · 05-24-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MagGnome

What's your point? Should I have just ignored AgtFox's question?

Wait, don't bother answering that.

Just giving you a hard time. I always find it amusing when people say they are leaving a thread and never do. Just curious though... when you said you were out of the thread, how did you even see his question to begin with? Or did you mean you were out to the store, but now you're back

As for the thread topic, the beta turned me off of the game and seems like nothing changed and it's basically a Halo 3 expansion pack. We'll see when the full game is released but right now Reach will not be getting my money day one.

05-24-2010, 06:45 AM	#1
DoctorFinger Editor in Chief Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 13,855 Blog Entries: 10	Dated: Halo Reach With the close of the Halo: Reach beta this weekend, Microsoft figures it's a good time to give the official release date for the game. You'll be able to grab your copy of the game on September 14. Microsoft also released some stats from the just completed beta. 2.7 million participants played a total of 16 million hours and made 1.8 billion kills in the 18 days the public beta was active. Sources - AP; VG247.

05-24-2010, 06:50 AM	#2
LarsenNET Colonist Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Osceola, IN Posts: 2,180	Do we know if the single player campaign is going to be any good or is it just an afterthought compared to multi? __________________ Gamertag: LarsenNET PSN: LarsenNET Steam: jlarsen Goozex Trading Referral

05-24-2010, 07:47 AM	#3
The Iron Weasel Shredtacular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 482	From what I understand Bungie trying their best to go balls out on the last Halo game they'll make for the foreseeable future. I've enjoyed all the other Halo campaigns personally. It sounds like they're trying to make it more like Halo 1 than 2 or 3. The vidoc's can give you more of a heads up than anything I feel. __________________ Don't you hate pants?

05-24-2010, 11:36 AM	#15
National Kato Surfer Rosa Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sun & Sand Posts: 9,312	The Halo: Reach beta was, in fact, a beta. They had network problems, balance changes, etc. The actual release is over 3 months away. __________________ 360: National Kato PSN: National_Kato Steam: NationalKato Origin: NationalKato Now Playing: Metro: Last Light / Blood Dragon / NHL 13 / Battlefield 3 / Borderlands 2 DLC / Skyrim [smith.ink]

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