Brb, moving to California

[jeffbax]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...marijuana.html

The huff they try to make over this in spite of legal alcohol still disgusts me, but its really only a matter of time.

[torrefaction]

I can guarantee that chart is wrong. The bottom shows the keys as the least dense of habitual users in Florida.

L OH FUCKING L.

But I'm with ya.

[Kelegacy]

I'm all for it. It will be legal for ADULTS, so I see no problem.

I remember that first temptation scene in Dewey Cox, when he's afraid to try weed. He doesn't want to get addicted (it's not addictive, his band mate says), he doesn't want a hangover (it won't give you one), it might get expensive (cheapest drug there is), but he might overdose (you can't overdose).

Found the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4SjwA5Odg

Really, all you need to know, and it's all true.

[Generation ABXY]

Yeah, I'm wary of that chart, too. I mean, the Number of Arrests section, for example, is useless without knowing how many crimes of each there were - if there were only 595K violent crimes in '08, then the police are doing a bang up job!

And, for the record, I'd probably be for legalizing it as well (though, of course, I have my own stipulations attached).

[Dostoyevsky]

Whenever I move back to the US, I'm moving to the state with easiest access to herb. No joke. I've been smoking for 15 years and am sick of having to defend or justify myself. Christ.

[rinichanraar]

Sweet. I'm already here.

EDIT: Hey, what ever happened to that super anti-legalization guy whose posts all had to do with pot?

[MagGnome]

Maybe Minnesota will legalize it next....ha!

The criminalization of marijuana is ridiculous.

[Hawkzombie]

I dunno. I could care less if it's legalized or not, but like anything, in excess it can lead to problems. My wife's dad is a chronic smoker for over 30 years, and he's fucking dumb as a stump. he's in his 50s and acts like he's fucking 12. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

I'll never smoke, tbh, but that's my choice. I think a lot of those who are against legalization are seeing pot as the gateway drug (lol) to others being worked on becoming legal, such as heavy hallucinogenic drugs like heroine. Where does one draw the line? The 'it's my body, my choice' argument can only go so far when taking a drug can directly cause you to harm others.

Legalize it and tax the hell out of it IMO. Smoking and drinking are terrible for you, but look at all those lovely tax dollars being earned.

[Generation ABXY]

Originally Posted by Hawkzombie

My wife's dad is a chronic smoker for over 30 years, and he's fucking dumb as a stump. he's in his 50s and acts like he's fucking 12.

I firmly believe most people act like that simply because they think pot gives them an excuse to. In a way, it's a bit like those non-alcoholic beer pranks...

Of course, I can't say for sure; I've never touched the stuff, and have no plans to. I'm also for legalization, though I also think it should be licensed.

[Hawkzombie]

Well, we both think he's tried harder things, but we know for a fact he smokes around 4-6 joints -daily-. She says that about 20 years ago when she was a kid he seemed a lot smarter and more well-rounded than he is now, and also smoked far less.

[MagGnome]

Originally Posted by Hawkzombie

I dunno. I could care less if it's legalized or not, but like anything, in excess it can lead to problems. My wife's dad is a chronic smoker for over 30 years, and he's fucking dumb as a stump. he's in his 50s and acts like he's fucking 12. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

I'm not saying that pot doesn't have any effect on a perfect mentally, but keep in mind that correlation does not equal causation. He might be an idiot that just happens to smoke a lot of pot, not a heavy pot smoker who has thus become an idiot. Still, it sounds like he smokes WAY too much.

For the record, I'm pro-legalization, but I don't smoke pot myself.

[torrefaction]

Originally Posted by Hawkzombie

I dunno. I could care less if it's legalized or not, but like anything, in excess it can lead to problems. My wife's dad is a chronic smoker for over 30 years, and he's fucking dumb as a stump. he's in his 50s and acts like he's fucking 12. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

I'll never smoke, tbh, but that's my choice. I think a lot of those who are against legalization are seeing pot as the gateway drug (lol) to others being worked on becoming legal, such as heavy hallucinogenic drugs like heroine. Where does one draw the line? The 'it's my body, my choice' argument can only go so far when taking a drug can directly cause you to harm others.

Legalize it and tax the hell out of it IMO. Smoking and drinking are terrible for you, but look at all those lovely tax dollars being earned.

Heroin is not a hallucinogenic. Hallucinogenics have a tendency to not be harmful to others or lead to long-term addiction, and a lot of the psychiatric community is STILL upset at the criminalization of MDMA. This also led to street based ecstasy becoming more of a hybrid drug, and less pure, leading to more deaths and addiction.

Besides that, one doesn't draw the line. One educates and skirts to the edge of the line, like cigarette smoking. Education, social mores, and good parenting do more to prevent addiction than criminalization every will. All it really does is send them to vocational school for criminals, oh wait...I mean jail.

[Generation ABXY]

Originally Posted by torrefaction

All it really does is send them to vocational school for criminals, oh wait...I mean jail.

Of course, if we change to the jails I have in mind...

[Kelegacy]

Originally Posted by MagGnome

For the record, I'm pro-legalization, but I don't smoke pot myself.

Same. I think I have smoked 2-3 times in the last 5 years. There hasn't been a single sensible argument I've heard against it being illegal yet keep tobacco and alcohol legal. I drink beer. I do it responsibly. I'm aware lots of people do not do it responsibly, but if we banned everything people COULD abuse, we'd ban a lot. WoW probably wouldn't be legal.

Pot...well, it's foolish to keep it illegal. The legality of it wouldn't affect my usage, but I don't see why other adults have to be criminals if they want to use the stuff.

[ShivaX]

Originally Posted by Kelegacy

I'm aware lots of people do not do it responsibly, but if we banned everything people COULD abuse, we'd ban a lot. WoW probably wouldn't be legal.

Well cars definately would be. I mean look how many people die in those things each year and look how many use them irresponsibly.

[MagGnome]

Originally Posted by ShivaX

Well cars definately would be. I mean look how many people die in those things each year and look how many use them irresponsibly.

As a regular pedestrian myself, I'm all for the banning of cars, or at least the assholes that drive many of them.

[Doogie2K]

Originally Posted by MagGnome

As a regular pedestrian myself, I'm all for the banning of cars, or at least the assholes that drive many of them.

As a regular driver, I'm all for the banning of dipshits on both sides of the vehicle.

(Yes, I can see you jaywalking in front of the hospital at 10 PM in dark clothing; lucky you, if I hadn't, you could've still crawled to the ER before bleeding out, you dumb fuck.)

[MagGnome]

Originally Posted by Doogie2K

As a regular driver, I'm all for the banning of dipshits on both sides of the vehicle.

(Yes, I can see you jaywalking in front of the hospital at 10 PM in dark clothing; lucky you, if I hadn't, you could've still crawled to the ER before bleeding out, you dumb fuck.)

I had nothing else to wear, you inconsiderate jackass. My pink hotpants were at the cleaners.

[Doogie2K]

Originally Posted by MagGnome

I had nothing else to wear, you inconsiderate jackass. My pink hotpants were at the cleaners.

Well, then, next time wear your dark-ass, hard to see clothes in the dimly-lit crosswalk instead of the nigh-unlit street.

Or take some of the reflective tape for your bike and stick that on the back of your coat. I'd settle for that. You can even make a funky pattern out of it, if you're feeling creative.

[Restlessavenger]

This is a very early step in the process, but it's a step in the right direction.

Although it is pretty much legal already assuming you have between 75 and 200 dollars and suffer from "insomnia" or "anxiety". There are about 50-60 "clinics" within about 25 miles of here, including a few services that bring it to your door if you want.
Having trouble finding a clinic? There is an app for that.