The Eco-Box - Why your new game boxes look a bit different

[Khrymsyn]

Originally Posted by Narradisall

This thread has made me miss old school PC game boxes....

Hell with the game boxes, I miss the old school game MANUALS.

Some of them were fairly entertaining or interesting (such as Star Control or Wing Commander)... and then there was Falcon 3.0 which basically contained a flight manual.

[MagGnome]

Originally Posted by Heretic Machine

It isn't about the cases being thinner, it is about the switch from a solid front/back, to this "spoke" shit. You could easily pick up one of these cases, and put your finger right through the box art and touch the game disk without opening the case. That is bullshit.

Oh, I had no idea they were that bad. Carry on then.

[EternalGamer]

Originally Posted by MagGnome

Oh, I had no idea they were that bad. Carry on then.

He's totally right. With these new cases, I will not be able to ram my forefinger into the front of my game cases and poke it furiously without making a hole in the case.

I consider this an assault on my basic rights as a human being. I should be able to poke at anything as furiously as I wish without worrying about making holes.

[EternalGamer]

Originally Posted by Wraith

It would be kind of cool to see old 360 cases recycled to make the hardware for the Xbox 1080 or whatever they're up to a couple generations out. Probably not practical, though.A few grocery stores around here have recycling bins sitting in the parking lot, with bins for the usual (plastic, glass), plus cardboard, magazines. Though it's only recently that they added cardboard, I think.

There are already CD and DVD cases that are made out of cardboard that are the same size/shape as regular DVD cases. I don't know why they just don't start using those. I imagine because they are probably more expensive than the cheap plastic.

[txshurricane]

Originally Posted by Heretic Machine

It isn't about the cases being thinner, it is about the switch from a solid front/back, to this "spoke" shit. You could easily pick up one of these cases, and put your finger right through the box art and touch the game disk without opening the case. That is bullshit.

I'm not arguing, but is that really that big of a deal? Does touching the disc with the label scratch them? I would think the old cases would scratch the disc more easily, and it's not that hard to implode a solid DVD/game case.

[Drayven]

Originally Posted by Heretic Machine

It isn't about the cases being thinner, it is about the switch from a solid front/back, to this "spoke" shit. You could easily pick up one of these cases, and put your finger right through the box art and touch the game disk without opening the case. That is bullshit.

Do you have one of those old school prosthetic arms? I mean really, do you like crush plastic/styrofoam cups when you drink from them?

[Kelegacy]

Originally Posted by Drayven

Do you have one of those old school prosthetic arms? I mean really, do you like crush plastic/styrofoam cups when you drink from them?

I crushed a kitten into pulp by just petting it. Hence, my inability to masturbate.

[txshurricane]

Originally Posted by Kelegacy

I crushed a kitten into pulp by just petting it. Hence, my inability to masturbate.

What a weird thing to be turned on by. I like naked women. Not so much crushed kittens.

[Kelegacy]

Originally Posted by txshurricane

What a weird thing to be turned on by. I like naked women. Not so much crushed kittens.

I think you purposefully misunderstand me.

[txshurricane]

Originally Posted by Kelegacy

I think you purposefully misunderstand me.

No, never!

[Ghostbear]

Meh, I throw my discs into a binder anyways.

[MagGnome]

Originally Posted by EternalGamer

He's totally right. With these new cases, I will not be able to ram my forefinger into the front of my game cases and poke it furiously without making a hole in the case.

I consider this an assault on my basic rights as a human being. I should be able to poke at anything as furiously as I wish without worrying about making holes.

Yeah, I still think this is a bit of an overreaction. I can think of many things in the world deserving of anger and woe, and these game cases don't make the list.

Originally Posted by EternalGamer

There are already CD and DVD cases that are made out of cardboard that are the same size/shape as regular DVD cases. I don't know why they just don't start using those. I imagine because they are probably more expensive than the cheap plastic.

Now this I can get behind!

[Purple Santa]

Originally Posted by EternalGamer

I consider this an assault on my basic rights as a human being. I should be able to poke at anything as furiously as I wish without worrying about making holes.

We try to do that to Mags and tell him it's our right but he gets upset. Maybe he'll listen to your reasoning....

[MagGnome]

Oh my...

I'm going to go there.

[Widgetcraft]

Originally Posted by txshurricane

I'm not arguing, but is that really that big of a deal? Does touching the disc with the label scratch them? I would think the old cases would scratch the disc more easily, and it's not that hard to implode a solid DVD/game case.

I'm not saying that I'm worried about the disks themselves being damaged, but personally, I don't like having a bunch of beat up game cases sitting on my shelf. That was one of the benefits of moving to DVD cases over jewel cases and cardboard boxes. Might as well package the games with nothing but the back of a slim jewel case and wrap it up in cellophane; I'm sure that would be super-green.

Just to be clear, I'm not basing this on speculation. My copy of Return of the Living Dead was packaged in a similar case, and I immediately noticed that something felt cheap the moment I picked it up in the store. You have to understand that when you're holding one of these things, you're likely holding it by the paper/rubber outside of the plastic, and putting any pressure on it at all dents the box art as there is nothing behind it. The spokes themselves are stupidly flimsy, it is obvious that in addition to the new mold, this is also a cheaper plastic (though that might not carry over to other releases). If I put any pressure on it at all (and I mean any at all; like enough to push a button on a TV remote) I can feel the spoke dimple outward. The rubber layer doesn't even look like it is fitted properly, as it is all wrinkly on the back, probably from being stretched inward during shipping while packed with other DVDs. It just looks bad.

[Mike Kelehan]

I honestly prefer these. Having a little give makes it easier to get the disc out without bending it. My new copy of You Don't Know Jack Volume 4 snapped in half when I tried to get it out of the case, so many years ago.

[jpc_theoneandonly]

I wish they would make cases out of wood. Redwood. And they would use one entire tree for one case. Because I am an asshole.

Maybe not to that extreme. I just think that this whole save the world kick everyone is on is pointless. I really don't believe that we are killing the earth. Sorry.

[EternalGamer]

Originally Posted by jpc_theoneandonly

I wish they would make cases out of wood. Redwood. And they would use one entire tree for one case. Because I am an asshole.

Maybe not to that extreme. I just think that this whole save the world kick everyone is on is pointless. I really don't believe that we are killing the earth. Sorry.

The recent bugaboo over the e-mails doesn't do much to change the mountains of research done on global warming; it really says more about not allowing a healthy and fully realized academic atmosphere that allows for dissent than it is about the actual body of scientific research.

Denying global warming or the issues involvng the scarcity of oil resources basically requires you to deny a belief in modern science, but perhaps you are one of those "the earth was created in 2,000 years" people, so I won't belabor that point. Just know it requires a pretty radical perspective.

But even if you take that stance, I don't see how you can can deny emperical evidence of all the tremendous amount of garbage we are producing. For example, there is about a thousand miles of plastic trash in the Pacific Ocean which has been the subject of study for over a decade now. It's not really deniable that it is there unless you want to deny your own eyeballs. You can go look at it. CNN just did a story on it, in fact.

Then there are the landfills where the mountains of non-biodegradeble plastic continue to pile up.

Here are some cell phones in Atlanta George dump. Keep in mind that this is all from one single major city:



Here are the cell phone chargers:



Go walk through a local landfill sometime and reallize that there are literally hundreds of thousands of them around the world then see how you feel about the idea that all this non-biodegrable plastic doesn't hurt anything.

[Savok]

Oh for fuck sake Dan Dan put down the Kool-Aid.

Wanna know why so much shit is in landfill? Because that's all it's good for. Used to be shit was made to last, now you're lucky to get 6 months out of something before it crumbles to fucking pieces.

I never had to toss game stuff until the advent of the CD and broken jewel cases became the norm. Now I'm going to have to buy replacement boxes when these shitty things break on me? Awesome, lets flood the god damn world with worthless crap and see what happens. Oh wait, we already did.

[Narradisall]

Thats second picture looks like something out of the matrix.

I don't have any issue with the cases being made like this (although they will never beat my awesome box PC Mechwarrior box *sigh*). While every other company can run out shit loads of plastic things that go into dumps as above though, while good, the game cases will make little difference in the long run.