More Modern Warfare 2 PC Hijinks: Limited to 9v9

[AgtFox]

Originally Posted by TheEpicOfTyler

What did Schafer do?

There's plenty of people out there that didn't like Brutal Legend, which was hyped to high heaven would be my guess.

As for who we blame this on, I would say it is squarely in IW's court. I think they made a deal with Activision: they could do what they want with CoD as long as Treyarch could develop a CoD game for the off year so they can continue to roll in money.

[crazyD]

Originally Posted by Karmakin

I'm going to go against the grain here.

I don't see how larger teams works for a game such as MW. Options are always nice, of course, but the nature of the maps/spawning system IMO is designed for smaller matches.

Now, I think getting rid of dedicated servers is stupid for other reasons. But smaller teams don't to me strike me as one of them.

I dunno, I had the most fun playing MW on large maps. I didn't have a problem with balance or anything.

[AgtFox]

Originally Posted by J Arcane

After my time with the demo, I maintain that L4D2 would've made a fantastic expansion pack, but charging full price for what's on offer here is ludicrous.

Then again, I didn't think the original was worth full price either. I only paid $20 for mine.

I don't own the original or plan on buying the new one. I'm an oddity, I know. I can see where you're coming from though, but from everything I've heard it is more than a simple expansion pack.

[violent]

Modern Warfare wasn't that good to begin with. I really hope this sells like shit on the PC because this trend needs to be shot in the water.

Correction: It was a good game, I just never got into it.

[DoctorFinger]

Originally Posted by AgtFox

Valve? Really? Yeah, there was the petition, but then the runners of that got to see Left 4 Dead 2 and it eventually led to the petition being pulled. Nevermind that the sequel never affected the pre-orders which were at 2x the orders of the original at the same moment from release.

The boycott fizzled, but the very fact that such a large and vocal movement came about to me proves that they're no longer on the pedestal they were on even a year back. MW2 may be the best selling game of the decade, but the bloom is off IW's rose, especially with PC gamers.

Blizzard is another one. The growing ennui with WoW, the Activision acquisition, the splitting of Starcraft II into 3 games, the lack of LAN play, all lowered Blizz in the eyes of gamers.

[J Arcane]

Originally Posted by AgtFox

I don't own the original or plan on buying the new one. I'm an oddity, I know. I can see where you're coming from though, but from everything I've heard it is more than a simple expansion pack.

Of course they've done their level best to sell it as such to make up for the obvious PR flaw, but in actual play it feels like L4D1 with a graphics skin, a few new gameplay tricks, and tacked on melee. "The game remains the same", as the 4e guys used to say, only this time it's true.

It's fun, but it's not $50 worth of new content.

Originally Posted by violent

Modern Warfare wasn't that good to begin with. I really hope this sells like shit on the PC because this trend needs to be shot in the water.

Well, right now on Steam, it's being beaten out by a football manager and a $20 "Diablo with mods". This despite them having been plastered all over Steam's front page for weeks, and a promotional sale on the first MW.

I don't think it's going to be anymore than modest at best on PC, frankly.

[violent]

Originally Posted by J Arcane

Well, right now on Steam, it's being beaten out by a football manager and a $20 "Diablo with mods". This despite them having been plastered all over Steam's front page for weeks, and a promotional sale on the first MW.

I don't think it's going to be anymore than modest at best on PC, frankly.

I really love PC gamers sometimes.

[AgtFox]

Don't have the computer to play MW2 probably, so that avenue isn't really an option. Don't even know if I'll be picking up the 360 version. Maybe Activision will send it, maybe they won't...we'll see.

I am disappointed in Infinity Ward though. Like someone said, I wonder what they're going to drop on us on release day. The leaked footage was not their fault (but it still would have been covered by the mainstream when people started to see it), but the PC problems and the FAGS video makes me question their sanity in regards to the people that brought them to where they are today.

Is the Infinity Ward group pretty much made up of the same people that were there when it was 2015 and in the early IW years? I honestly don't know and maybe someone else knows.

[Wilkz07]

glad i'm getting it (eventually) on console rather than pc. would rather be limited to what the console can do than expect more from the pc version with a pc that exceeds requirements.

[Ravenlock]

Originally Posted by J Arcane

I don't think it's going to be anymore than modest at best on PC, frankly.

Which I would cheer, if I didn't foresee the inevitable press release of "PC sales numbers below expectations; Infinity Ward driven to console development by PC pirates."

Still, they're making it extremely clear - to the point of extremely dismissive arrogance - that they no longer care about their game being a PC FPS, so I can't find myself caring much about it failing to sell there, no matter what they choose to blame it on in the end.

[J Arcane]

So? They quit the platform, whoopety shit. After shit like this, what exactly are we losing?

In the meantime, they make room for the guys who aren't dicks. DICE rededicating themselves to PC support. Those football managers and Diablo clones I was talking about. Bioware returning to the old school ways.

Fuck 'em. Party's better without 'em. This is the easiest platform to develop on in the world, there will always be newcomers to pick up the slack. PC gaming will never die as long as there are PCs.

[JayK47]

Well this steaming pile is breaking pre-order records on the console side. So we can basically go fuck ourselves since every lost sale on the PC is 2 more sales on the console.

And it looks like the game is being marketed towards consoles as well. Console gamers like killing innocents and calling people fags. At least that is what I gathered from the few times I was unfortunate enough to hear someone talk on Xbox Live. So yeah, we PC gamers need to stop being so "faggy" and get with the console generation.

[ikkir]

What a fracking joke...

At least the PC version has "mouse support".... OOoooohh what is that!

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by JayK47

Well this steaming pile is breaking pre-order records on the console side. So we can basically go fuck ourselves since every lost sale on the PC is 2 more sales on the console.

And it looks like the game is being marketed towards consoles as well. Console gamers like killing innocents and calling people fags. At least that is what I gathered from the few times I was unfortunate enough to hear someone talk on Xbox Live. So yeah, we PC gamers need to stop being so "faggy" and get with the console generation.

Ok, that's bullshit. And that's also why them forcing us to play with the general population rather than in party chat sucks as major ass. Playing with fuck heads you don't know would be the same on PC as it is on consoles. That's one reason why you have your precious dedicated servers. Nobody wants to listen that shit, console or PC.

[Deadend]

Originally Posted by JayK47

Well this steaming pile is breaking pre-order records on the console side. So we can basically go fuck ourselves since every lost sale on the PC is 2 more sales on the console.

And it looks like the game is being marketed towards consoles as well. Console gamers like killing innocents and calling people fags. At least that is what I gathered from the few times I was unfortunate enough to hear someone talk on Xbox Live. So yeah, we PC gamers need to stop being so "faggy" and get with the console generation.

Wow.. rage the fuck on, and then pop your head out of your ass.

As far as I can tell, the PC version will have the best graphics.. and the worst everything else, as the P2P will probably be worse than the 360, the friends-list using Iw.net will be worse than XBL/PSN/Steam, and there will probably be some CD-key/DRM crap as well.

IW has a bit of an inflated sense of the quality of their games, and I am kind of hoping that MW2 will be a mediocre SP game with a rehashed MP mod.

[Adam Blue]

To me, with they way CoD4 development was going, it seemed like the franchise was heading to consoles - no surprise here. I think PC-only gamers are hurting themselves by not paying attention to console gaming.

[Chris_D]

At what point should COD fans on PC just stick with MW1, which supports dedicated servers, higher player caps, etc. ? I'm sure there will be a reenergising of the mod community for that game now that MW2 seems like such a misfire. Especially because MW2 doesn't seem to support the mod community at all.

Another thing, what if some extremely clever hackers managed to break PC MW2 down and get in dedicated server support, upping the player count. The second should just be a case of changing the setting somewhere, the first, requiring considerably more effort I imagine. Copies of that would fly off torrent sites.

[JayK47]

Originally Posted by Adam Blue

I think PC-only gamers are hurting themselves by not paying attention to console gaming.

I think consoles are great for certain games. But I am just not ready to play FPS games, in particular online FPS games, on console when I have a perfectly good PC. The types of things I like about playing FPS games on PC are completely gone from a console, and now from the PC version of MW2. So if every major title goes to console only, I will be playing far less games, or playing whatever is left of PC games. So be it.

[Crowe]

Oh shit that list is just bad. Burn in hell Infinity Ward.

And just like JAY, there is no fucking way I will go to consoles to play FPS online. I have fun for a little while but I always end up going back to the PC where I feel much more comfortable.

[crazyD]

Originally Posted by Adam Blue

To me, with they way CoD4 development was going, it seemed like the franchise was heading to consoles - no surprise here. I think PC-only gamers are hurting themselves by not paying attention to console gaming.

My lack of dedicated server, low player count, and higher price point issues are mirrored on the console version, and I'd have to play with a controller. Just playing it on a console doesn't really solve anything.