More Modern Warfare 2 PC Hijinks: Limited to 9v9

[DoctorFinger]

Three months ago had you polled PC and console gamers to try and divine the most popular developer in the industry Infinity Ward very well may have come out on top. So very, very much can change in a season.

If all of the other reasons PC gamers have to be mad at the studio over their handling of Modern Warfare 2, now comes this: multiplayer matches in the game will max out a 9 vs 9. While that's one more a side than you get on the console versions of the game, it's vastly less than the average PC first person shooter, and way less than the 25 vs 25 on CoD: World at War (which was developed by Treyarch, not Infinity Ward).

I think the best response to this comes from our own Jackel on twitter:

Pretty soon you'll just be buying an empty box for the PC version of MW2 with a picture of the 360 version inside it.

Source - Ben Kuchera.

[Shadowstorm]

Would they care to announce any more reasons not to buy this game?

[DoctorFinger]

Originally Posted by Shadowstorm

Would they care to announce any more reasons not to buy this game?

Ben Kuchera again on Twitter:

Infinity Ward: "We're proud and happy to announce every copy of Modern Warfare 2 on the PC comes with the fucking swine flu."

[total]

And I'm done. Looks like I'll be buying MW2 on the 360 when it is around $20 (and that will be used). Activision is done for PCs. I won't bother buying another game from them on the platform.

[Shadowstorm]

(It'd probably be more accurate to replace IW with Activision)

[DoctorFinger]

It is kind of shocking how these Sacred Cows of gaming have been flung down in the past year or so. Valve. Tim Schafer. Warren Spector. Infinity Ward. All of whom were loved by gamers and, to an extent, could do no wrong. Now they've all, to varying degrees, lost the unwavering affecting and devotion of gamers.

[Jackel]

The decision to make it 9 v 9 is probably a smart one considering they gimped the game going with p2p as opposed to dedicated servers

Actually. I think Violent said it best on irc:

Violent: It's like getting a turd for Christmas and giving you a toilet to put it in rather than a mantle.

[AgtFox]

Originally Posted by DoctorFinger

It is kind of shocking how these Sacred Cows of gaming have been flung down in the past year or so. Valve. Tim Schafer. Warren Spector. Infinity Ward. All of whom were loved by gamers and, to an extent, could do no wrong. Now they've all, to varying degrees, lost the unwavering affecting and devotion of gamers.

Valve? Really? Yeah, there was the petition, but then the runners of that got to see Left 4 Dead 2 and it eventually led to the petition being pulled. Nevermind that the sequel never affected the pre-orders which were at 2x the orders of the original at the same moment from release.

I can somewhat agree with the rest of your list although I still like Schafer and Spector. Then again I still enjoy Disney stuff at my age.

I will say thought that Blizzard is about the only Midas touch developer out there that can do no wrong (there may be more, but they immediately come to mind). And if they think there might be something wrong, they'll cancel it before it comes out.

[Acidpoptart]

I knew it. There is no way you could cut dedicated server support and then allow large matches. I am surprised they are even supporting 9v9 rather than just 6v6. The networking model they are going with just can not support the large games we expect.

IW: I officially hate you now. You went from one of my favorite shooter developers to shit, in my book at least, so damn quickly. You some how managed to make Treyarch look better.

[Adam Blue]

Remember pre-ordering on Amazon gives you $20 for future game purchase...and NSMB Wii gives you $10...it kinda works out.

IW created CoD and brought the BF persistence system to the masses. Not much IMO. Treyarch has always looked better IMO.

Although this could be an Activision thing...what do you think?

[H.Bogard]

I seriously disagree with anyone antagonizing Valve.

And yeah, if anyone needed any other reason not to buy the PC version, this is it. 9v9 is pathetic. They're charging $60 for a PC game with a 6 hour campaign, no modding, and fucking 18 player multiplayer.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

Originally Posted by DoctorFinger

Tim Schafer.

What did Schafer do?

[Karmakin]

I'm going to go against the grain here.

I don't see how larger teams works for a game such as MW. Options are always nice, of course, but the nature of the maps/spawning system IMO is designed for smaller matches.

Now, I think getting rid of dedicated servers is stupid for other reasons. But smaller teams don't to me strike me as one of them.

[Superman's Dead]

I love how this is all coming out slowly. It's like, on release day, they're going to say, "Oh, yeah! PC only gets like two guns or something. We played a lot of pinball. Fuck Treyarch!"

Then they drop the mic and crowdsurf.

[Talanvor]

Funny, I thought it was going to be a hard choice between Borderlands and MW2 for the next shooter I buy. Thanks for making that decision so easy, Activision and IW!

[J Arcane]

Originally Posted by Shadowstorm

Would they care to announce any more reasons not to buy this game?

Here's some:

>Lowlights from the BestBuy Dev chat with IW regarding MW2:

>* Dedicated server questions were greeted by being escorted out of the chat.
>* Max players for all versions is 9v9. Yes, I said 9v9.
>* No record feature in MW2 for PC.
>* No lean in the PC version (Mackey-IW: The game is not balanced for lean.)
>* PC Game is not yet finished*

>Q: Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?

>Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

http://bashandslash.com/index.php?op...775&Itemid=111

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by TheEpicOfTyler

What did Schafer do?

I think it's the whole playing a RTS like an RTS when it was supposed to be played differently.

[H.Bogard]

Originally Posted by Talanvor

Funny, I thought it was going to be a hard choice between Borderlands and MW2 for the next shooter I buy. Thanks for making that decision so easy, Activision and IW!

There could always have been bigger community-made maps... oh wait!

[J Arcane]

Originally Posted by AgtFox

Valve? Really? Yeah, there was the petition, but then the runners of that got to see Left 4 Dead 2 and it eventually led to the petition being pulled. Nevermind that the sequel never affected the pre-orders which were at 2x the orders of the original at the same moment from release.

After my time with the demo, I maintain that L4D2 would've made a fantastic expansion pack, but charging full price for what's on offer here is ludicrous.

Then again, I didn't think the original was worth full price either. I only paid $20 for mine.

[crazyD]

Originally Posted by Shadowstorm

(It'd probably be more accurate to replace IW with Activision)

I doubt that, after all the quotes from IW defending this. I haven't heard that this is an edict from Acti, and IW seems to be really excited about the removal.

Originally Posted by TheEpicOfTyler

What did Schafer do?

I'm guessing he's talking about not releasing Brutal Legend on PC, but that's the publisher's call, not the developer's.

Originally Posted by Xerxes

I think it's the whole playing a RTS like an RTS when it was supposed to be played differently.

Ugh. People are upset because the game has fairly intricate controls but can and should be played in a very simple matter which is obvious if you pay attention? I bet the vast majority of the complaints on that front would be removed if there was no option to individually direct certain troops, which is an action that should be used in only the rarest of circumstances anyway.