Do Conservatives realize how moronic they sound?

[GunnyMo]

The level of just outright stupidity being displayed by so called "conservatives" in this country just jumped the shark yet again.

Some conservatives, driven by radio pundits and bloggers, are urging schools and parents to boycott the address. They say Obama is using the opportunity to promote a political agenda and is overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools.

"As far as I am concerned, this is not civics education -- it gives the appearance of creating a cult of personality," said Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Steve Russell. "This is something you'd expect to see in North Korea or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

Really? I mean...really? Obama addressing school kids about education is the equivalent of gassing Kurds or starving your entire population? Really?

Let's see, now where was G.W. Bush when 9/11 happened? Oh that's right: in a school reading to kids! He obviously must have been pushing his conservative agenda and "overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools". Of course!

Do these pea brained people realize how moronic they sound? What I'd really like to see is these folks just admit to their blatant racism and be done with it instead of trying to cloak it as some kind of moral outrage for the children.

A black man is president. Get over it.

[roboninja]

It really does seem like there is an undercurrent of racism to this. The hypocrisy of these people is astounding.

[Slack3r78]

GOP needs to finish imploding so the sane conservatives can bring reasonable discourse back to this country.

[Wraith]

So... you're saying we wouldn't be hearing the exact same stuff from the exact same people if the country elected an equally popular white Democrat President? Really?


And while this sounds different than Bush reading to a class of kids, in that it's a national address intended to be shown to schools nationwide, it certainly does seem like an overreaction to assume that Obama's using it to push an agenda. To claim that it's some sort of dictatorial propaganda.

"I think it's really unfortunate that politics has been brought into this," White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom said in an interview with The Associated Press.

"It's simply a plea to students to really take their learning seriously. Find out what they're good at. Set goals. And take the school year seriously."

And it's optional.

[Slack3r78]

Learning is socialist.

[GunnyMo]

Originally Posted by Slack3r78

GOP needs to finish imploding so the sane conservatives can bring reasonable discourse back to this country.

I couldn't have said it better.

[Ink Asylum]

Originally Posted by Wraith

And while this sounds different than Bush reading to a class of kids, in that it's a national address intended to be shown to schools nationwide, it certainly does seem like an overreaction to assume that Obama's using it to push an agenda. To claim that it's some sort of dictatorial propaganda.And it's optional.

Don't compare it to Bush II, then. Both Reagan and George Bush Sr. gave national addresses to schoolkids, and both of them had explicit political content in their speeches. Obama will be telling the kids to work hard and stay in school.

[Telefrog]

Originally Posted by Ink Asylum

Obama will be telling the kids to work hard and stay in school.

Socialism! You keep your government out of my public schools!

[Shieldmaiden]

The president is going to give an address to schools and he might talk about politics? OMGWTFBBQ!!!! What is the world coming to?

[boratika]

Originally Posted by BigJonno

The president is going to give an address to schools and he might talk about politics? OMGWTFBBQ!!!! What is the world coming to?

Keep the damn president out of politics! He might have political agendas...and stuff...

[National Kato]

President George H.W. Bush gave a similar address to school children when he was in office. No matter what Obama does the racists, idiots, and other fringe conservatives will make it sound like the end of the world is coming.

[Crowe]

Fuck, talk about some loony motherfuckers.

Don't really see stuff like that being said here is Aus (I don't pay much attention), not that anyone would really give a shit.

[GunnyMo]

Originally Posted by Crowe

Fuck, talk about some loony motherfuckers.

Don't really see stuff like that being said here is Aus (I don't pay much attention), not that anyone would really give a shit.

Duh. Y'all are too busy fighting off Clock Spiders, crocs bigger than buses and man eating koalas!

[OUX]

You are forgetting the 1/2 a trillion dollars that is in Obama's budget to form a militia that is as strong as the military and report only to the president. The indoctrination has to begin early! :rolleyes:

[National Kato]

Also, don't forget Glenn Beck's discovery of the direct link between John D. Rockefeller, Diego Rivera, NBC, and Van Jones, our new Green Jobs czar!

[Kelegacy]

They know how they sound. They are pandering to their base, who are ignorant and lack rational thought. They are like puppet masters. They HAVE to know how stupid their arguments are.

I read a news story this past week that linked some conservative thought processes (unable to feel uncomfortable even while holding onto two conflicting arguments) as a psychological issue. I found the article incredibly funny, but also unsurprising.

[GunnyMo]

Originally Posted by Kelegacy

They HAVE to know how stupid their arguments are.

I read a news story this past week that linked some conservative thought processes (unable to feel uncomfortable even while holding onto two conflicting arguments) as a psychological issue. I found the article incredibly funny, but also unsurprising.

Perhaps some of the politicians do but folks like Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter and Malkin? Very doubtful.

And if you can link that news article I'd love to read it.

[Vigil80]

Originally Posted by National Kato

racists, idiots, and other fringe conservatives

I was going to continue on my merry way, but I have to add something here. I understand that these folks wouldn't be saying these things if they were liberals. But I'm beginning to resent the level of "har har, silly conservatives." Racist? Maybe, though that hasn't been explicitly noted. Ignorant? Probably. But those things do not necessarily equal conservative.

I don't think folks would be as quick to announce here, those damn liberals, bitchy feminists, silly (sexual persuasion), backward (religion followers), etcetera.

As a conservative - right-leaning libertarian, to be exact - I don't think ill of President Obama's speech. I have always been underwhelmed by him, in a word. But this event doesn't smack of conspiracy. Just typical outreach to future voters, and desperation on the part of those polarized against him, something that isn't unique to his presidency.

[GunnyMo]

Originally Posted by Prizefighter

I was going to continue on my merry way, but I have to add something here. I understand that these folks wouldn't be saying these things if they were liberals. But I'm beginning to resent the level of "har har, silly conservatives." Racist? Maybe, though that hasn't been explicitly noted. Ignorant? Probably. But those things do not necessarily equal conservative.

I know what you are saying and totally agree with you. However, all of that talk is coming exclusively from people claiming to be conservative. I know not all conservatives are like that. In fact, I know it's mainly the hard line right wingers.

Racist? C'mon. Most of the "conservatives" complaining are from white, primarily southern, or southern leaning, areas of the country. Plus, I don't think I've ever seen this level of hatred and suggested violence towards a sitting president in my lifetime. Sure, most Americans didn't like GW Bush I do not remember armed gunman coming to town hall meetings with signs about "watering the tree of liberty". That oft played video of a white woman at a meeting all upset about how this "wasn't her America and she wanted it back"? You cannot tell me that was about concern over healthcare. There is a heavy undertone of racism to this hard liner conservative movement. Of course it won't be explicit racism because no matter how many people they think they have on their side as soon as they cross that line they are done.

[Vigil80]

I appreciate the sentiment.

Originally Posted by GunnyMo

Racist? C'mon. Most of the "conservatives" complaining are from white, primarily southern, or southern leaning, areas of the country.

I'm not trying to be annoying, but you're doing it again. Yes, a stereotype becomes a stereotype by being correct at one time or other, but does that make it something to cling to? What if I said the people fighting hardest for nationalized healthcare were minorities who just wanted more welfare? Does it matter whether or not I'm correct?

I'm not trying to defend anyone. I guess all I'm really saying is that I'm a white male conservative living in the south who doesn't mind that Obama's making a speech.

I'm also not denying that Obama is regarded in some circles with a heaping helping of racism. But blanket statements aren't any more flattering from one side of the fence, so to speak, as from the other.