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Old 08-06-2009, 01:06 PM   #1
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Peace In Our Time: Brutal Legend Lawsuit Settled

This must be what it felt like at the end of the Hundred Years War. The legal dispute over Double Fine Studios' Brutal Legend has finally come to an end.

The various sides in the conflict - Double Fine, old publisher Activision and new publisher Electronic Arts - were scheduled to appear at a court hearing today, but instead announced the settlement. Terms of the deal were not announced, but the title's release is no longer threatened.

Brutal Legend will be released on October 13 for the PS3 and 360

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Old 08-06-2009, 01:10 PM   #2
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Good news, after watching those opening play-throughs, this became one of my most anticipated titles of the Fall.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:12 PM   #3
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Agreed, Erich. I didn't want to spoil anything for me, but letting myself watch those videos only increased my anticipation for this game.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:14 PM   #4
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:18 PM   #5
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So Activision was delaying hearings to post-pone release, knowing they would lose. Wow. Infinity Ward needs to get under a respectable publisher.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:18 PM   #6
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I'm going to beat that dead horse one more time, PC version please!
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:29 PM   #7
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So Activision was delaying hearings to post-pone release, knowing they would lose.
ROFL. Go find evidence of that. Activision didn't delay the hearings, the courts did. But hey, y'know, truth never got in the way of seething fanboy logic.

And they didn't lose. Activision probably got millions more in the settlement from EA now than they would have even six months ago. There was very little buzz when Activision cut them loose, and now they reached a settlement, when interest in the game is at its height. Buy low, sell high.

It's just business. I really wonder sometimes when you guys will realize that.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:51 PM   #8
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ROFL. Go find evidence of that. Activision didn't delay the hearings, the courts did. But hey, y'know, truth never got in the way of seething fanboy logic.

And they didn't lose. Activision probably got millions more in the settlement from EA now than they would have even six months ago. There was very little buzz when Activision cut them loose, and now they reached a settlement, when interest in the game is at its height. Buy low, sell high.

It's just business. I really wonder sometimes when you guys will realize that.
I was just reiterating something I read. So, I guess that source was wrong. It's not like that never happens.

But fanboy? Where do you get YOUR facts in calling me a fanboy?
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:52 PM   #9
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Agreed, Erich. I didn't want to spoil anything for me, but letting myself watch those videos only increased my anticipation for this game.
I was a bit apprehensive as well, but I couldn't pass up commentary from the DF crew and I (rightly) figured they would just be covering the tutorial sections of the game.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:00 PM   #10
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I'm not surprised one bit. Since it was expected this was their end game all along. Hey, thats business for you though.

I hope Brutal Legend is even more of a success than I hope, purely as a kick in the teeth for the idiots that canned it.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:33 PM   #11
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ROFL. Go find evidence of that. Activision didn't delay the hearings, the courts did. But hey, y'know, truth never got in the way of seething fanboy logic.

And they didn't lose. Activision probably got millions more in the settlement from EA now than they would have even six months ago. There was very little buzz when Activision cut them loose, and now they reached a settlement, when interest in the game is at its height. Buy low, sell high.

It's just business. I really wonder sometimes when you guys will realize that.
Many of us don't care about the business side of the industry, the capitalist greed, we just want to play games. Activision was trying to leech off one of the games people are looking forward to most this fall. Cut loose a developer and refuse to publish their game at all, then want money after the studio finds a new studio and people start buzzing about the game. Like a bitter bitch who divorces her husband for no real reason but when he strikes it big later on and finds happiness with a new woman she goes after him for alimony.

As far as I'm concerned they are corporate evil incarnate. I know you work for them, and I don't hold that against you, but surely you understand why so many people dislike the assholes and their shenanigans.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:38 PM   #12
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Good fucking news! Glad to hear this hasn't impacted the release.

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Many of us don't care about the business side of the industry, the capitalist greed, we just want to play games. Activision was trying to leech off one of the games people are looking forward to most this fall. Cut loose a developer and refuse to publish their game at all, then want money after the studio finds a new studio and people start buzzing about the game. Like a bitter bitch who divorces her husband for no real reason but when he strikes it big later on and finds happiness with a new woman she goes after him for alimony.

As far as I'm concerned they are corporate evil incarnate. I know you work for them, and I don't hold that against you, but surely you understand why so many people dislike the assholes and their shenanigans.
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:03 PM   #13
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:05 PM   #14
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Aw shit. And here I was hoping my Brutal Legend patch would become a rare item.

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Old 08-06-2009, 03:11 PM   #15
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I know you work for them, and I don't hold that against you, but surely you understand why so many people dislike the assholes and their shenanigans.
That's something I did not know and now I see why his reply seemed so sensitive to my post.

Either way, as mentioned, as a gamer, I'm disappointed. And I give credit where credit is due. As much of asshats as EA was, since Riccitiello has joined up, they've been doing good for me and as a gamer and I publicly recognize that.
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Old 08-06-2009, 03:47 PM   #17
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Sorry Adam, I've been grumpy of late. 'Fanboy' was uncalled for and I'm sorry for it.

I guess I've just been arguing too much about this. This wasn't any kind of Activision ploy to deny fans from a cool game, it was a ploy to see if they could recoup development costs. People threw around the term 'cut them loose' when it comes to Double Fine's development of BL, but I guarantee you that Activision wouldn't let millions of dollars walk out the door.

What DF told EA when they were shopping for a new publisher, I have no clue. But it's pretty clear that the term 'settlement' means that EA paid Activision some money. You can't infer that Activision 'knew it was going to lose' and thus settled; you could more likely infer that EA realized that they'd have to pay SOMETHING and finally offered an amount that Activision liked.

One more thing: The lawsuit that Activision filed was to prevent the release of the game. The stories that went around a week or so ago trumpeting that the judge was 'inclined' to not take Activision's side was not because Activision's claims for dev cost recoupment were without merit, it was that Activision did not need to halt the release of the game for the courts to still be able to find in their favor: if Activision sued for those costs, the fact that the game was released would not adversely affect Activision's ability to recoup them from EA.

The lawsuit was a strategy card that Activision played in order to force EA to pay up. If EA thought they could get away without paying the millions of dollars in dev costs, then there's no way they'd accept any kind of settlement.

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Old 08-06-2009, 04:03 PM   #18
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Not necessarilly. They may have settled on DF dropping the counter suit, if Acti dropped this one. And the judge did say that Acti didn't really have a case.
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And the judge did say that Acti didn't really have a case.
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