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Old 03-06-2017, 09:06 PM   #21
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I unlocked the tower... Man the world needed an open world game where you clime towers to unlock maps.

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Old 03-06-2017, 09:23 PM   #22
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Oh yes. Yes, muddi. Please, try to shit on this game. It'll be delicious.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:28 PM   #23
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He's not wrong. The game doesn't necessarily do anything NEW, it just does a lot of old things well. Except for how weak (breakable) weapons are. Fucking annoying.

(Edit: I'm okay with the game, just noting that rose-colored glasses can make people miss a lot of the clear influences of the game.)
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:02 PM   #24
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Oh I'm not necessarily claiming it's doing any one thing new. It is, however, putting together a lot of existing things in an arrangement that I don't think has ever been done with this level of polish and style.

Though actually now that you're prompting me to think about it, the systems-driven mechanics do feel pretty genuinely new for this type of game. I don't remember a lot of other open world action adventure games where I had to deal with not being able to climb slick surfaces in rain, or cook recipes to boost my cold resistance so I wouldn't freeze on a mountain, or slowly tame a wild horse so that they would bond with me and I could ride them, or where setting meat on sufficiently hot ground would cook it (and vice versa on ice), or lighting a crate on fire would bake the apples contained inside, or where wearing metal armor is a lightning hazard, or or or or.

It's smart at almost every turn without being needlessly complex, and it's much more considered than either Zelda games or open world games have a history of being. The influences deserve attention, but the enhancements deserve praise.

Thank you for the tip, Troggles it seems the imgur uploader from Wii U, is broken, sadly, but that led me to learn that postimage.io works great, and you can get an image from there to Imgur quite easily if you want.

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Old 03-07-2017, 03:44 AM   #25
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Man, reading that reminds me of how I felt about Halo: CE.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:06 AM   #26
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At the risk of being a shill, I wrote this article for NWR on my experience with the Wii U version.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/h...-u-impressions
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:10 AM   #27
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In my opinion, it marries elements of Dark Souls, Elder Scrolls, Monster Hunter, Half-Life 2 (mostly the physics puzzles) and Zelda. It may not have any one thing that is particularly new, but to some extent successfully bringing together many things in a new way is itself innovation.

Either way, it is a well put together game.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:12 AM   #28
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Walking out into this grassy field shortly after dawn took my breath away last night:



The screenshot is nice, but in motion it was breathtaking.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:58 AM   #29
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Just git done with the second shrine, near the mountain.

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Question, and pardon my ignorance: on the Wii U, can it be played solely on the handheld controller as it can on the Switch? Or does it need to be "docked? That would be incentive for pulling the trigger on a Wii U.


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Old 03-07-2017, 09:11 AM   #31
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You'd need to be within like 20 feet of the WiiU console to play it on the handheld. It's also a dead platform. I'd just wait to find a Switch, man.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:34 AM   #32
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Question, and pardon my ignorance: on the Wii U, can it be played solely on the handheld controller as it can on the Switch? Or does it need to be "docked? That would be incentive for pulling the trigger on a Wii U.


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If you have a WiiU and want to play Zelda, buy it there. You can play it on the tablet. If you don't have a WiiU, then get a Switch.


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Question, and pardon my ignorance: on the Wii U, can it be played solely on the handheld controller as it can on the Switch? Or does it need to be "docked? That would be incentive for pulling the trigger on a Wii U.
You can play it solely on the handheld, as long as you're within range of the system. The resolution of the tablet isn't great, but it's very playable and I've spent at least an hour or two playing it that way on the couch just for variety.

I've found the range on my Wii U tablet to be about a room and a half. I can get to the kitchen from the living room but not quite the bathroom before it flakes out.

On the TV, the Wii U is going to render at 720p instead of 900p, but the Switch has the same framerate problems for Zelda on the TV as the Wii U does. (The Switch in handheld mode on Zelda is apparently framerate problem free.)

Aside from the enhanced portability it is exactly the same game on the Wii U as it is on the Switch in every respect (the occasional forced-motion puzzle is handled by the tablet in the absence of joy-cons), and the Wii U has a ton of really good games on it, so if you're interested in a Wii U anyhow I certainly stand behind it as a good console. Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD, the Bayonettas, Capt Toad Treasure Tracker, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Pikmin 3, Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, Mario Maker, a bunch of good indies, all the virtual console stuff... there's a lot worth having there. But obviously going forward stuff is gonna be on the Switch.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:50 AM   #34
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I've actually spent some time considering (because the inventory tracker sites have lied and said the Switch was in stock locally when it hasn't been) whether, if I had the option to get a Switch, I would re-start Zelda on it just for the extra portability, and I think my answer is that this is just a Wii U game for me, for now. I only have a 720p TV anyhow, so the resolution doesn't mean a thing to me, and I don't play enough games on the go to really need it in tablet form. It'd be nice to play in bed, but not hundreds of dollars and re-start my progress nice.

Playthrough #2 someday can be on the Switch, I think is where I'm landing on it.

(This all subject to change when Switch becomes actually available. )
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The game looks fantastic on the WiiU either way. The upscale artifacts are there but despite that it is great.

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Old 03-07-2017, 11:10 AM   #36
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Yeah, I frequently just stop and stare at the landscape for a minute. It's astounding how good it looks, and screenshots don't do justice to how it looks in motion. Their lighting work is exquisite.
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In my opinion, it marries elements of Dark Souls, Elder Scrolls, Monster Hunter, Half-Life 2 (mostly the physics puzzles) and Zelda. It may not have any one thing that is particularly new, but to some extent successfully bringing together many things in a new way is itself innovation.

Either way, it is a well put together game.
This is my feelings, minus innovation - it does a lot of things from various games better than the originals seemed to and marries them all into one game. It's an amazing game, I'm just not about to give them an award for originality, there's just a ton of borrowed pieces and parts. I'm okay with it, again, not a dig on the game at all, otherwise I certainly wouldn't keep glued to it like I am.
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Yeah, this sort of feels like a Blizzard game in that respect. A better execution on existing ideas sprinkled with just enough little bits of originality and charm that it ends up greater than the sum of its parts-on-paper.
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Hard to find innovation when you're trying to keep fans of a decades long series happy. Would rather have flawless execution than something new that gets old after a few hours (Skyward Sword being guilty of that).
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:53 PM   #40
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My only problem so far is as many have already said; you die quickly and with little warning. Those weird turret statues things one shot killed me last night and my face was like this ----->

It's not unfair or "Waaaaah! Too hard!" It's just more challenging than past Zelda games. This definitely feels like a more sophisticated game. Kids seeking an easy fun time need not apply.
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