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Old 02-02-2017, 08:10 AM   #1
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Zenimax Wins Suit Vs Oculus, Awarded $500M

Zenimax - the parent company of game publisher Bethesda - has won it's lawsuit against VR maker Oculus to the tune of half a billion dollars.

The damages stem mostly from the actions of former Id CTO John Carmack, who left Id and Bethesda several years ago to join Palmer Luckey at Oculus. Carmack was accused of taking loads of proprietary data from Zenimax with him when he left for the VR maker, a claim Carmack pretty much admitted to in full during his testimony. Oculus was later acquired by Facebook for $2B

While $500M is a lot of green, it's less than the $4-$6 billion Zenimax has been asking for. Zenimax' lawyers have indicated they may seek an injunction to halt all sales of Oculus hardware as a result of the judgement.

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Old 02-02-2017, 08:22 AM   #2
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I really bet given all the fallout from this Zuckerburg is regretting purchasing it now.


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Old 02-02-2017, 08:55 AM   #3
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So, that's an interesting case. How much of this is on Oculus vs. Carmack himself?
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Old 02-02-2017, 12:20 PM   #4
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Not a lawyer, but I'm guessing that the injunction might just be leverage to keep Oculus from appealing and that Zenimax is willing to let it go as long as they get paid.

Still not a lawyer, but it did sound like Zenimax had legitimate cause for complaint (just maybe not $4 billion worth).
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Old 02-02-2017, 12:50 PM   #5
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Remember Facebook bought Occulus for 2 billion. And that's Silicon Valley valuation. How would a payout twice as much make sense?

500M is still a big deal

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Carmack points out what everyone already knows:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00006735798590

"Expert" witness bullshit.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:41 PM   #7
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Carmack might not be a completely reliable source in this case. Then again maybe Facebook just couldn't afford a good legal team and their own experts?
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Old 02-07-2017, 06:42 AM   #8
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Carmack admitted on the stand that he knowingly copied data from Zenimax, and gave it to Oculus. The second he said that, it was game over. From then on it was essentially up to Carmack and Oculus to prove that they didn't copy particular sets of files, and that's very tough to do (particularly when you also admit to destroying the devices you copied the data onto).
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