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Old 04-30-2012, 11:04 AM   #101
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Simpsons hit and run had more in common with GTA, than Crazy Taxi.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:41 PM   #102
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:54 PM   #103
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What are examples of other games they've stolen and presented as if they thought it up? Killzone wanted to be a big console FPS, but it's so bad compared to Halo, that I don't think it counts.
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Achievements - Trophies
N64 Thumbstick - Dualshock
Wiimote - Move
Mario Kart - Crash Team Racing
Every Acid Flashback Anyone Has Ever Had - Metal Gear Solid plots

Again, I don't mind them stealing stuff. I'm totally cool with ripping off competitors, I just hate the way that they're clearly told "DO NOT MENTION THE OTHER COMPANY". Film studios don't do this nonsense, there's no problem with saying "I made Transformers, but with more explosions" or "It's like Titanic, but quieter and more personal". But games made by the big three are always "WE CREATED THIS IN A VACUUM WE ARE BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS OR CREATIVITY"

It's usually not specific games, but sometimes it is.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:26 PM   #104
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Achievements - Trophies
N64 Thumbstick - Dualshock
Wiimote - Move
Mario Kart - Crash Team Racing
Every Acid Flashback Anyone Has Ever Had - Metal Gear Solid plots

Again, I don't mind them stealing stuff. I'm totally cool with ripping off competitors, I just hate the way that they're clearly told "DO NOT MENTION THE OTHER COMPANY". Film studios don't do this nonsense, there's no problem with saying "I made Transformers, but with more explosions" or "It's like Titanic, but quieter and more personal". But games made by the big three are always "WE CREATED THIS IN A VACUUM WE ARE BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS OR CREATIVITY"

It's usually not specific games, but sometimes it is.
Now that you mention Wii/Move, I always thought this was amusing. Saw it posted somewhere. The Wii warning screen and the Move warning screen:



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Old 04-30-2012, 02:32 PM   #105
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Problem is that it's usually garbage that gets emulated. They should try copying Microsoft's infrastructure.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:32 PM   #106
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:37 PM   #107
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95% of the stuff we play today has been lifted from something else in some manner or another. When this genre becomes oversaturated with copycats, I'll complain. For now, Smash Bros. has needed a makeover for a long time.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #108
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:47 PM   #109
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95% of the stuff we play today has been lifted from something else in some manner or another.
Right. That's not what irritates me. Rip off whatever the hell you want, just give credit where credit is due. A simple "we thought 'what if Sony made Smash Bros?'" - which is a conversation that definitely happened, it wouldn't piss me off so much.

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Wasn't Namco doing one of these at some point? I could have sworn there was a Namco Smash Bros-clone announced.

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In a series with 3 games, and the first one was clearly just hammered together over the weekend? Smash Bros really hasn't gotten stale (though Brawl was not really an improvement over Melee)

Hell, you want a REALLY good game, let's have a 3-way collaborative project between Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. I want to have Master Chief shoot Mario into Kratos.

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Old 04-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #110
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:54 PM   #111
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Wasn't Namco doing one of these at some point? I could have sworn there was a Namco Smash Bros-clone announced.
Was that the Turtles one? I remember there being a Turtles game that looked very Smash Bro-esque.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:55 PM   #112
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Hey remember that time CliffyB said he ripped off Kill.switch?
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:56 PM   #113
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Right. That's not what irritates me. Rip off whatever the hell you want, just give credit where credit is due. A simple "we thought 'what if Sony made Smash Bros?'" - which is a conversation that definitely happened, it wouldn't piss me off so much.
There is no ethic in an industry that charges you $100 for a wifi dongle or $100 for 32GB memsticks. The issues that allowed this came and went yet nothing was done so, this kind of shit is par for the course.


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Wasn't Namco doing one of these at some point? I could have sworn there was a Namco Smash Bros-clone announced.

In a series with 3 games, and the first one was clearly just hammered together over the weekend? Smash Bros really hasn't gotten stale (though Brawl was not really an improvement over Melee)
Powerstone and the other really old one are the only ones I recall. I'm sure there are more but these odds already look better than most.

And while I think Smash Bros. has indeed become stale, it is solely to the lack of innovation through the iterations. The base game requires nothing more than maybe some tweaking but the biggest addition was the inclusion on online multiplayer which was completely broken. The genre itself though, I think has room to grow a bit.


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Videogame All-Stars. I'd buy.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:59 PM   #114
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:18 PM   #115
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Powerstone and the other really old one are the only ones I recall. I'm sure there are more but these odds already look better than most.
Yeah, whatever I'm thinking about must have been announced at least 18 months ago. I feel like the name "Namco All-Stars" or something was brought up? Apparently there's some 3DS project that might be collaborative between Namco/Sega/Capcom (heavy rumor territory) that might be called Pac-Man Smash or something.

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And while I think Smash Bros. has indeed become stale, it is solely to the lack of innovation through the iterations. The base game requires nothing more than maybe some tweaking but the biggest addition was the inclusion on online multiplayer which was completely broken. The genre itself though, I think has room to grow a bit.
Well, I would still love a version with working online. I'm still mad at getting destroyed in our on-site tournament because it was a laggy mess. I think Smash can stay at least as fresh as generic fighting games, genre-wise, if they make all the right decisions.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:21 PM   #116
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Well, I would still love a version with working online. I'm still mad at getting destroyed in our on-site tournament because it was a laggy mess. I think Smash can stay at least as fresh as generic fighting games, genre-wise, if they make all the right decisions.
The one time I tried playing Brawl online it was against Food Nipple. Now I don't know if you've ever gamed with Food but he made sure I did not have fun and he did a hell of a job of it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:25 PM   #117
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Hey remember that time CliffyB said he ripped off Kill.switch?
David Jaffe did say that he ripped off Devil May Cry for God of War. Sometimes it's good to give credit were credit is deserved.

Personally, I think it's ok to take a good idea and to improve on it but it is very tasteless to just straight copy and paste an exact game.

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Old 04-30-2012, 03:28 PM   #118
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So the devs hacked into Nintendo and stole the code, now?
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:38 PM   #119
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Was that the Turtles one? I remember there being a Turtles game that looked very Smash Bro-esque.
That at least had some of the same team behind SSB working on it. It was t bad, but some baffling decisions were made making that.

Thinking about it, there's been a few others like this, offhand I can recall a Shonen Jump-esque brawler for the DS, a Guilty Gear one, TMNT Smash up, and a Nicktoons title that was supposed to be out on the 3DS last year.
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