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Old 11-04-2009, 06:33 AM   #61
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:41 AM   #62
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:21 PM   #63
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:01 PM   #64
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I'm sure that has nothing to do with MS mismanaging them. Nope, nothing at all. Rare has only been making awesome, interesting games for about two decades now.
I'll see your bet and raise you a Star Fox Adventures, which was while they were still in Nintendo's camp. Terrible game.

Rare, in my understanding, barely has any of the employees they had back in the N64 era, especially in the upper echelons. While Microsoft may have moved some really good people in there, my understanding is that it's honestly a different company.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:15 PM   #65
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Well that's you then. To me they had the same feel vibe and open world feel to them. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and is set in a fantasy duck like world where that duck fucks the other ducks shit up all medieval duck style. Then that sir is a fucking duck.

... it's just that one duck is way better at what it does then the other duck.

Duck.
Zelda games focus on puzzle-solving, with some light combat sprinkled on top (light, as in, mash the A button). Kameo had almost nothing in the way of puzzles, and focused on meshing the attacks of your many forms to beat up large groups of enemies, and get a higher score.

They're similar in that they are games.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:26 AM   #66
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Zelda games focus on puzzle-solving, with some light combat sprinkled on top (light, as in, mash the A button). Kameo had almost nothing in the way of puzzles, and focused on meshing the attacks of your many forms to beat up large groups of enemies, and get a higher score.

They're similar in that they are games.
Well look at it this way, they are both set in fantasy worlds. Both have elemental shrines where you unlock abilities. Both have you increasing health by gaining hearts after a boss fight(and those boss fights were very Zelda like IMO). Both have big worlds to explore. The key difference is Link uses a sword shield and magical items he finds. While Kameo changes into elemental forms.

The gameplay of a Zelda game is more RPG/Action-adventure like. And Kameo is a beat-em-up/adventure game.

Anyways I felt that this was MS' answer to Zelda, or at least an attempt to have a Zelda like game in their library. I got a very Zelda like feel from the game. I guess you didn't.

Edit: also, the duck thing didn't do anything for you? I thought it was pretty funny. Especially Gorvi's awesome pic.
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I thought MS' answer to Zelda was that Azure game, or whatever it was called. I didn't think it was so bad, but apparently it wasn't so warmly received.

In fact, there were a lot of original ideas from MS on the Xbox, most of which just turned out mediocre. It's a shame that they moved away from doing original IP like that.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:33 AM   #68
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Wait, how is Kameo "MS's answer to Zelda" when it was in development years before MS acquired the game?
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:48 PM   #69
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Wait, how is Kameo "MS's answer to Zelda" when it was in development years before MS acquired the game?
Well then they acquired their answer to Zelda. Or they bought a game that had the same vibe as Zelda. Or perhaps I don't care. That'll be it!

Jeez, ya suggest a game is kinda like another one, and people get all bent out of shape.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:16 AM   #71
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You have to learn: reveal your buttons, and we will push them.
Especially Heretic. Dude seems to get off on arguing for arguments sake.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:21 PM   #72
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Especially Heretic. Dude seems to get off on arguing for arguments sake.
Normally I'd agree wholeheartedly, but in this case I have to back him up. I really see the same amount of similarities between Zelda and Kameo as I do Zelda and Halo
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Normally I'd agree wholeheartedly, but in this case I have to back him up. I really see the same amount of similarities between Zelda and Kameo as I do Zelda and Halo
  • Both main characters wear green
  • Both have swords
  • Both have annoying female sidekicks
They're the same game!
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