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Old 03-30-2009, 11:34 AM   #461
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City, mine, swamp, factory, boat? What's so bad about that?
City, mine, voodoo hut swamp, underground ruins, factory, underground giant complex, boat, bigger boat, volcano...??? I'm shocked there wasn't a space station somehow.

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This is a dumb complaint. You cannot make a bigger mountain out of a smaller molehill.
It's not dumb if it's something I found to be very frustrating. It just made things worse.

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Please play co-op.
That's not a valid response to criticizing the single-player experience that I wanted to go through when I started playing this. The only thing playing co-op will fix is the dumb AI. The rest of it will remain bad.

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Fair if you're a QTE hater. There's only about 20 button presses in cutscene the whole game, but whatever.
20 is 20 more than there should be.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:35 AM   #462
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I'm kind of surprised so many people are oozing about how great this game is. I personally found it to be one of the worst gaming experiences in the past few years.
As people have been saying, I think there's two different versions of the game. There's one in which Sheva does something besides die and flail, where the level design wasn't done on a Sunday afternoon and where actual enjoyment can be found. Then there's the version we have.

I think I said earlier I kinda like the bosses, and I do. Yes half of them are fucking gimmicks, but gimmicks require thinking. Any thinking is an improvement with this game.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:38 AM   #463
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Shouldn't have to play co-op to make a game awesome. Again, the only thing playing co-op will fix is the dumb AI. The rest of it will remain bad.
Why shouldn't it? When did the memo go out that a game shouldn't be co-op first and single player second? Does Capcom owe you?

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I do not mind QTEs, I often enjoy them, and I think they're appropriate as used in this particular game. You can argue that you do not like QTEs, but it's pretty obvious that you can't call others crazy for liking it when there's something in the middle that's basically a matter of preference.

edit: I have heard none of the hate coming from those playing the game co-op. Playing it co-op with my wife is one of the most enjoyable things I've done this year. She's so adorable trying to keep up with me and getting all scared if we get separated.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:39 AM   #464
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I think I said earlier I kinda like the bosses, and I do. Yes half of them are fucking gimmicks, but gimmicks require thinking. Any thinking is an improvement with this game.
I'll be fair, the bosses looked cool and for the most part got me panicking, which is what any good boss encounter should do.

I don't mind gimmicks with bosses, but I dunno, a few of them were WAY too overt. "HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD USE THAT FLAME THROWER OVER THERE, CHRIS." Normally when I was already going over there to check it out.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:40 AM   #465
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I don't mind gimmicks with bosses, but I dunno, a few of them were WAY too overt. "HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD USE THAT FLAME THROWER OVER THERE, CHRIS." Normally when I was already going over there to check it out.
Sheva doesn't talk in co-op.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:41 AM   #466
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Ten19, I think the people who really liked the game played co-op with someone else. I haven't seem many people raving about the single player experience.

You are right about the graphics though. This game clearly is the best looking game I have played. It is amazing.
I played co-op with someone else. Has Ten19 read any of my posts?
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Why shouldn't it? When did the memo go out that a game shouldn't be co-op first and single player second? Does Capcom owe you?
Don't shove words down my throat. I didn't say Capcom owed me shit, especially since I only rented it. But if a game has single-player, and I want to play that single-player, any criticisms based on the AI portions of said experience cannot be simply invalidated by saying "oh, play co-op."

I'm happy people enjoy playing it co-op. That means Capcom spent more time making it a fun multiplayer experience than they did a single, where my points still stand.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:43 AM   #468
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Please play co-op.
No, fucking no.

I said earlier if this had been a side game called "Resident Evil: We've Got Co-op Out The Asshole" it'd be fine, but it wasn't so it's not fucking fine, it's a fucking mess.

Years down the track it won't even be a good co-op game, you're all so fucking starved for co-op you're literally taking anything you can get your hands on.
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I'm happy people enjoy playing it co-op. That means Capcom spent more time making it a fun multiplayer experience than they did a single, where my points still stand.
This is exactly right. When they were making this game, they concentrated entirely on co-op. Nothing else. Hence the stupid checkpoint system (which wouldn't have existed without co-op). It is fun playing with other people, but it takes away from what past RE games were. This is a step in the wrong direction.

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Years down the track it won't even be a good co-op game, you're all so fucking starved for co-op you're literally taking anything you can get your hands on.
So god damn true!
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I played co-op with someone else. Has Ten19 read any of my posts?
Hey, I'm on your side. I was just telling him what everyone's response was going to be.
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Old 03-30-2009, 11:49 AM   #471
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No, fucking no.

I said earlier if this had been a side game called "Resident Evil: We've Got Co-op Out The Asshole" it'd be fine, but it wasn't so it's not fucking fine, it's a fucking mess.

Years down the track it won't even be a good co-op game, you're all so fucking starved for co-op you're literally taking anything you can get your hands on.
Well, this is LIKE an argument.

I ignored it when you said it earlier because the argument didn't make any more sense then, either. Nobody is required to put a big co-op warning sticker on the game. It's clearly designed, from top to bottom, to be played co-op. The single player is there so that you can play the game in the sub-optimal manner if you don't want to make friends because you're lonely and sad and nobody likes you and you're going to die alone. Also your pets hate you. Yes, even the fish.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles had a single player mode, too. It sucked, and far more than this does, without others. Nobody is obligated to make the games you want to play the way you want to play them.

edit: PS I'm actually feeling enjoyment when I play this game, I am not making it up.
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I like to game alone, I prefer being alone in general as people generally infuriate me.

Resident Evil 0-4 100% playable as single player games, in fact that's how they were designed. They were horror games too but lets not get into that again.

Resident Evil 5, unfuckingplayable as a single player game when you can't even beat the last boss on the easiest difficulty because your fuckwit AI partner won't do their fucking job.

MMOs have "Online Only" on the box, which is exactly what this should have.
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I like to game alone, I prefer being alone in general as people generally infuriate me.
Yo Broseph I don't wanna pry but maybe your problem runs deeper than video games.
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I thought my deep loathing of the cowardly gulible masses was general knowledge.
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Resident Evil 5, unfuckingplayable as a single player game when you can't even beat the last boss on the easiest difficulty because your fuckwit AI partner won't do their fucking job.
Did I play a completely different game? I beat the last boss in my first try.

I guess I downloaded a secret patch something that made the game playable in SP. You guys obviously need to get a hold of this patch. I had no problems with the AI.
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Did I play a completely different game? I beat the last boss in my first try.

I guess I downloaded a secret patch something that made the game playable in SP. You guys obviously need to get a hold of this patch. I had no problems with the AI.
The fact that you had no problems with the AI doesn't mean problems don't exist. Watch the latest Zero Punctuation and that describes exactly what happens. He's not even exaggerating.
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Well, this is LIKE an argument.

I ignored it when you said it earlier because the argument didn't make any more sense then, either. Nobody is required to put a big co-op warning sticker on the game. It's clearly designed, from top to bottom, to be played co-op. The single player is there so that you can play the game in the sub-optimal manner if you don't want to make friends because you're lonely and sad and nobody likes you and you're going to die alone. Also your pets hate you. Yes, even the fish.
You have got to be the most childish, immature person I've ever had the displeasure of reading posts from on the internet.
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Listen, maybe if you were more popular you'd understand. I'm sorry I can't relate, but as a married man with a salaried job, my own place, and tons of friends, it's really difficult for me to understand where people who live in their parent's basement are coming from? Maybe you should try showering instead of wasting all your time on the internet, then you could maybe have a girlfriend I don't know?
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This from the person who earlier in this very thread was lashing out at anyone who doesn't like RE5 and claiming they're not true RE fans?

I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread. I know it's not going anywhere, and I think if a mod closed it very soon it would be for the best.
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