Skyrim - should I play it?

[JayK47]

Ask yourself these questions.

1. Do you like backward flying dragons?

2. Do you like working for a guild that suddenly stops giving you missions because of a bug?

3. Do you like knife wielding invincible house guests because of a bug?

4. Do you enjoy long walks?

If you answered yes to at least 2 of these questions, I think you should pick it up. And with more DLC yet to come, who knows what whacky bugs you may run into.

[Karak]

Originally Posted by JayK47

Ask yourself these questions.

1. Do you like backward flying dragons?

2. Do you like working for a guild that suddenly stops giving you missions because of a bug?

3. Do you like knife wielding invincible house guests because of a bug?

4. Do you enjoy long walks?

If you answered yes to at least 2 of these questions, I think you should pick it up. And with more DLC yet to come, who knows what whacky bugs you may run into.

Wow...I can't wait to see the absolute hatred you will throw at AC3. Skyrim is a perfect game compared to that.

[JayK47]

Well to be fair, I believe most of those issues have been patched out. But it is not uncommon to get a new patch with new bugs. Had that happen in New Vegas. Zombie scorpions were cool for a little while.

I'm not a huge fan of the AC series. I came late to the AC party and have burned myself out in time for the big new release. Not sure how buggy AC games are at release, but by time I get to them, no bugs to write home about. The only "bug" in the AC series is repetition. Sort of hoping AC3 breaks that cycle.

I think if you have waited this long for Skyrim, you may as well wait for a Black Friday or other holiday sale or wait for the "GOTY" edition. Why even get it right now? They are still adding content and it is still nearly full retail at most places. A year old and still $60? Yep.

[Karak]

Originally Posted by JayK47

Well to be fair, I believe most of those issues have been patched out. But it is not uncommon to get a new patch with new bugs. Had that happen in New Vegas. Zombie scorpions were cool for a little while.

I'm not a huge fan of the AC series. I came late to the AC party and have burned myself out in time for the big new release. Not sure how buggy AC games are at release, but by time I get to them, no bugs to write home about. The only "bug" in the AC series is repetition. Sort of hoping AC3 breaks that cycle.

I think if you have waited this long for Skyrim, you may as well wait for a Black Friday or other holiday sale or wait for the "GOTY" edition. Why even get it right now? They are still adding content and it is still nearly full retail at most places. A year old and still $60? Yep.

Ya Bethesda are some buggy buggers.
I don't think AC's are known to be buggy at all. 3 is LOADED. But its the first one that seems to have that issue.

[muddi900]

People say Skyrim is a exploration game, but it's a combat-heavy game and the combat suck donkey nards. It is one of the boring games I have ever played.

[Widgetcraft]

I liked Skyrim quite a bit, but since you're going to be playing on a console anyway, I would recommend Dragon's Dogma instead. Better combat, more bare bones story (yet cooler). Sounds like it might be more up your alley.

I'm not sure why people didn't like the Skyrim tutorial area, it seemed far better done than previous games, with the possible exception of Fallout 3.

[menage]

Yeah, give DD a shot. It's my Goty

[Narradisall]

I honestly don't get people that pick up the latest Bethesda game expecting something that isn't a Bethesda game.

Buggy, crazy, exploring, random combat and weird things happening with a dash of general insanity. It's been that way since the begining, yet people pick up games like Skyrim and say they are buggy etc. I wonder if they drop heavy things on their feet somehow expecting different results other than blinding pain.

Actually on the point of the OP though.... No, it doesn't sound like Skyrim is for you. If you didn't like the previous games in the series and Fallout etc this isn't going to be your thing, save you money and buy somethign else. The suggestion above on Dragons Dogma might be more your thing.

[Panthera]

I'm still kind of baffled that people expect action game combat in an RPG.

[menage]

Originally Posted by Panthera

I'm still kind of baffled that people expect action game combat in an RPG.

Well, these days, why not. Crappy combat has more to do with old school limitations, not something which we should just accept.

Games like Amalur and DD prove good combat is also an option. Instead of just wildly flaying your arms around.

[Panthera]

Originally Posted by menage

Well, these days, why not. Crappy combat has more to do with old school limitations, not something which we should just accept.

Games like Amalur and DD prove good combat is also an option. Instead of just wildly flaying your arms around.

Good is very subjective. I'd say Morrowind had the best combat in the series, because it was more clear what was happening and your skill affected your chance to hit instead just increasing damage. The last thing I want to do in an Elder Scrolls game is rely on twitch skills to fight.

RPG combat is about resource management and decision making. What you bring to the fight should be very important.

[Karak]

Originally Posted by menage

Well, these days, why not. Crappy combat has more to do with old school limitations, not something which we should just accept.

Games like Amalur and DD prove good combat is also an option. Instead of just wildly flaying your arms around.

I agree with much of that but bringing scope into play here, DD is no where near as filled as Skyrim. And DD is my game of the Generation so far. So focus on some things goes elsewhere. Not that combat should be neglected.

Strange thing is I adore Skyim's combat...so there is that.

[Panthera]

Originally Posted by menage

old school limitations

Also, this is kinda bullshitty. There isn't some magical gaming progress treadmill, action games came before turn-based games.

[menage]

Skyrim is turn based?

In my opinion Skyrim combat boiled down to wildly swinging my axe around till everything dropped dead. That's actiony to me.

I agree with Karak scope is an issue, but ES combat really hasn't advanced much in the last 10 years imo.

[Panthera]

Originally Posted by menage

Skyrim is turn based?

In my opinion Skyrim combat boiled down to wildly swinging my axe around till everything dropped dead. That's actiony to me.

I agree with Karak scope is an issue, but ES combat really hasn't advanced much in the last 10 years imo.

Skyrim descends from games that brought turn-based rules into real time. Swinging your axe wildly isn't all that action-y, because it doesn't really take any skill. It's auto-attack without the auto. When you're fighting in an elder scrolls games, what you're doing is essentially:

• Picking your target, maintaining situational awareness of other targets
• Deciding which weapon or magic attack to use
• Watching your health, deciding when to retreat or heal
• Managing the use of magic/potion resources.

Elder scrolls combat hasn't advanced, it's been dragged backwards by concessions to people who expect their RPG to play like an action game.

[drewmg]

Tell me more about Dragon's Dogma. I've pretty much never even bothered with looking into it because based on name alone, I assumed it was an old-school RPG which, at this point in my life, doesn't hold much interest for me.

The only reason I thought I might like Skyrim is because every once in a great while, I feel compelled to get completely lost in a game environment.

[menage]

Originally Posted by Panthera

Skyrim descends from games that brought turn-based rules into real time. Swinging your axe wildly isn't all that action-y, because it doesn't really take any skill. It's auto-attack without the auto. When you're fighting in an elder scrolls games, what you're doing is essentially:

• Picking your target, maintaining situational awareness of other targets
• Deciding which weapon or magic attack to use
• Watching your health, deciding when to retreat or heal
• Managing the use of magic/potion resources.

Elder scrolls combat hasn't advanced, it's been dragged backwards by concessions to people who expect their RPG to play like an action game.

I don't see how that works with Skyrim, seeing as I've been swamped with 10 enemies ar once a lot whose only tactics seemed to be "it's coming right for us". There's simply no time to assess anything. Just running backwards swinging my axe.

I get how rpgs work, byt ES just isn't a tactical game for me.

[jpublic]

Originally Posted by JayK47

Ask yourself these questions.

1. Do you like backward flying dragons?

2. Do you like working for a guild that suddenly stops giving you missions because of a bug?

3. Do you like knife wielding invincible house guests because of a bug?

4. Do you enjoy long walks?

If you answered yes to at least 2 of these questions, I think you should pick it up. And with more DLC yet to come, who knows what whacky bugs you may run into.

Savok, is that you?

[Panthera]

Originally Posted by menage

I don't see how that works with Skyrim, seeing as I've been swamped with 10 enemies ar once a lot whose only tactics seemed to be "it's coming right for us". There's simply no time to assess anything. Just running backwards swinging my axe.

I get how rpgs work, byt ES just isn't a tactical game for me.

Even running backwards swinging your axe, you have to watch your health.

I'm not saying it couldn't be a lot better. I'm just saying that turning it into an action game isn't the solution.

[Karak]

Originally Posted by drewmg

Tell me more about Dragon's Dogma. I've pretty much never even bothered with looking into it because based on name alone, I assumed it was an old-school RPG which, at this point in my life, doesn't hold much interest for me.

The only reason I thought I might like Skyrim is because every once in a great while, I feel compelled to get completely lost in a game environment.

Check my thread about it. Its huge and still going.
Has all the data.