HOWTO: Cook the perfect hotdog

[Serapth]

See, I have never been much of a sharer and some people insist I must be kinder to my fellow man. So, here is my start... step by step instructions to cooking the perfect hotdog! Warning... may cause heart to stop...


First off, put a cast iron skillet on your stove top for maximum heat. Let it preheat for 3 or so minutes to get it nice and hot. If you are all about char, make that about 5 minutes. If you don't have a cast iron skillet, first off, shame on you! Second, use a normal frying pan, but let that bitch pre-heat 10+ minutes.

Next, toss in your hot dogs and give them a few seconds to sear. Literally 15- 30 seconds.

Now, toss in 1 1/2 pieces of uncooked bacon for each hotdog.

http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?id=440

Yeah, it looks kinda disgusting, but hold with me.

Now, turn and keep turning ALOT. You will burn if you leave meat unturned more than 20 seconds or so, and the bacon needs to be fliped right away, atleast until the grease melts into the pan. After a few seconds, you should have something that looks like this.

http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?id=444

Still kinda gross, but much more meal like in its form.


Keep at it, until you have something that looks like this:
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?id=446

Then remove, degrease with papertowel and serve!

http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?id=450

May look disgusting, but I promise you, its the best damned hotdog you have ever had!

[violent]

Looks tasty though I don't eat hot dogs.

[Vermillion]

Pig skin and horse anus together as one! The perfect meal indeed. :)

[JRR006]

On an episode of No Reservations, Anthony Bourdain put foie gras on a hot dog. I think I'd prefer bacon. Is that an inferior Vlasic pickle I see? Claussen all the way! ;)

[Serapth]

No no, its a Bicks quarter dill, um, quartered again.

[JRR006]

Ah! That's all right then. :)

[shunoshi]

The real kicker is the processed cheese slice. ;)

I'm a mustard guy; I don't like ketchup on my dogs. Mustard, onions and kraut, the way it should be.

[ClannerDelta]

The blurry camera makes it look like you're frying an Umbilical cord...

[Crittias]

The blurry camera makes it look like you're frying an Umbilical cord...It's not the blurry camera...

[MagGnome]

Lately I've been topping my brats with a bit of ketchup and brown mustard plus lots of sour kraut and a dill/tomato/onion relish that I made myself. They are superb, and I've been eating way more of them than I should.

[Serapth]

The real kicker is the processed cheese slice. ;)

I'm a mustard guy; I don't like ketchup on my dogs. Mustard, onions and kraut, the way it should be.

It absolutely has to be processed cheese slices. Real cheese is too dominate a taste.

[Spectre-7]

Lately I've been topping my brats with a bit of ketchup and brown mustard plus lots of sour kraut and a dill/tomato/onion relish that I made myself. They are superb, and I've been eating way more of them than I should.

For some reason, I thought you were a vegetarian.

[shunoshi]

For some reason, I thought you were a vegetarian.

Haha, Mags giving up big sausages? Not on your life. ;)

Lately I've been topping my brats with a bit of ketchup and brown mustard plus lots of sour kraut and a dill/tomato/onion relish that I made myself. They are superb, and I've been eating way more of them than I should.

This is why you belong in MN. :D

[DoctorFinger]

Amateur.

Take a hot dog (Boar's Head and Nathans are the best IMO). Wrap it in sliced cheese. Then wrap that in 1-2 slices of bacon. Sprinkle some of your favorite seasoning blend on the bacon (I prefer Northwinds Fire from Penzeys). Take some large diced onions, and spread them over a baking sheet. Place the Baco-cheese-dog on the onions, and place in a 400 oven. Bake for 25-30 minutes. The bacon will crisp, the cheese will melt, and the onions will absorb all of those flavors. You will die from it, but you'll die happy.

[MagGnome]

For some reason, I thought you were a vegetarian.

I never said that there was meat in the brats. ;)


This is why you belong in MN. :D

I love the stuff. My roommate turns up his nose, and he's a native! Oh well, more for me! :D

[n3rdXcore]

Just this last winter I discovered the wonder that is cream cheese on a hot dog. It's delicious, especially when paired with hot sauce.

[Telefrog]

Chicago style is all that you need.

http://i40.tinypic.com/117gzmp.jpg

[Crittias]

Chicago style is all that you need.Chicago style: putting WAY too much shit on everything.

[Spectre-7]

I never said that there was meat in the brats. ;)

Then, sir, I bitterly contest the Brat-ness of your Bratwurst. :mad: What have we to separate one sausage from another but their filling... Your veggie sausage may be some sort of krautwurst or tofu-wurst, but a Bratwurst it certainly is not. *Harumph*

...

I said harumph, sir.

[Serapth]

I never said that there was meat in the brats. ;)


Bratwurst is not bratwurst without meat!

[violent]

Meat in the brats, meat in the brats, meat in the brats with a baseball bat oh yeah, oh yeah, hoh hooooh.

[SilentScreams]

So you mean my Tesco frozen microwave hotdogs aren't the best?
Pfft.

Seriously...if cooking instructions are any more complicated than "put in oven at X temperature for Y minutes" then it's more effort than it's worth to me. :)

[Serapth]

Meat in the brats, meat in the brats, meat in the brats with a baseball bat oh yeah, oh yeah, hoh hooooh.

... you do not like green eggs and ham?

BTW, is your sig from the sublime song?

[violent]

... you do not like green eggs and ham?

BTW, is your sig from the sublime song?

Ya. And my previous statement is a take on the Ramones.

[BlackPete]

Provolone cheese. It's real cheese with a similar taste and texture of processed cheese, but without all that weird junk you see in the ingredients.

Or maybe gouda...

[Wackman3000]

I'll give the OP credit for at least using a cast iron skillet for making the dogs indoors, otherwise my post would have started with a massive font OBJECTION!!!

I tend to stay away from the generic dogs now adays, and opt for Turkey dogs/sausages or a higher quality all beef frank. As for toppings, I always like sauteing some mushrooms and onions in olive oil and spices before cooking the burgers, or better yet, frying up bacon with the mushrooms and onions. Then off to the grill with the dogs.
Big fan of swiss cheese on this combo of dog. Little ketchup mustard and sometimes mayo if I really feel like clogging the arteries.

My question to the Colony is, who here toasts their bun? I love giving the bun a little char on the grill before its done.

[Wolvie]

My fav yet oh so simple recipe, is as follows:

Grill a cheese bratwurst until it's charred and cheese is oozing out. Drop it in a bun, add a bit of mustard and cover with sour kraut. Perfection. :)

[Ultima Thulian]

I appreciate the sentiment behind this Serapth, but you Canadians must not know us Americans that well. We already knew this. Shit man, we put bacon and cheese ON EVERYTHING, and it always tastes delicious.

You Canadians have your hockey and moose, but when it comes to obesity and unbound gluttony, USA is number fucking one. Don't forget it! :D

[johnperkins21]

Chicago style is all that you need.

There is seriously something wrong with the relish they use. Other than that, I do dig a good Chicago dog.

[Serapth]

I appreciate the sentiment behind this Serapth, but you Canadians must not know us Americans that well. We already knew this. Shit man, we put bacon and cheese ON EVERYTHING, and it always tastes delicious.

You Canadians have your hockey and moose, but when it comes to obesity and unbound gluttony, USA is number fucking one. Don't forget it! :D

See, you Americans are the kings of obesity because you are lazy fucks, not because of what you eat! :) I mean, seriously, we are the home of poutine ( deep fried french fries, cheese curds and gravy! ) and back bacon ( think normal bacon, just 10x thicker ). We know a thing or two about clogging arteries!


Besides, the key to my recipe is cooking in the combined juices of the bacon and hotdog... its the togetherness that makes it #1AOK!

[JRR006]

Ketchup is for meek, flaccid hot dogs. Brats are beer-boiled and topped with sauerkraut, hot mustard, and onions.

When I was little I used to run out of the house at the first whiff of it, but now I rather like the briny cabbage.

[SilentScreams]

I could never ever eat mustard. I get on my brothers back all the time for saying he doesn't like stuff that he hasn't tried (any fruit except tomatos), but I'll admit I do that with mustard.
It's the smell more than anything. It puts me right off before it even gets to my mouth.

[Serapth]

Ketchup is for meek, flaccid hot dogs. Brats are beer-boiled and topped with sauerkraut, hot mustard, and onions.

When I was little I used to run out of the house at the first whiff of it, but now I rather like the briny cabbage.

A hotdog and a sausage are two completely different beasts and should be cooked in completely different ways.

A properly cooked sausage is simmered in 1/2" of beer on low-med heat, then transfered to a slow cooker where it is smoked in hickory for 1 - 1 1/2 hours, then flash grilled directly over heat for 2-3 minutes to lock in the char. That is, if you have the stamina of a saint...


I do have a fridge full of frozen sausage, a smoker thats been sitting empty and a desire to eat alot of meat ( nothing to be read into that!!! ), so perhaps there is a sausage cooking thread in the works! That said, expecting people to have a smoker is probably a bit much.

[shunoshi]

Ketchup is for meek, flaccid hot dogs. Brats are beer-boiled and topped with sauerkraut, hot mustard, and onions.

Listen to this man, he speaks the truth! :D

[Serapth]

I could never ever eat mustard. I get on my brothers back all the time for saying he doesn't like stuff that he hasn't tried (any fruit except tomatos), but I'll admit I do that with mustard.
It's the smell more than anything. It puts me right off before it even gets to my mouth.

Mustard smells like a ripe fart.

Given that this is the sensation I have with mustard, is there any doubt I hate it?

Besides, it is overpowering. It is like malt vinegar ( which I love ). I put malt vinegar on say, Fish and Chips, but frankly, it overpowers any underlying tastes, so I would want to put it on a premium fish.

[Raen]

Damn it. This thread has me craving a hotdog, but I'm too sick to eat anything good. The second I can eat I'm getting me a hotdog.

[Stmfuller]

Chicago style: putting WAY too much shit on everything.

I hate hotdogs plain, but I love Chicago style. You have seriously no idea what you're missing until you try it.


Also, if you over the age of 16 and put ketchup on your hot dog, you're not really a man.

Brats are beer-boiled and topped with sauerkraut, hot mustard, and onions.
It is seriously 5:40 in the morning, and would eat that for breakfast right now. I fucking love Brats like that.

[ShivaX]

I could never ever eat mustard. I get on my brothers back all the time for saying he doesn't like stuff that he hasn't tried (any fruit except tomatos), but I'll admit I do that with mustard.
It's the smell more than anything. It puts me right off before it even gets to my mouth.

I used to hate it till someone fixed something with mustard on it and I ate it out of courtesy. Now I love the stuff. Theres a wide variety in mustards. Just because your not a fan of French's Yellow Mustard doesn't mean you wont really enjoy some of the other variations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_(condiment)

[MagGnome]

Then, sir, I bitterly contest the Brat-ness of your Bratwurst. :mad: What have we to separate one sausage from another but their filling... Your veggie sausage may be some sort of krautwurst or tofu-wurst, but a Bratwurst it certainly is not. *Harumph*

...

I said harumph, sir.

Bratwurst is not bratwurst without meat!


They are "bratwurst-style" tofu dogs then, excuse me. :p

They also have Italian sausage and kielbasa. Yummy!


I usually don't eat much fake meat (insert joke here), but lately I've been craving them, so I've started buying them again.

I used to hate it till someone fixed something with mustard on it and I ate it out of courtesy. Now I love the stuff. Theres a wide variety in mustards. Just because your not a fan of French's Yellow Mustard doesn't mean you wont really enjoy some of the other variations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_(condiment)

French's Yellow is basically mustard in name only. That stuff is nasty. The unnaturally bright-yellow color should be a dead giveaway.

[Rakael]

Boil in beer. That is all.

[Ultima Thulian]

Beer makes everything better. In fact, my mom is marinating some chicken and beef in some beer right now, and Sweet tapdancing Christ, is it gonna be awesome.

[Wilkz07]

serapth - will try your way tonight.

[Shrinn]

I tried. I fail at using a skillet.

[Serapth]

serapth - will try your way tonight.

Let me know what you think!

[roboninja]

All the negative comments towards the ketchup are shocking. You use it with the spicy mustard and kraut, of course, but to leave it out is missing something.

[Rakael]

All the negative comments towards the ketchup are shocking. You use it with the spicy mustard and kraut, of course, but to leave it out is missing something.

Yeah, like missing a turd floating in your hot-tub.

[Ultima Thulian]

As far as I'm concerned, sauces, or "condiments" if you must should only be required for lower grade and poorly cooked meats. For example, if I got me a quality steak, there will be no need for me to get the A1. If it feels like I'm chewing into a raw ass, pass the A1.

[Serapth]

As far as I'm concerned, sauces, or "condiments" if you must should only be required for lower grade and poorly cooked meats. For example, if I got me a quality steak, there will be no need for me to get the A1. If it feels like I'm chewing into a raw ass, pass the A1.

... for the record, we are talking hotdogs here.......

[Ultima Thulian]

... for the record, we are talking hotdogs here.......

True. But the conversation is beginning to focus more around condiments like Ketchup and the like, and I see where this is going, and I'm just gonna make my stance clear as rain right now. :p

[Serapth]

True. But the conversation is beginning to focus more around condiments like Ketchup and the like, and I see where this is going, and I'm just gonna make my stance clear as rain right now. :p

Well, the cook a perfect steak thread can come soon enough. That said, when it comes to steak, its takes a pretty @$#@$ing awful steak before I break out the steak sauce. I will salt/pepper pretty much any cut of steak however, generally before cooking it.

As to pork, I don't know if I just hate on pork, but it needs sauce or needs to cook in something else with flavour. Frankly, I just don't get the joy of say, porkchops.

[mister slim]

French's Yellow is basically mustard in name only. That stuff is nasty. The unnaturally bright-yellow color should be a dead giveaway.

French's is a travesty. If you want the flavor of mustard in your food, then add mustard. If you don't want any mustard flavor, just don't add mustard.

[Borthcollective]

French's Yellow is basically mustard in name only. That stuff is nasty. The unnaturally bright-yellow color should be a dead giveaway.

That bright yellow is ground mustard seed and Turmeric. It's not an artificial color. And the king of yellow mustard is Plochmans.

[roboninja]

Wow, even something as benign as condiments have an elitist crowd :p

[mister slim]

Wow, even something as benign as condiments have an elitist crowd :p

I can be elitist about anything. I'm a superior class of elitist.

[MagGnome]

That bright yellow is ground mustard seed and Turmeric. It's not an artificial color. And the king of yellow mustard is Plochmans.

Well I'll be damned! I looked it up, and you are correct. French's actually doesn't have any weird ingredients in it, so I was incorrect.

[civil]

First: Serapth I know I make jokes about you being Canadian and all but shit...I don't want you to die, man. That is your path to an early grave. Think of the girl!

Second: What the fuck is wrong with this place when violent has to point out his Ramones homage?

Third: I had veggie brats yesterday for lunch. And they were good, fuckers. Damn good!

[Serapth]

First: Serapth I know I make jokes about you being Canadian and all but shit...I don't want you to die, man. That is your path to an early grave. Think of the girl!

Second: What the fuck is wrong with this place when violent has to point out his Ramones homage?

Third: I had veggie brats yesterday for lunch. And they were good, fuckers. Damn good!

I actually eat pretty well most of the time. Lots of stirfrys, most fresh, very little prefabbed food like hamburger helper ( which I miss, if at all honest ), or food from a can. I do eat a fair bit of pasta as well, which isn't great but oh well. I also don't eat chocolate, chips, pop or many of the various other things that make most other people fat.

My weekness though is suasage/summersuasage/peperonni... that stuff will be the death of me, but its soooooo good. Oh, and beer.

Generally once or twice a week or so, I have a brutally unhealthy meal, like last weekends bbq sauce slathered chicken wings.

[MagGnome]

Third: I had veggie brats yesterday for lunch. And they were good, fuckers. Damn good!

I've been eating a ton of those lately. I'm going to finish up the last two in my fridge today and then take a break. They are so good, but I shouldn't be eating them multiple times a week. :o

[TheKeck]

That does look marvelous. Although, the best hot dogs are barbecued.

[Serapth]

That does look marvelous. Although, the best hot dogs are barbecued.

I used to be a BBQ nazi until I purchased a cast iron skillet.

Now, my BBQ collects dust... actually it died and now all I have is my charcoal bbq. The fact I havent bothered replacing my BBQ is testament to the power of the skillet. Except when I am cooking for lots of people, that is seriously irritating.

I do however have a smoker as well, and that is a great great thing.

[SilentScreams]

What's the difference between a skillet and a frying pan, if any?
I admit that until this thread, I thought skillet was just an Americanism for frying pan.

Edit: Well Wiki tells me they are indeed the same thing.

[MagGnome]

What's the difference between a skillet and a frying pan, if any?
I admit that until this thread, I thought skillet was just an Americanism for frying pan.

Edit: Well Wiki tells me they are indeed the same thing.

Some people, such as Serapth apparently, use the word "skillet" to denote a frying pan made of cast iron. They are synonyms though.

[Serapth]

What's the difference between a skillet and a frying pan, if any?
I admit that until this thread, I thought skillet was just an Americanism for frying pan.

Edit: Well Wiki tells me they are indeed the same thing.

Its not the frying pan/skillet part to pay attention to, its the "cast iron" part.

A cast iron skillet ( or frying pan I suppose, though I have never heard it called that ) retains about 10x more heat than a normal frying pan. You ever go to a restaurant and get fajita's? You know that black metal pan they serve it in, that is the same thing. The excess and retained heat allows you to cook at a higher temperature, faster. It allows you to sear/char, something you cant do on a frying pan.

[SilentScreams]

Its not the frying pan/skillet part to pay attention to, its the "cast iron" part.

A cast iron skillet ( or frying pan I suppose, though I have never heard it called that ) retains about 10x more heat than a normal frying pan. You ever go to a restaurant and get fajita's? You know that black metal pan they serve it in, that is the same thing. The excess and retained heat allows you to cook at a higher temperature, faster. It allows you to sear/char, something you cant do on a frying pan.

Gotcha, thanks.
I think it was just the way the OP was written that made them sound like two different things.

[Serapth]

Gotcha, thanks.
I think it was just the way the OP was written that made them sound like two different things.

Actually it was an interesting question, because I refer to all my stuff as frying pans, except the cast iron one. For some reason, I don't think I have ever once heard "cast iron frypan".

[MagGnome]

Yeah, I've always heard them referred to as "skillets" as well.

Another nice thing about cast iron is that it is cheap! High quality cast iron skills are much cheaper than other types of frying pans.

[Serapth]

Yeah, I've always heard them referred to as "skillets" as well.

Another nice thing about cast iron is that it is cheap! High quality cast iron skills are much cheaper than other types of frying pans.

This is true as well, I think mine was like 15$ and will last me for life.

Although, to be honest, they are a complete pain in the ass. Unless you spend serious money on a machine washable one, seasoning and cleaning them is a bit of a pain in the ass.

[MagGnome]

This is true as well, I think mine was like 15$ and will last me for life.

Although, to be honest, they are a complete pain in the ass. Unless you spend serious money on a machine washable one, seasoning and cleaning them is a bit of a pain in the ass.

Yeah, that's the reason I don't currently own one. I'd like to, but I really don't know how to maintain one.

[Serapth]

Yeah, that's the reason I don't currently own one. I'd like to, but I really don't know how to maintain one.

It's not too hard if you are disciplined. Don't wash it in water. When you get it, rub it down with vegetable oil and let the thing bake in the oven on super hot for an hour or two to "season" it. Then, when you clean it, use something like course salt instead of soap. I also rinse mine in water right before I use it, as its about to get hot anyways, so its obviously not going to rust.

But, its very much not as easy as "throw in dishwasher, put in soap, press 'wash'".

[civil]

The key is to never use soap on them. Ever.

We have three and they are our main cooking pans, with very little cleanup muss and fuss. This (or something similar) is the best way to clean them:

http://www.kitchenwaremarket.com/oscommerce/catalog/images/kc886.jpg



EDIT: I lost my bamboo cleaner in a move and haven't replaced it so if that's daunting to you we've been using a vegetable scrubber with just as much success.

[MagGnome]

How do you get it clean without water?

[civil]

How do you get it clean without water?
We use a little bit of water when we clean ours. But if it's seasoned well enough a little is all you'll need, sometimes none if you can brush it all out. Good seasoning is the key!

I'd say I can show you come September, but your timid ass should get on this a lot sooner than that. :p Especially for all the vegan love you can throw its way.

[Serapth]

We use a little bit of water when we clean ours. But if it's seasoned well enough a little is all you'll need, sometimes none if you can brush it all out. Good seasoning is the key!

I'd say I can show you come September, but your timid ass should get on this a lot sooner than that. :p Especially for all the vegan love you can throw its way.

I don't have hippy tools like Civil here, so I am a bit more old school.

When I clean it, I sprinkle some course salt into the skillet with a small ( like drips ) of water, unless I am about to use it, than I use as much water as I want. Then I used a standard brush to rinse it out.

[civil]

I don't have hippy tools like Civil here, so I am a bit more old school.

When I clean it, I sprinkle some course salt into the skillet with a small ( like drips ) of water, unless I am about to use it, than I use as much water as I want. Then I used a standard brush to rinse it out.
Hippy tools? Son, dried straw and bamboo is the ways of the fucking ancients! I'm talking millennium-fucking-age here!

What kinda brush is "standard", anyway? Please don't tell me you're raping your pans with steel bristle. Please!

[Serapth]

Hippy tools? Son, dried straw and bamboo is the ways of the fucking ancients! I'm talking millennium-fucking-age here!

What kinda brush is "standard", anyway? Please don't tell me you're raping your pans with steel bristle. Please!

Just a plastic dish brush. Actually, I need to use my skillet now, I will show the cleaning process as its covered in pretty disgusting grease at the moment.

[civil]

Just a plastic dish brush.

EDIT: I lost my bamboo cleaner in a move and haven't replaced it so if that's daunting to you we've been using a vegetable scrubber with just as much success.
You say "potato-eh", I say "potato".

[MagGnome]

We use a little bit of water when we clean ours. But if it's seasoned well enough a little is all you'll need, sometimes none if you can brush it all out. Good seasoning is the key!

I'd say I can show you come September, but your timid ass should get on this a lot sooner than that. :p Especially for all the vegan love you can throw its way.

You'll have to show me this in September, as I'm curious to see how it works.

You can just brush out the dirt, grease, and bits of food?


I swear I'm getting the strangest sense of deja vu from this discussion.

Edit - For the record, I am quite timid at times. :p

[Serapth]

Skillet cleaning 101:

Dirty Skillet, ew gross, why the fuck havent I cleaned this yet?
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=462

Here is what I use, a brush and course salt. Here is how much I used, which to be honest, was way more than I needed
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=460

Here is cleaning in action
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=466

Here is the end result: ( the odd texture was from a failed seasoning attempt )
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=470


Oh and doing all this made me kinda hungry, so I tossed a few burgers into the pan:
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=464

And, here was dinner:
http://www.flexamail.net/GetImage.ashx?Id=468

Skillets, not just for hotdogs!

[shunoshi]

Another condiment of choice that I forgot to mention for all you brat/hotdog/sausage fans.

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o348/prajna79/sriracha.jpg

Trust me, awesome.

[civil]

That was a great set, Serapth. Again, I'm hoping that was a one time meal man. That much bacon grease (I assume it's bacon grease) in one lifetime is scary, let alone one pan for (most likely) one meal.

Mags, no need to fret. Our hippie food will only produce piles of rainbows and joy, not the poison you see above.

[EternalGamer]

I tried Doctor's Fingers' method tonight (made it for my partner, not myself, but I had a bite to try it). Worked well, but I had to turn the broiler on at the the end to get the bacon crisp.

As for the mustard debate, I like both American style and more spicy or dijon varieties depending on the type of food. Putting dijon on an american hotdog seems out of place and putting American style on a nice sausage seems equally out of place. You "no American style ever" people are just being elitest. :p.

[shunoshi]

Japanese lager with your burgers, eh Serapth? Good combo.

[civil]

I just noticed you put shit fake-cheese on there. You piss and moan about people not knowing quality beer and you use that shit? Putting yellow cellophane on a burger? That should be an affront to everything in you that even remotely knows about food quality.

Dude, I don't even know you.

[Serapth]

Japanese lager with your burgers, eh Serapth? Good combo.

I am a fan of Japanese beers, with certain food combos. Greasy food goes very well with Sapporo or Asahi. Steak on the otherhand, not so much, its weird how that works.

[Serapth]

I just noticed you put shit fake-cheese on there. You piss and moan about people not knowing quality beer and you use that shit? Putting yellow cellophane on a burger? That should be an affront to everything in you that even remotely knows about food quality.

Dude, I don't even know you.

Actually, to be honest, I am the biggest cheese fan in the world. I used to live literally a few steps from one of the biggest open air markets in North America ( Marche Jean-Talon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Talon_Market) ) and when I lived in Montreal I never owned a fridge or stove, because my god, who ever heard of places that rent didn't include fridges and stoves, damnit!

Anyways, I got in the habit of buying fresh food every day, literally minutes or hours before eating and it was a beautiful way to eat and live. What couldn't keep in a cooler for more than a day wasn't bought.

Anyways, I learned a great many things about fine food living there. Foremost was they had an international bakery and two international cheese houses at that market and I learned a great many things about fine bread and cheese.

Now, I no longer live in a city of 1M+, actually I live just outside a city of 400K and frankly there is 1!!!! place to buy cheese that isn't called cheddar. So, basically getting good cheese is an epic pain in the ass. I can get mass market cheeses for hugely overpriced prices or a few "common" cheese like gouda, but even something fairly common like Kasari requires me to go for a 45 minute car ride. In other words, good cheese is unavailable to me atleast easily.

Besides that point, processed cheese slices are good for melting. It's not cheese, but it has its places. When it comes to melting over greasy meat, or making a grilled cheese, cheese slices are the way to go. Any normal ( brick, wheel or block cut ) cheese just gets way too oily when you melt it.


EDIT: I lied a bit. I can get a fairly decent variety of good cheeses at my local grocery store, but they are bundled in the "organic/ethnic/other" isle and no, I am not kidding about the name, which basically means I am paying out the ass.

[civil]

Ah, you just reminded me that maybe the one thing I miss most about eating vegan is no cheese. :(

In Chicago there are still quite a few places that make you purchase your own fridge and stove. It blew my fucking mind when I encountered it. But if I had the presence of mind then to live the way you describe (only buying food as you need)...I would be a much more evolved human right now. I bet if I brought it up to the gf she'd be up for that. Sounds fucking amazing.

And I have to see that market. Sounds incredible. Oh Canada, I just can't seem to get away from you. :o

[Serapth]

It was a really good way of living, with some seriously huge drawbacks. That said, most of those big drawbacks revolved around meat spoiling, something you wouldnt much mind. Frankly a 5$ cooler and the occasional bag of ice would cover a vegan like you.


As to the Canada thing, you know you wanna move here. All your life has been spent moving closer and closer to the land of freedom ( psst, thats Canada ).

[civil]

Yeah yeah, that's what the gf says. She'll be spending a week in Vancouver visiting friends this summer because of course she loves it up there. Bleh! Though I guess your statement is true as I moved from Los Angeles to Chicago. One of these days, I'll have to visit instead of hating from afar.

I mentioned the buying food daily to her as I was crawling into bed. Her sleepy response was, "What about my cheese?" (she's an omnivore - one of us has our head on straight)

[roboninja]

Another condiment of choice that I forgot to mention for all you brat/hotdog/sausage fans.

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o348/prajna79/sriracha.jpg

Trust me, awesome.

heh, I had a bottle of that for quite a while, but have never heard of anyone else using it. I used it primarily for heating up my pasta dishes and stir frys.

[Borthcollective]

heh, I had a bottle of that for quite a while, but have never heard of anyone else using it. I used it primarily for heating up my pasta dishes and stir frys.

Some in my fridge too.

[civil]

Ditto with my gf. I hate the stuff, but she loves it.

[Rakael]

I adore that stuff. Just a dab'l do ya!

[MagGnome]

That was a great set, Serapth. Again, I'm hoping that was a one time meal man. That much bacon grease (I assume it's bacon grease) in one lifetime is scary, let alone one pan for (most likely) one meal.

Mags, no need to fret. Our hippie food will only produce piles of rainbows and joy, not the poison you see above.

That's good to know Civil! As long as there is Sapporo - that's what thing Serapth and I can both get behind. :D

Thanks for the pictures and the lesson Serapth! What is that white thing in the second picture?

Edit -

One of these days we will both make it to Canada Civil, and all will be good.


You "no American style ever" people are just being elitest. :p.

Me, elitist? Never! :cool:

[SilentScreams]

Mags isn't elitist...he's just better than you. :D

[Serapth]

Its salt Mags

[cppcrusader]

Another condiment of choice that I forgot to mention for all you brat/hotdog/sausage fans.

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o348/prajna79/sriracha.jpg

Trust me, awesome.

Awesome indeed it is. My brother and I refer to it as Chinese Ketchup and that stuff is good on everything. Burgers, dogs/sausages, tacos, burritos, subs.

[MagGnome]

Mags isn't elitist...he's just better than you. :D

Truer words have rarely been spoken. I'm really tempted to sig this.


Its salt Mags

I'm not an idiot! :p

I was referring to this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/JacobD/what.jpg

[SilentScreams]

Truer words have rarely been spoken. I'm really tempted to sig this.

That'd be cool. I've never said something sig worthy before! :cool:

[civil]

I believe that's a teapot.

Or Serapth has got himself some funky-ass dildo.

[MagGnome]

That'd be cool. I've never said something sig worthy before! :cool:

I just might fit it in there. Then again Rini never bothers showing up here anymore, so maybe her quote will get the boot. :(


I believe that's a teapot.

Or Serapth has got himself some funky-ass dildo.

I'm going with the latter, although the former is a possibility.

[Serapth]

My orfusii aren't large enough to accomodate anything that large....

Its a kettle...

[MagGnome]

Ah, I see. I always just use a regular tea pot and a stove.

Of course by regular I mean Le Creuset, but still.


Who said I was an elitist?

[Serapth]

Ah, I see. I always just use a regular tea pot and a stove.

Of course by regular I mean Le Creuset, but still.


Who said I was an elitist?

Oh, if we want to turn into tea nazis, i can break out my tea making paraphernalia, as I spent some time as a tea snob. That however is a kettle for sterilizing bottles and water for my child, although I dont really need it.

Now it is mostly used for when my mother-in-law visits and has her *puke*instant*puke* coffee. This part especially burns me as I generally have fresh ground coffee in the house basically, well... always, but she prefers *puke* instant *puke*

[EternalGamer]

heh, I had a bottle of that for quite a while, but have never heard of anyone else using it. I used it primarily for heating up my pasta dishes and stir frys.

I like Chili Sambal better. It's very siilar but comes in jars and has a bit more texture to it. I use it in everything:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_n1wjqsnuNhQ/R_N2XPmfEUI/AAAAAAAAAfw/1gmxkrjXXwA/s400/sambal.jpg

[shunoshi]

I like Chili Sambal better. It's very siilar but comes in jars and has a bit more texture to it. I use it in everything:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_n1wjqsnuNhQ/R_N2XPmfEUI/AAAAAAAAAfw/1gmxkrjXXwA/s400/sambal.jpg

Oh yeah, I use this with my cooking. It's phenomenal with stir fry.

[Borthcollective]

Oh, if we want to turn into tea nazis, i can break out my tea making paraphernalia, as I spent some time as a tea snob. That however is a kettle for sterilizing bottles and water for my child, although I dont really need it.

Now it is mostly used for when my mother-in-law visits and has her *puke*instant*puke* coffee. This part especially burns me as I generally have fresh ground coffee in the house basically, well... always, but she prefers *puke* instant *puke*

I prefer my puke instant too, no waiting around for that shit. It's the build up that's always the worst part.

[benson]

I can't believe no one else posted the way Olivia Munn eats a hot dog...

9kPT7vME6qs

[MagGnome]

Oh, if we want to turn into tea nazis, i can break out my tea making paraphernalia, as I spent some time as a tea snob. That however is a kettle for sterilizing bottles and water for my child, although I dont really need it.

Now it is mostly used for when my mother-in-law visits and has her *puke*instant*puke* coffee. This part especially burns me as I generally have fresh ground coffee in the house basically, well... always, but she prefers *puke* instant *puke*

Ah, thanks for the information. ;)


As for that video, I think he enjoyed that far more than she did.

Oh, and gross.