View Full Version : I chose to build....Rapture
Ink Asylum
05-29-2009, 09:35 AM
Libertarian paradise city in the ocean? It could happen! (http://www.alternet.org/politics/140253/seasteading%3A_libertarians_set_to_launch_a_(wet)_ dream_of_%27freedom%27_in_international_waters/?page=1)
Gone largely unnoticed, however, has been a fringe brand of libertarians who have been planning to escape the iron fist of democracy by founding a new country in the middle of the ocean.
One such escape plan currently is being hatched by the Seasteading Institute, a think tank that is encouraging libertarians to build large, floating, concrete platforms in international waters where they can live without the greedy hands of Uncle Sam taking their hard-earned cash.
Drug addicts, for instance, can benefit from an offshore facility that "offers a wide variety of high-quality drugs in a legal setting with available medical care in case of an emergency." Companies that don't want to obey patent laws, meanwhile, can use the platforms to "implement some portion of a patented process on a seastead" to sell cheap goods without paying royalties.
The best idea, though, is to have a seastead dedicated to experimental medical research where companies will be free from the iron fist of the Food and Drug Administration, which "has historically been slow to approve new medical treatments." One presumes that this platform will be distinct from the other seasteads in that it will be populated mainly by children who have five eyes and no knees.
Libertarians living in the ocean using drugs and experimenting with medical procedures? Hello plasmids! Evolve today!
National Kato
05-29-2009, 09:49 AM
Great, cancel all my flight plans over the Atlantic.
Ink Asylum
05-29-2009, 09:51 AM
Would you kindly reconsider?
Wraith
05-29-2009, 09:53 AM
Drug addicts, for instance, can benefit from an offshore facility that "offers a wide variety of high-quality drugs in a legal setting with available medical care in case of an emergency."I'm sure that highly paid, highly skilled doctors will flock to these lawless mini-utopias, just itching to start treating meth heads and heroin addicts. :D
I'm sure that highly paid, highly skilled doctors will flock to these lawless mini-utopias, just itching to start treating meth heads and heroin addicts. :D
No laws. No insurance and they could charge anything. The could charge slavery.
Companies that don't want to obey patent laws, meanwhile, can use the platforms to "implement some portion of a patented process on a seastead" to sell cheap goods without paying royalties.
Odd. Aren't libertarians supposed to be enthusiastic about property rights?
alienmastermind
05-29-2009, 11:39 AM
I'm sure that highly paid, highly skilled doctors will flock to these lawless mini-utopias, just itching to start treating meth heads and heroin addicts. :D
If there were no threat of malpractice, and their needs taken care of, possibly. :)
Also, if each meth-head gets to also donate his body and genetics to medical science as part of the 'do what thou wilt' mantra, I'd think that would be an interesting offer.
Ancalagon
05-29-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm sure that highly paid, highly skilled doctors will flock to these lawless mini-utopias, just itching to start treating meth heads and heroin addicts. :D
Hello everybody, I'm Dr Nick.
Narradisall
05-29-2009, 12:02 PM
Where are these super island citiees designers have been showing us pictures of for years now?
I'd love a creation of a pirate bay based one. Hilarity would be provided free!
J Arcane
05-29-2009, 12:30 PM
Odd. Aren't libertarians supposed to be enthusiastic about property rights?
It is in my experience that most libertarians do not really think out their political philosophy to a consistent level, but are rather little more than anarchists under a different headline, and pcik and choose what they're libertarian about based on whatever lets them get away with what they want.
alienmastermind
05-29-2009, 12:32 PM
It is in my experience that most libertarians do not really think out their political philosophy to a consistent level, but are rather little more than anarchists under a different headline, and pcik and choose what they're libertarian about based on whatever lets them get away with what they want.
QFT, Homie.
It is in my experience that most libertarians do not really think out their political philosophy to a consistent level
You could say that about just about anyone anywhere on the political spectrum. But it's a good point nevertheless.
Ink Asylum
05-29-2009, 02:00 PM
You could say that about just about anyone anywhere on the political spectrum. But it's a good point nevertheless.
Except that Democrats and Republicans routinely have to turn their theories into policy, where the Libertarians (and other third parties) get to dream without ever having their ideas tested by reality, at least not on a large scale.
J Arcane
05-29-2009, 02:17 PM
Except that Democrats and Republicans routinely have to turn their theories into policy, where the Libertarians (and other third parties) get to dream without ever having their ideas tested by reality, at least not on a large scale.
Well, I find Democrats and Republicans to be simultaneously worse, and better, than libertarians, in the sense that they don't even really have an underlying philosophy. Their platforms similarly twist and turn with the wind and personal selfishness, but that's because they don't really have a real coherent philosophy to begin with.
With libertarians, they have a philosophy, in theory, it's just fundamentally broken, and frequently ignored or heavily bastardized when it comes to actual practice, which is probably a good thing given some of the things that would actually result and that some libertarians claim to be about.
DoctorFinger
05-29-2009, 03:48 PM
They stole my idea for Garbageopolis.
Vulture
05-30-2009, 09:24 AM
sounds like a fun post-apocalyptic place to visit.
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