Neo-fascism on the rise in Hungary?

[Doogie2K]

From the Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/fascism-the-next-generation/article1131917/).

You'd think a country like Hungary with its history with the Holocaust would know better, but then the sort of people who would pick an arbitrary race to scapegoat for their social and economic problems probably isn't too focused on history (though the fact that the Myagar Garda eschewed black shirts shows at least a modicum of pattern recognition). The story of the shooting of a man and his son that leads off the article reads like a textbook case of willful incompetence, but then I don't know what emergency response and investigative standards are in Hungary relative to North America.

[ShivaX]

The medics tried to revive the boy, but barely glanced at his father, so Mr. Csorba, an army veteran, cleaned the wounds himself. “I don't know much about medicine, but lead will kill you if not removed fast.” He says the authorities wouldn't agree that arson was to blame. The police and medics insisted the fireplace had exploded, while firefighters said they suspected an electrical fire. No one examined the bullet holes or paid any attention when Mr. Csorba told them he had heard gunfire. As they moved around in the house, one man stepped on the remnants of a bottle that could have held the gas.

Yeah, sounds like a great place.

[CappinCanuck]

Yeah, hardly indicative of a fascist revival. I was at last year's National Day in Budapest outside their parliament watching the annual neo-fascist protest. Streets lined with police in riot gear, I even got to see their central command centre compound for the event. Anyway, yeah, there were maybe 20 people there heh. Like 50/1 police per protester.

Plenty of people at the actual parade though with Hungarian and EU flags alike. The article reads of artistic license on steroids heh. "The dark forces of hatred have been embraced by people so unhappy with what that future has brought, they've gone looking for someone to blame." Thanks for letting me know what to think instead of reporting.

P.s. I'm not Hungarian in case you were thinking it heh. I just hate journalists jumping into the academic sphere when they get into producing analysis without proper background, research or ability.

[CappinCanuck]

Oh oh, I just found these :D. I like the second pic... look at all those fascists breaking down the barrier, how will the police ever fight them back?

[Doogie2K]

Yeah, hardly indicative of a fascist revival. I was at last year's National Day in Budapest outside their parliament watching the annual neo-fascist protest. Streets lined with police in riot gear, I even got to see their central command centre compound for the event. Anyway, yeah, there were maybe 20 people there heh. Like 50/1 police per protester.

Plenty of people at the actual parade though with Hungarian and EU flags alike. The article reads of artistic license on steroids heh. "The dark forces of hatred have been embraced by people so unhappy with what that future has brought, they've gone looking for someone to blame." Thanks for letting me know what to think instead of reporting.

P.s. I'm not Hungarian in case you were thinking it heh. I just hate journalists jumping into the academic sphere when they get into producing analysis without proper background, research or ability.

Well, hence the question mark. The story paints a pretty sorry picture, and based on the data presented, it's easy to see how the conclusion was drawn. I probably should've noted off the top that I'm not sure how popular these sentiments really are, whether it's just a rash of racist violence and some backwater-town corruption or a legitimately serious problem. It's certainly the first I've heard of this, though that hardly invalidates things.

[CappinCanuck]

Well, hence the question mark. The story paints a pretty sorry picture, and based on the data presented, it's easy to see how the conclusion was drawn. I probably should've noted off the top that I'm not sure how popular these sentiments really are, whether it's just a rash of racist violence and some backwater-town corruption or a legitimately serious problem. It's certainly the first I've heard of this, though that hardly invalidates things.

Oh, I didn't mean anything for your part. I was only posting to counter the article. The article is the only thing I had a problem with, although in its entirety because it presents data that, with how it is presented, is largely falsehoods.

I just thought it was slightly comical I had pictures to present on this very topic from my random meandering around Europe heh.