COD:WaW Beta

[grimmjow]

So I'm in it, was wondering who else might be in it or who is interested in getting in. I don't have much of anyone on my friends list since I changed my gamertag soo.....

[rinichanraar]

I'd be interested, but I didn't pre-order or anything.

I'm actually excited about this game having co-op for the first time ever.

[grimmjow]

I'd be interested, but I didn't pre-order or anything.

I'm actually excited about this game having co-op for the first time ever.

PM sent............

[rinichanraar]

PM sent............

Hooray, thanks!

[fitbabits]

I'm in. If anyone cares.

[violent]

Hook me up. I'll play with you.

[rinichanraar]

I'm in. If anyone cares.

I thought we made it clear on this site that no one cares about you. ;)

[rinichanraar]

By the way, gamertag is Necromanticy. Don't ask. (The 360 was a present for my boyfriend because I knew we'd be living together and that it'd be half/mostly mine. Anyway, since it was an anniversary present, I let him choose a name and I said wouldn't complain. I wanted it to be uniform on the PS3, so that's my PSN name, too.)

[fitbabits]

I thought we made it clear on this site that no one cares about you. ;)
Heh! Very good point.

[Virtual Machine]

I want this. I want this now.
I would love this!

[Gerbs]

So how do I get in on this? I registered at Callofduty.com or whatever it was some time ago..

[anakin876]

I would also like to be in this - anyone know how people are acquiring beta invites?

[Gerbs]

I bet I get fucked for being Canadian.

[Virtual Machine]

I bet I get fucked for being Canadian.

You'd think we were used to it by now, eh?

[grimmjow]

Hook me up. I'll play with you.

PM sent..........

[fitbabits]

I bet I get fucked for being Canadian.
I hope not. Seriously.

[fitbabits]

So how do I get in on this? I registered at Callofduty.com or whatever it was some time ago..
I got in because I'm awesome. And for reasons you'll find out tomorrow...

[TrackZero]

Can someone get me in the beta? Pleeeeease?

[Sandman]

Can I get in? I'm awesome too but in a different way.

[wyeast]

I'd be interested, but I didn't pre-order or anything.

I'm actually excited about this game having co-op for the first time ever.
I'm excited at the prospect of fighting alongside DangerChan. :eek: :D :o

... although I'm not in the beta. :( Mainly because I'm not as awesome as Sandman. :o

[Gerbs]

I got in because I'm awesome. And for reasons you'll find out tomorrow...

Do you think I'll get in for reasons I'll find out tomorrow??

[fitbabits]

Do you think I'll get in for reasons I'll find out tomorrow??

Probably not, unfortunately. :(

[AgtFox]

Does Wayne Brady have to choke a bitch to get in on this beta? ;)

[Johan]

I thought we made it clear on this site that no one cares about you. ;)

:) He has a tough shell, but a creamy interior.

[Wedge]

I'm in the beta/demo. Also rumour says it will be available tomorrow, friday. This is very much a rumour though. As in I heard it from a guy who knows a guy. Can anyone confirm/deny?

[Gerbs]

I got in because I'm awesome. And for reasons you'll find out tomorrow...

Did something about this get disclosed and I missed it?

[Dukefrukem]

Is the beta on the PS3?

[Siraris]

You know I'd love to throw down with you Grimm.

[Sirindu]

Would love to get in here too. Haven't played CoD for a while.

Would you kindly point me in the right direction...?

[OldJadedGamer]

I got a confirmation from that french site that a code will be coming but I haven't gotten it yet.

[Dark Prince]

I"d certainly like to get in the beta. Wouldn't mind trying out the Co-Op.

This is on my radar...

[Victorvonviolence]

I'd love to get in! Was in the Cod4 beta and fucking loved.

Gamertag is Mayorvonownage anyway.

[Disgustipated]

I would like to try the beta. Anyone have an invite?

[Whunpo]

Man, I remember how much the CoD4 beta kicked ass. One of my life's most memorable moments so far was playing the CoD4 best with Scott, a few others, and Tycho from Penny Arcade. That was so fucking sweet.

[Sl1pstream]

I've entered my pre-order key (even though I didn't pre-order, working in retail still has a few perks). Now I'm waiting for an email.

I do have a second key, which I'll probably give away if I get in with this one.

[Drayven]

Huh, I'm not even sure where to sign up for this :P

[Sl1pstream]

If you pre-order the game, you get a key. It gives you some extra stuff on the website, a theme for your platform of choice and a chance to enter the beta.

[Wedge]

The beta is liiiiiive!

Didn't get my beta code in the mail though. I had to log on to www.callofduty.com ->my account --> account/profile and there the code was. Thanks to my friend who discovered this by accident. Downloading now.

[Kielaran]

The beta is liiiiiive!

Didn't get my beta code in the mail though. I had to log on to www.callofduty.com ->my account --> account/profile and there the code was. Thanks to my friend who discovered this by accident. Downloading now.

Blah. Tried that but don't see a code.
grrrrr, I shuold have gotten a code based purely on the amount of time I put into CoD4 :mad:

[Wedge]

Blah. Tried that but don't see a code.
grrrrr, I shuold have gotten a code based purely on the amount of time I put into CoD4 :mad:

Ahh, this only applies to those who got the code to get the code, the one you had to register on firsttofight (http://firsttofight.callofduty.com/enter_code), then you got a code to get a theme on Live and a promise to get the beta code later.

Sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up. :(

[Abyssion]

I'd like to try if anyone has an invite, if I magically end up with a key later on then I will gladly share!

[Kielaran]

Ahh, this only applies to those who got the code to get the code, the one you had to register on firsttofight (http://firsttofight.callofduty.com/enter_code), then you got a code to get a theme on Live and a promise to get the beta code later.

Sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up. :(

No sweat. Hopefully callofduty.com will give me one later.

[Lekon]

Me too, I'd love to give it a shot if there's any room left. I tried in callofduty.com but doesn't seem to be any luck for me so far.

[Grifter]

Man! Why do I always miss all the good threads?

Oh well, if there are any left I would love one. I may not be as awesome as the other guys but I make for some damn good target practice.

[Kielaran]

Me too, I'd love to give it a shot if there's any room left. I tried in callofduty.com but doesn't seem to be any luck for me so far.

I think someone is curious of the TK potential of the flamethrower.:eek:

[Lekon]

I think someone is curious of the TK potential of the flamethrower.:eek:


The force is strong in you. And the TK is strong in the Trench Gun. (if they have them)

[Mashidar]

Well I'm not in yet, but if I do happen to get in then I'll join up with folks. CoD4 was only best with fellow CoG members. After all I do miss getting Tk'ed by Lekon and Clanner.

[Evewalker]

I signed up a while back, but no dice in getting anything just yet. If anyone has an extra, that would rock. :)

I'm actually looking forward to the multiplayer, WWII setting or not.

[Kielaran]

Well I'm not in yet, but if I do happen to get in then I'll join up with folks. CoD4 was only best with fellow CoG members. After all I do miss getting Tk'ed by Lekon and Clanner.

/agree. If only either of them would play anymore.

Also, did clanner make the switch over to CoG?

[Khrymsyn]

I think someone is curious of the TK potential of the flamethrower.:eek:


Good lord, I'm screwed.

Yet, at least I know I'll be warm for the winter =P

[J3DI]

Dag! I missed this thread? I would love to play if only to get beat by Irene-chan (Rini).

Plus, I just got COD4 and want to see the difference in the two.

Is there a thread for the EndWar Beta too? That is one I actually got in on my own :)

[Aggort]

If anyone still can throw me one.

[wyeast]

Wait, what? There are invites bandied about? Dammit! :o

[Mashidar]

/agree. If only either of them would play anymore.

Also, did clanner make the switch over to CoG?

Not sure really, he's playing WAR now in the Fallen Guard so I'll ask him about it when I see him again.

[Kielaran]

Not sure really, he's playing WAR now in the Fallen Guard so I'll ask him about it when I see him again.

Great, thanks!:)

[anakin876]

Wait, what? There are invites bandied about? Dammit! :o

Not here - apparently there's just people bragging about there awesomicity. Bastards.

[Lekon]

/agree. If only either of them would play anymore.

Also, did clanner make the switch over to CoG?

My copy of CoD4 is MIA :mad:

Otherwise I'd be more than keen to join you guys again.

[Kielaran]

My copy of CoD4 is MIA :mad:

Otherwise I'd be more than keen to join you guys again.

Well damn, get on that! Clean, man! Clean!

[Sl1pstream]

Ahh, this only applies to those who got the code to get the code, the one you had to register on firsttofight (http://firsttofight.callofduty.com/enter_code), then you got a code to get a theme on Live and a promise to get the beta code later.

I did that yesterday and didn't get a code.

[Wedge]

Now I got an e-mail with the code.

[Wedge]

Quick impression:

Very similar to CoD4. Feels good, maybe a tiny bit more floaty than CoD4. Hard to explain, but I don't get the same feeling of mass.

3, 5 and 7 kills grants you recon plane (same effect as before), artillery (similar effect, but the bombardment lasts for a longer time and takes longer to set off) and...attack dogs. The attack dogs basically hunts down your opponents and attacks them. They were very annoying until I discovered that the best way of killing them is using the knife = 1 hit kill while it takes a couple of bullets to put one down.

The only vehicle I've seen is the tank in the train yard level. It basically has the same effect as a player controlled helicopter from CoD4.

The levels in the demo feels a bit cluttered. Fairly big, but cluttered.

I've only played team deathmatch, and when I die I often respawn right next to the action, while in CoD4 you'd usually respawn in a safer location. Gets in you the action faster, but it can also get you killed 2 seconds after spawning. Every now and then you respawn in a classic CoD4 safe location.

Level cap at 11 (1-2 hours of play before you max it).

[wyeast]

Not here - apparently there's just people bragging about there awesomicity. Bastards.

Dammit. :mad: I tried to register at the site, but it failed on me trying for the caod4 beta, and it's failed on me now. :(

[Wedge]

I did that yesterday and didn't get a code.

Which code? The theme code or beta code? The theme code gets mailed to you and the beta code I found in my account on callofduty.com, not the firsttofight-site.

edit: seems like there are some problems surrounding this beta. My clan got 20 "pre"-beta codes and I've been chatting to several clanmembers today who can't find their codes on callofduty.com. At this moment only 4-5 of us has managed to download the beta.

[fishinBULL]

I have the beta. Is my brother allowed to play it also if his gamertag is stored on my hard drive? I don't want to get banned lol.

[Kielaran]

Every now and then you respawn in a classic CoD4 safe location.


Never heard of these. I am sceptical they could have done a worse job of spawn locations than CoD4. Great game, but any worse and it would have been near unplayable.

[Wedge]

Never heard of these. I am sceptical they could have done a worse job of spawn locations than CoD4. Great game, but any worse and it would have been near unplayable.

Really? Never had any particular problems with it. Rarely will I die immediatly after respawn. Usually I respawn next the ally furthest away from the action. GRAW on the other hand, with 1 fixed respawn, was horrible at this.

[fishinBULL]

I have the beta. Is my brother allowed to play it also if his gamertag is stored on my hard drive? I don't want to get banned lol.

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[Kielaran]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishinBULL
I have the beta. Is my brother allowed to play it also if his gamertag is stored on my hard drive? I don't want to get banned lol.

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I can't say I am sure but I would guess that it is tied to your gamertag

[wyeast]

Really? Never had any particular problems with it. Rarely will I die immediatly after respawn. Usually I respawn next the ally furthest away from the action. GRAW on the other hand, with 1 fixed respawn, was horrible at this.
The trouble with CoD4 respawning is those instances (which happened sometimes, particularly in Domination) where one team gets "bottled up" in a relatively small area, constantly besieged by the other team, in which case you constantly spawn and die in the same place under a hail of fire.

... which is usually about the time I get annoyed and start chucking flashbangs like tic tacs so that you can make the prison break. :p

[Wedge]

The trouble with CoD4 respawning is those instances (which happened sometimes, particularly in Domination) where one team gets "bottled up" in a relatively small area, constantly besieged by the other team, in which case you constantly spawn and die in the same place under a hail of fire.

... which is usually about the time I get annoyed and start chucking flashbangs like tic tacs so that you can make the prison break. :p

Yeah, in domination that can happen. In fact it is bad tactic to take all three zones because the other team can then spawn anywhere. Take only two and the other team will be confined to one part of the map. But even so I have never been "shut down" the way you describe.

[fishinBULL]

The call of duty 5 beta was great...until just 5 minutes ago. These two guys figured out how to get underneath the map with that has the tanks. They both went 21-0 and it was pretty gay. Glitches like that will ruin the game

[fitbabits]

The call of duty 5 beta was great...until just 5 minutes ago. These two guys figured out how to get underneath the map with that has the tanks. They both went 21-0 and it was pretty gay. Glitches like that will ruin the game

It's a beta - bugs will invariably be present and squished before retail.

Oh, and "gay"? If indeed it was gay, then why the hell are you complaining? Unless, of course, you meant 'gay' in a disparaging way. Surely not?

[fishinBULL]

...sorry double post

[fitbabits]

The call of duty 5 beta was great...until just 5 minutes ago. These two guys figured out how to get underneath the map with that has the tanks. They both went 21-0 and it was pretty gay.

So wait, it was so 'gay' you decided to post about it twice? And wait for almost an hour to post the second one?!?

[fishinBULL]

It's a beta - bugs will invariably be present and squished before retail.

Oh, and "gay"? If indeed it was gay, then why the hell are you complaining? Unless, of course, you meant 'gay' in a disparaging way. Surely not?

i apologize...They were holding hands however :)

[fishinBULL]

So wait, it was so 'gay' you decided to post about it twice? And wait for almost an hour to post the second one?!?

well the first time I posted, right when I hit submit, my pc blue screened. So I let it sit off for an hour and I rebooted my pc and firefox asked me if I wanted to restore session. When this happened it brought me to the same screen...so I assumed that it had not been posted...then I felt like an idiot.

[Victorvonviolence]

Curse all of you in the beta

The beta for Cod4 was seriously the best part of that game...

[fishinBULL]

Curse all of you in the beta

The beta for Cod4 was seriously the best part of that game...

The Cod 4 beta was so sexy

[Psykoboy2]

Eurogamer is giving away keys to this right now (http://giveaways.eurogamer.net/giveaways.php?id=86924). Just got mine a few seconds ago.

[TheSilentDeath]

Eurogamer is giving away keys to this right now (http://giveaways.eurogamer.net/giveaways.php?id=86924). Just got mine a few seconds ago.

They appear to be getting hammered at the moment since it is loading so slow.

[AgtFox]

Wedge, there wasn't an NDA tied to the online beta was there? If so you should probably take your impressions out here. James can get away with giving impressions since he was given the go ahead from Activision.

[shunoshi]

Eurogamer is giving away keys to this right now (http://giveaways.eurogamer.net/giveaways.php?id=86924). Just got mine a few seconds ago.

Son of a bitch. TOO SLOW!!!! /cry :(

I'm going to have to go out today and preorder this I guess. They are still giving away beta codes with preorders, right?

[Wedge]

Wedge, there wasn't an NDA tied to the online beta was there? If so you should probably take your impressions out here. James can get away with giving impressions since he was given the go ahead from Activision.

Never saw any NDA, never signed any NDA. It seems like I got the "same kind" of beta key that people who pre-order get, concidering the mail I got ("Thanks for pre-ordering!").

[King3567]

Curse all of you in the beta

The beta for Cod4 was seriously the best part of that game...

I agree. I actually had a better time in the beta than in the full version. Kinda sad actually...

[EvoG]

Son of a bitch. TOO SLOW!!!! /cry :(

I'm going to have to go out today and preorder this I guess. They are still giving away beta codes with preorders, right?

See I just called my EB and they just *Shrugged*...lovely...:confused:

[EvoG]

Why is my sig unformatted now?

[AgtFox]

Never saw any NDA, never signed any NDA. It seems like I got the "same kind" of beta key that people who pre-order get, concidering the mail I got ("Thanks for pre-ordering!").
I just wanted to check. I'm not in it so I can't confirm or deny an NDA. Just didn't want talk to happen if it was under NDA.

[MalReynolds]

Just got the e-mail and im downloading :) WICKED

[wyeast]

*quietly waits for november*

[Food Nipple]

I didn't get an email, yet I had a beta code on my callofduty.com profile. If you had a charlieoscardelta.com profile, there's a way to link it to the new site, which seems to increase you chances of getting in. If I hadn't read about it on another site, I never would have found out I had a key, there's absolutely no notification.

This is what you should be looking for.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n305/foodnipple/cod5.jpg

[Xerxes]

Like I said in another thread, if you have a code, PM me. :)

[EvoG]

You have a Zune AND you were talking to Siraris...hmmm....OH YOU GOT THE BETA!! :D

[Psykoboy2]

You have a Zune AND you were talking to Siraris...hmmm....OH YOU GOT THE BETA!! :D

You got in the bet...HEY TRANNY SURPRISE!!!!

[EvoG]

Hahaha, talking to Siraris = Tranny Surprise!

[Sl1pstream]

I have 3 pre-order codes for whoever wants them. They give you a theme, the extra gun at launch and a chance to enter the beta. I didn't get selected when I entered mine though. :(

[EvoG]

PM PLEASE! You know I'm so there!

[shunoshi]

I'll take one! Please, please please!!! :D

[Drayven]

I sent you a PM but I'll post it here too. If you still have a spare pre-order code I'd love to give it a try.

[Sl1pstream]

Okay, since I've gotten a few private messages asking for it too: This is not a beta key. It's the code you get when you pre-order. What that means is that you get a theme for your dashboard and an email, when the game releases, with the code to download the rifle that others unlock later on. What this also means is that you can get selected for a beta key. Entering this code doesn't automatically mean that you get a beta key.

Also, more than 3 people have shown interest, I'll send them out in about an hour to the first 3 who responded through either a post or a PM.

EDIT:: Scratch that, I'll send them out tomorrow. Looks like I left them in my locker at work.

[fitbabits]

Just got my code, downloading everything now! See you online, suckers.

[Xerxes]

Slo-broooooo!

[anakin876]

All gone in less than an HOUR! 20,000 keys! yowza! http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=257365

[wyeast]

*sobs and continues waiting*

[TheSilentDeath]

I didn't get an email, yet I had a beta code on my callofduty.com profile. If you had a charlieoscardelta.com profile, there's a way to link it to the new site, which seems to increase you chances of getting in. If I hadn't read about it on another site, I never would have found out I had a key, there's absolutely no notification.

What pisses me off about that is that I had a charlieoscardelta profile but it won't let me retrieve it. Argh, so mad. Well it seems they fucking deleted my god damn profile. It's annoying since I have emails saved from the Call of Duty 4 beta with same email address.

[fitbabits]

Oooh... It's the "funnest" CoD multiplayer yet!

[anakin876]

What pisses me off about that is that I had a charlieoscardelta profile but it won't let me retrieve it. Argh, so mad. Well it seems they fucking deleted my god damn profile. It's annoying since I have emails saved from the Call of Duty 4 beta with same email address.

Don't feel too bad - I managed to recover my stuff, and I didn't get a beta code.

[Wedge]

What pisses me off about that is that I had a charlieoscardelta profile but it won't let me retrieve it. Argh, so mad. Well it seems they fucking deleted my god damn profile. It's annoying since I have emails saved from the Call of Duty 4 beta with same email address.

A friend of mine has the same problem. He tries to retrieve the password, but no mail ever shows up.

[MalReynolds]

Just got my code, downloading everything now! See you online, suckers.

Add me up Kaiblaker the GT

[Disgustipated]

I have 3 pre-order codes for whoever wants them. They give you a theme, the extra gun at launch and a chance to enter the beta. I didn't get selected when I entered mine though. :(

You owe me, Sl1p. Well, actually I owe you for the Halo 3 Zune.

'course, that bitch ex of mine took it. *shakes fist and does a gorilla howl*

[Disgustipated]

What pisses me off about that is that I had a charlieoscardelta profile but it won't let me retrieve it. Argh, so mad. Well it seems they fucking deleted my god damn profile. It's annoying since I have emails saved from the Call of Duty 4 beta with same email address.

Same here, they deleted mine too. Gopher cunts.

[Lekon]

I think someone is curious of the TK potential of the flamethrower.:eek:

I have to share this wonderful gem from the spacebattles forums.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3002/teamkillergw4aq1.jpg

[wyeast]

Oh come on now. I don't TK. :mad:

I just sneak around until I catch up with the enemy flank and all of a sudden it's fire from out of nowhere! :eek: :D

[MalReynolds]

Lol never seen the flame thrower :) i wanna Burn some Nazi's :)

[OldJadedGamer]

Wow... I got WAY too used to playing only Hardcore for the better part of 6 months. I simply cannot play regular team death match anymore. I don't think I'll be hitting the beta much outside of playing with close friends until a hardcore mode is added. This reminded me why I started playing Hardcore exclusively in the first place.

[Lekon]

Wow. The Callofduty site sucks ass. I still can't even try for a beta slot, because... I can't register. At all. I bring in my old Charlie Oscar, and it makes me "update my info". Problem: I get to "Make your avatar!" and I can't save the avatar. Period. Won't let me. Won't let me skip it, won't let me save it or move on in any way, just go back and redo the worthless avatar.

So, because there everyone has to have a patch of some sort, No beta for me! Lucky and joy.

[Mashidar]

Well looks like I got in after I signed up on the site. So I'll look for some of you folks. Or heck look for me.

Lekon: I had that issue as well, then all the sudden it seemed to fix itself for some odd reason.

[EvoG]

Wow... I got WAY too used to playing only Hardcore for the better part of 6 months. I simply cannot play regular team death match anymore. I don't think I'll be hitting the beta much outside of playing with close friends until a hardcore mode is added. This reminded me why I started playing Hardcore exclusively in the first place.

^Yup...

...though it's a testament to its "fun-ularness" that despite being Ground War only in the beta, I had a good time with the 5 hours I spent tonight.

Some thoughts...

Maps:


Maps are nice but feel like debris fields, except the Pagoda level which is very nice. What this means is rather than large set pieces with asymmetrical layouts and interesting structures, they feel like open fields of prefab geometry to fight amongst. Not terrible but not really interesting. Countdown vs Overgrown
Textures are far less detailed than in CoD4, making it feel more mod-like than the Next Big Game in the franchise.
Lighting isn't being used to great effect like CoD4. It was evident right away in that beta that the levels were going to be nice to look at. Here everything is rather evenly lit with no bounce lighting or color contrast, except the Pagoda level again.
Maps can be rather sprawling compared to the near claustrophobic CoD4 maps

Gameplay:



Feels like CoD4 pretty much in every way; high framerate and same core play. Satisfying hit indicators and Challenge achievements, weapon upgrades (Red Dots!) and Perks, some which sound great such as Second Chance (revive another soldier who has same perk) and Toss Back resets toss-back grenade fuses.
Perhaps my imagination but overall movement feels faster, especially sprinting.
Tanks...not as unbalancing as you would assume. Very slow moving (late Perk fixes that) and slow rate of fire on main gun, and mounted machine gunner is completely exposed like any mounted turret in CoD4.
Weapons feel good; sounding great, and sounding different (more machine-y/metal-y clickity clack)
Weapons can be tedious; they have too few rounds per magazine and seem to do little damage (to the body) for how excruciating their reload times are...and this is every weapon, including pistols. This won't matter as much in Hardcore though, as in Ground War here you're emptying weapons into the enemy to get your kills (except head shots of course). Once we can slow it down and stop spraying this should all work itself out, but I'll tell ya', it sure as hell made me REALLY want Sleight of Hand and I never use that in CoD4.
Considering Molotov's are an earned grenade upgrade, they are again painfully slow to 'ignite and throw' for just how little of an area they affect.
On the flip side the gas grenades are very effective and very disorienting...and the flare grenades have an added defensive use to close down a corridor as they burn for a period of time. Unless the enemy wants the full effect of the flare, they usually avoid it. Shades and Gas Mask Perks nullify these.
Finally a reason to Prestige. Not huge but starting over unlocks more custom class slots (up to 10 total). Doesn't mean I'll Prestige, but at least it's something.


Hardcore, full maps, weapons and perks and we finally have something new to do and it will be fun. Go preorder and get your beta keys (you can do this online through Game Stop...they emailed mine within 2 hours) and play with us! :D

[EvoG]

Shit I almost forgot!!



Artillery Strikes replace Air Strikes and last longer and are visually more impressive and awesome, but so far take a REALLY long time to come in. When you consider how time sensitive enemy location is, this is frustrating as it's not that difficult to get out of the area or simply hide under cover.
Dogs of War replace the Helicopter and they really work. First off they're more stressful for the enemy as the dogs can come from anywhere and must be dealt with, and there are plenty of them. They point the way to the enemy and are a great distraction as said enemy will always go for the dogs before they go after you, so if the dogs don't do them in you will.
Down side of the dogs if you're on the receiving end is the fact that they take three hits to take down (remember you can be run down by multiple dogs and note what I said about weapon capacities and reload times above). One knife will do it but if you have to deal with more than one that's not going to go well.
Jack Bauer saying "Fuck Yea!"

:D

[MalReynolds]

Loves it So far :)

[Gerbs]

Just got my token, going to download now. Not sure when I'll find time to play though, busy week for me.

[Drayven]

Just got an email from callofduty.com for being an "active" member with a beta token, woot.

[Psykoboy2]

Dogs of war, huh?

Well, I know one woman who probably won't like it when her SO plays this in multiplayer.

[Khrymsyn]

Dogs of war, huh?

Well, I know one woman who probably won't like it when her SO plays this in multiplayer.

No kidding. My girlfriend feels bad for the feral demons in silent hill when you kill them because of the doggie shreik they let out.

yes... feral demons. WTF?

(Anyone know of any methods of getting this Beta key? I don't have a pre-order nor the cash to do so ATM =( )

[wyeast]

(Anyone know of any methods of getting this Beta key? I don't have a pre-order nor the cash to do so ATM =( )

I don't. :( Other than going through the call of duty site, but like some of the others, they appear to have dump/lost/misplaced/flushed my profile from the charlieoscardelta days. :mad:

[Aggort]

Woo, I woke up this morning with a nice little email from CoD:HQ, Looks like I get to test the beta! As much as I love COD 4 I will definitely post a analysis on my blog.

[MalReynolds]

If i had an extra Key you guys would be the first to know and i'd diffently give it away for free and all but i had one key and i really wanted to play

[Aggort]

Unbelievably, they are having server issues with logging in and creating new accounts. It's not accepting some users password and you need to be registered and logged in in order to place your code in. I'm one of the unlucky bastards.

[MalReynolds]

I got mine just sent to me lol my Beta Code of course

PS Aggort add me up when you get it straighten up ... KaiBlaker is my GT

[Food Nipple]

Some thoughts...
<snip>


That pretty much covers it, I've got a couple things to add.

The levels definitely aren't as impressive looking as the ones in CoD4. Everything just looks a bit flatter, and as a result it can be harder to spot people. Part of this may be because it's a beta. It's not uncommon for xbox betas to use reduced texture quality to keep the file sizes down for the downloads.

The spawn system doesn't seem to work as well as CoD4. I've killed people only to have them respawn on top of me and kill me before I can even reload. This is the most noticeable on the big round arena map, probably because it's way more open than most CoD4 maps, and the spawn system wasn't designed with that style of map in mind.

Recon planes seem to last for less time than UAVs.

Artillery strikes are very hard to hit people with. They fire so slow that you won't get kills if you drop it directly on the enemy; they'll all have moved before it hits.

Dogs are good, very good, probably too good. Just like CoD4's helicopter, dog kills can count towards kill streak rewards with one significant change. Even if you die, dog kills will still count towards kill streaks on your next life. Which means it's easier than ever to get one set of dogs to unleash as soon as your previous one is up. While a coordinated team could take down a chopper before it could even fire, dogs aren't as easy to deal with thanks to their numbers.

Personally, I would have preferred that they go the other way with kill streak rewards and only counted kills that you got with your own weapons. I thought it was already too hard for the losing team to fight back sometimes in CoD4 (Bog, Wet Works), and now it seems downright impossible.

There is a CTF playlist, I'm going to try it out tonight.

[TheSilentDeath]

Wow. The Callofduty site sucks ass. I still can't even try for a beta slot, because... I can't register. At all. I bring in my old Charlie Oscar, and it makes me "update my info". Problem: I get to "Make your avatar!" and I can't save the avatar. Period. Won't let me. Won't let me skip it, won't let me save it or move on in any way, just go back and redo the worthless avatar.

So, because there everyone has to have a patch of some sort, No beta for me! Lucky and joy.

At least they didn't delete your old charlie oscar account, but yea the same thing is happening to me.

[MalReynolds]

BTW Dogs SUCK .... Helicopter better but i understand they needed to replace them because they didn't exist during ww2

[Aggort]

At least they didn't delete your old charlie oscar account, but yea the same thing is happening to me.

That's what I was talking about also. I mean seriously I got a fucking code and can't do shit with it.

[TrackZero]

That's what I was talking about also. I mean seriously I got a fucking code and can't do shit with it.

Hell man, I can't even make a new account, let alone figure out how to restore my old one from charlieoscardelta. It just locks at the avatar thing, same issue. As well, if I tell it to mail me my password, it says "oh yeah, sure, we mailed it to you" and jack and shit show up on the other side.

[Aggort]

Hell man, I can't even make a new account, let alone figure out how to restore my old one from charlieoscardelta. It just locks at the avatar thing, same issue. As well, if I tell it to mail me my password, it says "oh yeah, sure, we mailed it to you" and jack and shit show up on the other side.

My problem, in my password reminder email it just shows this.

Your Activision pasword is: .

Yes that's the direct quote.

[EvoG]

The spawn system doesn't seem to work as well as CoD4. I've killed people only to have them respawn on top of me and kill me before I can even reload. This is the most noticeable on the big round arena map, probably because it's way more open than most CoD4 maps, and the spawn system wasn't designed with that style of map in mind.

Forgot to mention this too but again chalked it up to being Ground War (respawn timers)...

...but yea you'd be in a firefight, kill someone and have his buddy spawn directly to your left to kill you, and he would spawn his buddy and so on. This was not a coincidence as more times than not I'd be completely surrounded by the enemy. It's as if they took a page from Bad Company and tied spawns to players not locations. Either way it was terrible and punished recon/stealth play.

As for the textures vs demo DL size...while that's an interesting theory I'd wager they'd spend the extra couple hundred megs to ensure people thought their game looked great, dunno.

[TheSilentDeath]

Hell man, I can't even make a new account, let alone figure out how to restore my old one from charlieoscardelta. It just locks at the avatar thing, same issue. As well, if I tell it to mail me my password, it says "oh yeah, sure, we mailed it to you" and jack and shit show up on the other side.

That means that your account was probably disablied or deleted. Activision has no record of me having a charlieoscardelta account even though I did and I have emails from charlieoscardelta to prove it.

Sad thing about this is that over at the infinity ward forums I have an account, but this account is the same account I used at charlieoscardelta since I've never used it before and it had the same password as my charlieoscardelta account.

[MalReynolds]

Mine just said "you have a Charlie oscar delta Account" do you wanna send over..

[Food Nipple]

As for the textures vs demo DL size...while that's an interesting theory I'd wager they'd spend the extra couple hundred megs to ensure people thought their game looked great, dunno.

I don't know how commonplace that is, but I do recall hearing that they did exactly that for both the Shadowrun and Halo 3 betas.

As for the game itself, I think half the shock is still going from hardcore to vanilla CoD. I forgot what it's like to snipe a guy in the chest and have him keep on running, or to have to reload in the middle of a firefight. I don't understand how anyone could run around without Stopping Power on, especially since the other perks in that slot are situational crap like Shades and Gas Mask.

[wyeast]

At least they didn't delete your old charlie oscar account, but yea the same thing is happening to me.

Sad thing is I still have the last email from Charlie Oscar Delta this May when I had forgotten my password, so I know exactly what email/pass it should be, yet nothing is there. :mad:

[OldJadedGamer]

The beta pretty much killed any idea of me getting the full game. I'm not canceling my pre-order for LBP for this.

[EvoG]

I don't know how commonplace that is, but I do recall hearing that they did exactly that for both the Shadowrun and Halo 3 betas.

As for the game itself, I think half the shock is still going from hardcore to vanilla CoD. I forgot what it's like to snipe a guy in the chest and have him keep on running, or to have to reload in the middle of a firefight. I don't understand how anyone could run around without Stopping Power on, especially since the other perks in that slot are situational crap like Shades and Gas Mask.

Well I agree it makes perfect sense (the textures), and with Halo, Bungie wouldn't need to make a big 'showing' since it's "Halo". Either way I hope this is the case because it's way noticeable...

...and yea I wanted to entertain the idea of using the Springfield no-scoped as you'd expect it to have a greater punch and still have the reasonable mobility of say my G3 (vs. having a scope which destroys your situational awareness). Either way I tapped a dude around or near his neck/chest and nothing...I got annihilated. Then I got my noob-toob for the Gewr and that was the evening for me...being called all varieties of homophobic and racist explitives for toobing. :D

[wyeast]

Dogs are good, very good, probably too good. Just like CoD4's helicopter, dog kills can count towards kill streak rewards with one significant change. Even if you die, dog kills will still count towards kill streaks on your next life. Which means it's easier than ever to get one set of dogs to unleash as soon as your previous one is up. While a coordinated team could take down a chopper before it could even fire, dogs aren't as easy to deal with thanks to their numbers.


Ugh, I hated that about the choppers. Get in a bad match, and it's a nonstop conga line of them. :mad: Hopefully they tweak that dynamic w/ the dogs, or it'll get real annoying on unbalanced matches. :(

[MalReynolds]

agree'd i just find the dogs fuckin annoying

[EvoG]

At the same time...and I love animals so believe that when I say this...but getting subsequent doggie knife kills is satisfying and you get points! (unlike with Heli-chopters in 4)

[Psykoboy2]

Oh boy. I wasn't expecting what I just played. I don't know if it's because I haven't played COD4 in such a long time, but this game's multi is winning me over just like it did in 4.

[EvoG]

Oh FYI Psyko, not that you guys were probably concerned, but it (not my 360) crashed on me...twice...so I opted for Saints 2 and hopefully you guys got Gerbs into the party. :)

[Psykoboy2]

Nah, we played another round and then that was it.

So many dogs. So many artillery strikes. But it was worth it...if only to hear Jack Bauer yell at me while capturing a flag.

[rein]

I played a tiny bit tonight. Woot level 4. It seems much faster paced than CoD4. I think it has to do with spawn points being really really close to where the action is. I spawned once in a group of enemies. I'm not sure who was more surprised, me or them. I'm sure it will get worked out since this is just a beta.

[Grifter]

I got my code and just finished downloading it.
GT: xGryfter

[Gerbs]

Oh FYI Psyko, not that you guys were probably concerned, but it (not my 360) crashed on me...twice...so I opted for Saints 2 and hopefully you guys got Gerbs into the party. :)

Yeah pretty much everyone cut and ran when I showed up. Food and Smokey899 stuck around for a bit after. My skills at vanilla COD leave something to be desired. Accuracy is not my friend.

[anakin876]

woo hoo! I got my code. Downloading now - gamertag anakin876

[grimmjow]

agree'd i just find the dogs fuckin annoying

just stab or shot.

Also, if you want ot get worked, add me :)

(g35twinturbo is my own GT, Gr1mmj0w is my new one)

[MalReynolds]

i just find the dogs distract you long enough for someone to come behind you and shot you :(

[Sl1pstream]

I don't think I'm picking this up. It feels too much like CoD4. That's usually a good thing, but I've played more than enough of it by now.

[Psykoboy2]

But Slippy....Jack Bauer needs you. He's done with Chloe, all he needs is you...to capture that damn flag and win the fucking war.

[SpacemanSpiff757]

just got my code last night and it's downloaded and ready to go. Count me in and add me too, I'd like to play!

XBL: bockalakalus

[shunoshi]

I preordered the game now and received my code late last night. The beta is downloaded and waiting for me when I get home from work tonight.

[Sl1pstream]

But Slippy....Jack Bauer needs you. He's done with Chloe, all he needs is you...to capture that damn flag and win the fucking war.

But I miss my red dot sight. :(

Also, I'm leaving to the airport tomorrow morning and I'm not taking my hard drive with me. Tonight will be the last time I spend with the beta until the 3rd of November. I'd also like to get some Age of Booty in tonight, so my time will be split up between both games. I probably won't be going to bed unless I'm really sleepy since I want to sleep on my flight tomorrow.

[Haywud]

Well, thanks to Mastergeo7 I am in.

My first impressions are as follows:
-It's like COD4 with less ammo(not necessarily a bad thing).
-I love the fact that you can join friends while they are in the party lobby now.
-It's a novel idea to make your party a different color from the rest of your team(Blue instead of Green). Although I still can't think of a good reason for this.
-I fucking hate the dogs so far. As others have said, I think their hit box is a bit off making them more annoying then necessary(although the Helicopter can be very fucking annoying).
-I really miss my red dot sight.
-Tanks are an interesting addition. I think they are balanced well enough to keep them from being dominant but the shiny newness wears off fairly quick.
-Glitchers need to be drug out into the street and monkey stomped until sterile.

It might be worth mentioning that 4 is the only COD I have played so I'm going into WW2 pretty fresh. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. That's all for now, I will be playing more later tonight.

[Drayven]

I only got a chance to play for a few minutes last night before I had to jet, hoping to get some more time in today. It's really hard for me to give initial impressions just because I hate playing non-hardcore. Right now from what I've seen I'm not digging the game all that much but I'm hoping that's just because I'm used to people dying when I shoot them.

[MalReynolds]

less ammo is good untill you run out Oo

[SPBTooL]

Woot! Just got my beta code. I'll be downloading tonight.

[cp#]

How did you get a code :(

[BHZ28]

I registered over at callofduty.com now I just sit and wait.....

[Food Nipple]

CTF in this game is broken. It's suicide to go after the flag, even if you clear out the entire team from their base, the broken spawn system could place them anywhere, including right behind your back. The safest bet is to only go for a grab when you've got dogs or artillery up, but even then it's a crapshoot. It's entirely based on luckky spawns.

[Xerxes]

CTF in this game is broken. It's suicide to go after the flag, even if you clear out the entire team from their base, the broken spawn system could place them anywhere, including right behind your back. The safest bet is to only go for a grab when you've got dogs or artillery up, but even then it's a crapshoot. It's entirely based on luckky spawns.

How many dogs do they send out. I will probably never get to call the dogs. I suck. :(

[Psykoboy2]

101 Dalmatians.....of death.

[Xerxes]

I need to play with guys. You'll protect me from that harsh world.

[wyeast]

Only because I'll be the jackass raising hell in their faces, so I'm likely to be killed by the dogs first. :o :D

[MalReynolds]

I always get killed by dogs -.-

[wyeast]

Do the dogs burn? :D

[SPBTooL]

Played for a couple hours last night. At first it wasn't fun. But once I got back in the flow of CoD I did better and hit the max of level 11.

Why can I not use the bi-pod while prone?! It can only be used on certain ledges and those are rare. They are even more rare in good locations making it mostly useless. I was really looking forward to reliving my memories of setting up defensive positions with the bi-pod enabled MG in BF:Desert Combat.

I'm not crazy about these maps. The do not seem to have a real flow to them like the CoD4 maps and feel cluttered. They maps tend to mostly favor the sub MGs.

I was expecting this to bring back the feelings from the early days of CoD4 and make me reevaluate my Gears 2 purchase. But I actually started wanting Gears 2 more. I was thinking that this would be a good game to have when I need a change from Gears2. So far the beta has just moved Left4Dead or Farcry 2 into that spot.

There were glitchers in nearly every round I played last night. The worst map seems to be the one with the tank. There was someone under the map in every round we played on it.

[TheSilentDeath]

It's a fun game, especially the part when you blow pieces off people, but the hit detection is off. I know it's not going to be perfect but I hope they fix it in the retail game.

[MalReynolds]

the dogs should burn

[Psykoboy2]

Well, there's a flamethrower in the game now, isn't there?

[pseudopseudo]

I should be getting a code tonight sometime... hopefully I'll see some of you there!

[Nerdious]

I maxed out my rank pretty quick. I really like the beta. It plays just like CoD4 with tanks! Ok maybe a little different but, I've been having a hell of a time.

Anyways, send me an invite if we get a game together!

[Drayven]

Does getting to rank 11 unlock hardcore mode?

[OldJadedGamer]

Does getting to rank 11 unlock hardcore mode?

I wish it did :(

[Xerxes]

Level 11? I'm still a 2.

[shunoshi]

I played for a few hours last night and made it to rank 10. Hit detection is off and the respawn system in completely fucked. You can't even form any sort of tactic short of backing into a corner without an enemy spawning behind you. The only thing you can really do is hold up and camp or run around like a nutcase.

Also, I need hardcore mode...badly. Having to shoot someone 6-7 times in the chest with a rifle is out of control...god forbid they're using Juggernaut.

Hopefully these issues will be resolved for release.

Things I did like:

Dogs, much better than helicopters and far less cheap.
Knife, it doesn't seem to miss like it often did in CoD4.
Maps, larger but still feel good.
Tanks, these are fairly well balanced and I'm hoping to see these in many of the maps.

[OldJadedGamer]

Things I did like:

Dogs, much better than helicopters and far less cheap.
Knife, it doesn't seem to miss like it often did in CoD4.
Maps, larger but still feel good.
Tanks, these are fairly well balanced and I'm hoping to see these in many of the maps.

Dogs are way cheaper then the Helicopter. You can call the dogs in and then just follow the dog around the level and they will show you were people are hiding at then when you do see them, they have a choice where they have to shoot either the dog or you and no matter what they pick... they are going to die.

[shunoshi]

Dogs are way cheaper then the Helicopter. You can call the dogs in and then just follow the dog around the level and they will show you were people are hiding at then when you do see them, they have a choice where they have to shoot either the dog or you and no matter what they pick... they are going to die.

Better than having no enemy near you and being killed instantly when the helicopter enters the map. At least with the dogs you have a chance. My hope is also that hardcore mode will make dogs a little easier to kill as well, 5-6 rounds from a rifle to kill a dog is lame. Although all you have to do is swing your knife and they're toast.

[Aggort]

Some of us decided until there is hardcore, we aren't going back.

[OldJadedGamer]

Better than having no enemy near you and being killed instantly when the helicopter enters the map. At least with the dogs you have a chance. My hope is also that hardcore mode will make dogs a little easier to kill as well, 5-6 rounds from a rifle to kill a dog is a bit weak as well. Although all you have to do is swing your knife and they're toast.

My friends were talking about this and you can go inside somewhere to hide out from the Helicopter and also, it's only 2 RPG's and the chopper is downed. Hell, you can even get two people pegging it with light machine guns to quickly bring it down.

There is nothing you can do to end the dogs attacking early and you can't hide from them. I much rather send the dogs after someone then a helicopter.

Some of us decided until there is hardcore, we aren't going back.

Now that I've hit rank 11 I'm not going back until it has a hardcore mode.

[MalReynolds]

im only at 7 lol

[Gerbs]

I had a dream where they patched in hardcore mode while I slept and I came here to tell everyone the good news. Then I woke up and realized it was a dream, scary to dream about COD..

[Aggort]

Now that I've hit rank 11 I'm not going back until it has a hardcore mode.

That's what happened with us. The damage and respawning to control maps is very poor and I hope it can be fixed, otherwise I will play HC and never look back.

[Gerbs]

That's what happened with us. The damage and respawning to control maps is very poor and I hope it can be fixed, otherwise I will play HC and never look back.

Won't hardcore use the same spawn system?

[Mortis]

Cap has been raised to 24 and some hardcore playlists have been added. I will try to put some time in this weekend to hit 24.

[EvoG]

Yea just read this...I'm sad...I PROMISED myself I wouldn't play again until release...

...see you guys tonight. :(

[Psykoboy2]

Were points disabled for Hardcore matches?

[EvoG]

Points disabled for who? We didn't have Hardcore until today (or did I completely misunderstand what you're asking)?

[Psykoboy2]

Ah sorry. I remember not liking Hardcore, and I think it was because you couldn't level in that mode back in CoD4....so I was asking about that version of Hardcore.

I guess I am asking for this one now too.

[Drayven]

You can level in hardcore mode just fine. Only time you don't get points is in a private match.

In CoD4 I mean

[EvoG]

^Yuppers...Psyko play with us more (as a CoG clan, not by yourself...we are fairly dominant in Hardcore (CoD4) and running reasonably effective tactics but moreso good comm, it's a helluva lot more fun than GroundWar.

[Psykoboy2]

Okay, that was it then. They all kept playing private matches back over on CoD 4.

[OldJadedGamer]

Won't hardcore use the same spawn system?

In hardcore you actually have a spawn penalty for dying. So instead of spawning back in the game in 1 second after dying you sometimes have to wait up to 15 seconds before you're allowed to play again. Something that I actually really like.

Cap has been raised to 24 and some hardcore playlists have been added. I will try to put some time in this weekend to hit 24.

I didn't do challenges on purpose so I could save them for when they raised the cap. I'll play this weekend too. Which hardcore lists have been added?

[Mortis]

I didn't do challenges on purpose so I could save them for when they raised the cap. I'll play this weekend too. Which hardcore lists have been added?

Heh I did the same thing. I do not know how many hardcore lists were added, I am at work, but search and destroy was mentioned.

[Food Nipple]

Heh I did the same thing. I do not know how many hardcore lists were added, I am at work, but search and destroy was mentioned.

I just logged on, the level cap has not been raised. There are no new playlists and no hardcore mode.

[Mortis]

I just logged on, the level cap has not been raised. There are no new playlists and no hardcore mode.

Yeah I just checked the forums, it should be updated sometime today. The post at Joystiq indicated it had been updated already. Sorry for the false alarm, it is coming though.

[Gerbs]

Did we get an update yet?

[Gerbs]

Update is live level 24 and HC DM and SnD. Go go go.

[Xerxes]

I hope yall are still on in about 3 hours. Working til midnight is the pits.

[OldJadedGamer]

This is not hardcore. I shot a guy dead in the chest with a bolt rifle and he walked away... they broke hardcore :(

[pseudopseudo]

Played it for a bit last night - and yeah. I like how it feels exactly like CoD4 (only in a different time period), but there are definitely some things I don't like about it. (Namely, the massive glitches like people shooting at you from under the map, people glitching to get on top of things they shouldn't be on top of.... and of course, THE FUCKING DOGS, which I can't seem to see until one of them kills me.)

[Gerbs]

This is not hardcore. I shot a guy dead in the chest with a bolt rifle and he walked away... they broke hardcore :(

I was getting plenty of one hit Garand kills.. I didn't try the bolt actions too much I need a fast ROF.

There seems to be no respawn delay in hardcore, once you're out you pretty much jump right back into the game. There is also a system built right into the game that automaticalls kicks you after a few tks. We couldn't figure out which tonight it kicked some players after 2 kills but we didn't lose anyone from our party until TheSilentDeath killed me with martyrdom and was kicked.

[Food Nipple]

There is also a system built right into the game that automaticalls kicks you after a few tks.

Interesting. On one hand, it'll be nice to be rid of griefers, last stand tks, and people with martyrdom on. On the other hand, I'll be pissed the first time I get booted. I always preferred Halo's system, where the person who got tk'ed can decide to forgive the player. Oh well, at least EvoG is going to have to man up and face the enemy if he wants his dogs.

[SPBTooL]

How do you revive people. I can't seem to find the right button to hold.

[OldJadedGamer]

How do you revive people. I can't seem to find the right button to hold.

You have to have the perk of course, then you go do the downed person and hold X. I can see this as being a permanent perk for me in hardcore.

[EvoG]

Yea so much for a friendly TK to begin a chain! :D

[Psykoboy2]

I'll come back in a little later. The connection issues were just a bit too much to put up with there for a bit.

[Psykoboy2]

Oh, and thanks to everyone on the team wishing me Happy Birthday in the lobby. That was pretty neat.

[pinksage]

voice command is really freaking awesome!

[wyeast]

(Namely, the massive glitches like people shooting at you from under the map, people glitching to get on top of things they shouldn't be on top of.... and of course, THE FUCKING DOGS, which I can't seem to see until one of them kills me.)

Just tell yourself that hopefully the more of this jackassery that gets exposed now, the more of it they'll try to eliminate before release. :o

[Psykoboy2]

voice command is really freaking awesome!

There's voice commands?

You thinking of EndWar maybe?

[OldJadedGamer]

Here is something I just ran into... if you team kill in Hardcore, it boots you from the game. Well, there is a loophole. If you team kill and you are the host you cannot be kicked. Little message pops up saying "the host cannot be kicked" so that person is free to team kill all they want.

[TheSilentDeath]

I was getting plenty of one hit Garand kills.. I didn't try the bolt actions too much I need a fast ROF.

There seems to be no respawn delay in hardcore, once you're out you pretty much jump right back into the game. There is also a system built right into the game that automaticalls kicks you after a few tks. We couldn't figure out which tonight it kicked some players after 2 kills but we didn't lose anyone from our party until TheSilentDeath killed me with martyrdom and was kicked.

Thing was I had died then respawned and was running towards the enemy and then poof. I get a "you have been kicked from the game" message. I try to rejoin the game only to get a message saying that I had been banned from the room.

Also funny thing about people that are glitching on Roundhouse. You can blow them up with the tank and bazooka. Also there are points at which their heads are above ground and you can shoot them too.

[Aggort]

Thing was I had died then respawned and was running towards the enemy and then poof. I get a "you have been kicked from the game" message. I try to rejoin the game only to get a message saying that I had been banned from the room.

Also funny thing about people that are glitching on Roundhouse. You can blow them up with the tank and bazooka. Also there are points at which their heads are above ground and you can shoot them too.

I don't like the banning, especially knowing us, but that is certainly going to cut down on team killing and taking your friends life who is in Last Stand, or second chance whatever you wanna call it. Hardcore absolutely saves this game though, I am looking forward to Hardcore War.

[OldJadedGamer]

I don't like the banning, especially knowing us, but that is certainly going to cut down on team killing and taking your friends life who is in Last Stand, or second chance whatever you wanna call it. Hardcore absolutely saves this game though, I am looking forward to Hardcore War.

You don't have to kill your buddy that is in last stand now since you can just walk over to him and hold X to bring him back to life.

I can see the second chance perk being a staple of Hardcore.

[Food Nipple]

After playing a few hours of hardcore, my opinion is even more mixed. It's certainly more enjoyable than plain CoD5, but there's a lot of things that it does worse than CoD4.

CoD5 is an answer to a question I never asked.

I've never said, "You know what would make CoD4 more fun? Vehicles."
I've also never said, "I wish helicopters were more powerful than they already are."

Then there's the things that CoD5 does worse than the previous game. Take team killing. While it's certainly annoying in CoD4, at least I've never been booted from a game because my teammate ran into my air strike, which is much easier to do in CoD5 thanks to the delay between when you call it in and when it hits, as well as its increased duration.

Furthermore, I think everyone agrees that the respawn system is flawed. Maybe it was this bad in CoD4, and the real problem is the lack of a respawn timer in HC, or maybe it's the openness of the map design. Whatever the cause, it's noticeably worse than it was in CoD4.

I can give you a list of things that I think CoD4 does better than 5, and a similar list of flaws in CoD4 than 5 does nothing to address, but I can't think of very many things that 5 is improving upon. With so many other games out this holiday season, I just don't think I can justify spending $60 on a game that I consider to be inferior to one I already own.

[miah]

I'm super jealous of everybody playing this game. I'm kinda bored with COD4 but want more of the same in a different wrapper.

[Gerbs]

I really can't hit anything with the MP40 at even medium range, the recoil is too much. Going back to the K34 after the M1 Garand was a mistake as well. Higher ROF on the K34 but I have never had someone take an M1 round and survive, the same cannot me said about the K34. Also I've got rifle grenades on the M1. :D

[Victorvonviolence]

I'm super jealous of everybody playing this game. I'm kinda bored with COD4 but want more of the same in a different wrapper.

No kidding, my friends list is full of people playing the beta.

I keep pressing the "join session in progress" option but alas it does nothing.

[Klunka]

You know what everyone should do? go back to playing CoD4 ... and then send me an invite

[shunoshi]

You know what everyone should do? go back to playing CoD4 ... and then send me an invite

Poor Klunka. Fileplanet is giving out keys soon if you happen to be a subscriber.

[Xerxes]

After playing a few hours of hardcore, my opinion is even more mixed. It's certainly more enjoyable than plain CoD5, but there's a lot of things that it does worse than CoD4.

CoD5 is an answer to a question I never asked.

I've never said, "You know what would make CoD4 more fun? Vehicles."
I've also never said, "I wish helicopters were more powerful than they already are."

Then there's the things that CoD5 does worse than the previous game. Take team killing. While it's certainly annoying in CoD4, at least I've never been booted from a game because my teammate ran into my air strike, which is much easier to do in CoD5 thanks to the delay between when you call it in and when it hits, as well as its increased duration.

Furthermore, I think everyone agrees that the respawn system is flawed. Maybe it was this bad in CoD4, and the real problem is the lack of a respawn timer in HC, or maybe it's the openness of the map design. Whatever the cause, it's noticeably worse than it was in CoD4.

I can give you a list of things that I think CoD4 does better than 5, and a similar list of flaws in CoD4 than 5 does nothing to address, but I can't think of very many things that 5 is improving upon. With so many other games out this holiday season, I just don't think I can justify spending $60 on a game that I consider to be inferior to one I already own.

I haven't seen the multiplayer game of the season yet.

[SPBTooL]

I haven't seen the multiplayer game of the season yet.For me that game will be Gears 2. With the new weapons, tweaked mechanics, split screen, more players, Meatflag, Gardian and especially Horde mode. This CoD5 beta has made me realize that I want a bit more than just put the pixel on the pixel core game play. But I still need it to be fast and tense. Gears 2 looks to give me that.

I know I am going to end up needing a different kind of shooter for when I need a change. CoD5 could fill that spot well. But I think that something like Farcry 2 or Left4dead may fit better.

[Food Nipple]

I haven't seen the multiplayer game of the season yet.

If it makes you feel any better, I haven't played Gears 2 either.

[violent]

Left 4 Dead would like a word with you.

[Klunka]

Poor Klunka. Fileplanet is giving out keys soon if you happen to be a subscriber.

I'm not sure the promise of a beta key could get me to subscribe to Fileplanet

[OldJadedGamer]

I haven't seen the multiplayer game of the season yet.

For me it's a tie between Gears 2 and COD5 since that is how my friends list is split. I have about an equal amount playing both... but the kicker here is that all the people I know buying COD5 are buying Gears 2 but not all the people buying Gears 2 are buying COD5.

I'm getting a feeling that Gears 2 is going to be the game where you get 15 invites to play the second you turn your 360 on this season. Thank goodness there is online co-op or I'd never touch the single player campaign.

[Psykoboy2]

I really don't like making statements like this, but I honestly think that Gears 2 & COD5 will serve their audiences well.

It just won't matter at all once Left 4 Dead hits.

[violent]

It just won't matter at all once Left 4 Dead hits.

This fucking man gets it.

[SPBTooL]

This fucking man gets it.
And I don't. I don't see why this game is getting so many people excited. I under stand the attraction of the kind of co-op play that it is going to have. (See: my excitement for Horde mode, above.) From the videos I've seen there doesn't seem to be any real story (I know we are taking MP) to it and little tactics other than attrition. It also has that same weird speed that has always bugged me about Counter Strike. I understand the boost it gets because it is coming from Valve. But i don't get the whole "OMG it's zombies!" thing. If it was aliens or robots would there be as much excitement? With that said, I'm looking forward to trying out the demo to see. And any game with split screen co-op gets a big plus from me.

[Psykoboy2]

And I don't. I don't see why this game is getting so many people excited. I under stand the attraction of the kind of co-op play that it is going to have. (See: my excitement for Horde mode, above.) From the videos I've seen there doesn't seem to be any real story (I know we are taking MP) to it and little tactics other than attrition. It also has that same weird speed that has always bugged me about Counter Strike. I understand the boost it gets because it is coming from Valve. But i don't get the whole "OMG it's zombies!" thing. If it was aliens or robots would there be as much excitement? With that said, I'm looking forward to trying out the demo to see. And any game with split screen co-op gets a big plus from me.

Find that E3 video of Bap playing the game. Then talk to the few of us here who played it at PAX.

[violent]

And I don't. I don't see why this game is getting so many people excited. I under stand the attraction of the kind of co-op play that it is going to have. (See: my excitement for Horde mode, above.) From the videos I've seen there doesn't seem to be any real story (I know we are taking MP) to it and little tactics other than attrition. It also has that same weird speed that has always bugged me about Counter Strike. I understand the boost it gets because it is coming from Valve. But i don't get the whole "OMG it's zombies!" thing. If it was aliens or robots would there be as much excitement? With that said, I'm looking forward to trying out the demo to see. And any game with split screen co-op gets a big plus from me.

Simply a matter of tastes. I fail to see why people are doing backflips for Gears 2. Only logic I know how to apply is that it's simply a matter of tastes. Just like L4D.

[OldJadedGamer]

It just won't matter at all once Left 4 Dead hits.

I can honestly say that I don't know a single person picking this up. I'll rent it to check it out but it's not on my buy list because I won't have anyone to play with.

Simply a matter of tastes. I fail to see why people are doing backflips for Gears 2. Only logic I know how to apply is that it's simply a matter of tastes. Just like L4D.

Again, Gears is one of those games that when you sign on your entire friends list is going to be playing it. For people that have a bunch of real life friends that play online, it will be impossible to play anything else without getting 400 invites everytime you sign on. It's not what you play, but who you're playing with.

[violent]

I can honestly say that I don't know a single person picking this up. I'll rent it to check it out but it's not on my buy list because I won't have anyone to play with.

You talking console release?

[OldJadedGamer]

You talking console release?

As a die hard Mac user... yes, I'm talking about the console release.

[violent]

As a die hard Mac user... yes, I'm talking about the console release.

It would make sense then that not many people are jumping on that boat. Considering the mess that was TF2 on consoles. I assure you though that the hype train is flying on the PC front.

[OldJadedGamer]

It would make sense then that not many people are jumping on that boat. Considering the mess that was TF2 on consoles. I assure you though that the hype train is flying on the PC front.

I can see that since there really isn't any other big PC title coming out this year. That makes sense then.

[violent]

Again, Gears is one of those games that when you sign on your entire friends list is going to be playing it. For people that have a bunch of real life friends that play online, it will be impossible to play anything else without getting 400 invites everytime you sign on. It's not what you play, but who you're playing with.

I'll bet you $100 dollars right now I will find more people playing L4D on PC than people playing Gears 2 on my friends list. Point being that having friends to play with should not be a determining factor due to the fact that both platforms will offer that in spades. It goes back to what I said, matter of taste.

[violent]

I can see that since there really isn't any other big PC title coming out this year. That makes sense then.

You really should do your research on PC gaming before you say things like that.

[OldJadedGamer]

You really should do your research on PC gaming before you say things like that.

To be fair, this is the "console haven" board right???

[violent]

To be fair, this is the "console haven" board right???

To be fair, isn't this thread about the CoD5 beta?

[EvoG]

To be ANAL, isn't this thread about the CoD:World at War Beta!?!

[SPBTooL]

To be ANAL, isn't this thread about the CoD:World at War Beta!?! On a console.

Find that E3 video of Bap playing the game. Then talk to the few of us here who played it at PAX. All in all the game play reminds me of the awesome co-op Serious Sam. But there is something about the animations and speed of the game that combine into some thing that I can't quite put my finger on that bugs me. Counter Strike always gave me the same feeling. It may be from just watching it in video form and will be better when playing it.

[EvoG]

I'm kinda with Tool here on this; I pre-ordered for the social aspect, and I think the character models are fucking phenomenal (professional opinion, both artistically and technically), AND I love zombies, but I'm not seeing the depth here in either story nor more importantly (for an MP game), tactically, again as SPB pointed out...

...but yea to get together with the guys should still be fun, but Gears 2 and ideally FC2 is where I'm eager to MP this season.

Oh and the M1 not having an Aperture sight for the 'assault rifle' class is epic fucking fail, thanks Treyarch.

[Psykoboy2]

On a console.

All in all the game play reminds me of the awesome co-op Serious Sam. But there is something about the animations and speed of the game that combine into some thing that I can't quite put my finger on that bugs me. Counter Strike always gave me the same feeling. It may be from just watching it in video form and will be better when playing it.

You could be right. I know we're further derailing things here. My apologies, but to finish the point, I see what you are saying. I got my first taste of wonderful mutliplayer doing LAN hook ups with the first HALO. Then UT hit Xbox Live when it first came out and I thought it was going to be the best that I could have the same experience but without all the hooking up TVs and stuff.

Then I played UT and couldn't stand that it was soooo much faster paced. Really disappointed me.