CoG Weight Loss Club

[JayVe]

*Wonders if I should post a before and after picture in here from 212 pounds down to 170*

Please do!

[OldeWolf]

Please do!

Well...problem is, the before picture was a "sexual" joke, almost NSFW. :p
It's the only before picture I have that shows the differences between both weights.

[MrBibbz]

Nah, I'm just short (5' 8"). I'm actually still slightly overweight for my height but in another month, I should be where I need to.

I'm in the same boat as you here.. I stand in at 5' 10'' ish.. and weigh in around 220ish..

[Loki]

Well...problem is, the before picture was a "sexual" joke, almost NSFW. :p
It's the only before picture I have that shows the differences between both weights.

Just put a censor bar around the naughty bits. We won't laugh.

[Loki]

6th beerless day. Beginning to think being fat wouldnt be so bad.

I've been trying to figure out a way to keep the beer but lose the weight...Its been working good so far :D

[EternalGamer]

I'm in the same boat as you here.. I stand in at 5' 10'' ish.. and weigh in around 220ish..

I was getting close to 180 this past Spring, but now I'm down to 150lbs as of this morning. My goal is 140, so I'm almost there.

[EternalGamer]

I've been trying to figure out a way to keep the beer but lose the weight...Its been working good so far :D

I need to introduce you two to a good friend of mine: he is called "bourbon on the rocks." All the inebriation, none of the calories.

[bapenguin]

As of this morning I'm down 25 pounds since May or June when I started again - and about 30 pounds on the year.

We are having a biggest loser contest at work which started in early August and I'm down about 8 pounds for that. That ends December 1st and I'd like to have lost 30 total. Gonna be tough, but I think I can do it.

End of the year goal is to see 199. Currently at 228.

It's been kinda nice because people are actually starting to notice and commenting.

[The Iron Weasel]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9075/n507630830180012587.jpg
January of 2007 - 230-40

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6534/67605178624834821211012.jpg
August 2009 -163

It feels like I've lost a person.

I have my ID from around 06/07 and it gets rejected all the time.

[JayVe]

That is a fantastic set of photos. Congrats to you!

[The Iron Weasel]

That is a fantastic set of photos. Congrats to you!

Thanks a lot man, it was hard ass work.

[JayVe]

Thanks a lot man, it was hard ass work.

Well, those are some mighty fine results from just ass work. I suppose being a hard-ass has its benefits. ;)

[The Iron Weasel]

Well, those are some mighty fine results from just ass work. I suppose being a hard-ass has its benefits. ;)

Ironically, the last 15-20 were from tree planting, which involved a lot of bending down, and walking. So I guess it was ass work.

[OldeWolf]

Before at 212 pounds:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/WeirdPoe/IMG_0153.jpg

After at 170 pounds:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/WeirdPoe/IMG00633.jpg

[bapenguin]

Great job Weasel and Wolf!

[Dark Prince]

So, I tried to do this a little while back, but failed miserably and continue to have my overweight as a big problem. I haven't checked how much I weigh recently, but I'm pretty sure I need to loose a good 15 lbs to be back to normal like I was in high school.

I swear I need to get myself off the soda. I don't drink beer unless I go out and intend too, but that's on rare occasion with friends. The biggest thing though is that soda, I swear I'm addicted to the stuff.

I also can't seem to change my diet whenever I'm out at work and go on my lunch hour. I can never seem to even think of packing my own lunch for my break.

I've been recently starting to ride the automatic bicycle at home as often as I can and go out for a bike ride with friends every once in a while. I've been seriously considering joining a gym but always got nervous about stepping up too it. I believe I'm really starting to feel my body telling me I'm way too overweight. And I'm starting to get nervous about it.

So any tips?

[OldeWolf]

Great job Weasel and Wolf!

Thank you. A small downside, went mountain biking off road, crashed, bend my bike seat on the inside of my leg...bah! Bike out of commission until I can fix it.

And Dark Prince, all the hint and suggests and advices can be found in this whole read. Start reading. ;)

It is very do-able. Very.

[Nameless]

So, I tried to do this a little while back, but failed miserably and continue to have my overweight as a big problem. I haven't checked how much I weigh recently, but I'm pretty sure I need to loose a good 15 lbs to be back to normal like I was in high school.

I swear I need to get myself off the soda. I don't drink beer unless I go out and intend too, but that's on rare occasion with friends. The biggest thing though is that soda, I swear I'm addicted to the stuff.

I also can't seem to change my diet whenever I'm out at work and go on my lunch hour. I can never seem to even think of packing my own lunch for my break.

I've been recently starting to ride the automatic bicycle at home as often as I can and go out for a bike ride with friends every once in a while. I've been seriously considering joining a gym but always got nervous about stepping up too it. I believe I'm really starting to feel my body telling me I'm way too overweight. And I'm starting to get nervous about it.

So any tips?

On the subject of gym membership, I've always been intimidated by that, myself, but I've recently found some success going to a local community gym. Not only was it MUCH cheaper ($60 for 3 months!!!), I didn't feel pressured or anything by the people working there, and the facilities are great!

Just my 2 cents. Also, if you can get (or con, like I had to do) some friends to go to the gym with you, it makes it all much easier!

[JRR1285]

As of this morning I'm down 25 pounds since May or June when I started again - and about 30 pounds on the year.

We are having a biggest loser contest at work which started in early August and I'm down about 8 pounds for that. That ends December 1st and I'd like to have lost 30 total. Gonna be tough, but I think I can do it.

End of the year goal is to see 199. Currently at 228.

It's been kinda nice because people are actually starting to notice and commenting.

About a month back I had 3 different people in one day tell me I have lost a ton of weight. It felt great, today one more person said the same. I think the biggest motivation is when people start noticing. I have not even worked out regularly in 2 months and continue to lose weight. For me it was mostly diet which was very heavy in soda and late night eating. I never ever want to go back I feel so much better. I am 6' 2" and I sit at 210, I was at over 260... I want to lose about 15 more and see how it feels.

[The Iron Weasel]

About a month back I had 3 different people in one day tell me I have lost a ton of weight. It felt great, today one more person said the same. I think the biggest motivation is when people start noticing. I have not even worked out regularly in 2 months and continue to lose weight. For me it was mostly diet which was very heavy in soda and late night eating. I never ever want to go back I feel so much better. I am 6' 2" and I sit at 210, I was at over 260... I want to lose about 15 more and see how it feels.

Be careful, I've been accused of being anorexic more then once. I feel as if its jealousy because I put in the work to get healthy.

[Xerxes]

We (the Mrs and I) used Yourself Fitness for years on the original Xbox and later on the 360. We've recently switched to Gold's Gym: Cardio Workout for WII (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/goldsgymcardioworkout) and love it.

I finally bought it, and tried it today. I slipped on my exercise a little but work has normalized more so than ever. I'm about to get back on it full time though.

After Breakfast, 2 Miles on track.
After A.M snack, 1 Hour Yourself!Fitness
After I get off work at midnight, A lesson in Gold's Gym: Cardio Workout.

Best part of this is 2 showers a day. ^_^ I love the shower.

[EternalGamer]

The showers is the part of working out I hate the most, not becaues I mind showers, but becaus I hate wasting that much water. I try to make my post-workout shower very quick.

[TurboKinny]

Can I jump in, even though I'm late to the party? And I know girls aren't supposed to tell their weight, but I don't care :p

In a month and a half, I've lost 10-15 pounds. (My summer norm was 205, when I moved I was at 212, but that was mostly waterweight for that time of the month.) Today the scale was 195, even after a weekend with lots of beer, pasta, and nachos. I've been eating really well throughout the week, with lots of veggies and not so many starches. I don't drink sodas, so I know that helps too. I figure I'm good throughout the week so I can have my 3 pints and Thai food on the weekend.

In addition to the 2 miles uphill I walk each day on my way to and from school (yes, it really is uphill both ways), I've been going to yoga 3 times a week. Last week I started jogging on an elliptical, which I'm going to do twice a week. I'm up to 2.5 miles, with 6 sets of 2-minute sprints separated by 3 minutes of walking. I'd started jogging over the summer, but messed up my ankles from the impact- the elliptical is definitely the way to go for me.

My bf noticed the first five pounds the minute he saw me after 3 weeks apart, which was awesome. So was having to tighten my belt. The best part, though, is getting on a scale and the number starting with a "1". :)

I don't really have a goal in mind- I just want to keep eating right and exercising. The weight loss is just bonus.

[Karak]

About a month back I had 3 different people in one day tell me I have lost a ton of weight. It felt great, today one more person said the same. I think the biggest motivation is when people start noticing. I have not even worked out regularly in 2 months and continue to lose weight. For me it was mostly diet which was very heavy in soda and late night eating. I never ever want to go back I feel so much better. I am 6' 2" and I sit at 210, I was at over 260... I want to lose about 15 more and see how it feels.

Watch out so you don't get "motivation ride". Basically what happens is over time people begin to see the new you as the normal you. And when the admiration dies down you can lose motivation. Something like 35-50 percent of diets fail due to the expectation of being noticed and then the drop off of that occurring.
One of my all time best pals in the world set himself up that way. You could really see him shine when people said stuff. About 4-6 months later after everyone thought of him as normal, he slowly began to put on weight. Luckily we talked about it and replaced other people's motivation with his own, which is hard work. Otherwise everyone would just wake up and lose weight. Its also the reason why health scares can work, but only until the health scare is present. That's why it has to be a lifestyle change.

Just saying.

[JRR1285]

Watch out so you don't get "motivation ride". Basically what happens is over time people begin to see the new you as the normal you. And when the admiration dies down you can lose motivation. Something like 35-50 percent of diets fail due to the expectation of being noticed and then the drop off of that occurring.
One of my all time best pals in the world set himself up that way. You could really see him shine when people said stuff. About 4-6 months later after everyone thought of him as normal, he slowly began to put on weight. Luckily we talked about it and replaced other people's motivation with his own, which is hard work. Otherwise everyone would just wake up and lose weight. Its also the reason why health scares can work, but only until the health scare is present. That's why it has to be a lifestyle change.

Just saying.

Oh I completely get what you are saying. My motivation once it really began to kick in was how much better I felt. Feeling bloated and shitty just was not doing it for me anymore. This is definitely a permanent lifestyle change. I'm still not satisfied with how I look, I am about to really start up my exercising again to speed up the results. It's so hard to start again once you have stopped...:o

[Karak]

Oh I completely get what you are saying. My motivation once it really began to kick in was how much better I felt. Feeling bloated and shitty just was not doing it for me anymore. This is definitely a permanent lifestyle change. I'm still not satisfied with how I look, I am about to really start up my exercising again to speed up the results. It's so hard to start again once you have stopped...:o

Ok awesome. Sounds like you have the right outlook. Sorry about my worry but...I have seen failure so many times from riding other peoples motivation that I get nervous.

[Purple Santa]

My bf noticed the first five pounds the minute he saw me after 3 weeks apart, which was awesome. So was having to tighten my belt. The best part, though, is getting on a scale and the number starting with a "1". :)

I don't really have a goal in mind- I just want to keep eating right and exercising. The weight loss is just bonus.

I know the great feeling of seeing that "1". When it happened for me, you would think I hit the lottery. I have been able to keep it on the "1" for a while now. This is a first for me. Not only losing, but keeping it off for a considerable amount of time (1 year and counting). I'm down almost 50 lbs now.

[bapenguin]

I know the great feeling of seeing that "1". When it happened for me, you would think I hit the lottery. I have been able to keep it on the "1" for a while now. This is a first for me. Not only losing, but keeping it off for a considerable amount of time (1 year and counting). I'm down almost 50 lbs now.

I can't wait till that day. It's been way too long.

I really hope I can pull it off by the end of the year, only 25 pounds to go.

My wife and I keep track of our weight loss on a sheet near the scale. We make up new sheets in 3 month increments and set a goal before we do it. We've done this for years and we always have little success.

Today was the first time ever that I made the goal I set 3 months ago! I hit it on the nose too!

[TurboKinny]

Today was the first time ever that I made the goal I set 3 months ago! I hit it on the nose too!Good job!!! That's awesome.

[Purple Santa]

Today was the first time ever that I made the goal I set 3 months ago! I hit it on the nose too!

I'll second what TK said: Awesome job! Carry this with you. Your success. It sounds corny but on those hard days, remembering these moments does get you through. I have battled my weight for over 20 yrs, so I understand the long battle.

[Xerxes]

Bought me a new, high tech functional scale. My other was everywhere.

Weight: 329.4

Now at the start of this year when I used a functioning scale I was at 365. About a month ago I was at 335. I haven't done anything major lately except change the way I eat. Next week though I'm about start another sprint and try and lose some of the "easy" fat. I say sprint but I actually want to keep it going. It's just easier to say bam three weeks hardcore, no changes.

[Borthcollective]

That's some good work Xerxes. I am trying to get back on track also.

[bapenguin]

Congrats Xerxes! 35 pounds is quite an achievement so far!

[Xerxes]

Thanks. I think whats helping my motivation is the desire to be back in a certain group. The 200 club. I haven't been in the 200s for years. The thought of getting back to like 290 before Christmas or even Thanksgiving is major fuel. Not to mention my lack of interest for holiday foods (like some), I can still stick to my normal eating habits.

[Borthcollective]

I got down to 315 about 12 years ago, I was working a job where I was on my feet all day. I also played paintball on the weekends. I ate like crap then too, but was at least busy all day. That should really tell me that my sedentary lifestyle is what drives my weight problems, obviously backed by my poor food choices. I need to make a difference now while I can, before something health related keeps me from doing what is smart.

[JayVe]

If you do any kind of workout with the Wii remote, such as the Golds Gym Cardio game, you may want to look into these Wii Remote dumbells (http://www.everlast.com/Wii-Weights-2-lb-Dumbells/productinfo/EVWIIDMB/).

http://www.everlast.com/images/evwiidmb_m.jpg

[Xerxes]

If you do any kind of workout with the Wii remote, such as the Golds Gym Cardio game, you may want to look into these Wii Remote dumbells (http://www.everlast.com/Wii-Weights-2-lb-Dumbells/productinfo/EVWIIDMB/).

http://www.everlast.com/images/evwiidmb_m.jpg

Is it even worth it though.

[violent]

Down to about 187 from the 218 I was weighing about 4 months ago.

[JayVe]

Is it even worth it though.
Hey. I'm not making any judgement call on it. Determine the value of your own dollars. For what it is worth, I don't see myself buying one.

[Xerxes]

Hey. I'm not making any judgement call on it. Determine the value of your own dollars. For what it is worth, I don't see myself buying one.

Haha.... I thought you had these. I was asking to see if you thought the did added something.

[JayVe]

Haha.... I thought you had these. I was asking to see if you thought the did added something.

:D Nope. I've been thinking of getting a set of wrist weights though. Honestly, with the speed and intensity of the cardio boxing, these 2lbs would make for a damn difficult workout.

[Xerxes]

:D Nope. I've been thinking of getting a set of wrist weights though. Honestly, with the speed and intensity of the cardio boxing, these 2lbs would make for a damn difficult workout.

True, but like you said, you can hop over to Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10981965)...

Wrist and Ankles. $13

Edit: I hear that's many peoples solution to EA's Wii Fit system. The resistance bands are week and they just hop over and get a set of inexpensive but stronger bands.

Double Edit: The makers of Yourself Fitness are back at it this year with Your Shape (http://www.amazon.com/Your-Shape-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B002EWD040/ref=pd_sim_vg_2). But instead of Maya you get Jenny McCarthy.

[Karak]

:D Nope. I've been thinking of getting a set of wrist weights though. Honestly, with the speed and intensity of the cardio boxing, these 2lbs would make for a damn difficult workout.

Even better is band boxing. Using bands that wrap around your shoulders and basically keep pulling the gloves to your chest. Or you can just grip than band tightly in a fist if you don't have the special gloves.
Increases punching speed dramatically, with none of the risks of weights over arching your shoulders(man that's painful)

[Xerxes]

Even better is band boxing. Using bands that wrap around your shoulders and basically keep pulling the gloves to your chest. Or you can just grip than band tightly in a fist if you don't have the special gloves.
Increases punching speed dramatically, with none of the risks of weights over arching your shoulders(man that's painful)

You talking about stuff like these? :confused:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/Xerionus/psbands100.jpg

[Karak]

You talking about stuff like these? :confused:
http://medball.com/images/kickboxing/psbands100.jpg

Strangely that is just the main page. No actual item
But on the bottom of the page
http://www.shapeupshop.com/bands_balls_tubes_bars/ideal_tube.htm

Stuff like that. Might not be a perfect match. But basically the band goes around your back like you are toweling off after a shower. And you hold the ends in your hands. And box that way.
Wicked good for punch strength and adding a little flavor to your workout.
When we do iron man workouts and that gets picked out of the hat, you can see people wince(cause it gets the f'ing breath working fast when you use the stronger ones)

[Xerxes]

Screw them, image fixed! Booyah!

[Karak]

Screw them, image fixed! Booyah!

Yes.
Though... I am not sure I like the pads for the back. That stuff always hurts more than it helps. A good teeshirt is usually enough if you start light.
Wait shit...those people are...using them wrong. Well maybe not but no that's not right.
The ones we have go under the arm and the tube runs along the inside, not the outside of your arm.
That shit looks painful that they are doing.

[Xerxes]

Yes.
Though... I am not sure I like the pads for the back. That stuff always hurts more than it helps. A good teeshirt is usually enough if you start light.
Wait shit...those people are...using them wrong. Well maybe not but no that's not right.
The ones we have go under the arm and the tube runs along the inside, not the outside of your arm.
That shit looks painful that they are doing.

Yeah there look like it would hurt the elbow more than help. Sounds like a run of the mill resistance cable. I might just get one. Can't hurt. What level resistance do you use?

[Karak]

Yeah there look like it would hurt the elbow more than help. Sounds like a run of the mill resistance cable. I might just get one. Can't hurt. What level resistance do you use?

Highest you can get, almost bycicle tube. I have been doing it for more than 20 years though. Start light...seriously. Joint damage CAN happen if you went too hard. That's why you don't want the weights in the gloves. The upper shoulders can get over rotated so fucking easy. And man, my left shoulder still hurts after having it happen a couple times. And that was...4 years ago now. You don't want weights at the end of limbs that you are either holding out way from your core, or throwing away from you at high speed(kicks-punches)
Also ya, don't get those. Get ones that you can run under your arms. They are pretty comfortable and only require a small change in the way you would normally throw certain punches.
But man, within maybe 2-3 weeks of a couple workouts a week you notice a HUGE difference. Continue to do some kind of pulling excercice though. You need to keep that muscle(triceps) strong too.

[Xerxes]

Highest you can get, almost bycicle tube. I have been doing it for more than 20 years though. Start light...seriously. Joint damage CAN happen if you went too hard. That's why you don't want the weights in the gloves. The upper shoulders can get over rotated so fucking easy. And man, my left shoulder still hurts after having it happen a couple times. And that was...4 years ago now. You don't want weights at the end of limbs that you are either holding out way from your core, or throwing away from you at high speed(kicks-punches)
Also ya, don't get those. Get ones that you can run under your arms. They are pretty comfortable and only require a small change in the way you would normally throw certain punches.
But man, within maybe 2-3 weeks of a couple workouts a week you notice a HUGE difference. Continue to do some kind of pulling excercice though. You need to keep that muscle(triceps) strong too.

I was just looking for something to complement Gold's Gym Shape Boxing. It's fine as it is, but if it's not going to kill me I want to get the most from it. Adding some 2lbs wrist weights or either some resistance tubes fit that category.

[Karak]

I was just looking for something to complement Gold's Gym Shape Boxing. It's fine as it is, but if it's not going to kill me I want to get the most from it. Adding some 2lbs wrist weights or either some resistance tubes fit that category.

There you go. Go for it. Every little bit helps.
Effort x Time = awesome
Even the smallest change equals great things over a long period of time.

[Xerxes]

There you go. Go for it. Every little bit helps.
Effort x Time = awesome
Even the smallest change equals great things over a long period of time.

I'm just please I found a use for the Wii. har har har!

[EternalGamer]

I use those resistance bands. I found a really good pair of 'medium resistance" ones at target for around $10, but I had to cut off the rubble handles (they have regular strap handles underneath the thick rubber) so I could hold them in my hand along with the remotes. But they worked great after that very minor modification. I use them for both Punch Out and EA Active. Far better than the weaksauce band that comes with EA Active.

[JayVe]

But basically the band goes around your back like you are toweling off after a shower. And you hold the ends in your hands. And box that way.

This sounds like a great idea!

[PathMaster]

Any ideas for fall/winter exercises for some of us in snow areas?

[TurboKinny]

Any ideas for fall/winter exercises for some of us in snow areas?Find a gym? ;)

Skiing is really big around here, and is great exercise. If you have problems with monotony, that'd be a great way to change it up.

[Karak]

This sounds like a great idea!

Ya you should try it. Coming from a martial arts background I can say that NOTHING has been as effective as this little trick for me. It didn't impact my speed and increased punching strength.
Again always work on resistance for pulling back your hands as well. Pull ups, anything triceps and shoulder work.

[Karak]

Any ideas for fall/winter exercises for some of us in snow areas?

Hmm. I don't change anything for winter. Still run, and work out the same.
What in particular are you thinking of working on?

[Krispy]

Okay, who wants to join a weight gain club with me? I stepped on a scale for fun the other day and I found out I weigh 120 lbs! I'm 5'11".

And no, I'm not anorexic or bulimic or have a life sucking parasite. This shit is genetic or something.

[Xerxes]

I bought some tri-bands. And the strong cable is like for the hulk. The medium is almost as strong. The light is just right. ~_~ I'm so out of shape. lol

[Serapth]

Okay, who wants to join a weight gain club with me? I stepped on a scale for fun the other day and I found out I weigh 120 lbs! I'm 5'11".

And no, I'm not anorexic or bulimic or have a life sucking parasite. This shit is genetic or something.

I had trouble gaining weight, not quite your level, but I was about 155lbs and 6'2 for quite a while.

Then three things happened.

1- I quit smoking, bang, 180lbs!
1b- I started and quit smoking again, lost 20lb and then gained 30, bang 190lbs!
2- I had a kid, bang 15 lbs, 205
3- I turned 30+, 220lbs.


I am sitting around 210-215 right now and aim to get to about 200, but let me tell you, until I quit smoking and turned 30, I ate like SHIT and wouldn't gain a pound. I could eat a large pizza, a big 300g bag of chips and a case of beer in a Thursday afternoon and wouldn't think twice about gaining weight.

I think my current metabolism is my livers way of telling me to fuck off.

[PathMaster]

Skiing idea from TurboKinny and that I quite possibly good awaken to a few inches of snow in the morning reminded me that I have some snowshoes. Need a little more snow and quite possibly no hunting season to be going on, but that should help.

What does everyone think of Nutrisystem coming to Walmart?

[Karak]

I bought some tri-bands. And the strong cable is like for the hulk. The medium is almost as strong. The light is just right. ~_~ I'm so out of shape. lol

Good man. Trust me, in months you will look at the easy ones and scoff as you power through everything with the strong cables. Its wicked awesome.

[JayVe]

So, based on suggestions here, I used a resistance band over my shoulders while playing Gold's Gym Cardio Workout.

Ow.

Hurts so good

[Karak]

So, based on suggestions here, I used a resistance band over my shoulders while playing Gold's Gym Cardio Workout.

Ow.

Hurts so good

You might also want to try it going under your arms, if you have it going over the sides of your shoulders. It can make it more comfortable.

[Xerxes]

So, based on suggestions here, I used a resistance band over my shoulders while playing Gold's Gym Cardio Workout.

Ow.

Hurts so good

I would go with the band behind the arms and running on the inside of your arms. The way you described saw that latex pop me on the neck.

Hurt so bad. :o

[Xerxes]

I just did a session of Gold's Gym Cardio Workout today with the resistance band. I was about ready to drop them. They did add a lot to the work out.

One thing though, for some reason the game seems a little more inaccurate with the handles for the bands in my hand. I don't think that took away from my work out though so doesn't matter. I threw the punch whether or not the wii understood, to it counts.

[Karak]

I just did a session of Gold's Gym Cardio Workout today with the resistance band. I was about ready to drop them. They did add a lot to the work out.

One thing though, for some reason the game seems a little more inaccurate with the handles for the bands in my hand. I don't think that took away from my work out though so doesn't matter. I threw the punch whether or not the wii understood, to it counts.

Ya sometimes that can happen with the Wii. But for us that stuff happens even without the bands. I am not sure why.
Good for you with the bands man. Its a great way to push you to another level.

[Karak]

So, based on suggestions here, I used a resistance band over my shoulders while playing Gold's Gym Cardio Workout.

Ow.

Hurts so good

Keep the updates going? How is it working?
Xerx...what about you?

[Xerxes]

I've been a fat bum lately. That first day of doing it with the bands were ok, but the next day it felt like something was about to erupt from my back. I mean I could feel every muscle on the human back I think. I've started back on it this week. I just been scatter brained.

[Purple Santa]

Okay, who wants to join a weight gain club with me? I stepped on a scale for fun the other day and I found out I weigh 120 lbs! I'm 5'11".

And no, I'm not anorexic or bulimic or have a life sucking parasite. This shit is genetic or something.

May I borrow that parasite? It doesn't involve running over a gypsy and eating pie does it? ;)

My own quirky update: I have some old comic book t-shirts that I haven't worn because...well I've been to fat to wear them. I kept them around just in case I thought I ever lose enough to be able to fit in them. I last fit in them i'd say...15 yrs ago? I wasn't thin then either but a hell of a lot slimmer than I grew to be. I tried them on today and holy shit they fit! I was a size 40 now down to a size 34. Aiming for 30 or 31 size.

[Borthcollective]

See here's where "Thinner"(the movie) doesn't work. Wouldn't we all just keep a circle of pies going to make ourselves thin?

[OldeWolf]

All my shirts that are XL are all too damn baggy for me so I was forced to go buy size L shirts since I havent wore those size for um...a good 5+ years. My pant size went down from size 46 to size 42 and might be there to stay since my stomach muscles waist size is seemingly size 42.

I is happy.

[H.Bogard]

I'm stuck at 168 now. I need to buy some size S T's too.

[Jackel]

Finally signed up for the gym again. It has been nearly 8 months ugh. So my starting point is 235 lbs. I want to drop that to about 220 (but convert the fat to muscle weight).

Hopefully the imminent game releases of November don't throw a kink in my plan.

The best part is that the gym has day care, so my kid gets a chance to play w/ other kids.

[Xerxes]

Finally signed up for the gym again. It has been nearly 8 months ugh. So my starting point is 235 lbs. I want to drop that to about 220 (but convert the fat to muscle weight).

Hopefully the imminent game releases of November don't throw a kink in my plan.

The best part is that the gym has day care, so my kid gets a chance to play w/ other kids.
Playing with other kids is over rated....

/said the fat man

[Psykoboy2]

Had to renew my DL the other day. Amazing how repulsive you can get in just 4 years time but leave it to a DL photo to spark the drive of losing weight.

I downloaded the "Lose It! (http://www.apptism.com/apps/lose-it)" app for my iPhone and have been keeping track of my calorie intake.

And so the journey begins. Again.

[Bone]

Go Scott!

After losing 20 pounds due to stress, I got back on track and started managing things again (started eating, stopped smoking) and now am back to a middle ground of 192. At 5' 10" and (would-be) slim build, I should be around 170 so I need to get rid of the gut and add muscle everywhere.

I feel much better with a little natural fat- the stress-induced weight loss didn't look good on me. I just want to be healthy, and quitting smoking was a huge move towards that goal. I've been cooking more food, buying only what I need for the next couple of days.

[wyeast]

Finally signed up for the gym again. It has been nearly 8 months ugh. So my starting point is 235 lbs. I want to drop that to about 220 (but convert the fat to muscle weight).

Hopefully the imminent game releases of November don't throw a kink in my plan.

The best part is that the gym has day care, so my kid gets a chance to play w/ other kids.

Dude, wtf are you talking about? You were in better shape than any of us at PAX! :p

Especially considering I weigh the same, yet I only come up to mid calf on you. :D

Kids club at the gym is great. Be careful tho'. Some kids don't ever want to leave. :eek: Mine right now are hooked on the 360 they have in there w/ Lego Star Wars. :)

[TurboKinny]

I haven't gone running in almost 2 weeks now. :( Last week I was just too busy, and now I've got a cold and can barely breathe as it is. I know it's going to be hard to go back, but it's worth it.

[Serapth]

I feel much better with a little natural fat- the stress-induced weight loss didn't look good on me. I just want to be healthy, and quitting smoking was a huge move towards that goal. I've been cooking more food, buying only what I need for the next couple of days.

Cooking more is a huge factor in healthy living. I know I feel best when I am eating well. Often we start eating well, then one of us gets sick and we go back to eating crap.

When I quit smoking, the last time ( 3 years now ) I felt like absolute shit after, still sorta do, but I have noticed my sense of smell is much improved. That said, the reason I am in a weightloss thread is because I quit smoking :) Good luck on the not gaining weight and congrats on quiting.

[Xerxes]

BACK INTO ACTION!
/morphs

So yeah I finally started get back into the whole groove. Food Log, Packed lunch+snacks every day, and working out. I'm behind but I'm still hoping to pull to 299 by 12-01. The realistic should be 01-01, but I'm a dreamer. :)

[Karak]

BACK INTO ACTION!
/morphs

So yeah I finally started get back into the whole groove. Food Log, Packed lunch+snacks every day, and working out. I'm behind but I'm still hoping to pull to 299 by 12-01. The realistic should be 01-01, but I'm a dreamer. :)

Good for you sir. Keep it up through the winter.
The hard months.
Continue to be a man of action and your body will make it so.

[Xerxes]

Good for you sir. Keep it up through the winter.
The hard months.
Continue to be a man of action and your body will make it so.

Winter is the ease months really. I normally grab a few slices of meat and call myself down. Most holiday foods really don't do it for me. Perk of being picky I suppose. And I have been good all year staying clear of too much cake and pie. I should be fine. :D

[Karak]

Winter is the ease months really. I normally grab a few slices of meat and call myself down. Most holiday foods really don't do it for me. Perk of being picky I suppose. And I have been good all year staying clear of too much cake and pie. I should be fine. :D

I also mean the exercise. Winter stops alot of people.

Good job big man. Good job.

[Xerxes]

I also mean the exercise. Winter stops alot of people.

Good job big man. Good job.

Hopefully since 2 of my main tools are game related I'll be ok. I still use Yourself Fitness on Xbox for a full Cardio hit, and Gold Gym on Wii. I think Gold's Gym is going to be a big help with my back muscles.

The Wii has several new Yourself Fitness competitors out there. I'm almost tempted but it's like YF isn't broken, so why fix it.

[Purple Santa]

I also mean the exercise. Winter stops alot of people.

So true. Bundling up for the gym then walking to the car having to remove snow...real motivating :)

I'm still doing doing the 5 days at the gym, losing still...but the holidays are coming. Maybe i'll volunteer at some soup kitchens to avoid being at home :D

[Karak]

Weird. My personal bests were lost.

I was writing that I just benched 410 and leg extended 295. Both bests for me

[Borthcollective]

410 holy crap trunk arms.

[Karak]

410 holy crap trunk arms.

Hahaha.
Thank you. I now want to change my username to that:)

[Karak]

So true. Bundling up for the gym then walking to the car having to remove snow...real motivating :)

I'm still doing doing the 5 days at the gym, losing still...but the holidays are coming. Maybe i'll volunteer at some soup kitchens to avoid being at home :D

Last night while running right before I giant storm I was reminded how cold can impact a workout. It can really keep people inside. I was the only one running when normally the area would be filled.
I love winter running but its hard to get accostomed to.

[bapenguin]

Coming down to the wire in the office "Biggest Loser Contest"

Looks like I'm in second place at about 10% while the guy ahead of me is at 11.5%.

Gonna go hardcore the next 2 weeks (it ends December 1st). I was 217 this morning, thinking if I get to 212 by Dec 1 I have a chance - that puts me around 12.5%

Just been eating a lot of veggies and chips and salsa. :) Also running with the dog every night, only like 20 minutes and a lot of stop and go.

I should also mention the pot is $600 to the winner.

[Karak]

Coming down to the wire in the office "Biggest Loser Contest"

Looks like I'm in second place at about 10% while the guy ahead of me is at 11.5%.

Gonna go hardcore the next 2 weeks (it ends December 1st). I was 217 this morning, thinking if I get to 212 by Dec 1 I have a chance - that puts me around 12.5%

Just been eating a lot of veggies and chips and salsa. :) Also running with the dog every night, only like 20 minutes and a lot of stop and go.

I should also mention the pot is $600 to the winner.

Is the stop and go running on purpose? If it is not, have you tried the military "hump" style of running? Basically a slow almost in place jog. When I first started about 18 years ago that was the big breakthrough I needed.

I could JOG for maybe a mile, I could "hump" for maybe 4. This increased everything, my burned calories, my bodies ability to adjust, and gave me a mental increase in my courage to continue. It also broke free all the shit in my lungs and helped me learn to expand them correctly over a slow jog/hump. Cramps went away, and mentally it was such a boon.
Then slowly as your body gets accustomed to it you can start jogging more and more.

[bapenguin]

Is the stop and go running on purpose? If it is not, have you tried the military "hump" style of running? Basically a slow almost in place jog. When I first started about 18 years ago that was the big breakthrough I needed.

I could JOG for maybe a mile, I could "hump" for maybe 4. This increased everything, my burned calories, my bodies ability to adjust, and gave me a mental increase in my courage to continue. It also broke free all the shit in my lungs and helped me learn to expand them correctly over a slow jog/hump. Cramps went away, and mentally it was such a boon.
Then slowly as your body gets accustomed to it you can start jogging more and more.

It's on purpose because the dog needs to stop and go to the bathroom. :)

The other problem is the dog doesn't know the meaning of jog, so it's basically wind sprints for me. If I go too slow, he gets pissed, turns around grabs the leash in his mouth and tries to pull me.

[Karak]

It's on purpose because the dog needs to stop and go to the bathroom. :)

The other problem is the dog doesn't know the meaning of jog, so it's basically wind sprints for me. If I go too slow, he gets pissed, turns around grabs the leash in his mouth and tries to pull me.

Hahaha. I feel ya.
I have a Bulldog/rott/Chihuahua(SIC)
And a Great Dane/Bulldog...they DO NOT run at the same speed hahahaha

[Karak]

Yes. 415 Bench.
Woo woo

[Xerxes]

I going to blame the cold for this abysmal showing this week. Ugh... Mister workout games my ass. I don't have a cold but something got in my throat. Even breathing is a fucking choir. I've been laying down like a baby. And some idiot just suggested ice cream. That shit sounds like a brilliant idea. I know its not though. >_<

[Karak]

I going to blame the cold for this abysmal showing this week. Ugh... Mister workout games my ass. I don't have a cold but something got in my throat. Even breathing is a fucking choir. I've been laying down like a baby. And some idiot just suggested ice cream. That shit sounds like a brilliant idea. I know its not though. >_<

Your gonna hate this but...lemon juice works wonders. Sip it don't drink a ton. DESTROYS a sore throat.
Again...some people think its nasty.

[Xerxes]

Your gonna hate this but...lemon juice works wonders. Sip it don't drink a ton. DESTROYS a sore throat.
Again...some people think its nasty.

Can I have ice cream afterward? :o

[Karak]

Nah.
Increases phlegm. Gotta stay away from milk and shit.

[Karak]

Today was a good day for me.

7 minute indian squat(and now I can barely walk)
13 4 minute full speed boxing rounds *pumps fist*

Good times.

[Xerxes]

Nah.
Increases phlegm. Gotta stay away from milk and shit.

:(
It makes since. Probably why i felt a worse after my bowl of cereal this money. Been trying to hack up crap all day.

[Karak]

:(
It makes since. Probably why i felt a worse after my bowl of cereal this money. Been trying to hack up crap all day.

That is correct. Basically you have to cut that kind of thing out. Warm water is good but again lemon juice or sometimes lime. You will be able to cough out everything within maybe 10-15 minutes.

I also find that if I can't get it out I induce a sneeze(Far harder air release than any cough) and blow all the air out my mouth, none through the nose.

It will work. If a bit nasty.

[Xerxes]

That is correct. Basically you have to cut that kind of thing out. Warm water is good but again lemon juice or sometimes lime. You will be able to cough out everything within maybe 10-15 minutes.

I also find that if I can't get it out I induce a sneeze(Far harder air release than any cough) and blow all the air out my mouth, none through the nose.

It will work. If a bit nasty.

I was thinking about taking a cap of vinegar the way I sometimes do but I thought it would claw my throat out. :eek:

[Karak]

I was thinking about taking a cap of vinegar the way I sometimes do but I thought it would claw my throat out. :eek:

I have found vinegar to work but in a different way than lemon juice. Vinegar...makes me cough. Ha. So it works somewhat. I am not sure what its working on the mucus is but I would assume its somewhat like lemonjuice. I have found that vinegar gives me a stomach ache at the amounts needed to work, so I switched on the advice of a sensei and never looked back.

[Fenced]

Figured I'd chime in here. Going for more of a weight gain, though it'd be nice to lose that persistent fat over my lower abs.

I usually just stick with variations of pushups, pullups, squats, and crunches. Plus running whenever my shins can take it. Shooting for 100 pushups and 20 pullups at the moment. Stuck at 60 and 14, respectively.

I have no weights and despise the gym, so I have no idea what I can bench or anything.

[Karak]

Figured I'd chime in here. Going for more of a weight gain, though it'd be nice to lose that persistent fat over my lower abs.

I usually just stick with variations of pushups, pullups, squats, and crunches. Plus running whenever my shins can take it. Shooting for 100 pushups and 20 pullups at the moment. Stuck at 60 and 14, respectively.

I have no weights and despise the gym, so I have no idea what I can bench or anything.
60, anf 14 is nothing to scoff at, thats excellent. Many many people can do less than 20 pushups and 1-2 pullups. Good job.

[Bone]

Your gonna hate this but...lemon juice works wonders. Sip it don't drink a ton. DESTROYS a sore throat.
Again...some people think its nasty.My singer mixes some water, lemon juice, and a few globs of honey. I tried it once when I was recording my own song and it was like having a whole new throat.

[Xerxes]

Omg Karak, I mean one more dose and I know I'll be world better. I can't believe this shit use to last weeks but the night I try lemon juice, bam, all better. Last night it got worse though and I was cursing your homemade remedy. I woke up hacking globs of crap. ^_^

No excuse for not working out now.

[Karak]

Omg Karak, I mean one more dose and I know I'll be world better. I can't believe this shit use to last weeks but the night I try lemon juice, bam, all better. Last night it got worse though and I was cursing your homemade remedy. I woke up hacking globs of crap. ^_^

No excuse for not working out now.

Yep. It breaks it up pretty quick which can actually be scary because if you are working out or breathing hard you can feel like you will choke. But for me, its far better than any medication or other home remedy I have tried.

[TurboKinny]

My singer mixes some water, lemon juice, and a few globs of honey. I tried it once when I was recording my own song and it was like having a whole new throat.This is what I do- it's like hot tea without the tea part :)

[Karak]

This is what I do- it's like hot tea without the tea part :)

tea with lemon juice? Ug...
Well then again I am not that much of a tea fan to begin with

[Xerxes]

tea with lemon juice? Ug...
Well then again I am not that much of a tea fan to begin with

Me neither.I do really love my gravely throat though. And since I have none of the pain I can enjoy it more. GROWL! :D

[Karak]

Me neither.I do really love my gravely throat though. And since I have none of the pain I can enjoy it more. GROWL! :D

Last time I had a cold, I used lemon juice to clear it and stop the pain than sang for one of my music tracks. Totally awesome. Turned into some kind of Rob Zombie techno track that promptly landed me a cool 500 bucks.

Go to it Rap Xerxes...go to it.

[Jackel]

For sore throats, I swear by Warm water w/ Salt.

[TurboKinny]

tea with lemon juice? Ug...
Well then again I am not that much of a tea fan to begin withMe neither. That's why I just do hot water, lemon juice, and honey :p

(actually I say that, but I've been on a black tea + splenda + splash of milk kick lately. mmm.)

[PathMaster]

I really need to start cracking down on eating healthy. Got into a bad routine at work and should refocus.

[Camel]

For those of you who use resistance bands on a regular basis, what should I be looking for? I have a pair of bands already, but they are way too long to put around my back like a towel and used for boxing or anything like that.

[cppcrusader]

Does anyone have the program guide for P90, not P90X that they might be able to lend me? My aunt lent me her P90 dvds but she couldn't find the other materials that go with them. I've been wanting to try this program for a while now, but I need to find out what the schedule of the workouts is before I can get started.

[cppcrusader]

After a bit of googling I was able to find the workout schedule for P90. I started it yesterday and I made it through the majority of the workout. Some of the exercises I had to stop short on, mostly the 7-7-7 push ups, chair dips and some of the weight ones in the final circuit.

Starting weight: 270 lbs

End Goal: Drop 90 lbs

Hopefully I can keep it up and stick with this. I'm not expecting this workout to magically get me all the way to my goal, but it should give me a good structure to work in to get started down that path. Basically those are the 90 lbs I gained from my Full Sail days of sitting on my ass and keeping the worst diet imaginable, which out of habit I continued to maintain well after graduating.

[Purple Santa]

When I last chimed in I was worried about the first holiday of the season Thanksgiving. I didn't eat to badly...amazing I didn't overstuff myself as I have. I even made it to the gym on Thanksgiving!

I set a goal of trying on a pair of size 34 jeans the first weekend in Dec. I believe I will fit in them. I'm down from a size 38/40 from August '08.

[Karak]

After a bit of googling I was able to find the workout schedule for P90. I started it yesterday and I made it through the majority of the workout. Some of the exercises I had to stop short on, mostly the 7-7-7 push ups, chair dips and some of the weight ones in the final circuit.

Starting weight: 270 lbs

End Goal: Drop 90 lbs

Hopefully I can keep it up and stick with this. I'm not expecting this workout to magically get me all the way to my goal, but it should give me a good structure to work in to get started down that path. Basically those are the 90 lbs I gained from my Full Sail days of sitting on my ass and keeping the worst diet imaginable, which out of habit I continued to maintain well after graduating.
P90 is a good workout. I think its worthy of mention here as one of the top 5-10 personal workouts you can find.

[bapenguin]

We had our weigh in at work today. Came in at 218 with clothes and shoes on, which is a 25 pound drop from the 242 I weighed in at on August 9th.

All said it's 10% lost, though the winner had 14% lost. Still, I'm happy with the results.

I've got three months till my 30th birthday, and currently weigh (nekkid) 214. I'm shooting for 199 by then, which is just above the weight I graduated high school.

[Karak]

We had our weigh in at work today. Came in at 218 with clothes and shoes on, which is a 25 pound drop from the 242 I weighed in at on August 9th.

All said it's 10% lost, though the winner had 14% lost. Still, I'm happy with the results.

I've got three months till my 30th birthday, and currently weigh (nekkid) 214. I'm shooting for 199 by then, which is just above the weight I graduated high school.

My good sir.
Congrats

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1599/claply7.gif

[Xerxes]

I've crashed and burned. bleh. I'll start the year as I ended damn near.

[Jackel]

We had our weigh in at work today. Came in at 218 with clothes and shoes on, which is a 25 pound drop from the 242 I weighed in at on August 9th.

All said it's 10% lost, though the winner had 14% lost. Still, I'm happy with the results.

I've got three months till my 30th birthday, and currently weigh (nekkid) 214. I'm shooting for 199 by then, which is just above the weight I graduated high school.

Congrats man!

[Karak]

I've crashed and burned. bleh. I'll start the year as I ended damn near.

What the shit...what?
I thought you were doing great?

[Purple Santa]

We had our weigh in at work today. Came in at 218 with clothes and shoes on, which is a 25 pound drop from the 242 I weighed in at on August 9th.

All said it's 10% lost, though the winner had 14% lost. Still, I'm happy with the results.

I've got three months till my 30th birthday, and currently weigh (nekkid) 214. I'm shooting for 199 by then, which is just above the weight I graduated high school.

Hey congrats! 25lbs is a nice weight drop.

[Xerxes]

What the shit...what?
I thought you were doing great?

I started up, and then I just shutoff. It's like I can up to motivated but then I just slump back into bed. :(

It's like a Cymbalta commercial.

[Camel]

For those of you who use resistance bands on a regular basis, what should I be looking for? I have a pair of bands already, but they are way too long to put around my back like a towel and used for boxing or anything like that.
Karak! Xerxes! I need you!

[Xerxes]

Karak! Xerxes! I need you!

Looking up... I think I recommended a tri-band set from Target or Walmart. It's like the generic set that has a strong, mid, and light band. The strong was mad for the hulk and has no ability of reaching around the back.

The Light is just right for me. My work out was serious with those. I would have hoped with a lot of work I'd be using the mids to really bust some balls. But I'm not going anywhere soon.

The only reason I didn't by the light weight cables first is because I hear bad things about the weak ass band found in the EA Fitness box. :confused:

They should be to long, just the generic size. They all look short and will always be stretched once you put them behind your back. Make sure you put them up under and on the inside of your arms. A resistance band slap HURTS!

[Karak]

Karak! Xerxes! I need you!

Shit sorry. Read Xerxes post its basically all that we discussed in one nice package. I you will not regret it.

[Karak]

I started up, and then I just shutoff. It's like I can up to motivated but then I just slump back into bed. :(

It's like a Cymbalta commercial.
Fuck it dude. Just do a line of crank or some DNP hahahaha.

That's too bad.
What are you going to do?

[Xerxes]

Fuck it dude. Just do a line of crank or some DNP hahahaha.

That's too bad.
What are you going to do?

I'm wondering if I just need to take a a vacation. Maybe I need to party harder. Something to help get the "fuck it" out of my system. Never been skilled and jump starting myself. I chill so hard sometimes.

[Karak]

I'm wondering if I just need to take a a vacation. Maybe I need to party harder. Something to help get the "fuck it" out of my system. Never been skilled and jump starting myself. I chill so hard sometimes.

Ah gotcha.
Honest truth.
If you live alone take a seminaked pic of yourself(leave your boxers on for gods sake) and place it near either the fridge or near your computers.

This can help make you think about this. But all things wear out. So have a list of triggers that you can employ such as.

1 pic of you in bad shape
2 pic of you eating(jesus we are all nasty looking when we eat)...well not Jenna Haze but I digress.
3 A post you made here printed out where you talk about being unhappy about being overweight.

You need to turn the vocal/writing triggers(what you have now) to action triggers(what you want).

If you need an example think of the Rocky soundtrack. Gets you pumped? Makes you feel like the underdog who just beat the champ? If so, thats a trigger that is sound based, moved directly to an action based one. I have seen people literally dripping sweat after listening to montage songs due to memories of the movie they are in. It's the same thing.
And hell do that to if it works for you.

[Camel]

Alright, so I guess I really need something more like this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-Ultra-Toner-Medium-Resistance/dp/B0000AV8JZ/ref=pd_sim_sg_1) as opposed to what I normally think of when I think "resistance band," which is this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-ES501R-Resistance-Attachment-Exercise/dp/B0000AJ050/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1259805362&sr=1-1).

[Karak]

I'm wondering if I just need to take a a vacation. Maybe I need to party harder. Something to help get the "fuck it" out of my system. Never been skilled and jump starting myself. I chill so hard sometimes.

Ok one more piece of advice...and it isn't pretty so don't read it if you don't want to.

Did you ever have a really good day on your diet? You woke up, you ate right, you went home, you worked out, you went to bed comfortable with a semi empty stomach?

Why the fuck can't you repeat that the next day?

You know why? Because people spread days to weeks, weeks to months, and months to years. IT IS DAY TO DAY.
Day to day.
Day to day.

If you do it right Monday, what in the sam hell is stopping you from doing it Tuesday..nothing. Wednesday? Nothing. Thursday...the memory that you just did it 3 days before right?
Exactly. People tend to think of the road they traveled as one mountain to another, but its the steps that take you up it. They look back at some far off mountain and miss their own daily footsteps and say...hey look how far I came! I am going to have cheesecake.
Fuckit.
It is NO harder on Friday than it is on Tuesday...no harder. Its a lie we tell ourselves.

Anyway that's it.

[Karak]

Alright, so I guess I really need something more like this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-Ultra-Toner-Medium-Resistance/dp/B0000AV8JZ/ref=pd_sim_sg_1) as opposed to what I normally think of when I think "resistance band," which is this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-ES501R-Resistance-Attachment-Exercise/dp/B0000AJ050/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1259805362&sr=1-1).

Both could technically be used but the first looks better.

[Xerxes]

I use something like this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-ES501R-Resistance-Attachment-Exercise/dp/B0000AJ050/ref=pd_sim_sg_5). Except I use the girly light weight. :p

Edit: Karak you right. I just need to snap out of it. Naked flab pictures might do the trick.

[Camel]

Both could technically be used but the first looks better.
Eh, the second set the bands are a little too long for the behind the back method. Maybe I just have stumpy arms, but I really have to clamp down on the bands under my arms to feel any resistance. I'll try out the first set and report back!

EDIT: Damn Xerxes, if that is what you are using maybe I am just doing something wrong. Either way, I'll try out the first set of bands too and see if I notice any difference.

[Xerxes]

Eh, the second set the bands are a little too long for the behind the back method. Maybe I just have stumpy arms, but I really have to clamp down on the bands under my arms to feel any resistance. I'll try out the first set and report back!

EDIT: Damn Xerxes, if that is what you are using maybe I am just doing something wrong. Either way, I'll try out the first set of bands too and see if I notice any difference.

This is possible. My wingspan is like 72+. :D

[Karak]

I use something like this (http://www.amazon.com/SPRI-ES501R-Resistance-Attachment-Exercise/dp/B0000AJ050/ref=pd_sim_sg_5). Except I use the girly light weight. :p

Edit: Karak you right. I just need to snap out of it. Naked flab pictures might do the trick.

And read my other post about day by day. In all senses it is like food alcoholism.

[Xerxes]

And read my other post about day by day. In all senses it is like food alcoholism.

I read it. I haven't made my lunch in nearly 3 weeks.

[Karak]

I read it. I haven't made my lunch in nearly 3 weeks.

*shakes head*
Ouch.
I have been there.

[Purple Santa]

Ok one more piece of advice...and it isn't pretty so don't read it if you don't want to.

Did you ever have a really good day on your diet? You woke up, you ate right, you went home, you worked out, you went to bed comfortable with a semi empty stomach?

Why the fuck can't you repeat that the next day?

You know why? Because people spread days to weeks, weeks to months, and months to years. IT IS DAY TO DAY.
Day to day.
Day to day.

If you do it right Monday, what in the sam hell is stopping you from doing it Tuesday..nothing. Wednesday? Nothing. Thursday...the memory that you just did it 3 days before right?
Exactly. People tend to think of the road they traveled as one mountain to another, but its the steps that take you up it. They look back at some far off mountain and miss their own daily footsteps and say...hey look how far I came! I am going to have cheesecake.
Fuckit.
It is NO harder on Friday than it is on Tuesday...no harder. Its a lie we tell ourselves.

Anyway that's it.
Great advice. I'm going to add sometimes it's about knowing also when you stand still on that daily footstepping...you have to think I didn't move back so in essence you did move forward although you didn't move at all. Standing still is not the same as stepping back. Sometimes that standing still is a day or a week. But if you can maintain the momentum, keep off what you lost...that's what counts.
And read my other post about day by day. In all senses it is like food alcoholism.
It is. Food addiction...food abuse...it's compulsive behavior. Which is often misunderstood. It looks so easy...except to the someone who has the compulsive behavior problem. I look at my own "food issues" this way. I'm in recovery. There is no cure. I could fall back at anytime. Knowing that, I watch my behavior for signs I could be "falling off the wagon".

Now for my update. In Aug. '08 I was wearing a size 40 pants. Probably 42 comfortable depending on the brand. Now I can fit comfortably in a size 34. I'm down over 60 lbs since last August. I have gained and I have lost through the years. I finally managed to lose and keep it off. I'm the thinnest i've been in 15 yrs. I'm not done yet either. I'm shooting for size 32 in March. I probably am a size 30. Next year at this time I hope to be at an optimal BMI. I've battled this fat for over 20 yrs. It's not easy. I wish I had a quick fix to tell. I think what Karak said a few posts up says it all. It's day to day. Acknowledge your good days. Congratulate yourself when you succeed on your goals. Even when you don't lose, but you didn't gain...tell yourself you still are succeeding. Never in my life would I think I would reach this weight i'm at. I still have a ways to go...but looking back where I been...shit, i'm going to break my arm patting myself on the back. I deserve it :D

[Nameless]

Welp, I've gotten back into the whole weight loss thing after a failed last six months, and so far have managed to lose 4 kilos in a week. Wii Fit Plus is pretty useful and remarkable thus far. We'll see if it's possible to keep this up (I sure as hell hope so!).

[Purple Santa]

Welp, I've gotten back into the whole weight loss thing after a failed last six months, and so far have managed to lose 4 kilos in a week. Wii Fit Plus is pretty useful and remarkable thus far. We'll see if it's possible to keep this up (I sure as hell hope so!).

Hope is always important :).

I've heard a few that used Wii Fit to lose weight. I think it's a great way to be introduced to exercise that can be entertaining. Once you start and see the results, it's keeping that in perspective that helps you keep going.

[Nameless]

Hope is always important :).

I've heard a few that used Wii Fit to lose weight. I think it's a great way to be introduced to exercise that can be entertaining. Once you start and see the results, it's keeping that in perspective that helps you keep going.

I'm really addicted to the rhythm boxing right now, and some of the strength exercises are pretty good. Ideally, I'd like to be doing kickboxing to work out, but it's just not something I can afford right now. I'm hoping they'll have some deals set up at my local dojo once the new year hits... They're always trying to snare people with long-term deals after New Year's Resolutions are made.

[Inspector Fowler]

I would love to see more Wii games that incorporate the Wii remote, using a variety of special holders, into everyday fitness equipment that many people buy, but then just let collect dust.

For example, I could wear it in something of an ankle holster and bike on any model of exercise bike. If a game also used a heart rate monitor to check my exertion, I could use any brand of stationary bike and it could help me track my progress/play an onscreen game. Same thing for treadmills, rowing machines, elipticals, etc.

[Karak]

I would love to see more Wii games that incorporate the Wii remote, using a variety of special holders, into everyday fitness equipment that many people buy, but then just let collect dust.

For example, I could wear it in something of an ankle holster and bike on any model of exercise bike. If a game also used a heart rate monitor to check my exertion, I could use any brand of stationary bike and it could help me track my progress/play an onscreen game. Same thing for treadmills, rowing machines, elipticals, etc.

I was at Bestbuy yesterday and got three new titles all involving the wiimote and using it to work out.
I wrapped them allready but on Christmas I will pop back here and list them.

[Xerxes]

I've blown up. It's like I let myself go horribly wrong.

[H.Bogard]

A cookie for anyone who can give me a near-perfect alternative for hanging leg raises.

[Nameless]

I've blown up. It's like I let myself go horribly wrong.

I feel you, man. Since I'm working two part-time jobs, I find myself being really lazy on my days off, which are more frequent than I'd like. This leads to me ordering in for dinner/supper and eating way too much.

I'm keeping on the Wii Fit, but it's not being very helpful yet. I'm really hoping to scrape up enough money to pay for kickboxing in the new year. I did Jiu-Jitsu for a few months last year and lost 20lbs (which I mostly regained when I stopped), so I'm hoping I can see those effects again.

Also, somehow, I lost weight during the holidays last year (despite copious amounts of food and French-Canadian cooking), so I'm hoping that trend continues!

[Crowe]

I imagine weight loss is bit like my problem of trying to put muscle on. For years I have tried to get ripped and every single time I fail, I will have a few days off and it will totally throw me out and then 3 months have passed and I haven't touched weights. I've always found it odd that people can't continue doing something that makes them feel good. I have to eat a lot of junk to put on any weight but it still makes me feel like utter shit.

I know you guys are doing it a lot harder than I am, but keep at it, these last few months for me everything has just clicked in and I hope it happens for you. At the moment I actually think I might be addicted. Every day I wake up I want to go straight to the gym room and my workouts have increased to 3 hours. The longer times help because i feel great while I'm doing it. I am playing less and less video games and I think it will stay that way for a long time.

I wish you guys could meet the guy who will be my boss over the next few months on an Orchard. He is over 60 years old, is ripped to the max, running 40 km's a week is taking it easy and he is healthier than most people half his age. Most definitely my inspiration for trying to lead a healthy lifestyle.

[cppcrusader]

Next week is going to be rough. I decided to suspend the P90 workout for a week as I've been in crunch mode the last couple weeks. I just wasn't physically capable of working through the night and doing the workout. So I dropped it this week in order to meet my deadline. I imagine it's going to feel like I'm doing the workouts for the first time again.

The P90 is definitely working though. Two weeks in and clothes are already fitting better. In fact, today I'm wearing an XL t-shirt that I haven't been able to wear for a couple years now.

[Karak]

Next week is going to be rough. I decided to suspend the P90 workout for a week as I've been in crunch mode the last couple weeks. I just wasn't physically capable of working through the night and doing the workout. So I dropped it this week in order to meet my deadline. I imagine it's going to feel like I'm doing the workouts for the first time again.

The P90 is definitely working though. Two weeks in and clothes are already fitting better. In fact, today I'm wearing an XL t-shirt that I haven't been able to wear for a couple years now.

Ha p90 is just good. No doubts about it. Its one of the better body plans out there. Sure you can get in shape many ways, but p90 and p90x have concentrated it down to almost no wasted work and pure intensity.

[cppcrusader]

Ha p90 is just good. No doubts about it. Its one of the better body plans out there. Sure you can get in shape many ways, but p90 and p90x have concentrated it down to almost no wasted work and pure intensity.

You ain't just whistlin' dixie on that one. I'm still surprised by the rapid improvement from it. That first day I just barely got through the sculpt workout and I gave up half way through the cardio the next day. By the end of the week though I was finishing every workout completely and doing the alts for a couple exercises. By the end of the second I was doing almost no alt exercises, I still do the alt for the cross hops out of consideration for my downstairs neighbor.

[Karak]

You ain't just whistlin' dixie on that one. I'm still surprised by the rapid improvement from it. That first day I just barely got through the sculpt workout and I gave up half way through the cardio the next day. By the end of the week though I was finishing every workout completely and doing the alts for a couple exercises. By the end of the second I was doing almost no alt exercises, I still do the alt for the cross hops out of consideration for my downstairs neighbor.

Ya it is basically exactly like the workouts we did in martial arts and those were so difficult and random that you NEVER got accostomed to it. Which can suck, but helps your workout incredibly. I am glad I hear so many people like it.

[Inspector Fowler]

I just did my first P90X workout. I'm still out of shape (and I gained 10 lbs since my vasectomy/over the holidays!) so I can't totally keep up.

But +1 to what Karak said - I was paying $100 a month (with the police discount!) to go to a local Krav Maga school. They were awesome, and the conditioning classes were hard enough to make anybody question whatever faith system they may have!! But the P90X workouts seem like pretty much the same thing for way less (total) money, if you are disciplined enough to follow them.

[Karak]

I just did my first P90X workout. I'm still out of shape (and I gained 10 lbs since my vasectomy/over the holidays!) so I can't totally keep up.

But +1 to what Karak said - I was paying $100 a month (with the police discount!) to go to a local Krav Maga school. They were awesome, and the conditioning classes were hard enough to make anybody question whatever faith system they may have!! But the P90X workouts seem like pretty much the same thing for way less (total) money, if you are disciplined enough to follow them.

Glad to have you aboard the train:0 Good job and hope you keep it up.

[Xerxes]

Grrr... I've been working on steeling myself for the new year. Don't really plan to wait then, but I've shown myself how easy results can be gotten. I just have to be ready to follow all the way through.

[bapenguin]

Now that the holidays are over I can get back on track. 12 pounds by February 21st. It's gonna be tough.

[Karak]

Grrr... I've been working on steeling myself for the new year. Don't really plan to wait then, but I've shown myself how easy results can be gotten. I just have to be ready to follow all the way through.

Day to day to day sir.

[Xerxes]

Day to day to day sir.

Well I hope to go back to focused two week sessions. Results can be seen at the end and I have short terms goals thats apart of a overall change.

[Disgustipated]

Now that the holidays are over I can get back on track. 12 pounds by February 21st. It's gonna be tough.

3500 calories = 1 lb of body fat

You need a 500 calorie DEFICIT (that is, Calorie intake - Calories burned all day, not just during exercise) every day for 7 days to lose 1 lb of fat.

So you'll need a 1000 calorie deficit every day for the next 2 months to lose 12 lbs.

[Xerxes]

3500 calories = 1 lb of body fat

You need a 500 calorie DEFICIT (that is, Calorie intake - Calories burned all day, not just during exercise) every day for 7 days to lose 1 lb of fat.

So you'll need a 1000 calorie deficit every day for the next 2 months to lose 12 lbs.

Maybe it's just my fat ass but I was able to lose that(12lbs) in about 2 weeks. :D

[Karak]

Maybe it's just my fat ass but I was able to lose that(12lbs) in about 2 weeks. :D

That's because the deficit can be impacted by other situations, thyroid changes, temp of workout area, long term version short term workouts, and other situations. The calories is a good baseline but not perfect for everyone as it doesn't take in resting calorie burn, metabolism impact due to workout and caloric restriction and so forth.
So though 3500 is a pound, how you burn it is not as static as it may appear.
Some of it may be water, some of it simply a good poop:) Yes that's true. When you weight yourself and so forth.

[civil]

I's gots me a question:

When people talk about P90 (not the X one as I'm too soft for it) is this (http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/power90.do) what they're talking about? My goal is to loose the final 15 or so pounds I want to but more importantly firm the fuck up. If this really is working for people I might take a bite.

[Karak]

I's gots me a question:

When people talk about P90 (not the X one as I'm too soft for it) is this (http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/power90.do) what they're talking about? My goal is to loose the final 15 or so pounds I want to but more importantly firm the fuck up. If this really is working for people I might take a bite.

Yep.
P90 and P90x are made by that guy.
Great work out. Actually I would go so far as to say amazing, and I can only count 3 workouts in my life I would label as amazing. His exercises remove almost all muscle memory so you don't plateau easily.

[civil]

Alright, I ordered it. I can't believe I'm trying something that just screams "As seen on TV!" but I've read enough that I'm willing to entertain it.

I hope I'm disciplined enough to make it work. I think it'll be my own personal challenge for the next three months.

[Karak]

Alright, I ordered it. I can't believe I'm trying something that just screams "As seen on TV!" but I've read enough that I'm willing to entertain it.

I hope I'm disciplined enough to make it work. I think it'll be my own personal challenge for the next three months.

The system has a test. Just don't get down on yourself if you can't pass all the tests at the start. Some items can be brutal.
And good luck sir. You should love it.

[bapenguin]

3500 calories = 1 lb of body fat

You need a 500 calorie DEFICIT (that is, Calorie intake - Calories burned all day, not just during exercise) every day for 7 days to lose 1 lb of fat.

So you'll need a 1000 calorie deficit every day for the next 2 months to lose 12 lbs.

It's a good guideline, but there's too many other factors. I'm basically on a 1700 calorie diet which seems to work for me. Since I've started losing I'm averaging 5 pounds a month, so it's definitely doable.

[Inspector Fowler]

Civil - don't feel bad. When I told my wife I wanted it for Christmas, I told her that it was the sissiest thing I'd ever asked for.

Seriously, though, look at it this way:

If you are disciplined (and wealthy) enough to get a decent gym membership, go six times a week and attend classes for resistance training, cardio, yoga, stretching, plyometrics, etc...you are disciplined enough to do it at home.

I just finished the workout on my fifth day.

You guys don't know me, but I am only 5'07" and I maxed out at 273 pounds. I have lost 50 pounds since then, mostly through diet. But at 224 lbs today, I still have a very, very hefty gut. It makes this shit hard - super hard. I can't physically fit into some of the yoga poses and the ab-ripper routine isn't just hard because of the burn - I can't fold myself in half with all this fat!

But these workouts are excellent and I am confident that if I keep eating well and following these workouts, I'll get my weight down and build a substantial amount of real fitness to boot.

I sound like an ad, I know.

[civil]

I hear ya. I'm 5'8" and was 250 pounds at my heaviest. I'm now down to 165 (probably 170 with all this holiday shit) and want to get to 150/155, more if muscle is involved. 50 pounds is a lot to loose, you should be proud. And honestly, it makes sex better so your wife should be proud and happy. Or happier.

[PathMaster]

P90 and P90x are not for the beginners from what I hear. Someone should have some level of fitness correct?

[Karak]

P90 and P90x are not for the beginners from what I hear. Someone should have some level of fitness correct?

P90 is most likely ok. P90x ya I would wait.

[Nameless]

I hear ya. I'm 5'8" and was 250 pounds at my heaviest. I'm now down to 165 (probably 170 with all this holiday shit) and want to get to 150/155, more if muscle is involved. 50 pounds is a lot to loose, you should be proud. And honestly, it makes sex better so your wife should be proud and happy. Or happier.

So how'd you lose the first 85 lbs, if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking for any sort of motivation to get my goals done this year, and success stories are always good for that.

Also, I felt the same way when I visited that P90x site. I thought I would end up with a ShamWow! or something thrown into my order.

[resikel]

I went on a cleansing diet that consist of salad, soup, and fruit juices and lost 10lbs in 27 days.

[civil]

So how'd you lose the first 85 lbs, if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking for any sort of motivation to get my goals done this year, and success stories are always good for that.
I was on Atkins for six years and lost 75 pounds within two and a half. Then over the next three or so years my weight fluctuated because I wasn't so careful, finally resting at 197 last March (though I'd been eating vegan for six months by that time). I started to watch my caloric intake and dropped 32 pounds over the course of the next four months and have maintained since then, except for this holiday shit. Grr. So I still want to drop another 10/15 to get to a good weight for myself. I was telling my girlfriend yesterday that the only way in which I want to model myself after my father is in physical fitness (rough history there). He's going to be 66 this year and is amazingly fit and looks like he's in his early 50s. I also have that young gene as at 41 I get mistaken for late 20s a lot. So I need to make sure the body is up to snuff. It makes picking up high school chicks so much easier.

Also, I felt the same way when I visited that P90x site. I thought I would end up with a ShamWow! or something thrown into my order.
Yeah, when I told me girlfriend about it yesterday she giggled. She won't be laughing when I chop-socky her ass to the curb!

I went on a cleansing diet that consist of salad, soup, and fruit juices and lost 10lbs in 27 days.
Monday I start the ever popular (I get lots of shit about it 'round these parts) master cleanse for 10 days (subsisting on a mixture of lemon juice, maple syrup, cayenne paper and water only). I usually lose 6-10 pounds in that time period, but it's always water weight. I never use these things as weight loss, but rather to detox (many will doubt it works but as someone who's gone through this four times now it really does) because the only way to truly lose weight is lifestyle change. I don't mean to poop on you, but rather to encourage you to not think of that cleanse as a way to lose weight, because most assuredly it will come back unless you switch to a diet of salad, soup and fruit juices permanently.

[Nameless]

I went on a cleansing diet that consist of salad, soup, and fruit juices and lost 10lbs in 27 days.

I'm always worried about the cleanses. It seems like it would feel good to 'reset' the body in a way, but on the other hand, I don't know if I could tough it out, or if it's worth the effort. I think I'd want to wait until I'm at a healthy weight to try this.

I was on Atkins for six years and lost 75 pounds within two and a half. Then over the next three or so years my weight fluctuated because I wasn't so careful, finally resting at 197 last March (though I'd been eating vegan for six months by that time). I started to watch my caloric intake and dropped 32 pounds over the course of the next four months and have maintained since then, except for this holiday shit. Grr. So I still want to drop another 10/15 to get to a good weight for myself. I was telling my girlfriend yesterday that the only way in which I want to model myself after my father is in physical fitness (rough history there). He's going to be 66 this year and is amazingly fit and looks like he's in his early 50s. I also have that young gene as at 41 I get mistaken for late 20s a lot. So I need to make sure the body is up to snuff. It makes picking up high school chicks so much easier.

That's a pretty awesome Atkins success story; is that the diet with no carbs? I guess rule number one is watching your intake, which I'm trying to do. I bought mostly healthy stuff today when I did the groceries (leafy greens, vegetables and fruits, oh my), so I guess now the hope is that I can keep eating well for the long term. I think you're right that lifestyle change is the only way, it's just hard to break habits, especially when you're weak-willed like I am.

Also, it'd be nice to be seen as younger than I am rather than older. Though I probably should avoid picking up high school chicks, that could turn out pretty awkward what with my high school teaching career plans. :p

[Inspector Fowler]

The first week of P90X is now completed, yesterday was my rest day. Some observations:



I get a runner's high like none other - after the workout, when I have a little snack and I'm taking a shower, the combination of endorphins, blood sugar coming up, and my muscles relaxing is great.
This feeling ends about 2-3 hours later when soreness sets in.
I am already more flexible.
I lost 5 lbs, although much of that is probably just fluids.
I used to be a Cross Country runner and no 8 mile run ever felt like these workouts do - the nice thing is that they scale to your level of fitness, so if you're in good shape and you want to get in great shape, you can use heavier weights/more reps/higher intensity and you'll still end up breaking down a lot of muscle tissue.
Having a rest day was insane - I still ate very healthy but allowed myself slight higher carbs (a single bowl of noodles, about 230 calories). Between this and having no murderous workout, I have had absolutely huge amounts of energy today (it's still today to me, I've been up since 11:00 AM yesterday and I'm juuuust about to hit the sack here).
I am ready to whup ass on week two.

My wife is in good shape but she is on the Lean version of it and it's hard for her too, but she likes it as well.

[Xerxes]

I woke up this morning and tried to go all magnificent beast on some gold gym and my fucking resistance band popped. O_O

I'll try the med level tomorrow morning but I don't know if that's going to work. >_<
I have to do something in house cause walking just ain't happening. It was like 40 degrees this morning and I know walking around that lake would of been much worse.

[civil]

I woke up this morning and tried to go all magnificent beast on some gold gym and my fucking resistance band popped. O_O

I'll try the med level tomorrow morning but I don't know if that's going to work. >_<
I have to do something in house cause walking just ain't happening. It was like 40 degrees this morning and I know walking around that lake would of been much worse.
Man up, nancy boy! We'd kill for 40 degrees here in Chicago. Hell, it's floating in the single digits and the gf and I are gearing up to ride our bikes. :p

[Purple Santa]

So how'd you lose the first 85 lbs, if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking for any sort of motivation to get my goals done this year, and success stories are always good for that.

I don't have any great stories, but maybe some easy tips to keep yourself going. If you are watching your caloric intake, you should write all the food down you eat in a day. You would be surprised how helpful it is to see what exactly you are eating and how many calories it is. You might want to check with your doctor what a good calorie diet is for you. Whatever number you use, be flexible with yourself in the beginning. You might go over the number but it's a guide. You get into a rhythm with your eating, knowing what you can eat for the most satisfaction and best calories. But in the beginning, it's all about getting used to writing down what you eat and paying attention to the calories. If you try to bust on yourself to fast, it doesn't work. Take that as a true confession. I tried for years, kept losing some but then gaining more. My last attempt i've kept off 60 lbs and looking to lose another 30/35. I excercise 5/6 days a week but just as important I write down what I eat, count the calories finding different foods that satisfy for different needs. As Karak has said many times in this thread...one day at a time. And i'll add celebrate every positive that comes about the change from your change in your routine (lost weight, clothes fit better, feeling better in general etc).
Man up, nancy boy! We'd kill for 40 degrees here in Chicago. Hell, it's floating in the single digits and the gf and I are gearing up to ride our bikes. :p
I was thinking the same. Although our weather is only hovering around 20 degrees so that's still warmer than yours. I need to buy a bike, because i'd love to do that instead of using my car so often. Both for me and the environment.

[Inspector Fowler]

If you are watching your caloric intake, you should write all the food down you eat in a day.

This here is the gospel truth.

For my first 50 pounds, I lost it almost exclusively doing that. I was exercising by biking to work, but it wasn't regular enough to get my metabolism up.

All I did was pick a reasonable calorie intake that didn't starve me but definitely put me in a deficit. I started at 2,000 calories - I figured if a "normal" person should eat that much, a 100 lb overweight person can lose weight on it.

Boy was I right - without starving, I started just throwing the pounds off. I mean, super fast weight loss. It was a great self-esteem boost to start so fast.

I've started the P90X because I'm at a point where I either have to really lower my caloric intake (hey, some people just have a really slow metabolism) or accept that my weight loss will slow to a crawl.

Since my end goal is overall fitness, not just lower weight, I figured this was the right time to throw in some exercise. You may find the same thing - if you're tons overweight like I was, you'll see that you can lose weight really fast at first without starving, but in the end, as you start to hit a healthier weight, you'll probably have to adjust your calories.

If you have a smartphone, use a calorie tracker. I'm currently using the Livestrong one, it works well because the database is gigantic.

[Xerxes]

I don't have any leggings though. Only workout shorts. O_o

[Karak]

I don't have any leggings though. Only workout shorts. O_o

My lord.
Dude you are named after a Historic Figure.
Your awesome personified.
Fucking go running in 40 degrees. You won't die!

[TheFlyingOrc]

I don't think I've posted in the thread before. I started seeing a personal trainer back in July. I have lost very little weight, but I stopped gaining, and I can currently do 40lb bicep curls and 165 on the bench press, both of which are over double where I started. Lifting weights is awesome, get some friends to go with you so you can't just "not go".

/flex

[Xerxes]

My lord.
Dude you are named after a Historic Figure.
Your awesome personified.
Fucking go running in 40 degrees. You won't die!

:( Maybe I'm named after pussified Xerxes II.

Ok that's not true. I'll go in the cold tomorrow. T-Shirt and Shorts as always. I can't die, and I'm already uncomfortable... being fat.

[civil]

If you have a smartphone, use a calorie tracker. I'm currently using the Livestrong one, it works well because the database is gigantic.
I can't stress enough how this has helped me lose the past 30 pounds. I am very diligent about it though. You need to be.

Personally, I use "Lose It!" for the iPhone, and it has made all the difference in the world. I don't think I would have lost this weight without it.

[Karak]

:( Maybe I'm named after pussified Xerxes II.

Ok that's not true. I'll go in the cold tomorrow. T-Shirt and Shorts as always. I can't die, and I'm already uncomfortable... being fat.

I run in any weather. Unless its dangerous road running, no sense in being stupid:)

Also cold weather running, hot weather running both can offer some dramatic pluses such as higher caloric burn to keep your temp regulated and keep your muscles flush with blood.

[Inspector Fowler]

All right, here is my three step mental plan, guys. I figured this out before I started, and all I needed to do was act on it. I think this is very basic, and could be used for any self-help stuff.



Realize that life isn't fair. I hate hearing fat people bitch about their skinny friends who can eat what they want and not gain a pound. Guess what? When the zombie apocalypse comes, those guys are going to starve first while those of us with more...efficient metabolisms are going to live longer ;) But seriously - life isn't fair. Everybody in my mom's family is fat. We also have bad eyesight. I'm also only 5'07". Tough shit. Life isn't fair. So your skinny friends can eat more than you? Who said you got to eat whatever you wanted in this life, fatty?
Stop lying to yourself. Fat people are masters at self-deception. Here are some examples (I have told myself all of these): "Just one more won't make a difference". "I'll start my diet this Sunday." "At my weight, I can't exercise anyway." There are some sneaky lies too - eating without portion control is a lie - I like a few Saltines with some soup, but (no shit) if you let me go I'll eat a whole stack of them before I notice it. It's self-deception. Fat people lie to themselves so they don't have to accept responsibility for what they've done to themselves. If you've ever said, "But my whole family is fat, it's not my fault.", that's a lie. If you knew your family was fat, what the hell are you doing not counting calories and exercising?!
You - and only you - did this to yourself. Nobody put a gun to your head and made you overeat day after day, year after year. You chose to eat the foods. Sometimes just because you love food. Some people, it's because they're bored. Some people eat as an emotional safety blanket. But nobody made them do it, right?

But here's the best part of rule #3. The logical complementary half of rule #3 is: You can fix it yourself, too. And the best part is, in most cases, it's a lot faster to lose weight than it is to gain it. Not always. But for me, my 100 lbs of weight crept up over about 12-13 years. I lost 50lbs in 6 months and I'm still going.

So basically, you have to:

Realize that life isn't fair - You will have to control food type and portions where others may not have to.
Stop lying to yourself - Be honest with yourself about what you eat and how much.
Realize that only you control what you eat, and you can change! If you set a realistic, non-punitive calorie limit, you will lose weight without going nuts.

Just think of this. If you're 50 lbs overweight, all you need to do is average 1 lb of weight loss a week and in a year you'll feel great. That's not starvation or self-punishment. If you're fat, and next Christmas you could go back and see all those relatives you only see once a year and they were shocked by how thin and healthy you are, wouldn't it be worth it?

I will also say this - I wasted - absolutely wasted - the best decade of my life being overweight. My 20's were spent in self-pity about being fat, avoiding contact with others, hiding at my house because of how embarrassed I was to be fat. I avoided activities my wife loves like hiking or biking because I was too fat to do them. I didn't go out to restaurants because I always feel like the other customers are watching me eat, thinking, "Yeah, like that fat fuck needs a hamburger."

Now that I am 32 and I'm really slimming down and getting fit, I am ashamed that I wasted my whole 20's like that.

If you're younger than me and you're trying to lose weight, stop trying and do it! Don't be miserable like I was! Get fit and enjoy yourself.

[Karak]

STUFF

Excellent.
Also I think people's language defines their reality.
Someone "trying" to lose weight, leaves room for failure.
You "are" losing weight. The moment you stop eating too much, or start exercising, or changing your life, or switching to something that works for you, you are no longer trying you are doing.

Live in the now, not the future for change.
Live in the future for goals.
Live in the past for reminders of why you made those goals.

Also, and I can not stress this enough.
Get a pic of you when your heavy and leave it to look at it and remind you of what you do NOT want to be.
We look to the past with rose colored glasses. We get back with ex's because we think it wasn't as bad as it was.
Well no one runs into gunfire after the first time:)...well maybe, but fast sharp pain usually causes the quickest changes, thats why many heart attack victims lose weight, get healthy right away.
With obesity it can be slow and sneaky. So you need to be sneaky back.

It's an enemy that is without honor, without fear, and without morals. It will do everything to get you back the way you were. Take some fucking confidence in defeating it daily, because...like the Chinese, it can send wave after wave of enemies at you in the shape of cupcakes and doritos.

Lastly:
It is a battle where you will suffer loses, and make gains. It will be won in years lived, energy available for other endeavors, and happiness, and possibly fucking hotties you would have not had a chance with.
Just saying:)

[bapenguin]

All right, here is my three step mental plan, guys. I figured this out before I started, and all I needed to do was act on it. I think this is very basic, and could be used for any self-help stuff.

....

Now that I am 32 and I'm really slimming down and getting fit, I am ashamed that I wasted my whole 20's like that.

Great list. I'm a strong believer in the capacity of human willpower to do anything.

As to your second statement, I had the exact thought the other day. I turn 30 in a few weeks, and can't for the life of me figure out why I was so damn lazy during most of my early 20's.

[H.Bogard]

I will also say this - I wasted - absolutely wasted - the best decade of my life being overweight. My 20's were spent in self-pity about being fat, avoiding contact with others, hiding at my house because of how embarrassed I was to be fat. I avoided activities my wife loves like hiking or biking because I was too fat to do them. I didn't go out to restaurants because I always feel like the other customers are watching me eat, thinking, "Yeah, like that fat fuck needs a hamburger."

Now that I am 32 and I'm really slimming down and getting fit, I am ashamed that I wasted my whole 20's like that.


Haha, its not unnatural to feel that way. I halved my weight (literally) when I turned 21 and feel the same as you do for my teen years.

[Bone]

My thirties have been much better for my self-esteem and body image too. In my early twenties I put on lots of weight, and while I was never huge, I LOOKED puffy. My face was like a stay-puff version of my real self. Took me until 30 to make positive steps and I'm still making them slowly at 35. I'm wearing a 33-34 waist jean instead of 36, got down to M-L in shirts instead of XL, and it's a very positive change.

Using the Wii Fit lately has helped a lot, when it's too cold to exercise outside I'll still jog, box, hula hoop, do push-ups, etc.

[civil]

Do the Wii exercises really work? That might just be the incentive I need to buy one of the little bastards. But I've got the P90 hopefully showing up in a few days. But no word from them yet, dammit.

Day 3 of the master cleanse and I can feel my tongue sticking to the roof of my mouth. Yum.

[Bone]

Certain exercises work, if you use good form and make the most of them. The squats, push-ups, situps, of course all work (and the Wii Fit board helps you center your weight as you do them). But just try the hula hoop for a few minutes, or some of the other aerobic/stretching/stepping exercises, and I guarantee you can get some real workouts. It's a great way to vary your workout and learn proper form for different exercises.

[Nameless]

Alright, I've taken the aforementioned advice and I've started counting my caloric intake, with the goal of eating less than 2000 per day, which is enough for me to lose about 1.5 lb. per week from my current calculations. Of course, everything changes as you lose weight, but if I could lose 30-40lbs. this way, and then combine it with going to the gym, it could amount to something.

Then again, this thread is full of posts by me saying stuff like this and I'm still where I started. I need this to stick this time. I'm hoping keeping track of it will be the difference, since this'll be a first for that.

And yeah, I find the Wii Fit stuff can be pretty good (go with Wii Fit Plus if you can, it's worth it). I really love that rhythm boxing.

[Bone]

And yeah, I find the Wii Fit stuff can be pretty good (go with Wii Fit Plus if you can, it's worth it). I really love that rhythm boxing.
I should have mentioned, yeah, I got the Wii Fit Plus with more activities than the first one. Not sure if an old copy of Wii Fit can be updated or DLC'ed to make it as good. The standard Wii fit exercises are still good, but the Plus activities definitely push it over the edge.

[Xerxes]

Do the Wii exercises really work? That might just be the incentive I need to buy one of the little bastards. But I've got the P90 hopefully showing up in a few days. But no word from them yet, dammit.

Day 3 of the master cleanse and I can feel my tongue sticking to the roof of my mouth. Yum.

So far the Wii has a winning combo with me. Gold's Gym and a resistance band around the back.

I snapped my light band Monday, so I bumped it up to the med band. It's tight as fuck but I'd sooner go harder than go buy a new light one. The blue cable just won't work unless I turn into the hulk.

[Nameless]

Alright, so my goal of staying under 2,000 calories per day was particularly difficult tonight, as I was going out to a party, and discovered that beer has way too many calories. I managed to do it, though, and am on day three.

One day at a time, right Karak? :)

How's the cleanse going, civil? I am always impressed with people who go through with this (I have an uncle who does it regularly). On the one hand, it seems like a really good idea to detox every now and then. On the other hand, I'm a pretty big fan of solid food. :p

[Karak]

One day at a time, right Karak? :)


Always. Constant fucking vigilance.

[Purple Santa]

All I did was pick a reasonable calorie intake that didn't starve me but definitely put me in a deficit. I started at 2,000 calories - I figured if a "normal" person should eat that much, a 100 lb overweight person can lose weight on it.

Since my end goal is overall fitness, not just lower weight, I figured this was the right time to throw in some exercise. You may find the same thing - if you're tons overweight like I was, you'll see that you can lose weight really fast at first without starving, but in the end, as you start to hit a healthier weight, you'll probably have to adjust your calories.

It's unfortunate that over the years, calorie diets have become looked upon as some relic weight loss plan. I know for the masses, looking at calories is scary especially when you realize you just can't eat the mfg food that you have eating most of your life. But you are a great example of choosing a good start and making it work. For a male, typical male they say 2200 calories is a "normal" intake if they do no exercise. That's how I based my calorie intake. Anything less than that with exercise i'll lose weight. I remember those first days and months counting calories, writing everything down. What it made me do was find food that was satisfying and lower in calories. I wasn't thinking "healthy" food, just food that will make me less hungry and ones where I won't go over my calories for the day. As i've lost more weight, my outlook changed on my food intake. I did want to eat better, healthier foods. But that's comes with time. I can't say this enough to everyone who starts. Pick a calorie number, try to stick with it, exercise and how you get to stick with that number doesn't matter. I know it's a thinking "I have to eat healthy" which means doing all kinds of drastic measures to their eating habits. Putting yourself on a calorie diet and writing down those foods is traumatic enough in the beginning. The better eating and healthy foods, what you will find you enjoy will come. And Inspector Fowler is right as you go along, you will want to lower your calorie count to keep losing but picking a number that you can be comfortable with.
Alright, I've taken the aforementioned advice and I've started counting my caloric intake, with the goal of eating less than 2000 per day, which is enough for me to lose about 1.5 lb. per week from my current calculations. Of course, everything changes as you lose weight, but if I could lose 30-40lbs. this way, and then combine it with going to the gym, it could amount to something.
As civil has pointed out, losing weight isn't an exact science which is a good thing. You be surprised how some weeks you lose a bit more than average than other weeks you lose way more than average. Then you get the few no loss weeks but by then you will have lost enough to make you feel " I didn't gain" so you did "lose". It sounds like a great plan.

Then again, this thread is full of posts by me saying stuff like this and I'm still where I started. I need this to stick this time. I'm hoping keeping track of it will be the difference, since this'll be a first for that.

And yeah, I find the Wii Fit stuff can be pretty good (go with Wii Fit Plus if you can, it's worth it). I really love that rhythm boxing.
Don't beat yourself up over saying you will start but haven't. I'll be the guy who says been there, lied to myself for long time...and finally did do it. We learn stuff when we fail. Even failing in such things as weight management. Besides, you have a solid plan now. And you have us to cheer you on :D
:D

I know Wii Fit gets made fun of and people ask how much can that help. All research has suggested for those to keep in shape and/or to lose weight is to have the heart elevated for over thirty minutes of activity. It can be any activity. Wii Fit is exercise. It gets your heart pumping. That should be the end of that. Besides, if it helps someone feel better and encourages them to do more exercise outside the Wii Fit, then more power to the "game".
Always. Constant fucking vigilance.

[civil]

Alright, so my goal of staying under 2,000 calories per day was particularly difficult tonight, as I was going out to a party, and discovered that beer has way too many calories. I managed to do it, though, and am on day three.
It tastes like shit and you'll get made fun of for buying it (IRL and online) but there are at least 3 64 calorie beer brands out there (I think Michelob, Budweiser and Becks). For an entire six-pack you can have the caloric intake of 2 average beers. And still drive! :o

One day at a time, right Karak? :)
As Karak said, absofuckinglutely. In fact, it's one meal at a time. Just because you "blew it" at lunch, breakfast, whatever doesn't mean you can't still reach your goals for the day.

How's the cleanse going, civil? I am always impressed with people who go through with this (I have an uncle who does it regularly). On the one hand, it seems like a really good idea to detox every now and then. On the other hand, I'm a pretty big fan of solid food. :p
Today is day six, and it's probably the easiest cleanse I've ever done. Right on schedule a few days ago my tongue started to show signs of "detoxification" and I'm just about to do the ol' saltwater flush. Of course, it's hard on the girlfriend - my breath starts to really stink at this point. It's probably pseudo-science bullshit, I know. But I can't explain how weird it is to have energy, not think about eating and "feel" like toxins are leaving your colon. And yesterday I bought myself a new road bike. Fuck you Old Man Winter, I'm going to seriously kick your ass.

On a related note, no word from the P-90 folks whether or not my shipment was sent out. There's a new gym that opened up by my work and I'm really tempted to cancel my order if it doesn't ship out by Monday and join.

[Purple Santa]

As Karak said, absofuckinglutely. In fact, it's one meal at a time. Just because you "blew it" at lunch, breakfast, whatever doesn't mean you can't still reach your goals for the day.
I wish to jump on civil's bandwagon on this thought. Even if blow one meal and end up over your calorie limit, it's only one day. We all have days like that. It's normal. More importantly, when you take that one day in a week, you will lose weight. Take a few of those days in a month...you still will lose. It's just keeping the "blowing of a meal(s)" contained. It's not about being perfect.

Today is day six, and it's probably the easiest cleanse I've ever done. Right on schedule a few days ago my tongue started to show signs of "detoxification" and I'm just about to do the ol' saltwater flush. Of course, it's hard on the girlfriend - my breath starts to really stink at this point. It's probably pseudo-science bullshit, I know. But I can't explain how weird it is to have energy, not think about eating and "feel" like toxins are leaving your colon. And yesterday I bought myself a new road bike. Fuck you Old Man Winter, I'm going to seriously kick your ass.


I'm glad you are updating us on the cleanse. I know you get hell for it in other threads when you would post on it. I always enjoyed reading your posts because they were informative. It's inspired me to do a cleanse myself one day but not currently. After ADD and I get our own place, after we can eat more like we want to eat (closer to vegetarian but not entirely) I'll do a cleanse. When I do i'll be asking lots of questions :D

[Stoke]

So I've finally decided to get in shape. I'm not overweight but my shirts have been fitting a little tighter than they should and I'm pretty squishy. :( I started Tuesday by going to my campus fitness center. Tue, Wed, and Thu I did 30 minutes on a stationary bike at a moderate level. Nothing groundbreaking but a lot more taxing than sitting on the computer, which has been my workout plan for the last few months. Even harder than actually exercising was cutting out the ~2litre a day of soda and extra junk food I usually consume.

They're closed for the weekends so I'm thinking starting next week I'll be doing the MWF schedule for cardio. Maybe TTh for some light strength exercise. I know very little about the best ways to exercise so does that sound like a decent strategy to you guys?

[Karak]

So I've finally decided to get in shape. I'm not overweight but my shirts have been fitting a little tighter than they should and I'm pretty squishy. :( I started Tuesday by going to my campus fitness center. Tue, Wed, and Thu I did 30 minutes on a stationary bike at a moderate level. Nothing groundbreaking but a lot more taxing than sitting on the computer, which has been my workout plan for the last few months. Even harder than actually exercising was cutting out the ~2litre a day of soda and extra junk food I usually consume.

They're closed for the weekends so I'm thinking starting next week I'll be doing the MWF schedule for cardio. Maybe TTh for some light strength exercise. I know very little about the best ways to exercise so does that sound like a decent strategy to you guys?

As I tell everyone when we discuss stuff like this.
If you dump soda, for a small amount of time you can do diet. And then ween yourself from that.
So basically you go from full soda, to half full half diet, to diet, to water.
The attraction to oral fixation(sounds bad) that is connected to liquids is very high. If you believe some people its due to breast feeding for many people. Take that as you will.

[Inspector Fowler]

This P90X stuff must be working. I caught a guy in a foot pursuit last night, even after falling in some deep snow. I got in a flying tackle in the snow at the end followed by a Tasing.

I did not feel as though I was going to have a heart attack, which was pretty awesome.

Tony Horton would be so proud.

[bapenguin]

This P90X stuff must be working. I caught a guy in a foot pursuit last night, even after falling in some deep snow. I got in a flying tackle in the snow at the end followed by a Tasing.

I did not feel as though I was going to have a heart attack, which was pretty awesome.

Tony Horton would be so proud.

After you tackled him did you go

"P90x...BITCH!"

?

So awesome. :)

[Inspector Fowler]

Well, no. I want you to know that after I had taken the guy to the hospital for a detox hold, and given him a ticket and everything...

I was back at the station, and another officer (who is thinking about doing P90X - he's in good shape but wants to be more fit) asked me the exact same question with the same wording.

Very interesting....;)

[Adam Blue]

I'm glad I can come in here and really jot some things down.

Since the new year I've been doing P90X every Tuesday, Yoga every Sunday and my own plan all the other days. My day off is Saturday, but that's band practice and drumming to thrash metal will still get me going.

My roommate also hooked me up with a great meal plan to lose 2 pounds a week. I've only been doing that for a week and I lost four.

He's all about the amount you eat. Everything is measured, but it works perfectly. Eggs, chicken, veggies, Ezekiel bread, bananas... that's pretty much my diet.

[Purple Santa]

This P90X stuff must be working. I caught a guy in a foot pursuit last night, even after falling in some deep snow. I got in a flying tackle in the snow at the end followed by a Tasing.


I wish there was a youtube video of that.

[Bone]

The flying tackle sounds funnier if you imagine a flying squirrel, outstretched limbs kinda thing. Especially with Mr. Bean's face coming through the air.

[EternalGamer]

Near the end last semester and the stress that came with end of the semster life, I got out of my exercise routine and started eating junk. As a result, I gained back around 5-10lbs, but that's still far below the 35lbs I lost last year. My lazy last couple of months is coming back to haunt me now as my pants starting to get a little tight (some of my size 30" pants don't really fit anymore). It's time to hit the treadmill again. I got a pair of 29" pants X-mas that I can use as incentive. My goal is to fit in them a month from now.

So I started jogging again this week. Last summer I was up to 7 miles a day, but fuck if it isn't hard as hell after taking a couple of months off. I'm only doing 3 1/2 miles a day now and it takes a lot of motivation to get me that far. But I'm just going to keep reminding myself that it wouldn't have been so hard if I had not let it go for so long, so it's my own fault.

[Adam Blue]

What helped with with the starting push was a class with a good teacher.

I just checked my weight this morning, and I'm down to 180. That's 8 pounds in one week. Now, I do have a high metabolism, but again I'm eating on measurements only taking in the fat my body needs.

I only want to lose a few more, my goal now is to trim where necessary (hips and stomach) and just be fit.

[Inspector Fowler]

The flying tackle sounds funnier if you imagine a flying squirrel, outstretched limbs kinda thing. Especially with Mr. Bean's face coming through the air.

It was kind of funny, although I really don't look like Mr. Bean. I just like his character ;) It's also funny since the dude didn't get hurt and neither did I. I fell once, and thought, "I'll never catch him now..." but I looked up and saw that he'd fallen as well. I kept chasing him - he fell a second time, got to his knees, and turned around to see where I was just in time to get a (still 220 lb) guy leaping through the air to catch him before he could start running again.

The last foot pursuit? I decided I could catch an 18 year old football recruit. I was this close to getting on the radio and wheezing, "Fastest kid alive!" Needless to say Mr. Running Back left me in the dust.

Even my wife, who never comments on how I look, has noticed that the P90X has really started burning fat on me. I think the first 50 lbs disappeared mostly from areas like my face, legs, etc. But now it's finally starting to go away from my gut, which make a big difference in how clothes fit, etc.

I think any strict workout program that you followed nearly religiously would have similar results if you are also eating well, of course. This just makes it easy for me because I don't really like taking classes at a gym too much.

[bstiff]

Well guess ill be jumping on the band wagon myself. I used to be fanatical about going to the gym 4-5 days a week and was getting close to doing 300 max on my bench press when I blew a disc in my back. Since then Ive stayed away from lifting but need to start doing cardio as I packed on the weight. a lot of it due to genetics I guess. Im 5'5" and when I was lifting weighed about 200 pounds but it was muscle now it's fat. Any swimmers around? When i was in the army I used to swim close to 2 miles a day 3-4x a week and need to get back into it.

[Karak]

Well guess ill be jumping on the band wagon myself. I used to be fanatical about going to the gym 4-5 days a week and was getting close to doing 300 max on my bench press when I blew a disc in my back. Since then Ive stayed away from lifting but need to start doing cardio as I packed on the weight. a lot of it due to genetics I guess. Im 5'5" and when I was lifting weighed about 200 pounds but it was muscle now it's fat. Any swimmers around? When i was in the army I used to swim close to 2 miles a day 3-4x a week and need to get back into it.

Despite my love for all things martial arts, boxing, running, whatever.
Swimming, in my honest opinion, is probably the best full body workout. It can keep you cool and clean and works EVERYTHING.
Great stuff.

[Nameless]

Well, my calorie counting diet appears to be working... I've dropped about 5lbs in 8 days. From what I've heard about these things, the weight loss always starts quickly and then tapers off to a reasonable 1-2 lbs. per week, which is actually super awesome. Add in a workout regimen that I want to add in the coming months, and for the first time in a long time, I feel like I can realistically achieve my goal and keep it up afterward.

I'm finding that controlling portions and counting calories has many wonderful side effects, too. I haven't overeaten since I've started, and I feel like I make more healthy decisions when I buy my food. I make more efficient purchases, in terms of food quantity and calorie intake.

Plus, I like collecting and analyzing data, so this is actually fun for me in a really nerdy way. Now all that remains to be seen is whether or not I can actually keep it up over the long term, but I'm certainly not finding it difficult right now.

[bapenguin]

Counting calories is definitely the way to go IMO. The best part is, after a few months you basically can do it in your head.

[PathMaster]

Video Game related diet (from Today Show (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34845477/ns/today-today_books/)):

“It has the same aspects of a video game,” the 17-year-old LeBaron told Meredith Vieira live on TODAY Thursday. “You have enemies, you have allies, and you have money. You have to play smart; otherwise, you run out of your money. Your score needs to be high at the end of the day.”

[Nameless]

Video Game related diet (from Today Show (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34845477/ns/today-today_books/)):

First off, that's awesome. He could probably make a ton by publishing a self-help book with his "strategies."

That's how I'm trying to keep up (so far so good!), treat it like a game. Mix/maxing is a pretty useless skill that I've gained from playing RPGs, but it helps a ton when counting calories. You start trying to find the most "advantageous" foods, where you get the most enjoyment with the least calories.

[Karak]

Counting calories is definitely the way to go IMO. The best part is, after a few months you basically can do it in your head.

Sadly, this has pretty much been debunked now with newer thermogenic studies concerning carbon dioxide and heat output in specially built rooms and finding that counting calories...at least those that make up a supposed pound is incredibly inefficient. I am thinking your just meaning, find a good level for you as a person. That's true.
But to everyone reading this, don't ever get in the trap of 3500 calories equals a pound. Weight loss is by no means as clearcut as that.
Again, sadly.

I have personally watched over dieters eating less than 2500 calories and working out with intensity and desire that know's no bounds and not lose a single pound. And have watched a coworker eat 4700 or more calories every single day and not lift a weight or run and he is in great shape.

So just so I am clear. Counting YOUR intake that you have tested yourself...GOOD.
Counting 3500 calories and thinking it will cause you weight loss if you remove those and that's it...BAD:)

[Karak]

One last things guys.

For gods sakes make sure you are getting iodine in your food. I can't count how many people I find who don't get iodine and can't lose weight. It has to be the most easy and yet misunderstood connection to the thyroid. I spent almost 9 years of my youth not getting enough and once supplementation was in effect...wow.

[Purple Santa]

Sadly, this has pretty much been debunked now with newer thermogenic studies concerning carbon dioxide and heat output in specially built rooms and finding that counting calories...at least those that make up a supposed pound is incredibly inefficient. I am thinking your just meaning, find a good level for you as a person. That's true.
But to everyone reading this, don't ever get in the trap of 3500 calories equals a pound. Weight loss is by no means as clearcut as that.
Again, sadly.


Can you link me up with some sources on that stuff? I'm always looking for good reads.

[Karak]

Can you link me up with some sources on that stuff? I'm always looking for good reads.

You will have to do google and then use research studies searches. I think there is a search engine for that as well. We were doing research papers on this a couple years ago when it started coming up. I don't work there anymore so I don't have the stuff but it should be hard to find them.

Europe began the studies in the early 2000's and then America jumped on the bandwagon.
Long story short if you measure carbon dioxide output in an enclosed chamber before and after exercise, during rest and so on you can find out exact caloric output.

The findings are pretty much known by all doctors now. Basically 3500 is a great number to think about, but for some people with caloric output inhibition(there words I think), some people just do more or less with that number.

[TurboKinny]

I was clearing out old clothes today because I just bought a bunch of new, smaller pants. On a whim I decided to try on my "these will never be attainable" skinny jeans that were given to me over the summer...and they slipped right on! I am in a very happy shock :)

Started around 215 this summer, was 195 in November, and 189 today. 4 pounds to my goal :)

[civil]

TK you know the "pics or it didn't happen" line is going to come from someone eventually. Better it be me than these heathens.


EDIT: Xerxes, your hair freaks me the fuck out.

[TurboKinny]

TK you know the "pics or it didn't happen" line is going to come from someone eventually. Better it be me than these heathens.
Yeah yeah.

before:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/turbokinny/before1.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/turbokinny/DSCN0284.jpg

now:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/turbokinny/after1.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/turbokinny/after2.jpg

[civil]

Damn.

Too short of a damn.

[Inspector Fowler]

On a whim I decided to try on my "these will never be attainable" skinny jeans that were given to me over the summer...and they slipped right on! I am in a very happy shock :)

Isn't that badass? I have a bunch of old clothes that fit again. If people have never been fat, they don't know how relieving it is. I was nearly in tears when I realized that my old surplus flight jacket fit again, and that my old paintball BDUs from my college years can fit, etc.

[bapenguin]

Isn't that badass? I have a bunch of old clothes that fit again. If people have never been fat, they don't know how relieving it is. I was nearly in tears when I realized that my old surplus flight jacket fit again, and that my old paintball BDUs from my college years can fit, etc.

I was big for so long that most of my "old clothes" were gone. Now I have the problem of actually replacing my wardrobe because everything falls off of me. I've had to buy all new belts, underwear and pants. Shirts are next on the list.

I was a size 40 waist, now a comfortable 36.

204 as of this morning, was hoping to get to 199 by February 21st but that isn't going to happen. Still, I'm pretty happy and I should be close by the end of the month.

[Borthcollective]

Congrats everyone. Maybe someday I will be able to make a similar post.

[civil]

I'll jump in with that joy of fitting into old (in my case new) clothes. I was a size 42 (44 if I was honest) and I remember buying my first size 38 pants - it was a fucking dream experience. I'm currently at a 33/34 and I went from XXL in shirts to S/M.

Fuck, if I can do it anyone can. I just wish, as many of you have, that I would have done this earlier in life. :(

[Purple Santa]

Damn.

Too short of a damn.
I'll add WOW to that damn. We say anything else it's just not polite :p
I'll jump in with that joy of fitting into old (in my case new) clothes. I was a size 42 (44 if I was honest) and I remember buying my first size 38 pants - it was a fucking dream experience. I'm currently at a 33/34 and I went from XXL in shirts to S/M.

Fuck, if I can do it anyone can. I just wish, as many of you have, that I would have done this earlier in life. :(

I never realized you were close to my size. I was a 42, XXL and now 34 M and getting close to 33 S/M.

[civil]

I never realized you were close to my size. I was a 42, XXL and now 34 M and getting close to 33 S/M.
We can have a clothes swapping party!

EDIT: I also think I'm starting to border on 33/32. I've got AIDS!

[H.Bogard]

Yeah yeah.
<pics>

You go girlfriend! How much did you lose? Kudos to ya, regardless!

[Kojak]

I um have a question since you guys seem to know what your talking about and all that and I guess its kind of the opposite of this thread, but just asking in case anyone has any ideas.

Now I'm pretty skinny, so much that I was actually trying to put on weight but something weird is going on with me at the moment and I'm getting tempted to see a doctor. Now as I said I want to put weight on, I don't think I'm fat...at all.

The last three days I haven't been able to have food at all. I just don't feel hungry and when I try to eat something it just comes back up. I think I might have to go to the doctors or something soon because its getting really weird. I've tried eating pasta, tried steak, and tried salad. So far I was close to being able to eat the salad. Will try fruit salad in the morning

Bah, I feel like an idiot.

[H.Bogard]

I um have a question since you guys seem to know what your talking about and all that and I guess its kind of the opposite of this thread, but just asking in case anyone has any ideas.

Now I'm pretty skinny, so much that I was actually trying to put on weight but something weird is going on with me at the moment and I'm getting tempted to see a doctor. Now as I said I want to put weight on, I don't think I'm fat...at all.

The last three days I haven't been able to have food at all. I just don't feel hungry and when I try to eat something it just comes back up. I think I might have to go to the doctors or something soon because its getting really weird. I've tried eating pasta, tried steak, and tried salad. So far I was close to being able to eat the salad. Will try fruit salad in the morning

Bah, I feel like an idiot.

A friend of mine had the same issue. He weighed at around 105lbs at 5'10 ish height. I had him sign up for my gym and after three weeks of weight lifting, his eating habits improved almost drastically and he gained 5lbs in that time.

Metabolism... make it your bitch. After a good workout, anything you eat for the next 4 hours will be processed into pure energy for your body. All muscle, no fat. Healthy weight gain.

[TurboKinny]

You go girlfriend! How much did you lose? Kudos to ya, regardless!Between those two pictures is about 25 pounds :)

[wyeast]

Good job! :)

foul hot temptress... *grumbles* :p :D

Me? Gone to the gym almost every day since Oct. Ain't lost shit. :mad:

[civil]

I um have a question since you guys seem to know what your talking about and all that and I guess its kind of the opposite of this thread, but just asking in case anyone has any ideas.

Now I'm pretty skinny, so much that I was actually trying to put on weight but something weird is going on with me at the moment and I'm getting tempted to see a doctor. Now as I said I want to put weight on, I don't think I'm fat...at all.

The last three days I haven't been able to have food at all. I just don't feel hungry and when I try to eat something it just comes back up. I think I might have to go to the doctors or something soon because its getting really weird. I've tried eating pasta, tried steak, and tried salad. So far I was close to being able to eat the salad. Will try fruit salad in the morning

Bah, I feel like an idiot.
N-bOuR9l_HY

[Vigil80]

Alright, I need to do this.

I suppose I have a stereotypical gamer's body. ~300 lbs., 6'5" tall. Lots of stretch marks, though I at least keep the neckbeard in check. I lead a sedentary lifestyle, and if it isn't killing me it's at least killing my confidence and self esteem. There's little joy for me in intimate moments with my girlfriend because I'm self-conscious and disgusted with myself.

I've always been at least on the husky side. I turn 25 this year, and I don't want my entire "young" life to pass me by as a fatty. I'd like to go to the beach and enjoy myself, experience being physically attractive, and maybe beat up a guy. (Who totally has it coming, of course.) :D

Two of my biggest obstacles to exercise and body building are that gyms are so damn boring, and I dislike floundering with machines and techniques without guidance. But personal trainers and activities which would be stimulating - such as sports teams or martial arts - are expensive.

My biggest obstacle to dieting is that the foods I know are best for me - such as broccoli :( - I never developed a taste for them. I realize that possibly the biggest factor to making a lifestyle change is sucking it up and making up one's mind, but I'd certainly appreciate tips from others who've already faced these things down.

I've seen P90X mentioned a time or two in here. What's the verdict on that? I've read enough to know that the muscle confusion concept isn't a total marketing line, and it looks almost fun. But I hesitate to spend $130 on anything advertised on television.

I have one or two things going for me, I suppose. I cut out regular soda a long time ago, but I probably drink too much diet. I also still have sweet tea pretty frequently. (It is the south.) I've never been a beer drinker. I try to keep water handy to swig on throughout the day.

[Karak]

Alright, I need to do this.

I suppose I have a stereotypical gamer's body. ~300 lbs., 6'5" tall. Lots of stretch marks, though I at least keep the neckbeard in check. I lead a sedentary lifestyle, and if it isn't killing me it's at least killing my confidence and self esteem. There's little joy for me in intimate moments with my girlfriend because I'm self-conscious and disgusted with myself.

I've always been at least on the husky side. I turn 25 this year, and I don't want my entire "young" life to pass me by as a fatty. I'd like to go to the beach and enjoy myself, experience being physically attractive, and maybe beat up a guy. (Who totally has it coming, of course.) :D

Two of my biggest obstacles to exercise and body building are that gyms are so damn boring, and I dislike floundering with machines and techniques without guidance. But personal trainers and activities which would be stimulating - such as sports teams or martial arts - are expensive.

My biggest obstacle to dieting is that the foods I know are best for me - such as broccoli :( - I never developed a taste for them. I realize that possibly the biggest factor to making a lifestyle change is sucking it up and making up one's mind, but I'd certainly appreciate tips from others who've already faced these things down.

I've seen P90X mentioned a time or two in here. What's the verdict on that? I've read enough to know that the muscle confusion concept isn't a total marketing line, and it looks almost fun. But I hesitate to spend $130 on anything advertised on television.
Stay away from P90x. It is not for people who are new to working out and even less for those who do not have the discipline for it yet.

For you I would simply start curbing amounts but not food. As stupid as it sounds, still have a burger but have 3/4's of one and try that for a month. Try NOT eating everything on the plate. Even if the amount you are cutting is small. This will help because high fat foods don't need to be curbed in large amounts at first because...they are high fat. A small curbing goes a long way.

As for working out. Walks man. Start them. Treadmill, start it. Something that gets you moving. I do my workouts RIGHT after work. To me its basically collecting the work and workout into one thing so that when I am done I don't feel bad for relaxing.
Try replacing 1 food you like for snacks with 1 healthier version each month. Yes month.
It takes a long time to change, no reason to rush it. Confidence comes in small amounts. Do this for 2 weeks then weigh yourself again. If changes have been made then continue on this until you do not drop weight. Then curb more.

I would not suggest joining a gym right now simply due to your attitude. Do some small changes and then wanting to join a gym or p90x will be more realistic for you.

EDIT: If you want workout ideas but don't have the ability to get guidance do push ups and situps.
Not alot. Try to do some when you get home. Count them and never ever do less. Do them every other day.
Each week add 1. This won't rock your world but situps will improve your core and pushups will increase your ability to push away from the dinner table:)

[Bone]

Body weight exercises are great, and free. Pushups, situps, pullups, lunges and squats can all be modified to work no matter what your strength level or weight. You should develop discipline before you spend money, in my opinion.

That said, my discipline still sucks, but I am not beating myself up over it. I just try to remember to do better tomorrow. Before you notice weight loss you will notice added confidence and energy and they go a long way towards making permanent changes.

[carnage11]

I started P90X last week. This will be week two. I may or may not come back here in 90 days and show my results. :p

I learned something from it already, which I thought was pretty interesting. Maybe it's common knowledge, but I didn't know. Don't eat 3 hours before you sleep. Sleeping is the easiest fat burning time. We don't need food when we sleep and when your body gets hungry it will start to burn through excess fat. So a good 8 hours of sleep can easily turn into a great 8 hours of fat burning. Doesn't get any easier than that. Of course for me, not eating before I go to bed is difficult as it's become a habit of mine. But I've been doing well the past 2 weeks. I've also cut almost all the salt out of my diet and I'm now counting calories and paying more attention to sodium content.

edit: I should mention, at the beginning of last week I was 6'1" (I don't expect that to change lol) and 185 lbs. I've got some chub on my belly that I really want to get rid of and for the most part I was pretty soft. This week I feel like my pants fit a little better and my body has gotten harder, especially my shoulders and arms. Dieting alone dropped me from 200 lbs to 185 lbs so the P90X is more or less for me to get in better shape, combined with dieting to make me healthier. We'll see how it goes. I do really miss beer and pizza though. :(

[Karak]

I started P90X last week. This will be week two. I may or may not come back here in 90 days and show my results. :p

I learned something from it already, which I thought was pretty interesting. Maybe it's common knowledge, but I didn't know. Don't eat 3 hours before you sleep. Sleeping is the easiest fat burning time. We don't need food when we sleep and when your body gets hungry it will start to burn through excess fat. So a good 8 hours of sleep can easily turn into a great 8 hours of fat burning. Doesn't get any easier than that. Of course for me, not eating before I go to bed is difficult as it's become a habit of mine. But I've been doing well the past 2 weeks. I've also cut almost all the salt out of my diet and I'm now counting calories and paying more attention to sodium content.

100% correct.
Also watch restricting salt content that can actually stop weight loss. Yes we get alot in our food but some need more than others and it can indeed cause issues.

Also if have trouble eating before sleep watch out with sleep meds, even stuff like PM meds over the counter. They have a known side effect to increase the munchies. Even Meletonin does.

[wyeast]

Also beware the dilemma of the gym. You can often gain muscle mass as fast or faster than you're losing fat. So weighing on the scales doesn't necessarily tell the tale. You may notice more energy / people remarking that you look thinner despite the scale mocking you. :mad: Still helps, even if you ain't losin' diddly like me. :( Cardio is cardio. I noticed a HUGE improvement compared to the first few days when the workout would beat my ass, now I'm turning up the difficulty settings and not really feeling it.

How do I keep entertained at the gym? TV. Or surfing on the cellphone. Sometimes I'm posting to you guys while trying to not fall off the elliptical. ;)

Flirting with the front desk girls helps, too. :D

[Borthcollective]

That said, my discipline still sucks, but I am not beating myself up over it. I just try to remember to do better tomorrow. Before you notice weight loss you will notice added confidence and energy and they go a long way towards making permanent changes.

Best bit of advice on here. I beat myself up constantly and it does not help my already poor self esteem.