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Shadowstorm
04-16-2009, 07:33 PM
Joel Tenenbaum (https://twitter.com/joelfightsback) is an individual who is being sued by the RIAA for downloading a total of seven songs from a p2p service. Let me post a brief quote from Joelfightsback.com (http://joelfightsback.com/about-the-case/):


In 2003, Joel received a notice accusing him of downloading music through the P2P service, and told him that he could settle the case for $3,500. He called the payment hotline, offered $500, and sent a money order in that amount. That offer was denied.

In 2007, a complaint showed up on his doorstep after years of silence requiring that Joel appear in court. Rather than backing down, like the other 30,000 people, Joel chose to stand his ground and elected to proceed pro se with the help of his mother.

Joel filed an answer with a counterclaim asserting abuse of federal power and that the excessive damages were unconstitutional. Joel appeared in court where the Judge ordered the parties into settlement.

In the settlement, Joel offered to settle for $5,000. The opposing counsel denied and counter-offered a settlement of $10,500 to be paid over 1 year. Joel declined.

That’s where Professor Charles Nesson and his team of passionate students come in.Now, Charles Nesson, who is the Professor of Law (at Harvard Law School), requested that the judge in Joel's case allow the court to stream the case on the Internet. The RIAA, naturally, does not want this to happen because (IMO), it would be a great tool of illumination to other interested parties, like academics, professors, etc. It would show just how the RIAA works in the courtroom - after all, they've had much practice with the previous 30,000 individuals they've sued (most of those settle. The average settlement range between $3,500 - $12,000 USD according to this site mentioned above, which is then used to sue more individuals, I suspect, and of course, not a dime ever goes to the artists whom they are supposedly representing).

Today, I learn through Ars that the appeals court has sided with the RIAA (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/04/appeals-court-no-webcast-for-joel-tenenbaum.ars): no streaming will be allowed:

We are mindful that good arguments can be made for and against the webcasting of civil cases. We are also mindful that emerging technologies eventually may change the way in which information—including information about court cases—historically has been imparted. Yet, this is not a case about free speech writ large, nor about the guaranty of a fair trial, nor about any cognizable constitutional right of public access to the courts. Our purview here is much more confined: this is a society dedicated to the rule of law; and if a controlling rule, properly interpreted, closes federal courtrooms in Massachusetts to broadcasting (whether over the air or via the Internet), we are bound to enforce that rule. In the last analysis, this boils down to a case about the governance of the federal courts.Adding,

"While the new technology characteristic of the Information Age may call for the replotting of some boundaries, the venerable right of members of the public to attend federal court proceedings is far removed from an imagined entitlement to view court proceedings remotely on a computer screen."Fucking cartel, I say. Ox, can you weigh in on this? What do you think?

I am sorely disappointed by this decision. Maybe one of the judges were bought? I'm not sure. I don't get their reasoning for not allowing a webcast of the trial.

Johan
04-16-2009, 07:35 PM
This news (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/03/obama-sides-wit.html) means we will see more RIAA extortion cases like this, too. Very sad. :(

Ox
04-16-2009, 08:21 PM
Fucking cartel, I say. Ox, can you weigh in on this? What do you think?

I am sorely disappointed by this decision. Maybe one of the judges were bought? I'm not sure. I don't get their reasoning for not allowing a webcast of the trial.
Okay, first thought: don't go around accusing federal judges of being "bought" simply because you don't understand the legal reasoning behind the decision. It's not a good idea, and it's frankly not a very nice thing to do.

Second, the appeals panel consisted of at least three judges, and they all voted to deny webcasting. So bribing just one wouldn't have resulted in this ruling, even under the frankly absurd theory that the only way a judge could have made this decision is for corrupt motives.

Third, federal law prohibits broadcasting proceedings from federal trial courtrooms in Massachusetts. I don't necessarily think this is a great rule, but it is a longstanding rule that is quite common in American courts, especially federal courts (I believe even reporters to the Supreme Court aren't allowed to bring tape recorders to argument, but must take notes by hand). Judges fear that the presence of cameras will encourage lawyers and witnesses to grandstand and make it more difficult to control the courtroom. It's not an unreasonable fear. They are also afraid that the presence of cameras will intimidate witnesses from being completely forthcoming, especially when called upon to testify about matters that are, frankly, often personally embarassing. I can definitely vouch that it's already hard enough to get a witness to testify about something embarassing to a room full of (often hostile) strangers, and having had to work in front of cameras before, I can add that they make any embarassment much more difficult to overcome even for arrogant pricks like me.

Here, the trial judge tried to interpret a court rule as including limitless discretion to ignore it and permit broadcasting. The appeals court (reasonably, in my view) concluded this was bollocks: although there are exceptions to the rule, they are limited and trial judges can't just ignore the rule at their whim. The law must be upheld, even if we might think it is amenable to modification, until the proper authorities consider it and deem it worthy of modification. You cannot, and must not, have individual trial judges running loose all over Creation making shit up as they go along. Even if that leads people to assuming that corruption is the only reason someone might rule for the RIAA in a limited matter.

Johan
04-16-2009, 08:23 PM
You cannot, and must not, have individual trial judges running loose all over Creation making shit up as they go along.

That's the job of the Ninth Circuit. :D

Shadowstorm
04-16-2009, 08:28 PM
Ox, I meant no disrespect :). It was not my intention to imply that the only way for this ruling to happen the way it did was that the judges were bought off.

However, I appreciate your clarity of mind and post. I feel like I learn something every time I read one of your comments :P.

Ox
04-16-2009, 08:42 PM
Hey, I understand. I realize you didn't mean to, but you inadvertently pressed one of my many oversensitive buttons. Sorry if I came on too strong. I just see so much of the whole, "If you didn't agree with me, you must be evil and corrupt!" every day.