Final Fantasy VII Available in PSN Store...In Japan [Archive]

DoctorFinger

04-13-2009, 06:49 AM

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Sony has announced that the seminal JRPG Final Fantasy VII is now available for the Playstation 3. That is to say a port of the PS1 original is available at the PSN Store. In Japan. Sorry if I got your hopes up.

The PSN title will run you ¥1500 ($15), which is nearly triple the cost of the average PS1 game ¥600 ($6). It's based on the International Version of the game, which folded the tweaks and fixes for the US version into the Japanese edition.

What are the chances of this hitting the US PSN Store? We don't really know at this point. The US PSN Store is absolutely barren when compared to the Japanese version, but a high profile release like this could be enough to force SCEA's hand. We'll let you know if and when an announcement is made.

Source - Wired (http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/04/classic-final-f.html)

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 06:52 AM

Doubtful. FFVII came out because of the release of Advent Children Complete in Japan. It'd be nice if it came out here, but the same could have been said about the original MGS when that hit the Japanese PSN around the time of MGS4, and we didn't get that either.

SCEA has been absolutely freakin' horrible about releaseing PS1 games on the PSN, even their own first party stuff. I makes no damn sense.

Goronmon

04-13-2009, 06:52 AM

Like pretty much every RPG I've ever started, I never got around to finishing that damn game.

menage

04-13-2009, 06:53 AM

15 bucks for a PS1 game?? Talking about fucking over the fans.

I still have mu original copy lying around, good for that.

Raen

04-13-2009, 06:56 AM

You may not have stuff as could as the Japanese store, but just be glad you don't live in Europe. Fucking SCEE.

Savok

04-13-2009, 06:59 AM

You may not have stuff as could as the Japanese store, but just be glad you don't live in Europe. Fucking SCEE.
I always picture SCEE as one room with an old school desk, only a phone and notepad on it.

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 06:59 AM

You may not have stuff as could as the Japanese store, but just be glad you don't live in Europe. Fucking SCEE.
Europe has been better than the US, actually. Check the store sometime, there have been more releases over there for PS1 games than over here in the US, at least recently.

DoctorFinger

04-13-2009, 07:06 AM

15 bucks for a PS1 game?? Talking about fucking over the fans.

I still have mu original copy lying around, good for that.Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.

Wilkz07

04-13-2009, 07:07 AM

i want to go to there.

DoctorFinger

04-13-2009, 07:08 AM

Europe has been better than the US, actually. Check the store sometime, there have been more releases over there for PS1 games than over here in the US, at least recently.Wiki has a list of PSOne classics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PSOne_Classics), and all PSN Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Network_games). It looks like the EU and US have about the same number of games, but still bubkis compared to the Japanese store.

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 07:16 AM

Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.
I still have 2 copies in mint condition, I've been thinking about that....Wiki has a list of PSOne classics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PSOne_Classics), and all PSN Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Network_games). It looks like the EU and US have about the same number of games, but still bubkis compared to the Japanese store.
They've been playing catch up, so that sounds about right, as most of theirs have been more recent.

Spigot

04-13-2009, 07:30 AM

LIke I said in the PSN update thread, I don't understand why SCEA doesn't really do a big push with this on the US PSN store. If they don't want to totally abandon the PSP, just pimp the PSP as the ONLY place you can play a legitimate portable version of FFVII. Hell, do a bundle that has Crisis Core and a coupon for FFVII on the PSN.

I don't claim to be a marketing genius or anything, but attaching FFVII to the PSP seems like a recipe to boost sales through the roof, as low as that roof might be.

TheFlyingOrc

04-13-2009, 07:31 AM

I don't understand Sony NA at all. What exactly do they have against printing money?

Chris_D

04-13-2009, 07:43 AM

TheFlyingOrc

04-13-2009, 07:47 AM

I'm not surprised that SquareEnix wants to charge a bit more for a high profile game like Final Fantasy 7. Their earlier Final Fantasies aren't on the Wii VC yet but I imagine they will also be at a higher price point.

They aren't coming, because Square knows they can remake them for pennies on the dollar and resell them for $40. They couldn't sell ANYTHING on the VC for that price.

Goronmon

04-13-2009, 07:47 AM

I don't understand Sony NA at all. What exactly do they have against printing money?They are too busy trying to figure out reasons to not lower the price of the PS3.

frederec

04-13-2009, 07:49 AM

Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.

At first I couldn't help but think "Wait, you're kidding. Isn't this one of the games that was available on Greatest Hits at $20 for years after the PS2 came out?" Looking more closely, it does appear that those high prices are just greedy people with their "buy it now" prices. Actual auctions are going for more reasonable (sub $40) prices.

Cyndair

04-13-2009, 07:53 AM

Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.

Huh... I figured it would be one of those games that you could get maybe 10 bucks for. Now I'm tempted to sell my copy.

Lon Lon Rabbit

04-13-2009, 07:58 AM

Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.

I have the crappy platinum edition, but it's signed by Nobuo Uematsu, wonder how much I could get for that...

Chris_D

04-13-2009, 08:06 AM

They aren't coming, because Square knows they can remake them for pennies on the dollar and resell them for $40. They couldn't sell ANYTHING on the VC for that price.

Actually they should be coming according to Wired (http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/03/final-fantasy-c.html):

SAN FRANCISCO -- Final Fantasy will be arriving on both Virtual Console and WiiWare.

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata made the announcement today at Game Developers Conference. This year, Square Enix will release two Final Fantasy games on WiiWare: My Life as a Darklord, the sequel to the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles entry My LIfe as a King, and Final Fantasy IV: The After Years, the sequel to the classic 16-bit game Final Fantasy IV.

Starting in May in Japan, the first six classic Final Fantasy titles will be released on Wii's Virtual Console service. In the U.S., said Iwata, the games that were actually released in the U.S. will come out here, too.

Iwata said Square Enix will give more details on these games later.

rein

04-13-2009, 08:09 AM

Count me in with the growing list of confused people as to why SCEA is not putting more A+ PS games on the PSN store. I would settle for more B rated games.

Spigot

04-13-2009, 08:13 AM

Chris, that's good news. I'm also interested in My Life As A Darklord, as I quite enjoyed MLAaK.

Johan

04-13-2009, 08:17 AM

I makes no damn sense.

You should work on that! :D

Couldn't resist.

Dukefrukem

04-13-2009, 09:04 AM

holy fucking shit. saw this on my RSS feed at work. had to login to post awesomness...

Philonious

04-13-2009, 09:14 AM

Does 'international' have the English script? Can't we just download from the Japanese store with a little creativity?

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 09:16 AM

Does 'international' have the English script? Can't we just download from the Japanese store with a little creativity?
You can downlaod it, but the International version just added all the content that they put into the US version plus a few extras, it's still all in Japanese.

TheEpicOfTyler

04-13-2009, 10:28 AM

Widgetcraft

04-13-2009, 11:18 AM

I was under the impression that everyone on earth had a copy of this game. I bought one a few years ago sealed for $20 after a friend lost a disc of my other copy.

EDIT: Actually, if they patched analog controls into the game, I would buy it.

Yeah, and it isn't as if it is hard to rip the game and turn it into a working eboot. You can even add some nice graphics for the PSP's menu. It'd take you all of one hour to have it up and running on your PSP, assuming you had a legit copy laying around (and pretty much everyone does).

pronounconnoun

04-13-2009, 11:37 AM

Yeah, and it isn't as if it is hard to rip the game and turn it into a working eboot. You can even add some nice graphics for the PSP's menu. It'd take you all of one hour to have it up and running on your PSP, assuming you had a legit copy laying around (and pretty much everyone does).

How?...I mean, a dumb friend of mine would like to know. He's not very tech savvy like us :o

Wackman3000

04-13-2009, 11:40 AM

Keep going Square.... You made the first step and brought FFVII to the PSN, now all I need is the PS3 remake.

violent

04-13-2009, 11:42 AM

How?...I mean, a dumb friend of mine would like to know. He's not very tech savvy like us :o

You need custom firmware. If you ain't got it, it ain't happening. Question is, what model and firmware are you running right now?

frederec

04-13-2009, 11:55 AM

You need custom firmware. If you ain't got it, it ain't happening. Question is, what model and firmware are you running right now?

Yeah, if you've got a fat or an early model slim, you're good. If your PSP is too new, it may not be hackable. I've got a pandora's battery and magic memory stick that I have been known to pass around. But I've got to admit, some of the recent PSP's people have brought to me trying to hack have been a no-go because they're too new.

Once you've got the custom firmware, you rip the PSX game to your computer, and use these various programs to link it together into one nice huge eboot (for multi-disc games, it gets pretty massive). You can then run the game on your PSP. I've done this successfully for things like Persona 2: Eternal Punishmen, the English fan translation of Persona 2: Innocent Sin, Xenogears, Dragon Warrior VII, Chocobo's Dungeon, and a few others.

Be warned, though, that some PSX games require some finagling with firmwares to get it to work.

violent

04-13-2009, 11:58 AM

I've been thinking of re-hacking my PSP. I have an early slim on 5.03 at the moment. Rumor has it pandora works on mine, I've just been trying to get a hold of one.

pronounconnoun

04-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Yeah, sounds like I'm out of luck. My PSP is about a year old.

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 12:26 PM

menage

04-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Dude, sell it on eBay (http://catalog.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII_711719416326_W0QQ_fifptsZ1QQ_mdoZVideoQ2dGames QQ_pcategidZ1249QQ_pcatidZ2QQ_pidZ2434QQ_trksidZp3 286Q2ec0Q2em271). You can get $75-$100 for it.

Mmm, tempting, since I never use it anyway (who has time to replay a 80 hour epic nowadays:P), but I swore I would never sell or get rid of another game again after some terrible mistakes in the past. I just treasure some stuff too much and still pop it in once in a blue moon for pure nostalgia.

Still, it's always good to know it's worth money when I hit rock bottom someday:D

frederec

04-13-2009, 12:31 PM

I looked into it a bit, and it looks like all the PS1 FFs run with some rather serious issues on the PSP (crash bugs, etc...). I know some games run great, like Dragon Warrior VII, but I never bothered with the FF games.

Then again, I haven't been able to get PS1 games to run ever since 5.0, it messed up something with it that I haven't been able to fix.

This page (http://www.gamerspress.com/index.php?title=PSX_on_PSP_Compatibility_List) is lots of help for getting PSX games working on the PSP. And yeah, the FF games seem to be the hardest to get working properly. But it looks like the most recent custom firmware plays nicely with FFVII.

And what's been your trouble, Gorvi? I'm running the newest M33 firmware, and like I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm playing P2:Innocent Sin just fine at the moment. If you have popsloader on it, you may need to clean it out and reinstall. Not sure.

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 12:33 PM

This page (http://www.gamerspress.com/index.php?title=PSX_on_PSP_Compatibility_List) is lots of help for getting PSX games working on the PSP. And yeah, the FF games seem to be the hardest to get working properly. But it looks like the most recent custom firmware plays nicely with FFVII.
Yeah, that list is what I was using when I would decide what to even bother ripping from my collection. If I could still get PS1 games to work I'd give it a try, but first I need to actually find out why they won't run. I think it was a known issue with CFW 5.0, but I never dug any deeper into it.
And what's been your trouble, Gorvi? I'm running the newest M33 firmware, and like I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm playing P2:Innocent Sin just fine at the moment. If you have popsloader on it, you may need to clean it out and reinstall. Not sure
I'm wouldn't know how to even do that. If you've got that info, a PM would be much appreciated. :)

Deadend

04-13-2009, 12:35 PM

If they put it on the US store, they better do a retranslation, as the text is HORRIBLE in FF7.

johnperkins21

04-13-2009, 01:07 PM

Yeah, sounds like my friend is out of luck. My PSP is about a year old.

Fixed that for you. :p

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 01:14 PM

If they put it on the US store, they better do a retranslation, as the text is HORRIBLE in FF7.
Doubtful. And while it was flawed, FFVII's translation really wasn't all that bad. It was done at a point when they really were getting a lot better than they had been.

pronounconnoun

04-13-2009, 01:26 PM

Fixed that for you. :p

Uhh, yeah. That's what I meant to say.

Goronmon

04-13-2009, 01:45 PM

How?...I mean, a dumb friend of mine would like to know. He's not very tech savvy like us :oYou're not the only one. All I've read about modding handhelds makes it seems like it's a good way for me to brick a PSP.

Widgetcraft

04-13-2009, 01:51 PM

You're not the only one. All I've read about modding handhelds makes it seems like it's a good way for me to brick a PSP.

Totally worth it though, I love my modded PSP. My DS gathers dust these days, but my PSP is always with me.

frederec

04-13-2009, 01:59 PM

You're not the only one. All I've read about modding handhelds makes it seems like it's a good way for me to brick a PSP.

It's not that easy to brick your PSP these days, especially ever since Pandora's Battery was developed. I've hacked over a dozen different PSP's in the past couple of years. The only issues I've ever had were with the couple of PSP's that were unhackable because they were too new. And trying to hack them didn't brick them.

And if you brick a modded PSP, that's what Pandora's Battery was originally designed for: unbricking.

Xerxes

04-13-2009, 06:03 PM

I'm almost tempted to get myself a back up psp phat.

frederec is the best. :)

Oh, and Sony and Square-Enix are doing the PSN store a disservice. They have tons of ps1 games I'd like to have on my psp at reasonable prices. I ended up buying some ps1 games for remote play. But ripping them straight to the system is so much better.

Spigot

04-13-2009, 06:08 PM

That's just it. People are finding ways to work around the system as it is. Why not give them what they want, make it legit and let them pay you a few bucks for the service?

Xerxes

04-13-2009, 06:11 PM

That's just it. People are finding ways to work around the system as it is. Why not give them what they want, make it legit and let them pay you a few bucks for the service?

Sony wants to deter a few pushing them into the option Sony doesn't endorse or want instead of giving what the masses would rather.

Banacek

04-13-2009, 06:29 PM

Totally worth it though, I love my modded PSP. My DS gathers dust these days, but my PSP is always with me.

Hell yeah it does. Portable Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross, and FFVII? Sure!

Church42

04-13-2009, 07:51 PM

Banacek

04-13-2009, 07:56 PM

So glad I kept my PS copy of FFVII...actually been playing it the last few weekends (on the early stages of disc 2).

If Sony remade the game for current gen graphics, I'd be all over that, but for now, my original copy will have to do.

I'm going to have to see if FFIX is playable on the PSP. It might be time for a replay. Ozma needs to go down again.

Dukefrukem

04-13-2009, 07:59 PM

Doubtful. And while it was flawed, FFVII's translation really wasn't all that bad. It was done at a point when they really were getting a lot better than they had been.

Does anyone have an original copy of the PS1 game? They fucked up the translation on the back of the box! Not to mention in all the fuck ups in the official strategy guide.

Xerxes

04-13-2009, 08:01 PM

PS1 graphics and PSP fits just fine to me. I think i should dig up Blood Omen 1.

Gorvi

04-13-2009, 08:02 PM

Does anyone have an original copy of the PS1 game? They fucked up the translation on the back of the box! Not to mention in all the fuck ups in the official strategy guide.
Ok, you made me go look, and I didn't see it. What's wrong on the back of the box?

frederec

04-14-2009, 05:59 AM

I'm going to have to see if FFIX is playable on the PSP. It might be time for a replay. Ozma needs to go down again.

Yes, it is. My wife played a fair chunk of it. We even transferred our old save from the PS1 to the PSP (through the PS3).

Does anyone have an original copy of the PS1 game? They fucked up the translation on the back of the box! Not to mention in all the fuck ups in the official strategy guide.

I've got that original strategy guide. The one that only mentions gold chocobos, but doesn't tell you how to get them at all. I've got lots of handwritten notes stuffed in that one. At least it's not as bad as the FFIX strategy guide, where it was incomplete on purpose.