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Smoof
02-03-2009, 02:07 PM
So my friends and I recently started playing the Everquest RPG which uses the 3.0 rules of D&D with some modifications. Anyway, I'm not all that familiar with spellcasting in third edition and I've been looking absolutely everywhere to find this out. So, can spells crit? I recognize that in order for a spell to be cast, the creature must roll its save against the spell instead of the caster rolling his spell. So, if the creature rolls a 1 or something, does the spell crit? If it does, what's the multiplier?

Ancalagon
02-03-2009, 02:24 PM
As far as I know, spells never crit. Crits only apply to physical attacks, and usually happen on 19-20 rolls, depending on the weapon and feats.

EDIT: Note that this is from my experience playing the CRPGs, have never played PnP.

Panthera
02-03-2009, 02:26 PM
That's a great place to put some house rules, but yeah, it's only saving throws that determine if the damage is normal or halfed (which can be thought of as doubled or normal, if you want to.)

BigJonno
02-03-2009, 02:28 PM
Nope, spells don't crit.

J Arcane
02-03-2009, 02:31 PM
A spell can only crit if it has to roll to hit. Ranged touch and touch attacks and spells have a crit rating of 20/x2.

Healing spells cannot crit despite being touch because they're not actually attacks, though you might rule one an attack if using it on an undead or similar negative energy creature.

Smoof
02-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Alrighty, much thanks.

BigJonno
02-03-2009, 03:56 PM
A spell can only crit if it has to roll to hit. Ranged touch and touch attacks and spells have a crit rating of 20/x2.

Healing spells cannot crit despite being touch because they're not actually attacks, though you might rule one an attack if using it on an undead or similar negative energy creature.

Try telling that to one of the guys I used to play with. I one-shotted his uber undead bad guy with a Heal. I think the idea of a crit would actually kill him.

Ghostbear
02-03-2009, 04:07 PM
J arcane is right. Anything that requires you to roll an attack can crit. otherwise it has a saving throw. (though in some cases both apply)

zarathstra
02-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Try telling that to one of the guys I used to play with. I one-shotted his uber undead bad guy with a Heal. I think the idea of a crit would actually kill him.

I think undead are immune to crits anyway.

xoanon
02-04-2009, 02:16 PM
Ghostbear and J Arcane are correct.

Additionally, if you roll a 1 on your saving throw you automatically fail and other bad stuff can happen to you: http://bit.ly/criticalsavefailure

That's for 3.5, but it's fun.

Virtual Machine
02-05-2009, 02:48 PM
And if i recall correctly, Undeads are immune to crits - like Zarathstra has said. we've been playing that way since 2nd edition at any rate.