Fighting Games: Still holding the Interest? [Archive]

Dark Prince

10-03-2008, 09:03 PM

So how many here are still big fighting game fans? Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter....Soul Calibur...etc, still into them? Are you the person that can pull off the big 20 hit combo and kick the crap out of someone, or just that casual fan that plays them every now and then with friends to get int he competition mode?

Lately I've fallen off the ladder as far as fighting games go. I thought Soul Calibur 4 would get me back into it, but maybe its just not my type of game anymore.

I certainly need something like a new Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat to keep me in the loop, which luckily are all coming out this year.

Xerxes

10-03-2008, 09:06 PM

Food Nipple

10-03-2008, 09:11 PM

I still play Soul Calibur IV, I was never into Street Fighter very much, but I'll probably check out the new one.

Xerxes

10-03-2008, 09:12 PM

I still play Soul Calibur IV, I was never into Street Fighter very much, but I'll probably check out the new one.

Which one, HD or 4?

Troggles

10-03-2008, 09:18 PM

I used to be huge into fighting games. Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Tekken, Soul Calibur, etc. Now the only fighting game I buy regularly is the Soul Calibur series, and usually more for the fun extras that are included in the game besides the core fighting.

I guess I left Dead or Alive out of that mix. I have just recently begun with that series, starting with 3.

pomeroy

10-03-2008, 09:19 PM

Q: Still holding the Interest?

A: Not really.

Scaryfaced

10-03-2008, 09:21 PM

I'm an admitted Fighting game addict, but there's been very little to hold my interest lately. I don't know why, but the huge advances in 3d fighters has kinda turned me off to fighting games. I can't articulate why, just that they don't spark the same interest as 2d fighters. I honestly haven't even bothered with the new Soul Calibur. I'm hoping the new Street Fighter or MK will pull me back in, but until then, I'll stick with Campcom vs SNK on my beat up xbox.
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Seconds Out

10-03-2008, 09:21 PM

I think fighting games are the only genre that hasnt evolved from button mashing. With the exception of Fight Night and Knockout Kings, I've never had any interest in them.

quidmonkey

10-03-2008, 09:25 PM

Still playing SC4 & SSBB

Doctor Setebos

10-03-2008, 09:30 PM

Once I got Mario Kart, I shelved Brawl, and I haven't gone back to it since April.

Xerxes

10-03-2008, 09:32 PM

I think fighting games are the only genre that hasnt evolved from button mashing. With the exception of Fight Night and Knockout Kings, I've never had any interest in them.

Pfft. Let me catch a button smasher on them sticks. :rolleyes:

astranoir

10-04-2008, 01:54 AM

I find that I'll play Soul Calibur IV, but only every once in a while if friends are visiting, and not every day like when we first bought it.

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 02:06 AM

Honestly I lost interest a long time ago because far worse than any other genre, it seems the fighting game genre is determined to simply make the same game over and over again, with only the slightest of variations that only the hardcore obsessive types will ever even notice.

The few that catch my interest are the ones that do something wholly different, like Def Jam NY or Bushido Blade 2. Otherwise it just seems more often than not like I may as well just play Tekken or SFII, same difference really.

JRR006

10-04-2008, 02:14 AM

I liked fighting games in the 2D era. Once they made the jump to 3D I... guess I just couldn't keep up. I still intend to pick up Soul Calibur IV at some point. The character creation looks awesome from the "best of" lists I've seen around. I'm gonna try to make Oscar Wilde.

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 02:30 AM

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 02:33 AM

Def Jam NY was a gem. I'm still holding for another Tobal. :(
Oh, and Power Stone. That game was awesome. Even if it was spamtastic and mostly down to luck.

pomeroy

10-04-2008, 02:36 AM

Oh, and Power Stone. That game was awesome. Even if it was spamtastic and mostly down to luck.

Sweet god, Powerstone was awesome.

Dreamcast love.

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 02:53 AM

I would really like folks to try and break the Street Fighter formula from time to time.

pomeroy

10-04-2008, 03:12 AM

I think fighting games are the only genre that hasnt evolved from button mashing. With the exception of Fight Night and Knockout Kings, I've never had any interest in them.

Damn, I love the Fight Night series (I just saw this post, btw...don't know how I missed it). The analog controls were pretty damn sweet and changed how the game was played for the better.

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 03:34 AM

Damn, I love the Fight Night series (I just saw this post, btw...don't know how I missed it). The analog controls were pretty damn sweet and changed how the game was played for the better.

Yeah but they totally suck ass for a game about hip hoppers battling it out for street cred. Yeah, I'm dissing you Def Jam: Icon. :mad:

Lekon

10-04-2008, 03:39 AM

Yeah but they totally suck ass for a game about hip hoppers battling it out for street cred. Yeah, I'm dissing you Def Jam: Icon. :mad:

I was so psyched up for Def Jam Icon too. Def Jam Fight for New York's one of the best fighting games out there. It was just amazing all around... then Icon comes out.. what the hell happened to it?

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 03:46 AM

I was so psyched up for Def Jam Icon too. Def Jam Fight for New York's one of the best fighting games out there. It was just amazing all around... then Icon comes out.. what the hell happened to it?

Kudo Tsunoda... fucking ass face.
has stated that he did not feel that wrestling and hip-hop went particularly well with each other.

If you seen him interview he's looks sounds an ass face who doesn't get it. Getting rid of AKI was stupid on EA's part.

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 12:29 PM

I was so psyched up for Def Jam Icon too. Def Jam Fight for New York's one of the best fighting games out there. It was just amazing all around... then Icon comes out.. what the hell happened to it?
EA canned AKI, the developers of the previous two Def Jam games, as well as the fantastic No Mercy for the N64.

Fucking idiots.

Lon Lon Rabbit

10-04-2008, 12:31 PM

I'm trying to put up a thread right now to get some Smash Bros Brawl games going, but I'm getting server errors... Will keep trying, anyone interested look out for it in the matchmaking forum.

Doctor Setebos

10-04-2008, 12:33 PM

I'm trying to put up a thread right now to get some Smash Bros Brawl games going, but I'm getting server errors... Will keep trying, anyone interested look out for it in the matchmaking forum.Ha! Funny you should mention that. I'm trying to reply to your PM and I keep getting errors, myself. Pheriannath said the server's hiccuping this morning, and to hang on and try in a bit.

Troggles

10-04-2008, 12:33 PM

Oh, and Power Stone. That game was awesome. Even if it was spamtastic and mostly down to luck.

I don't usually quote for truth, but this just needs to be ingrained. Powerstone was so awesome, and I wish they would continue the series.

DiBiddilyBop

10-04-2008, 12:35 PM

I'm still very into SC4 (my first SC game, actually), but I'm looking forward to KoF12 and Street Fighter 4. Maybe Tekken 6, although I think that series has been going downhill since TTT. I never liked MK that much after I grew up and realized it was a kind of crappy fighting game with fatalities.

Doctor Setebos

10-04-2008, 12:37 PM

I don't usually quote for truth, but this just needs to be ingrained. Powerstone was so awesome, and I wish they would continue the series.After all the fan-service and re-inventions Capcom has been pushing lately -- Mega Man, Street Fighter, Bionic Commando -- it wouldn't surprise me if they revived Powerstone.

Which begs the question: was the PSP version a remake of the original game, or was it completely new?

Lekon

10-04-2008, 12:37 PM

EA canned AKI, the developers of the previous two Def Jam games, as well as the fantastic No Mercy for the N64.

Fucking idiots.

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Now that I look back I see that AKI made a bunch of other games I dug, and they had that same sort of system to them.

Certainly explains a lot, except for the most obvious: Why, if you have two games that do well and play awesomely, would you switch dev houses?

shodan2020

10-04-2008, 12:40 PM

I love fighting games. Right now it's a toss up between DOA4 and VF 5 Online. I'd play more VF5, but my disc seems to be scratched and I can never get in more than a few rounds before my 360 wants me to clean the disc and won't let me save my progress in Quest mode.

DOA4 is just great, fun to look at and the counter system and tag matches are awesome. The only complaint with DOA4 is the really cheap last boss. She has a throw that can take off half your health and her 10 string combos are almost impossible to counter or successfully block... plus she teleports.

I do need to purchase Soulcalibur 4 though. I have 1 (Dreamcast) and 2 (Xbox).. I'd love to play 4 for the customizability of fighters and kicking ass as Seung Mina. :)

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 12:40 PM

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Now that I look back I see that AKI made a bunch of other games I dug, and they had that same sort of system to them.

Certainly explains a lot, except for the most obvious: Why, if you have two games that do well and play awesomely, would you switch dev houses?
Because it's EA, and they're idiots.

IIRC the excuse was something to the effect of them not wanting to let a third party develop it anymore or some crap.

SPBTooL

10-04-2008, 12:58 PM

I am not into them as much as I used to be. I would still play the newest Virtual Fighter and Soul Caliber a decent amount if I had them. But they are not something I put on my purchase list. Maybe if I ever get extra money again.

Zabyx

10-04-2008, 01:09 PM

Once I got Mario Kart, I shelved Brawl, and I haven't gone back to it since April.

Basically my views on fighting games, sans the fact that I don't own Mario Cart. I haven't played any fighting games in... six months, I think, except for the occasional DoA4 match with some friends.

Scratch that, I got a very cheap copy of VF5 awhile back. Good game...

I wanted to play SF4 at Comic Con badly, but the line always seemed too long.

So, yeah, don't really hold interest in them anymore. It's funny, though. I seem to be the only one who thinks a Castlevania fighter (done right, mind you) wouldn't be that dumb an idea. I might also check out the new Kombat out of fanboyishness (for DC).

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 02:05 PM

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Now that I look back I see that AKI made a bunch of other games I dug, and they had that same sort of system to them.

Certainly explains a lot, except for the most obvious: Why, if you have two games that do well and play awesomely, would you switch dev houses?

They really should give it another go and bring back AKI.

Ghost Rider

10-04-2008, 02:13 PM

I've always been a Tekken fan, but due Tekken 6 being so long away I picked up SC4. It didn't suit me as well as Tekken though, I kind of feel bad hitting someone with a weapon, it just doesn't seem fair.

It's nice to have it in the collection though, but I can't wait till Tekken's back.

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 02:24 PM

They really should give it another go and bring back AKI.
Word. Fight for NY was quite simply one of the best fighting games ever made, why you'd follow that up with a piece of shit I still don't understand, but as I said, it's EA, and they aren't known for sense when it comes to matters of quality.

Xerxes

10-04-2008, 02:33 PM

Word. Fight for NY was quite simply one of the best fighting games ever made, why you'd follow that up with a piece of shit I still don't understand, but as I said, it's EA, and they aren't known for sense when it comes to matters of quality.

Didn't you here. There is high quality standards over there now. They stopped C&C Tiberium from being finished. :rolleyes:

J Arcane

10-04-2008, 02:35 PM

Didn't you here. There is high quality standards over there now. They stopped C&C Tiberium from being finished. :rolleyes:
Well, in all fairness man, it's not like the last C&C FPS did terribly well.

Dave

10-04-2008, 03:33 PM

And here I thought I was the only AKI nerd around. =)

Nice to know that I'm not alone out there. Any idea what AKI is up to now... because, a Ring of Honor game (produced by AKI, using the WCW/WWF/Def Jam engine) would be pretty outstanding.

Hell, even if they just did another Def Jam game using the FFNY engine it would rock. I mean, did anyone play FFNY and NOT like it? It had the AKI engine AND Henry Rollins... it doesn't get much cooler than that. The stage fatalities, like the subway and the fight with Snoop Dogg (where you have to throw him out the window) were pretty awesome too.

Slack3r78

10-04-2008, 03:53 PM

DJ:FFNY is the only fighting game I have ever really truly enjoyed.

Purple Santa

10-04-2008, 04:13 PM

I'm sure I don't belong in this thread but wtf...I never got into the genre. I've tried but the fun never lasted for me. True, I really suck at them...that doesn't help...but i'm not great at FPS or shooters in general but i'll go and play some that are above the usual. Maybe that's with the fighting genre...nothing beyond the usual...well from my perspective...

Fubl

10-04-2008, 06:04 PM

After all the fan-service and re-inventions Capcom has been pushing lately -- Mega Man, Street Fighter, Bionic Commando -- it wouldn't surprise me if they revived Powerstone.

Which begs the question: was the PSP version a remake of the original game, or was it completely new?

the psp version was both of them on one disk if remeber correctly. I miss the fight night series and Def jam series. ICON was horrible controls made no sense you had no clue what you were suppose to do. Graphics looked like complete crap also. Bring back the 2ds i have never been a big fan of the 3d fighters. Or capcom give us another Vs game.

McPhail

10-04-2008, 08:57 PM

I still enjoy playing fighting games (it's my favourite genre) but I'm also in the camp that prefers the 2D variety over the 3D games...not that they're without their charm, particularly the Soul Caliber and VF series.

One game that I've really been enjoying lately is Battle Fantasia. It's made by Arc System Works, the same guys that make the Guilty Gear series and it's in the same 2.5D style as SF4.

quidmonkey

10-05-2008, 02:15 AM

DJ:FFNY is the only fighting game I have ever really truly enjoyed.

Ahh, the mind of an alcoholic ;)

The more I play of it, the more I become convinced that SC4 is not very good. Gimme my SC3.

mister slim

10-05-2008, 02:32 AM

Because it's EA, and they're idiots.

IIRC the excuse was something to the effect of them not wanting to let a third party develop it anymore or some crap.

I think it was more Tsunoda trying to justify building out his studio more. EA Chicago was shutdown earlier this year, by the way.

Xerxes

10-05-2008, 02:49 AM

I think it was more Tsunoda trying to justify building out his studio more. EA Chicago was shutdown earlier this year, by the way.

It's ok though... Microsoft let him dock is fail boat in their offices somewhere. :mad:

andru

10-05-2008, 02:26 PM

I think my interest in fighting games has actually grown this gen actually, after seeing the hype for Street Fighter 4 (and getting Soul Calibur 4 earlier).

I'm not particularly great at them (much better at shooters) but I've always appreciated and enjoyed them for their mind games, even if I lost. Speaking of which, I just impulse bought Battle Fantasia (saw it referenced earlier here) and Virtua Fighter 5 for 360, so if anyone feels like schooling me, add me up. :D

Ps. From people who have it, what is going ON with Battle Fantasia? I should've expected such weirdness coming from the creators of Guilty Gear, and I'm having a blast with the colourful visuals, but man, I'm getting my ass handed to me by this bunny named Watson (AND I picked the crazy imposing black knight wannabe from Holy Grail, couldn't have made the scene anymore hilarious).

Commissar Rob

10-06-2008, 07:32 AM

What I enjoy most about fighting games is that they can easily be a quick gaming fix (particularly Tekken on the PSP) when you don't have/don't want to put hours into something more involved.

I'm like Andru though, I'm not particularly good (especially at Street Fighter. Judas, I can't even pull off a Hadoken with any reliability...let alone a flying dragon kick...) but I love figuring out a player I'm good at and learning a combo or two.

Heretic Machine

10-06-2008, 08:07 AM

The traditional dial-a-fireball fighters haven't been fun for me for a while. They get my thumbs tired pretty quickly, these days. Most 3D fighters are just lame all around. I like Smash Bros. quite a bit, and wish the genre would move more into it's direction. 2D gameplay, lots of fast movement, and a standardized set of controls across all characters; no move lists needed.

Deadend

10-06-2008, 08:35 AM

I tried to play Battle Fantasia, but the game had a brutal difficulty curve, had nothing that showed me the quirks of it's action, had sloppy feeling control,s was nearly impossible to pull off any moves due the way It read inputs and needed moves done FAST and going slightly over horizontal counts as a jump. The game may be good, but you need a stick to find out.

I like Soul Caliber 4 alot, even though it's nearly impossible to bust out some of the moves, as hitting X+B or Y+A at the same time is really really hard to do! I find the game to be fun, tactical and the moveset layout has an internal logic that makes changing characters easier. Not that everyone has the same moves, but generally if you hit -> + Attack, it's a faster low damage move and <- and attack is slower but stronger, hitting Y+B moves tends to be longer and lots of them are stance changes, X+Y moves tend to be the firemoves... most importantly, most of the inputs can be done with an analog stick... not all of them, but a good majority of the moves can be pulled off on a regular controller.

andru

10-06-2008, 08:40 AM

Oh I absolutely love Brawl, no doubt about it. But I didn't bring my Wii over here during grad school so I'm mostly relying on my 360 for now.

That said, I'm really liking Virtua Fighter 5 so I disagree on 3D fighters being lame. Something about it feels more like playing Fight Night or just boxing in general where the trick is to anticipate your opponent's movements - it just feels stronger than Soul calibur 4 at this point. Which, now that I think about it, makes it seem like Smash Bros., but at the same time the moves feel like another layer of depth to go through, instead of the focus on standardized move sets in Smash.

What I like particularly about Smash is the fact that the removal of trying to remember different button combinations puts the focus on strategy with what you do work with, yet there's that subtle Nintendo polish that gives you further variance if you put your mind to it.

andru

10-06-2008, 08:42 AM

I like Soul Caliber 4 alot, even though it's nearly impossible to bust out some of the moves, as hitting X+B or Y+A at the same time is really really hard to do! I find the game to be fun, tactical and the moveset layout has an internal logic that makes changing characters easier.

Spot on. I think right now though I just find it too similar to Soul Calibur 2 right now to really appreciate it again.

Mashidar

10-06-2008, 09:05 AM

After buying the Hori fighting stick all the fighting games became fun again. Playing SFII on Xbox live was a pain with the controller. But after plugging in the fighting stick my game improved to the point of not losing every round. Also it made SCIV better overall for me. I look forward to SFIV now as well as the remastered title coming to Xbox Live sometime in the future.

andru

10-06-2008, 09:18 AM

So I take it the Hori stick is good? I was on the fence with it.

Mashidar

10-06-2008, 09:24 AM

So I take it the Hori stick is good? I was on the fence with it.

I think it's worth the money I paid for it. It's the first controller that made me feel like I was using an arcade controller again.

It's big though, bigger than the old NES Advantage controller even, but I'm glad I picked it up. Like I said before it improved my game though and anything is better than the 360 D-pad.

j0hnz3r

10-06-2008, 09:52 AM

Xerxes

10-06-2008, 10:05 AM

I have a Hori stick. I hate the clicking.

TheKeck

10-06-2008, 10:19 AM

I was never a fighting game fan. :(

Inspector Fowler

10-06-2008, 10:28 AM

I say this every time, so please bear with me:

Where the hell is my Bushido Blade? I know it wasn't a perfect game, but it was awesome. One hit kills, crippling blows, a block button that had to be timed or it didn't do anything.

Bring that back, add in some RPG elements like the sequels tried to do, and I'm sold.

Alternatively, a realistic fist fighting game would get my attention. I've got my eye on the upcoming UFC title. I just hate life bars, you know? A good solid kick to the temple should knock somebody the hell out. Breaking their arm should end the fight. But in most fighting games, it's just part of a combo. Bleh. Booooring. I'll be curious to see if they live up to the stuff they're putting in their previews.

roboninja

10-06-2008, 10:34 AM

I am not the kind to learn 20-move combos in fighting games, but I never have been. I enjoy them as games to pop in when friends are over, so I enjoy the less technical fighters, with Soul Calibur IV being the current fav.

Wraith

10-06-2008, 10:42 AM

No mention of BlazBlue in this thread yet?

http://jaredrea.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/2rmqt09.jpg

http://media.ign.com/games/image/article/866/866110/blazblue-20080411024255717.jpg

I don't know that there's a confirmed released date, but it's supposedly coming to consoles next year.

Zero

10-06-2008, 10:45 AM

I mean, did anyone play FFNY and NOT like it?

Me. I very much so dislike it. I played the absolute shit outta Vendetta, but I detested the changes they made for FFNY.

andru

10-06-2008, 10:50 AM

Wow, that Blazblue looks crazy! Reminds me of the new KoF.

Tayaya

10-06-2008, 01:51 PM

Wow, that Blazblue looks crazy! Reminds me of the new KoF.

The animations in the new King of Fighters game are off the chain... I REALLY can't wait for a home version of that. KoF is a lot better than people give it credit for, and the new one, now that the visuals are super clean and "more modern" should help the series reclaim a throne on the peaks of Fighter Mountain.

quidmonkey

10-06-2008, 02:18 PM

**Ahem** (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=555)

Xerxes

10-06-2008, 04:06 PM

Hmm, playing a fight game on the wii? I already put it in the living room for guests.

j0hnz3r

10-06-2008, 05:22 PM

Wow, that Blazblue looks crazy! Reminds me of the new KoF.

It has more in common with Guilty Gear XX, having been made by the same people and all, and it looking damn near exactly the same.

...I honestly think the guys at Arc System Works decided they just couldn't make a Guilty Gear where Sol Badguy wasn't overpowered, so they said fuck it and started a whole new IP.

andru

10-06-2008, 06:55 PM

I'll be honest, up until you mentioned that Guilty Gear actually had a story, I had just pictured it as a wild collage of crazy differing themes with no real connection. My exposure to that series has only been with Guilty Gear X when it first came out on the DC.

That said, what I meant was that the graphics of Blazblue looked similar to KoF's art style at first glance (not its art direction).

So what's the new IP about then? I didn't even know the Guilty Gear story was trapped in a Matrix-Neo-Superman conundrum.

PanicBomb!

10-06-2008, 07:56 PM

Fighting games? Oh a very emphatic "Fuck yea!". Of course, I've been lucky enough to live in one of a dozen cities left with a very active arcade/fighting game scene. I know the scene and the people and I wouldn't trade them for anything. I think that's really the key. Fighting games aren't the same unless you have face time with your opponents, and since arcades are nearly non-existent, fighting games are a niche genre.

Agreed.

My dad was in the Navy, so I spent a good 6 years living in Japan during the height of Street Fighter 2 multi-edition madness. Street Fighter, Art of Fighting, King of Fighters, Fatal Fury, Samurai Showdown, Muscle Bomber, if you couldn't hold your own at at least one of those during lunch hour and after school, you weren't shit. I used to love those games, buying Japanese strategy guides and practicing my ass off on the console ports. I remember people getting in literal fist fights over whether the SNES or Genesis version was more faithful to the OG(because one had blue shadows, and one had black shadows. The difference is the most crucial fucking thing in the universe you know.). When I got back to the states and there was no arcade scene, it was really hard to keep interested. I still buy almost everything, Soul Calibur, DoA etc., but none of them have much longevity without a person sitting across from me to gyrate my hips at whilst tauntingly crotch chopping. There are technically arcades near me now, but if I go to any of them, I will be stabbed.

Like everyone else, I did like the first 2 Def Jam games way more than I thought I would.

rinichanraar

10-07-2008, 02:05 AM

There was talk of a Fight Club a while back. VF5, Tekken on ps3 I think can be played online, DOA4, SC4, couple of new Street Fighters, and MK action all online. Not sure where there that is now. I think even a new Guilty Gear is coming right?

Are you talking about Fight Club as in the movie, or as in you were thinking of having a fighting game club. Because the Fight Club game did come out and was terrible.

Anyway. I used to really enjoy fighting games at the arcade and otherwise, but I'm less motivated to buy them these days. When Soul Caliburs 2 and 3 came out, I was totally on top of them. I haven't even played SC4 yet, and I'm kind of not that excited to. Though I am kind of excited about Street Fighter 4, even though I think the character designs are kind of ugly. And I'm also looking forward to MK vs. DC Universe (though I haven't bought a Mortal Kombat game since Game Gear).

Xerxes

10-07-2008, 02:18 AM

Are you talking about Fight Club as in the movie, or as in you were thinking of having a fighting game club. Because the Fight Club game did come out and was terrible.

No, a social group I guess of fighting fans. Get together and get some fighting matches going.

I think Baron Samedi and Variable Gear were interested.

quidmonkey

10-07-2008, 09:53 AM

I think Baron Samedi and Variable Gear were interested.

We were, but the interest seemed mixed, the site was/is in flux and us being lazy bastards, well, it never got off the ground. If enough are interested, we could do it.

j0hnz3r

10-07-2008, 10:40 AM

No, a social group I guess of fighting fans. Get together and get some fighting matches going.

I think Baron Samedi and Variable Gear were interested.

...that'd be cool.

I'm going to assume that by HTX you mean Houston, since that's the only thing that would make sense to me, anyways... Do you go to Planet Zero? I've only been a handful of times when I'm in town visiting and the comp there is no where as good as it used to be at Stargate, well, except for Tekken. Texas has mad love for Tekken.

Xerxes

10-07-2008, 11:59 AM

...that'd be cool.

I'm going to assume that by HTX you mean Houston, since that's the only thing that would make sense to me, anyways... Do you go to Planet Zero? I've only been a handful of times when I'm in town visiting and the comp there is no where as good as it used to be at Stargate, well, except for Tekken. Texas has mad love for Tekken.

Funny, I haven't been to a true arcade in ages. Over if thought about them really. I assumed they were extinct. I might go check this place out. There is the game room at my university's bowling alley but never any competition and old games. Tekken was the last fighter in a arcade I was any good at sadly. I'm a button smasher cause I play with Eddy or Bryan. Yup those combos and stream of attacks give me away. :rolleyes:

@Baron Samedi we could set it up as a social group.

andru

10-07-2008, 02:13 PM

I'd be up for a social fighting game group as well. Nothing super hardcore obviously, just a good beat 'em up time.

nixpayn

10-07-2008, 02:31 PM

Lately I've fallen off the ladder as far as fighting games go. I thought Soul Calibur 4 would get me back into it, but maybe its just not my type of game anymore.

i played the shit out of SC3, but since then i cant get back into it.

part of me misses the RTS mode, the other part finds the new character creation system a bit too complicated. i miss being able to just put whatever i wanted my dude to look like on in terms of gear and it not affecting stats.

streetfighter i think i have 0 interest in, and mortal combat... unless they drastically change the fighting dynamics.. no thanks. i HATED getting an upper cut in the ankle while i was jumping and having it knock me out cold.

quidmonkey

10-07-2008, 02:39 PM

For those of you interested in Fight Club, what would you like to see? A list of members + what games they play? A list of fighting games per system? A weekly Fight Night?

Wilkz07

10-07-2008, 02:42 PM

never really cared for console fighting games unless you had the arcade stick.. and even then after paying that much for a controller you might as well just play in the arcades.

Def Jam Icon was not bad as was Soul Calibur 4.

Looking forward to trying MK vs DC and Street Fighter IV

Food Nipple

10-07-2008, 02:51 PM

For those of you interested in Fight Club, what would you like to see? A list of members + what games they play? A list of fighting games per system? A weekly Fight Night?

I'd be interested, but the only fighting games I currently own are DoA4 and SC4 (360). I got rid of my copy of Brawl back in March, mostly due to the horrible online setup.

Variable Gear

10-09-2008, 10:07 PM

I'll be getting BlazBlue (http://blazblue.jp/us/) when it comes out.

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Evewalker

10-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Alternatively, a realistic fist fighting game would get my attention.

I actually came in here to post this.

I'm baffled as to why in this day and age, where the standard mechanics of completely unrealistic fighting games seem to be less and less interesting, we haven't seen a truly realistic fighter.

I've been wanting one since Bushido Blade. I would love to see a weapons based fighter that at least attempts to approximate martial arts forms instead of anime characters whacking each other with nerf swords.

Variable Gear

10-10-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm baffled as to why in this day and age, where the standard mechanics of completely unrealistic fighting games seem to be less and less interesting, we haven't seen a truly realistic fighter.

I've been wanting one since Bushido Blade. I would love to see a weapons based fighter that at least attempts to approximate martial arts forms instead of anime characters whacking each other with nerf swords.
Here's your reason. Fighting games are a niche market to begin with, and the popularity of a realistic fighter would be very limited even within that group. It would not be financially feasible to make a realistic fighter. At least, I don't think so.

Xerxes

10-10-2008, 04:20 PM

MvsC 2 should help get things moving.

J Arcane

10-10-2008, 05:09 PM

Here's your reason. Fighting games are a niche market to begin with, and the popularity of a realistic fighter would be very limited even within that group. It would not be financially feasible to make a realistic fighter. At least, I don't think so.
No. Fighting games are a niche because of their formulaic nature. People don't want to keep buying the same game over and over again unless it's a sports game.

If you look bakc however, it's pretty obvious that when you do something genuinely new, people tend to sit up and take notice and reward developers for actually putting out something interesting. Def Jam, the WWF/wrestling boom of the late 90s/early 00's, Power Stone, Smash Bros.

Do something that isn't just Street Fighter XXIV and people will play.

Variable Gear

10-10-2008, 05:22 PM

No. Fighting games are a niche because of their formulaic nature. People don't want to keep buying the same game over and over again unless it's a sports game.

If you look bakc however, it's pretty obvious that when you do something genuinely new, people tend to sit up and take notice and reward developers for actually putting out something interesting. Def Jam, the WWF/wrestling boom of the late 90s/early 00's, Power Stone, Smash Bros.

Do something that isn't just Street Fighter XXIV and people will play.
I see what you're saying, but I maintain that the fighting game audience is relatively small. Yes, the WWF games were more popular because they brought non-gamers into the fold. Smash Bros. succeeded using a similar formula. These are games that expanded the audience in order to draw in new fans. A realistic fighter would have a difficult time accomplishing this kind of expansion. The game could be a hit with the hardcore, but I doubt it would appeal to the casual market, limiting its success.

J Arcane

10-10-2008, 05:26 PM

I see what you're saying, but I maintain that the fighting game audience is relatively small. Yes, the WWF games were more popular because they brought non-gamers into the fold. Smash Bros. succeeded using a similar formula. These are games that expanded the audience in order to draw in new fans. A realistic fighter would have a difficult time accomplishing this kind of expansion. The game could be a hit with the hardcore, but I doubt it would appeal to the casual market, limiting its success.
What about Fight Night?

Not exactly totally realistic, but closer than your average SF/Tekken clone, and I seem to recall it getting a hell of a lot of attention of late.

Dukefrukem

10-10-2008, 05:31 PM

I bought Dark Resurrection on the PSN and I never play it. I don't think fighting games do it for me anymore.

Variable Gear

10-10-2008, 05:42 PM

What about Fight Night?

Not exactly totally realistic, but closer than your average SF/Tekken clone, and I seem to recall it getting a hell of a lot of attention of late.
We completely agree on this point. Fight Night is one realistic fighter that has great crossover appeal.

Xerxes

10-10-2008, 06:16 PM

Fight Night sold well and it's pretty realistic. There is a new promising looking UFC game in the works. I really have no idea what you two arguing about.

Dave

10-12-2008, 11:58 PM

Me. I very much so dislike it. I played the absolute shit outta Vendetta, but I detested the changes they made for FFNY.

Interesting.

I never played Vendetta, but I loved FFNY.

I have recently purchased Vendetta (on the PS2), but have yet to play it. I'll have to check back in on this thread sometime after I've played it.

After not having an AKI fighting/wrestling game since Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 (on the N64), though, FFNY was a welcome throwback to what I think worked in fighting games of the past.

J Arcane

10-13-2008, 12:43 AM

Interesting.

I never played Vendetta, but I loved FFNY.

I have recently purchased Vendetta (on the PS2), but have yet to play it. I'll have to check back in on this thread sometime after I've played it.

After not having an AKI fighting/wrestling game since Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 (on the N64), though, FFNY was a welcome throwback to what I think worked in fighting games of the past.
I've played both. Vendetta isn't really that great. It's incredibly limited compared to FFNY. It's still fun, and makes for an alright first go, but it's clear that FFNY was the complete game they really wanted to make, and is much more on par with AKI's WWF offerings for the N64.

IncredibleScott

10-13-2008, 01:23 AM

I'd say that fighting games still hold my interest, as long as it doesn't sacrifice fun for the sake of pleasing just the hardcore gamer.

Soul Calibur IV and Smash Brothers Brawl certainly are fantastic games in their own ways and Street Fighter IV looks just as fantastic (an homage to SF2). For the most part due to their simplicity, and that any gamer can jump in and have fun. Even still I still find myself picking up some of the older classics more than some of the newer titles.

What sorta draws me away from the more hardcore fighting games is that I've never been the sort of guy who cares for playing a game with an utterly difficult AI, multiple complex combos, or cheap moves from some game's end bosses (Dead or Alive 4's end boss for example). It's also disheartening to go to a forum for some tips only to find people speak in another language as far as explaining terms and concepts that go beyond just basic combos and then throw the game down in frustration after spending an hour trying to beat a difficult character...when I could have spent that hour progressing in another game.