Steam Weekend Deal Thread

[crazyD]

How is staying ON TOPIC in a thread whining?

Whining about staying on topic != staying on topic

[violent]

"Follow the rules" seems to be the message these guys are trying to get across. You know what that got you back in school? Broken glasses.

[MagGnome]

Im a baby huh? Well the next time you make a thread about a specific thing I'll remember to post the opposite of what the threads is about.

I'm not going to petition this thread, but since it was brought up (not by me) I figured I'd throw my opinion out there. It annoys me... plain and simple.

[/discussion]

Well I was was kidding...

[SilentScreams]

I find it quite amusing that the people bitching about Impulse deals being "off topic" have taken the thread off topic for far longer than any Impulse deal ever has.

[J Arcane]

What kind of crap do you mean? The information relevant to the still young business model of Steam or the bitching of the information relevant to the still young business model of Steam?
What I'm saying is, if the subject didn't have enough traction to survive it's own topical thread, what makes people think it's anymore welcome or desired to just dump the same subjects in an existing unrelated thread instead?

If I made a bunch of threads about my naked bum, and no one was interested and they promptly dropped off the page with few if any posts, would it become somehow more acceptable if I just started posting my naked bum giant posterior in the cosplay thread instead? Should I expect legions of people suddenly defending my right to dump pictures of my brown eye in another thread, even though they hadn't the slightest interest in seeing it the first time?

It's just that the perspective seems skewed here.

[Ghostbear]

Man, if only there was some thread where multiple gaming deals were.

;)

[Banacek]

Man, if only there was some thread where multiple gaming deals were.

;)

See, if it was one continuous thread, I'd just use your weekly posts and jump out of this thread. That way this thread could become 'pure ' again and people could stop acting like stereotypical gamers in here :)

[Ghostbear]

hmm

I think that's a great idea. Make a thread that I can link to from the front page.

[MagGnome]

I find it quite amusing that the people bitching about Impulse deals being "off topic" have taken the thread off topic for far longer than any Impulse deal ever has.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I've posted about maybe 10-15 or so Impulse deals in this entire thread. Altogether a tiny fraction of the posts in this thread. Yet the last several pages are almost entirely off topic.

[Ghostbear]

It IS Monday, no deals on monday.

[violent]

What I'm saying is, if the subject didn't have enough traction to survive it's own topical thread, what makes people think it's anymore welcome or desired to just dump the same subjects in an existing unrelated thread instead?

If I made a bunch of threads about my naked bum, and no one was interested and they promptly dropped off the page with few if any posts, would it become somehow more acceptable if I just started posting my naked bum giant posterior in the cosplay thread instead? Should I expect legions of people suddenly defending my right to dump pictures of my brown eye in another thread, even though they hadn't the slightest interest in seeing it the first time?

It's just that the perspective seems skewed here.

I understand your point, I really do. The difference here is that the off topic information that sometimes fills this thread is still relevant. It's not one of those threads where people reply just to fill the pages. While it is not abiding by the specified topic, it is still both relevant and factual.

Compared to other threads, when someone posts about how they like pancakes, its validity is quickly lost to comments of waffles, sexuality and attempts at humor. That kind of mess offers no more than a high school notebook shared amongst teenagers.

The problem with this thread on the other hand, would be completely justified with a minor edit of the topic title.

[Spigot]

I want Tidalis and Turba to go on sale. Or more songs in Chime.

[c0m3d14n]

if I just started posting my naked bum giant posterior in the cosplay thread instead? Should I expect legions of people suddenly defending my right to dump pictures of my brown eye in another thread, even though they hadn't the slightest interest in seeing it the first time?

It's just that the perspective seems skewed here.

i think the panties are optional thread would be the obvious choice, but you'd have to be a lady i guess

[BLeeP]

I want Tidalis and Turba to go on sale. Or more songs in Chime.

Wish granted?

[Spigot]

Wish granted?If I rub you again, will you grant another wish?

[Spigot]

Hey Mags, have you checked this (http://store.steampowered.com/app/40350/) out? I've seen the Secret Files Tunguska game around before but never tried it. The little trailer for Lost Horizon makes me want to check them out.

I need a bit more time to get into an Adventure Game mood again. It usually strikes in the winter but I've got a bunch just begging to be played if I can tear myself away from Etrian Odyssey and a bunch of other RPGs.

[iHap]

I'm looking for the HOLY GRAIL! Has anybody seen one around here?

[Serapth]

I'm looking for the HOLY GRAIL! Has anybody seen one around here?

We've already got one, now go away or I shall be forced to taunt you a second time!

[MagGnome]

Hey Mags, have you checked this (http://store.steampowered.com/app/40350/) out? I've seen the Secret Files Tunguska game around before but never tried it. The little trailer for Lost Horizon makes me want to check them out.

Thanks for the link! That game looks pretty cool. I've added it to my wishlist.


I just spent $15 pre-ordering Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light. It comes out tomorrow, and I likely won't have much time to play it this week as I'm going out of town, but the free copy of Tomb Raider Legend pushed me over the edge.

[Crittias]

I just spent $15 pre-ordering Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light. It comes out tomorrow, and I likely won't have much time to play it this week as I'm going out of town, but the free copy of Tomb Raider Legend pushed me over the edge.I already own Legend. Anyone want it for free as a gift?

[Suave Peanut]

I already own Legend. Anyone want it for free as a gift?
First come, first serve?

[Crittias]

First come, first serve?Yup! Which means it's yours if you want it. Just send me a PM with your Steam ID.

[MagGnome]

I'm not gifting my copy, FYI. :p

[Lint of Death]

Nah, there is no game to Garry's Mod. It's more of a tech demo then anything.

Used to have a bunch of stuff ... now it doesn't, costs money, and the "game" is to essentially spawn things to shoot or that will kill your friends until the server dies on you.

From what I understand it's sort of a creation tool to play around in. There's no "game", per se.

This is such crap. There are lots of custom game modes available to play, and I've played quite a few fun ones. Garry updates the "mod" frequently, and it is always getting better and more accessible to programmers/designers. One of his most recent projects has been being able to download player-made models, effects, weapons and more while playing on the server.

You get a lot for your money; $5 is a steal.

edit: just look at Steam's stats! (http://store.steampowered.com/stats/) It's consistently one of the most played games on all of Steam.

[MagGnome]

Sorry I'm so full of crap. :p

[Crittias]

Yup! Which means it's yours if you want it. Just send me a PM with your Steam ID.HawkZombie was the first person to PM me their SteamID, so he got it.

[Hawkzombie]

Yup! Which means it's yours if you want it. Just send me a PM with your Steam ID.

Thanks a ton man! Much appreciated.

[Crittias]

Thanks a ton man! Much appreciated.Happy to do it. Now, if only there were a small way for you to return the favor. Something simple, something inexpensive. Less than a dollar, perhaps. Something like $0.99. Hmmm...

[Hawkzombie]

What are you getting at? What's a buck on Steam? LOL

EDIT: I'm a dork!

[Banacek]

This is such crap. There are lots of custom game modes available to play, and I've played quite a few fun ones. Garry updates the "mod" frequently, and it is always getting better and more accessible to programmers/designers. One of his most recent projects has been being able to download player-made models, effects, weapons and more while playing on the server.

You get a lot for your money; $5 is a steal.

edit: just look at Steam's stats! (http://store.steampowered.com/stats/) It's consistently one of the most played games on all of Steam.

Right, so it's a tool where others can make a game? Honestly, I don't have the time. I'd much rather play a real game then 'Put Alyx in provocative positions'.

[boratika]

Are you both really that big of nubs to vB forums?


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Misc/post.jpg

Are you really that big of a nub to saving images as to save text (on a plain background) an a .jpg?


http://flexapic.com/g.ashx?id=4965
:p


Also, Mags, to answer your question from another thread, the top image uses lossy compression (jpg) while the bottom uses lossless compression (png,) so yes, those words are very much real things (just images instead of audio in this case.)

Hey kids, Steam deals! (http://store.steampowered.com/app/32150/) I don't even know what the fuck that is but it looks vaguely educational, buy it for your groin spawn.

$2.50? how could I not?

I want Tidalis and Turba to go on sale. Or more songs in Chime.

Hmmm... I see (http://store.steampowered.com/app/58400/).

Can you want The Witcher to go on sale next?

[Dukefrukem]

That was weak boratika.

[Lint of Death]

Right, so it's a tool where others can make a game? Honestly, I don't have the time. I'd much rather play a real game then 'Put Alyx in provocative positions'.

They've already made the games, dummy. You download them when you join the server, and play them right away. And the games are nothing like the standard sandbox mode.

[jpublic]

Anyone try that Lost Horizon game that's on sale? It looks like an old school point-n-click.

[kyrieee]

I know! Put all the Impulse deals in spoiler tags

[Banacek]

They've already made the games, dummy. You download them when you join the server, and play them right away. And the games are nothing like the standard sandbox mode.

Hey, I'm glad people like it. I own it, actually. It's just not for me.

[Lance Uppercut]

I know! Put all the Impulse deals in spoiler tags

From here on out, putting off-topic posts in spoiler tags will be referred to as "nabbing."

[J Arcane]

Hey, I'm glad people like it. I own it, actually. It's just not for me.
So you mean you're just being a giant troll, instead of ignorant?

Shows me for assuming the best.

[Banacek]

So you mean you're just being a giant troll, instead of ignorant?

Shows me for assuming the best.

I bought it when it first came out, before there were any games. Played it for minutes, never touched it again. Seems to be a fair assessment of my experience with the 'game'. If that makes me a troll, then so be it. Sorry my opinion angers you so much.

[Lint of Death]

Hey, I'm glad people like it. I own it, actually. It's just not for me.

Oh, OK. Here I was thinking you were just unfamiliar with how Garry's Mod works, since, to be fair, there's nothing quite like it; Little Big Planet is the nearest analogue. Now I know you're lying to fellow CoGers, or, at best, deliberately misinforming them about the nature of the game to dissuade them from purchasing it. That's awful nice of you! :)

[Banacek]

Are you guys being serious, or just yanking my chain here? I can't tell if you guys really think I'm trolling or starting a smear campaign for a $5 game. I bought the game in 2006, when it first came out. There was nothing to do but pose characters. If people have created LBP type games with it that's great. It's just not how I'd want to spend my time.

[Panthera]

Are you guys being serious, or just yanking my chain here? I can't tell if you guys really think I'm trolling or starting a smear campaign for a $5 game. I bought the game in 2006, when it first came out. There was nothing to do but pose characters. If people have created LBP type games with it that's great. It's just not how I'd want to spend my time.

So did I, and spent a lot of time with it that year. I never bothered to pose characters. I guess I must have just been standing around doing nothing. :)

[Spigot]

Anyone try that Lost Horizon game that's on sale? It looks like an old school point-n-click.I was having a look at it too. I haven't played either of the first two Secret Files games (that were made by the same company) and I don't know if Lost Horizon is connected to them or is just a stand-alone game. They all look really nice though and I'll definately grab them sometime in the future when I've cleared out a few of the other P&C adventure games in my library.

[Lint of Death]

So did I, and spent a lot of time with it that year. I never bothered to pose characters. I guess I must have just been standing around doing nothing. :)

Yep, same here. I played a fair bit of the older, free version as well.

[Banacek]

So did I, and spent a lot of time with it that year. I never bothered to pose characters. I guess I must have just been standing around doing nothing. :)

Most likely. Seems you'd want to do something better with your time :)

[Panthera]

Most likely. Seems you'd want to do something better with your time :)

Just keep digging that hole deeper.

[Banacek]

Just keep digging that hole deeper.

Keep getting angry that someone on the internet didn't like your 'game'. I would suggest that is a horrible waste of your time, but...

[crazyD]

Keep getting angry that someone on the internet didn't like your 'game'. I would suggest that is a horrible waste of your time, but...

Well, it's clear that you didn't really play enough of the game to make a fair judgment, seeing how you just played with posing. Yet you are still trashing it. I can see how this could upset someone.

[Panthera]

Keep getting angry that someone on the internet didn't like your 'game'. I would suggest that is a horrible waste of your time, but...

Angry? I'm not the one meticulously replying to every person who calls you out...

[Banacek]

Angry? I'm not the one meticulously replying to every person who calls you out...

You know, I just reread the thread, and you are absolutely right. I'm being a dick here. Sorry. I have no idea where that came from.

[MagGnome]

Can we all calm down now? The last four-five pages of this thread have sucked, to be quite honest.



Also, Mags, to answer your question from another thread, the top image uses lossy compression (jpg) while the bottom uses lossless compression (png,) so yes, those words are very much real things (just images instead of audio in this case.)

I save everything in .jpg format. GIMP warns me that this loses some detail, or something like that, but I've never noticed a difference. I save .jpg's because they are smaller, at least as far as I know.

[MagGnome]

It's time for an ON TOPIC post! ;)

The Midweek Madness sale is Cities XL (http://store.steampowered.com/app/35510/) for $4.99, down from $19.99. I've heard good things about this one.

Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light (http://store.steampowered.com/app/35130/) is out on Steam today for $14.99.

Finally, Tropico 3 Gold (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6253/) just hit Steam for $29.99. I cannot recommend this game enough!

I know that two of these aren't sales, but at least they aren't links to Impulse, either. :p

Oh, and does anyone else get slightly annoyed when Steam changes the size of the banner on the main page of the store? I don't like having to resize the window every time they decide to enlarge the image.

[crazyD]

I save everything in .jpg format. GIMP warns me that this loses some detail, or something like that, but I've never noticed a difference. I save .jpg's because they are smaller, at least as far as I know.

.jpg is fine for photos, but the added compression artifacts that generally look crappy on text. As a rule of thumbs, go .png if text is involved.

[J Arcane]

Also, Front Mission Evolved and Dead Rising 2, while not on sale, are available on Steam today.

[Banacek]

That Lara Croft game is really tempting me. Hmm, what to do, what to do...

[kyrieee]

If you're having problems with buying too much just buy something really terrible. Alpha Protocol cured my Steam addiction

[crazyD]

I dug Alpha Protocol! Not very polished, but had that Obsidian charm.

[MagGnome]

.jpg is fine for photos, but the added compression artifacts that generally look crappy on text. As a rule of thumbs, go .png if text is involved.

Ah, that explains it. I use it for pictures. I rarely save images that have text in them.


That Lara Croft game is really tempting me. Hmm, what to do, what to do...

I'll definitely post some impressions once I play the game. I'm hoping to try it for a bit tonight, although I might end up just playing more Civ V.

[J Arcane]

If you're having problems with buying too much just buy something really terrible. Alpha Protocol cured my Steam addiction
What pissed me off were the weapons. Five-seveNs that shot 9mm, Glocks that shot 5.7, shotguns in".60 caliber".

It well exceeded my limit for blatant inaccuracy.

Combine that with rubbish performance and an irritating dialogue system, and it had a quick death for me.

[Spigot]

I'm still waiting for a really deep discount on Alpha Protocol before I bite. I remember the sale where it was down to about $29 a little while ago but I'm not paying more than $15 for it. It sounds like it has some really great elements that are cluttered up with a lot of not so great elements. Sigh.

If the PC version of Dead Rising 2 is good, I'll probably grab it on sale eventually. I still want to make an effort to beat the original before I get the sequel.

[Acidpoptart]

Bought, and am enjoying Everyday Genius: SquareLogic, in spite of its terrible name.

[Superman's Dead]

I'm still waiting for a really deep discount on Alpha Protocol before I bite. I remember the sale where it was down to about $29 a little while ago but I'm not paying more than $15 for it. It sounds like it has some really great elements that are cluttered up with a lot of not so great elements. Sigh.

If the PC version of Dead Rising 2 is good, I'll probably grab it on sale eventually. I still want to make an effort to beat the original before I get the sequel.

It's $14 in the gamefly sale, and GoGamer has it for about that much too.

Oh, wait, fuck, I posted deals from other systems in this thread please no how did you get in here don't hit me please god stop go red sox tom brady is god please stop oh fuc-

This was all in good fun, and meant entirely without malice. :)

[Acidpoptart]

Also, is it weird that I had no interest in Cities XL, but upon discovering the Steam Exclusive item is for some reason a building from UCLA (where I did my undergrad), I want it? Would I really spend $5 for a single building?

[Grifter]

It's $14 in the gamefly sale, and GoGamer has it for about that much too.

Oh, wait, fuck, I posted deals from other systems in this thread please no how did you get in here don't hit me please god stop go red sox tom brady is god please stop oh fuc-

This was all in good fun, and meant entirely without malice. :)

You're fired!

[Spigot]

It's $14 in the gamefly sale, and GoGamer has it for about that much too.Being in the wild and snowy reaches of Canada, I don't think I can get it via Gamefly (and don't want the console versions anyway) and I don't know about GoGamer, having never really looked into them at all, again, being stuck in Canada :)

I want it via Steam because I'm a snob that way with my PC games now.

[SilentScreams]

I've bought the Steam version, so I'll let you know how it is when I eventually get to play it.

[Narradisall]

I always forget to check steam deals. Heck, even this thread gets massively packed to catch up with.

[kyrieee]

I've bought the Steam version, so I'll let you know how it is when I eventually get to play it.

Do some self mutilation too while you're at it

[Superman's Dead]

Being in the wild and snowy reaches of Canada, I don't think I can get it via Gamefly (and don't want the console versions anyway) and I don't know about GoGamer, having never really looked into them at all, again, being stuck in Canada :)

I want it via Steam because I'm a snob that way with my PC games now.

You and your ilk sicken me.

[Spigot]

You and your ilk sicken me.Which... Canadians or PC gamers? :)

[Superman's Dead]

Which... Canadians or PC gamers? :)

Spigots.

BE A FAUCET ALREADY. UPGRADE, MAN!

[Lint of Death]

Bought, and am enjoying Everyday Genius: SquareLogic, in spite of its terrible name.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was spending more time with the "Marple" iPhone app than I really imagined I would, so $2.50 for a bajillion puzzles of almost as many varieties actually appealed to me.

[CappinCanuck]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was spending more time with the "Marple" iPhone app than I really imagined I would, so $2.50 for a bajillion puzzles of almost as many varieties actually appealed to me.

I has it now too :D

Thx to whomever was playing it on my steam list!

[Panthera]

Being in the wild and snowy reaches of Canada, I don't think I can get it via Gamefly (and don't want the console versions anyway) and I don't know about GoGamer, having never really looked into them at all, again, being stuck in Canada :)

I want it via Steam because I'm a snob that way with my PC games now.

GoGamer doesn't ship to Canada anyway, last time I checked.

[Savok]

Delve Deeper (http://store.steampowered.com/app/63800/) intrigues me, though mostly because Dwarf Fortress has given me a love of inflicting horrors upon dwarfkind.

Still, very interesting. Forum folk seem to be having a decent time... when the game works anyway.

[Dukefrukem]

It's $14 in the gamefly sale, and GoGamer has it for about that much too.

Oh, wait, fuck, I posted deals from other systems in this thread please no how did you get in here don't hit me please god stop go red sox tom brady is god please stop oh fuc-

This was all in good fun, and meant entirely without malice. :)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Forum%20Insults/megaeyeroll.gif

[rein]

Everything Magic The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers is 50% off. Should I grab the everything pack for $17.49 or be picky about the foil packs and decks?

[Ghostbear]

Just buy all of it.

[rein]

Just buy all of it.Done. It was easier to buy it all than to try and go through each foil card individually and decide what I might or might not be interested in.

[MagGnome]

I'm thinking about picking up the second expansion, but I pretty much burned out on that game. I hate how the difficulty jumps way up once you finish the campaign. I can't even unlock the rest of the cards because the AI seems to just kick my ass constantly.

[kyrieee]

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Forum%20Insults/megaeyeroll.gif

I take it that was for Alpha Protocol and not GoGamer

[rein]

Well... ...that is disappointing. When I try to launch MTG: Duels of the Planeswalkers it doesn't load. A message box pops up and tells me it is preparing to load and then nothing ever happens.

[Blue]

Well... ...that is disappointing. When I try to launch MTG: Duels of the Planeswalkers it doesn't load. A message box pops up and tells me it is preparing to load and then nothing ever happens.

I don't know if this is an option or not (or if it will even help), but that's happened to me before on a few games randomly and when it asks if I want to allow Steam to make changes to my computer, if I hit "no", it then will load. Not sure if that'll even help, but still.

[J Arcane]

To celebrate becoming a Korean MMO, TF2 is on sale for 50% off.

[Hawkzombie]

I've never played MtG ever.

[rein]

I don't know if this is an option or not (or if it will even help), but that's happened to me before on a few games randomly and when it asks if I want to allow Steam to make changes to my computer, if I hit "no", it then will load. Not sure if that'll even help, but still.Thanks for the tip but I found the problem. I didn't have SP3 installed.

[kyrieee]

L4D 1+2 for 10€ and I still don't care. Perhaps the price is low enough that I should buy it and maybe be surprised

[MagGnome]

I have yet to play the second game with anyone. :/

[crazyD]

Now's the time, Mag! I bet you'll be able to find a ton of people getting back into the game.

[Lithium Flower]

What! Don't tell me! This must be remedied! This weekend, Mags, it's you and me versus 10 million zombies!

[Spigot]

I have yet to play the second game with anyone. :/I'll play with you. I have yet to play a 4 person game of L4D2 and I think it would be a much better experience for it. Tried it with one friend and the AI is too stupid for words at the endgame setpiece battles of the stages I tried.

[MagGnome]

Thanks guys! Let's try to get something set up soon then. I tried playing by myself, but that's just awful.

[Hawkzombie]

Thanks guys! Let's try to get something set up soon then. I tried playing by myself, but that's just awful.

I'll play with mags too. I've been wanting to play some 'OMFG WHERE'S THE TANK OH JESUS HE'S GOT ME WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS?!?!? FUCK NOW A CHARGER IS HERE!!!' fer reals.

[Serapth]

Thanks guys! Let's try to get something set up soon then. I tried playing by myself, but that's just awful.

Its all in the wrist.

[Blue]

I bought it. I also require fodder to play with. And by fodder I mean meat shields.

[Blue]

Man, Steam must be getting hammered. Can't even download them yet.

[MagGnome]

I'll play with you guys as long as you aren't control freaks or dicks. I've had some bad experiences with L4D multiplayer. I've had some good ones as well, of course, at least with the first game.


Its all in the wrist.

Eh, I've sort of grown bored with it. I guess I need to change things up.

[Hawkzombie]

I like playing with people who know I'll always try to shoot the witch and axe the tank. :D

[Lithium Flower]

Slug the witch in the back of the head with the shotgun - one hit kill. Handmade.Mercury and I got yelled at by a Texan Control Freak once. I alerted the horde while another horde was ripping us to shreds. He sounded like Bush, it was funny! :D

[Savok]

Remember my fellow Aussies, get it gifted so it's a non-bullshit version.

[J Arcane]

You know, maybe it's all the Zombie Escape I've been playing, or maybe it's not just a very good campaign, but I tried the new L4D campaign today and just found myself fucking bored.

It's so plodding, and lacks any sense of immediacy. It's just marching through the shooting gallery until the next scripted wave of zombies pours in. Woo.

Despite the poor design on some of the maps, I really like the sense of emergency and tension the Zombie Escape mod for CSS has, and that just isn't present here anymore.

[Savok]

Sounds like they tried to at least capture the pacing of the original game as opposed to L4D2's special infected spam then.

[Narradisall]

It's not just you Arcane, I missed L4D entirely, and found the sequel to be lacking the awesome I was led to believe. It's an ok game, but a far far cry from the 'different everytime you play!' I was led to believe (maybe wrongly).

The same maps get mind numbing very quick.

[SilentScreams]

I put about 20 hours into L4D and half that into L4D2 and I felt like I'd played them to death. All in all, 20 and 10 hours respectively isn't a bad return by todays standards, but I fail to see the great games that a lot of people seem to think of them as.

[violent]

It's all relative to who you play with. I could single play these games or I could play with people who know how to play on a high difficulty level. The level of fun between the two is too large to even try to explain.

[Psykoboy2]

It's all relative to who you play with.

And how much you pay for them. :D

[J Arcane]

Sounds like they tried to at least capture the pacing of the original game as opposed to L4D2's special infected spam then.
Well, I was playing the L4D1 version.

I never picked up L4D2 because I never felt any of the games were worth more than $20, let alone $50, but I was thinking of finally nabbing it for the $6.

But after my playtime last night, well, it just didn't do it for me. And with knowing already how bad the AI is in L4D2, than sort of puts the nail in the coffin. It just feels rote, and predictable. All the "AI director" really means is that if you've not shot anything for X amount of time, it will throw a special at you.

[violent]

Well, I was playing the L4D1 version.

I never picked up L4D2 because I never felt any of the games were worth more than $20, let alone $50, but I was thinking of finally nabbing it for the $6.

But after my playtime last night, well, it just didn't do it for me. And with knowing already how bad the AI is in L4D2, than sort of puts the nail in the coffin. It just feels rote, and predictable. All the "AI director" really means is that if you've not shot anything for X amount of time, it will throw a special at you.

If you're playing by yourself, you're not really playing L4D. Trust me on this. I love the game to death but I'll be the first to admit that the survivor AI is some of the worst. Half of that game is to vocally strategize with your team and even if the survivor AI was great, that would still be impossible. The director AI on the other hand, works quite well.

[J Arcane]

If you're playing by yourself, you're not really playing L4D. Trust me on this. I love the game to death but I'll be the first to admit that the survivor AI is some of the worst. Half of that game is to vocally strategize with your team and even if the survivor AI was great, that would still be impossible. The director AI on the other hand, works quite well.
I've played L4D with other people. It's really not as different as you'd like to posit here. The gameplay issues are the same, the only difference is when you play it online, you run into the groups that treat it like it's a WoW raid.

[violent]

I've played L4D with other people. It's really not as different as you'd like to posit here. The gameplay issues are the same, the only difference is when you play it online, you run into the groups that treat it like it's a WoW raid.

Obviously we are playing different games then because l4d is nothing like that for me.

[Exodus]

You know what, if I was with a bunch of survivors in a zombie apocalypse, I'd want to work with people who treated it like a WoW raid too. So that sounds like more of a postive thing than a detrimental thing.

[J Arcane]

Within a week of regular play of L4D, my LAN group server had already started console hacking just to jack up the difficulty. And there's really only so far you can go with the same 2 hours of generic streets and forests before you start wanting something.

Which is why I waited until it was $20 to even buy my copy.

[J Arcane]

You know what, if I was with a bunch of survivors in a zombie apocalypse, I'd want to work with people who treated it like a WoW raid too. So that sounds like more of a postive thing than a detrimental thing.

I play games because I want to have fun, not because I have Aspergers.

[violent]

Within a week of regular play of L4D, my LAN group server had already started console hacking just to jack up the difficulty. And there's really only so far you can go with the same 2 hours of generic streets and forests before you start wanting something.

Which is why I waited until it was $20 to even buy my copy.

So you're telling me your LAN buddies found realism mode on expert too easy? Forgive me if I don't believe you for a second.

[Widgetcraft]

I guess I've always just played with laid back people, because I would never compare it to a WoW raid. It's just good, relaxed, zombie shooting fun with friends.

Also: It sucks that they fucked up the third-person perspective for no reason in this patch...

[Arphahat]

L4D really can be fun or not because of the people you play with. Some people take it SO. SERIOUSLY. that if you are a casual player (like I am) they are quick to get annoyed with you. In fact, the last time I played was months ago and I was ready to unload my gun on the guy on my own team. I've run into that enough that I'd be very picky about who I play with now. Most of Cog is pretty good.

[Troggles]

I ended up picking up L4D2. I played the first one a little bit, but never really got into it. I think the problem was that I was playing with people way better than me so we were on a difficulty I couldn't handle. If anyone wants to try it out on a more casual difficulty, I'm game.

[Widgetcraft]

I'd be fine with playing on Normal, personally, I'm not really one of those people who play games for a heavy challenge.

[MagGnome]

Left 4 Dead is just like Alien Swarm - it's all in who you are playing with. I've had some great times in both games (thanks Avakus and Lithium Flower!) and I've had some horrible times in both games (thanks XXXX and random douche!).


I'd be fine with playing on Normal, personally, I'm not really one of those people who play games for a heavy challenge.

Agreed. I'm not one of those gamers who thinks that every game needs to be a big challenge. I didn't have nearly as much fun in L4D on Advanced as I did on Normal.

[Ghostbear]

I have a hard time playing on normal, simply because I can sleep through it. That hardly makes me a jerk for wanting to play with some difficulty and wanting to win.

[violent]

I have a hard time playing on normal, simply because I can sleep through it. That hardly makes me a jerk for wanting to play with some difficulty and wanting to win.

Oh, it sure does. Only you though.

[Troggles]

I have a hard time playing on normal, simply because I can sleep through it. That hardly makes me a jerk for wanting to play with some difficulty and wanting to win.

I never called you a jerk. I just said I can't handle it at that difficulty, and for me, that made the game less fun.

[Hawkzombie]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to play specifically to win. But the funnest times I've had playing L4D 1 & 2 have been when we don't play to win, but play to just get through it...and where all but one of us is dead when the rescue happens lol.

[MagGnome]

I have a hard time playing on normal, simply because I can sleep through it. That hardly makes me a jerk for wanting to play with some difficulty and wanting to win.

When did anyone call you a jerk?

[Spigot]

Oh god, guys. Let's not have the thread degrade into this kind of nit-picking again. I don't think Ghosty was complaining about being called a jerk. Just that he shouldn't be made to feel like a jerk if he likes a challenge.

[Banacek]

Oh god, guys. Let's not have the thread degrade into this kind of nit-picking again. I don't think Ghosty was complaining about being called a jerk. Just that he shouldn't be made to feel like a jerk if he likes a challenge.

Challenge?

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[violent]

Oh god, guys. Let's not have the thread degrade into this kind of nit-picking again. I don't think Ghosty was complaining about being called a jerk. Just that he shouldn't be made to feel like a jerk if he likes a challenge.

Nobody actually called him a jerk. He does have a stupid jerk face though.

[Spigot]

That's more like it :)

I see that Deathspank is coming out on Steam in a couple of weeks. If you buy it now, you get 10% off. If you buy it AND Shank, it's 15% off both. I didn't really care for Shank outside of the visuals when I tried the demo but I could probably see myself getting Deathspank for $13...

[Ghostbear]

Oh god, guys. Let's not have the thread degrade into this kind of nit-picking again. I don't think Ghosty was complaining about being called a jerk. Just that he shouldn't be made to feel like a jerk if he likes a challenge.

That's exactly what I meant.

[Troggles]

That's exactly what I meant.

You're such a jerk for making me feel like a jerk because I insinuated that you were a jerk.

[Spectre-7]

Just picked up L4D2 (is it just me, or does that sound like a droid?), so I'll be down to play soon. I was a reasonably advanced L4D player, but I like playing with less experience players sometimes... kinda makes you feel like an old grizzled veteran taking people out on a safari. ;)

[Ghostbear]

Another potential player. I'll guide you little Spectre. ;)

[Serapth]

L4D really can be fun or not because of the people you play with. Some people take it SO. SERIOUSLY. that if you are a casual player (like I am) they are quick to get annoyed with you. In fact, the last time I played was months ago and I was ready to unload my gun on the guy on my own team. I've run into that enough that I'd be very picky about who I play with now. Most of Cog is pretty good.

Something about steam online games brings out the right cunts eh?

I picked up L4f2f as well. May be down for a game once I shake my Demon Souls addiction.

[Spectre-7]

Disk usage: 7400 Mb (so Steam says)

Actual size: >10.4 GB

Annoyance level: Mild

[J Arcane]

My Steam folder is 123GB.

My former hard drive wasn't even that large.

[Grifter]

273 GB here, I think it's time I do some purging.

[Spigot]

Just checked. My Steam folder is 296 GB... yeesh. That's more than twice as big as my old HDD was on the rig before this.

[Widgetcraft]

Disk usage: 7400 Mb (so Steam says)

Actual size: >10.4 GB

Annoyance level: Mild

I think the extra space is from DLC... which is mandatory on the PC, so they should really update the required specs.

[Savok]

I've got a tiny little SSD to deal with so I have to keep things slim.

[Hawkzombie]

I need to just play some games and beat them, then uninstall them :p

[SilentScreams]

322gb Steam folder...yeesh. I never uninstall stuff...but I still have about 1.3tb of space left, so it seems pretty pointless.
I have loads of stuff installed that I'll probably never play again though.

[Spigot]

Yeah. Once I got the TB drive, I don't feel the need to uninstall stuff.

[nabokovfan87]

My Steam folder is 123GB.

My former hard drive wasn't even that large.

Steam apps folder for me on my 1 TB drive is 280 GB, drive itself only has 145 GB free.

Audio and such editing kills space, not a good habit to upkeep.

[MagGnome]

Just picked up L4D2 (is it just me, or does that sound like a droid?)

Make sure you send Lucas a check.


My Steam folder is 194GB, which is much bigger than I expected. I have less than 1/2 of my games installed. I should slowly install the rest and see how much space they take up.

Of course a few folders for my Steam games are located elsewhere, so it's at least a few megs larger than that in reality.

I still remember moving my Steam folder over from my last computer. That took hours.

[LordDon]

So Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is 33% off this weekend and it's STILL $40. Fuck Activision, they can suck a bag of dicks.

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[Hawkzombie]

I wish for Left 4 Dead tonight. WHO IS WITH ME?!?

[Savok]

So Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is 33% off this weekend and it's STILL $40. Fuck Activision, they can suck a bag of dicks.

$60.29US here.

In other anti-deal news, Railworks has reached $887. Its competitor Trainz 2010 a measly $100, and one of the expansions for it is even stand alone, pathetic.

[MagGnome]

So Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is 33% off this weekend and it's STILL $40. Fuck Activision, they can suck a bag of dicks.

CzbURUrgQao

I saw that and laughed. :D

[Spectre-7]

Started a thread for new L4D2 players over in the matchmaking area. Let's get some zed slaying going, eh? (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=20043)

[MagGnome]

The entire "X" series is now on Steam. Previously only 2 and 3 were available. They are sold separately or in the "X Superbox", which is currently on sale for $35.99 (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6330/).

[Savok]

All the shitty DRM is gone too, so have at it.

[MagGnome]

Yeah, they patched out the DRM a while ago.

[Shrinn]

For those of you picking up or replaying Killing Floor add me and Abyssion on steam! We like the game a whole lot.

[Savok]

There a single player component to it?

[J Arcane]

Yeah but it sucks.

[Khrymsyn]

For those of you picking up or replaying Killing Floor add me and Abyssion on steam! We like the game a whole lot.

I've been wanting to try it after a friend of mine convinced me to grab that and L4D1+2 not long ago, but haven't played either. =?

[crazyD]

Weekend Deal is BlackLight Tango Down for $7.49. Anyone play this? Is it any good? The concept seems interesting enough, and it's cheap.

[Serapth]

Fuck the deals on Steam, whats going on on Impulse?????

[J Arcane]

Fuck the deals on Steam, whats going on on Impulse?????
Apparently nothing. Can't even get the page to load.

Smooth move, Stardock.

[Spigot]

I was wondering what was going on too. Maybe they're taking a page from the GoG playbook :)

[Troggles]

The complete pack of Tales of Monkey Island is only $5 on Steam, too.

[Serapth]

impulsepowered.com loads just fine for me. Lots of sales too, but its all that wierd eurotrash shovelware shit they seem to have a lot of.

[crazyD]

About $5 too expensive still. All right, I promise to stop railing on Telltale.

[MagGnome]

Fuck the deals on Steam, whats going on on Impulse?????

They have a huge sale on ME2 (with the DLC I believe), and Mount & Blade: Warband is only $10.50.

Pretty nice deals actually.

[Panthera]

For anyone that doesn't yet have those, they're good prices for great games.

[CappinCanuck]

Fuck the deals on Steam, whats going on on Impulse?????

They have a huge sale on ME2 (with the DLC I believe), and Mount & Blade: Warband is only $10.50.

Pretty nice deals actually.


ME2 Deluxe is $20 on impulse now. In case anyone missed the Steam sale, I don't see any sale pricing on steam anymore.

[jpublic]

If you own Cities XL, Cities XL 2011 edition is half off.

[Lithium Flower]

I really want to get ME2 but I think I want to get it on Steam.

[J Arcane]

I still haven't even played ME2.

I keep hitting that same impasse over the save conversion thing.

[jpublic]

What's the problem, J?

There's all sorts of sites where you can download saves of L60 Shepards of whatever sex you want with whatever chocies you want.

[Serapth]

What's the problem, J?

There's all sorts of sites where you can download saves of L60 Shepards of whatever sex you want with whatever chocies you want.

... some things sound much more sexual than they actually are. This, is a good example of such things.

[Spigot]

My only reason not to try to download a replicant Shephard when I started up ME2 on the PC (After playing through on the 360 for 1) was that I couldn't change her name :(

[crazyD]

The name that is never mentioned, and is only viewable from the save file?

[MagGnome]

That really is a great deal on Warband. I'm very tempted, but I'm going to continue to hold off for now.

[Lithium Flower]

There is a save game editor that you can use to change your name. Also I think ME2 allows you to confirm the name as well as the face when you import a savegame.

[crazyD]

No, can't change the name when you change the face. I don't really see why it matters at all, though.

[J Arcane]

Its a roleplayer thing, you wouldn't understand.

[crazyD]

I could see it being a part of roleplaying if it actually had any impact whatsoever in the game, but it doesn't. No one calls you by the name, you don't have a locker with the name on it... nothing. You only ever see it on the save file. You could still think of the character as having whatever name you want. If you wanted to roleplay the character as Gaylord Shepard, a man who spent his entire life bullied because of his name, so now he is emotionally scarred, and would literally kill anyone who called him by his first name, fucking go for it. Who cares if the save file says "John Shepard" on it?

[MagGnome]

Wouldn't it be rather easy to change the name of the save file anyway?

[Spigot]

Because I have to see the name in my inventory & stat screen and if it's not a name I like, I'm sad.

[Savok]

Is there a savegame editor that lets you "build" an end game save for ME1? Or at least toggle the things in ME2?

I understand not wanting someone else's character, but if you can clone it from scratch...

[nabokovfan87]

Is there a savegame editor that lets you "build" an end game save for ME1? Or at least toggle the things in ME2?

I understand not wanting someone else's character, but if you can clone it from scratch...

I thought they had a thing in the second ME where if you don't load a save you answer 10 questions and that makes the background for you.

[Savok]

Didn't think so, 10 wouldn't be enough anyway.

[Spigot]

You do answer a set of questions and can approximate some of the major decisions from the first but there are a lot of smaller variables that don't carry over.

I could have put more effort into trying to rebuild my 360 Shepherd but I'm lazy :)

[jpublic]

I'm 95% sure you can change the name when you import to ME2.

[Psykoboy2]

If you own Cities XL, Cities XL 2011 edition is half off.

Hmmm...not a bad deal seeing as the game was released 2 days ago. Might pick that up.

[J Arcane]

You do answer a set of questions and can approximate some of the major decisions from the first but there are a lot of smaller variables that don't carry over.

I could have put more effort into trying to rebuild my 360 Shepherd but I'm lazy :)
I have a hang up about replaying games as it is, but replaying a game just to do exactly the same shit over again bores me to extra bitter tears.

I tried just going back and playing as something totally different, but it just felt wrong. Jennifer Hale's voice was still there but now my Shepherd looked all weird, and I don't care for guy Shep, he's boring.

[Savok]

Heh, it's strange that. I'm terrible with sliders and simply went with "good enough" in ME1. I've improved with the damned things a little more these days, but even if I make a technically "better" Shep, it's just wrong to me.

[crazyD]

I'm 95% sure you can change the name when you import to ME2.

I am 95% sure you cannot.

[Lithium Flower]

There is a save game editor (http://mod.gib.me/masseffect2/saveedit_rev25.zip) for ME2 that lets you change ME1 flags around. Also Shepard's first name among other things.

[Spigot]

I'm 95% sure you can change the name when you import to ME2.Unfortunately, that's about the one variable you can't change when you import.

There is a save game editor (http://mod.gib.me/masseffect2/saveedit_rev25.zip) for ME2 that lets you change ME1 flags around. Also Shepard's first name among other things.I don't know if this was handy when the game was released. If I ever get around to going back to the game, I might do this to rebuild my Shepard into the lady she was at the end of ME1...

[Satertek]

If you own Cities XL, Cities XL 2011 edition is half off.

And if you own neither you can still get both for $40.

Heard the first one had problems, and haven't heard anything about 2011.

[biosc1]

Disciples 2 and 3 are %50 off.

Disciples 2 Gold for $5 is pretty much a no-brainer. From what I recall, a great game along the lines of Age of Wonders and HoMM.

Also...Railworks 2 is %50 off week ;)

[boratika]

Question: I already own Disciples 2 Gold (Even though I don't know what it is, someone just recommended it. A symptom of my Steam sale addiction.) but I don't know which game I am meant to play first: Gallean's Return or Rise of the Elves?

From what I've googled, Gallean's is the original release plus the first two expansions and Rise is the subsequent expansion, but it contains the original game and then follows on. So... does Elves contain the original in its original form, or with additions form the expansion?

[biosc1]

contain the original in its original form, or with additions form the expansion?

No idea...what I read as well showed that there were a ton of expansions. I would assume that starting Gallean's Return would give a separate campaign that Elves...so I would just start with Gallean's.

Edit: Start with Gallean's. It is the same executable, so it's fully updated.

To get it to run:

1) If you do not have Steam installed to the default directory, then add the \Steam directory to your Path environment variable.

2) Find the exe for Disciples and right-click change compatibility to XP SP3 (you'll find it in the 1st party Steam directory under your username and not the usual 3rd party install directory)

3) Right click on the game in your Steam Library and disable the Steam Overlay.

UAC will trigger on start-up, but other than that, it will work fine.

Playing in windowed mode doesn't seem to play either.

[MagGnome]

I went to buy Disciples 2 and realized that I already own it on Steam. :o

[Arphahat]

I went to buy Disciples 2 and realized that I already own it on Steam. :o

Ha ha! I didn't own it, so I WAS able to buy it! Thus, I win...? :)

[MagGnome]

I think we both lose. :p

[Spigot]

It's Disciples 2. I think you BOTH win.

[MagGnome]

I've decided to go ahead and download the game. I'll also be implementing the fix that Biosc1 mentioned above. I have no idea if I'll actually play the game or not, but at least it will be there, calling to me.

[biosc1]

I think I need play the tutorial. I tried the first scenario and had no idea what was going on.

[MagGnome]

I can't even locate the exe to implement the changes that you noted earlier. There doesn't seem to be a folder for the game anywhere, despite the fact that I just installed it on Steam.

[biosc1]

I can't even locate the exe to implement the changes that you noted earlier. There doesn't seem to be a folder for the game anywhere, despite the fact that I just installed it on Steam.

It's actually installed into the 1st party folder (the one that is your username)

[MagGnome]

I found it, thanks!

[Stoke]

I'm now incredibly tempted by Disciples 2 even though I knew naught of its existence 20 minutes ago. Damn this thread to hell.

[CappinCanuck]

This is pretty hot from Gamersgate:

http://www.gamersgate.com/img/boximgs/big/DDB-DUDE4P.jpg (http://www.gamersgate.com/DDB-DUDE4P/dungeon-defenders-4-for-3-bundle)

4-Pack - $26.97 (reg. $36)

[MagGnome]

Does anyone actually understand what's going on in Disciples 2? The tutorial might as well be non-existent, as it explains NOTHING. The interface is clunky, to say the least, and the graphics are dated enough that I really have no idea what I'm doing.

It looks like a game I'd enjoy if I could only figure out what the heck is going on.

[Clark]

Does anyone actually understand what's going on in Disciples 2? The tutorial might as well be non-existent, as it explains NOTHING. The interface is clunky, to say the least, and the graphics are dated enough that I really have no idea what I'm doing.

It looks like a game I'd enjoy if I could only figure out what the heck is going on.

I have played much Disciples 2. It's actually one of my favorite games. Any specific questions or just general?

One thing that's a bit different from other games of the genre: The land you control "creeps" out every turn. You push out during your turn, the other players during theirs. Each race has a unit that plants "flags". Planting these flags next to resources such as gold or red crystals for example will cause the resources to be under your control. Flags can be removed by the other player as well.

Thieves are wicked. Especially with poison. You can soften up an enemy unit for a turn or two with your thief before attacking.

If the leader of a party dies, the group limps back home so you can bring him/her back to life.

[boratika]

I think it's more the basic mechanics that are the problem. Like real basic. Like what buttons to press. The tutorial tells you what to do, but not how to do it.

[MagGnome]

Thanks for the tips Clark.

Boratika hit the nail on the head. I can't even figure out the basics, let alone what the actual goals of the game are.

[biosc1]

That's okay, you can say it... "It's no Age of Wonders" ;)

[Spigot]

Now it has been a while since I played Disciples 2, but I really don't remember it being that hard to figure out. You just suck at gaming, Mags, and need to turn in your Steam Membership Card. Sorry. It's just something that happens to most of us when we get older.

[MagGnome]

That's okay, you can say it... "It's no Age of Wonders" ;)

I can't make that call one way or another, at least not yet. Disciples is certainly more obtuse.


Now it has been a while since I played Disciples 2, but I really don't remember it being that hard to figure out. You just suck at gaming, Mags, and need to turn in your Steam Membership Card. Sorry. It's just something that happens to most of us when we get older.

It was bound to happen someday. I guess now I can start playing FarmVille instead.

[Clark]

Now it has been a while since I played Disciples 2, but I really don't remember it being that hard to figure out. You just suck at gaming, Mags, and need to turn in your Steam Membership Card. Sorry. It's just something that happens to most of us when we get older.

I'm quite surprised Mags is having a hard time. He plays a lot of these types of games. If memory serves, it's all mouse clicks and fairly basic. I didn't go through a tutorial to learn how to play. Maybe it's just me and Disciples. We click.


Mags-If you DO have even the most basic of questions, let me know. Post em here or hit me up on Steam. I really do think you would dig this game.

[MagGnome]

I've figured out quite a bit since my last post in here. I've played for a couple of hours and am enjoying it so far. :)

[Inspector Fowler]

Arkham Asylum for $13.60?! If you know one of the 10 gamers who never played this, tell them to get their asses on Steam and buy AA RIGHT NOW.

[J Arcane]

Damn. That'd be sort of worth it just so's I don't have to hook up the PS3 to play it anymore

[Clark]

I've figured out quite a bit since my last post in here. I've played for a couple of hours and am enjoying it so far. :)

Most excellent!

I love the art style. I know I may be clubbed for saying this, but there are many things about it I find more enjoyable when compared to Civ 5.

[Spigot]

Arkham Asylum for $13.60?! If you know one of the 10 gamers who never played this, tell them to get their asses on Steam and buy AA RIGHT NOW.I bought it (despite finishing it on the PS3) and all, but then I just found out that it uses SecuROM. I'll live with that if need be, but it's kind of shocking that people are still using SecuROM these days. I thought it had basically been dumped by everyone.

[Acidpoptart]

WOOT! I've been waiting a long while to get Batman. As soon as I finish up this deadline (tonight? tomorrow?) I am going to power through that bad boy.

[J Arcane]

Batman is one of the finest action games ever made, and THE finest superhero game ever made, without question.

Also, I'm the kung-fu fucking master of survival mode. I look forward to refreshing my skills.

[Savok]

It's still got shitty DRM for no damn reason, so fuck it.

EDIT: And GFWL, appealing!

[tacitus]

It's still got shitty DRM for no damn reason, so fuck it.

EDIT: And GFWL, appealing!
QFT ... steam is already DRM; I do not except extra DRM with steam.

[J Arcane]

I bought it anyway.

The lure of Totally Insane is too strong.

[Khrymsyn]

I enjoyed the demo I played on the 360. Any particular "drawbacks" of having the PC version? (i.e. was it a decent port)? Does it have the included Joker stuff?

[kyrieee]

No Joker stuff, you also can't set the mouse sensitivity (wtf?). Overall I think it's a very good port though, runs fantastic.

[SilentScreams]

The PC version looks better and is a solid port. I do however recommend plugging in a 360 controller if you have the option. The mouse/kb controls are good, but the game was clearly designed with a gamepad in mind.

[J Arcane]

No Joker is kind of a bummer, but then I never quite liked the Joker levels, especially the stealth ones.

What's weirder is just how much brighter everything is. It doesn't seem quite as dark and brooding somehow, the colors are more intense and so is the lighting.

Might turn down the brightness, see what that does.

[Spigot]

The GOTY edition doesn't have the Joker stuff? That's odd.

[Lance Uppercut]

Arkham Asylum is one of the few games I've bought for more than one platform. I've sunken in so many hours into the combat challenges, the fighting system is deeper than it seems. There's nothing quite like finishing an entire round with just one continuous combo and not get hit.

[roboninja]

The GOTY edition doesn't have the Joker stuff? That's odd.

I believe it remained a PS3 exclusive.

[kyrieee]

The PC version looks better and is a solid port. I do however recommend plugging in a 360 controller if you have the option. The mouse/kb controls are good, but the game was clearly designed with a gamepad in mind.

Hmm? I thought the mouse controls were great. Target switching was really smooth, especially to guys behind you or far off to your side. Not sure how it works with a controller, do you switch to them blindly?

[muddi900]

The QTE's are just lame with KB.

[kyrieee]

There were QTEs?

[jpublic]

I actually found the QTEs easier, as I have the muscle memory for the KB at a higher level than any gamepad.

[Serapth]

The QTE's are just lame with KB.

The QTE's are just lame.

[Handmade.Mercury]

My roommate likes to call Batman's combat system "Press Square to win."

I think it's a great game, but I'm kind of inclined to agree with him when all of the combat situations in the game can be handled with two buttons. I felt like there needed to be more rooms full of armed thugs.

[J Arcane]

The combat in game seldom really requires of the player the level of aptitude required to really get into it.

Try the challenges, or going for streaks in the infinite mode.

Yeah, it's only two buttons (technically, there are other commands and moves in the game), but the timing and strategy required to keep going on up to a x200 combo is not as simple as it seems.

[Superman's Dead]

Yeah, to really feel like Batman you have to do quite a bit more than just use two buttons, especially if you're playing on a harder mode. I loved the combat system, because you had to think a few steps ahead for the harder encounters.

[Savok]

That it needed so few buttons, and could do so much is an indication of its excellence. That's proper design, it's about simplifying the controls while maintaining perfect function, not memorizing obnoxious 10 button combos. The depth is in the mechanics.

[biosc1]

Damn...I guess I should actually install and play the game.

[Exodus]

That it needed so few buttons, and could do so much is an indication of its excellence. That's proper design, it's about simplifying the controls while maintaining perfect function, not memorizing obnoxious 10 button combos. The depth is in the mechanics.

this, made me laugh

[muddi900]

That it needed so few buttons, and could do so much is an indication of its excellence. That's proper design, it's about simplifying the controls while maintaining perfect function, not memorizing obnoxious 10 button combos. The depth is in the mechanics.

Too many games fall in the Ninja Gaiden 'dial-a-combo' rap. Just because its a two-button combat system, doesn't mean its easy.

[c0m3d14n]

when i started playing batman i was surprised how much more entertaining and complex the combat was using so few buttons compared to the bland and boring combat in asscreed 1 using as many buttons

[MagGnome]

The PC version of Batman AA is great. The mouse and keyboard work quite well and the graphics are breathtaking. I got stuck at Bale and quite playing, but one of these days I'll return and finish the game.

I actually had a dream the other night where I was climbing around on a rooftop. I jumped down behind something and found a glowing green statue with a question mark on top. It's one of the few times I've dreamed about being in a video game.

[Savok]

this, made me laugh
This, made me angry.

Is it any wonder everything is awful these days.

[Exodus]

This, made me angry.

Is it any wonder everything is awful these days.

Nah you just only play shitty games. ;)

There's plenty of great ones out there.

[Savok]

Please tell me you're not in industry...

[MagGnome]

Please tell me you're not in industry...

He is.


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[MagGnome]

This isn't a "deal" per se, but I saw this game and thought some of you might be interested. It's called The Polynomial (http://store.steampowered.com/app/67000/), and it's a spaceflight game wherein the universe is made of music...or something like that. It looks intriguing, and at only $10 it might be worth a shot.