View Full Version : I think I'm going to quit my job tommorow
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 12:06 AM
Recently my boss has been showing extreme disrespect for most of her employees, many of whom are my friends, and now she has started the same thing to me while begging me to take on more responsibilities as a favor and not paying me as much as is standard for the people with these responsibilities (only a slight difference but it's more of a pride issue for me). So tomorrow I am going too make some demands that most likely will not be met, and then if they are not I will quit.
The thing is I've never actually looked for a job, ever since I got out of highschool friends have just kind of got me jobs, but I've lost touch with most my friends (except for the ones I am currently working with) so that probably isn't going to work this time.
So does anyone have any suggestions of how to go about finding a job?
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 12:12 AM
Dude, think about this. In this economy, you do not want to quit your job. Trust me.
Disgustipated
01-11-2009, 12:15 AM
Don't throw away your job because of pride, especially in this economy. Unless you can easily get another one, don't be a fool.
Mot Wakorb
01-11-2009, 12:18 AM
Bad idea. Shit economy generally leads to requirement of more duties. Pretty normal.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 12:26 AM
I'm just sick of this shit, I'm sick of watching my friends get fired and threatened with lawsuits for things as little as not following the dress code that wasn't even properly explained to them, I'm really fucking sick of being told I can't hang out with certain friends just because they work for our competitors (though I've openly refused to follow that rule its ridiculous that I have to be defiant over something like that), and I'm fucking tired of having a panic attack every time my phone rings.
Unless some shit changes I'm quitting, of course I guess there is always a chance that my demands will be met, I mean I have actually dared her to fire me before and she didn't.
JRR006
01-11-2009, 12:28 AM
As others have said, you'd have to be very brave to quit your job in these times. If you have the skillset and think you can swing it, more power to you, but personally I'd be keeping as tight a grip on my job as I could.
Disgustipated
01-11-2009, 12:28 AM
I'm just sick of this shit, I'm sick of watching my friends get fired and threatened with lawsuits for things as little as not following the dress code that wasn't even properly explained to them, I'm really fucking sick of being told I can't hang out with certain friends just because they work for our competitors (though I've openly refused to follow that rule its ridiculous that I have to be defiant over something like that), and I'm fucking tired of having a panic attack every time my phone rings.
Unless some shit changes I'm quitting, of course I guess there is always a chance that my demands will be met, I mean I have actually dared her to fire me before and she didn't.
What exactly do you do, and can you live without a job?
Superman's Dead
01-11-2009, 12:30 AM
Ugh. I know exactly what you're talking about.
I'd say begin to look for a job using the normal methods (paper, online job searches, etc.) and tough it out. Until you have a few leads I'd just keep working there, horrific as it may be.
Adam Blue
01-11-2009, 12:32 AM
I hated my job. Luckily I was able to find another job. I have one week left. And when the economy was 'good', I couldn't find another job.
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 12:34 AM
Your friends dont sign your check.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 12:35 AM
What exactly do you do, and can you live without a job?
I'm mainly a salesman but I do other stuff for the company I work for as well, and while I dont have any savings I can live without a job for a while because I have some friends who are always happy to let me crash with them, due mainly to my extremly stubborn and prideful nature that is leading me to quit my job.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 12:37 AM
Your friends dont sign your check.
Sure but with friends i always have a couch to sleep on and I never go hungry.
pomeroy
01-11-2009, 12:38 AM
Dude, I'm not going to encourage you to quit your job. But I will say that I've been in a situation where I was so unhappy that there was no way I could continue working at a place. I quit that job, and it wouldn't have mattered what the economy was doing. Mental health is important.
But this was back when it was easier to get another job. So good luck!
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 12:47 AM
Sure but with friends i always have a couch to sleep on and I never go hungry.
People in prison always have a couch to sleep on and never go hungry. Be smart, dont quit your job.
LongStepMantis
01-11-2009, 12:50 AM
If you really want to quit your job man, then do it. But find a new job first.
Searching for a job from unemployment is a terrible idea right now.
Even if you can crash at a friend's house...how long would you expect to stay there?
Even Mother Theresa would throw you out after a few months of freeloading. Friends grin and bear it for a while, but that ship will start to sink eventually.
harle
01-11-2009, 12:52 AM
Isn't Scientology headquartered in Clearwater, Florida? You could always join them and have a job forever. ;)
Seriously, though. Listen to what the others have said and keep your job. This is not the economy you want to go job hunting in, especially if you do not have a lot of experience with job hunting. If you do decide to quit, find jobs that are similar to the one you work for now and start networking.
Everyone vs Dinosaurs
01-11-2009, 02:03 AM
I'm not going to tell you what to do either way, because ultimately it is your decision. In actuality you already know what you are going to do, and just delaying the inevitable.
Although I am curious as to where you do work? (Not specifically, but the field)
hunterx280
01-11-2009, 02:32 AM
What is the likelihood that they will fire you? I would figure that if it's pretty high then quitting is going to look better than being fired to any future employers.
Gorvi
01-11-2009, 03:46 AM
Isn't Scientology headquartered in Clearwater, Florida? You could always join them and have a job forever. ;)
That it is, driving through downtown Clearwater is like going through some alternate universe where the zombies walk around in all the same casual dress. It's creepy.
Yeah, like others have said, don't just up and quit, not in this economy. If you really want to quit, at least try to have something else lined up first. Use some sick or vacation days to go on some interviews to secure yourself some income before leaving. Heck, I'm in your area, and I know my brother has had a tough time finding something after he was layed off, it's just not that simple.
Lutheran
01-11-2009, 03:47 AM
She may just say no to your demands and not fire you and you will have to quit which means no unemployment checks for you! Find something else first, then make your demands.
AcidCrashX
01-11-2009, 04:46 AM
that's a very big step dude. especially in the current state of the world. I dont think you should risk doing something rash like that and try to grin and bare it.
Purple Santa
01-11-2009, 05:24 AM
I hate to jump on the bandwagon too but listen to it. You don't want to quit your job. Ever. No one wants to be at a job under such mental stress. Is there a human resources there? You should be talking to them. You need to be documenting the alleged grievances. Will your boss get angrier that you took such action? Sounds like it. However, at least you are doing the right course of action legally by making someone in HR or the person above your boss, aware of the situation.
I know quitting seems like the best option. You play it out in your mind, you quit then you don't have to feel that stress. Of course it feels good to think that course of action. What happens though is you fail to realize taking the fastest solution causes the most problems afterward. In a video game, when you fighting an end level boss, is the solution one that it's a one quick kill? Or is it usually some kind of strategy to find a pattern you must do to finish them off? Usually going for the quick kill...gets you a game over screen. Except in life a game over isn't as easy as pushing the start button.
I recently "quit" something due to mental stress. I was told I had all the right reasons to do it. However the better solution was to talk to someone about it and at least wait until something else could be found so I didn't have to be in that situation any longer. It's now costing me an additional year of time of my life. The best solutions are rarely the ones that make us feel good instantly. I don't want to graze over that you are in a shitty situation. I believe everyone here is just trying to give you a better strategy for the "end boss" is all.
Johan
01-11-2009, 07:25 AM
Honestly, if you quit your job without another one lined up at this particular time and with things as bad as they are on the employment front, you are a fool. Most people have some degree of annoyance about their job, because it's work, you have someone who tells you what to do, and there's always someone else who gets paid more or better benefits, somewhere.
If you quit your job without another one lined up, you let us know how that turns out for you. I think it will end badly. :(
Stmfuller
01-11-2009, 07:28 AM
I'm mainly a salesman but I do other stuff for the company I work for as well, and while I dont have any savings I can live without a job for a while because I have some friends who are always happy to let me crash with them, due mainly to my extremly stubborn and prideful nature that is leading me to quit my job.
Oh god, put your resume out on careerbuilder or monster, you'll have 20 emails with idiots begging you to come work for them within the week. You could be starting your new job by the end of the month.
seriously. Everytime I update my resume (in sales too), I get hundreds of Emails from all kinds of sales companies looking for people.
A salesman is never out of work, they're just working on their next lead.
The hard part is once you're in, trying to find a position that gets you out :(
maharahaj
01-11-2009, 07:35 AM
Ride it out Jimmy. A shitty job with unfair pay is better than no job. If you are convinced that you will eventually work somewhere else in the near future, you'll find that this stuff done by her won't get you as angry. Just think to yourself "this is only temporarily" or "fuck you, you are going to be hurting once the economy turns around and all these workers of yours jump ship". It will get you through it.
OldeWolf
01-11-2009, 07:42 AM
I just can't say it any better than what the guys said above, just can't say it any better.
Please, for the sake of your personal growth as a human being, listen to them.
Edit:
Oh and where I work, ALL the staffs are taking on more work in effort to help our company cut back on costs of various things due to our economy. It's sadly normal.
Drayven
01-11-2009, 08:22 AM
If you do decide to quit can you PM me the company name/address you work for? I need a job :P
civil
01-11-2009, 08:43 AM
Another for the Don't Quit side.
Tough it out a few weeks while you look for something else. When you do find it go after it with all your professional know-how. Then when the job is secure present what's happening to your boss with your "demands". If she agrees, then stay. If she doesn't you have something lined up. Don't rely on your friends to bail you out.
Quitting will not allow you to get unemployment benefits, no matter what your reason may be. And if your career option is crashing at a friends' houses for a while...well, good luck in life not just with work. I have a feeling you've got some growing to do there, son. I know I'm coming off as a dick, and that's okay, but you'll need someone to kick the boy out of you to make room for the man. I might as well start it off with a little post in a thread.
Johan
01-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Quitting will not allow you to get unemployment benefits, no matter what your reason may be. And if your career option is crashing at a friends' houses for a while...well, good luck in life not just with work. I have a feeling you've got some growing to do there, son. I know I'm coming off as a dick, and that's okay, but you'll need someone to kick the boy out of you to make room for the man. I might as well start it off with a little post in a thread.
I think you said it very well. You come off as civil. :D
har har with the play on words thar!
Karmakin
01-11-2009, 08:54 AM
If that's true, and she threatened people with LAWSUITS (wtf?) for not following the dress code..not saying that I don't believe you...actually I do...then what you need to do is get in touch with your local labor board and see what they can do for you.
In short, you need to be doing HER job with her ass out on the street sleeping on couches.
Purple Santa
01-11-2009, 09:30 AM
Edit:
Oh and where I work, ALL the staffs are taking on more work in effort to help our company cut back on costs of various things due to our economy. It's SADLY normal.
Is that the sister of ABBY normal? :D
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 09:32 AM
Oh god, put your resume out on careerbuilder or monster, you'll have 20 emails with idiots begging you to come work for them within the week. You could be starting your new job by the end of the month.
seriously. Everytime I update my resume (in sales too), I get hundreds of Emails from all kinds of sales companies looking for people.
A salesman is never out of work, they're just working on their next lead.
The hard part is once you're in, trying to find a position that gets you out :(
That makes me feel alot better.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-11-2009, 09:35 AM
Edit:
Oh and where I work, ALL the staffs are taking on more work in effort to help our company cut back on costs of various things due to our economy. It's sadly normal.
The difference is all the other people taking on more work are getting paid more than me, despite the fact that I didn't want a promotion, and only took it because my boss was begging me too.
maharahaj
01-11-2009, 10:26 AM
Quitting will not allow you to get unemployment benefits, no matter what your reason may be. And if your career option is crashing at a friends' houses for a while...well, good luck in life not just with work. I have a feeling you've got some growing to do there, son. I know I'm coming off as a dick, and that's okay, but you'll need someone to kick the boy out of you to make room for the man. I might as well start it off with a little post in a thread.
It's not really harsh; it's poignant. The OP should heed Civil's words. He is correct on this matter.
Bad Buddha
01-11-2009, 11:24 AM
You should quit, leach off your friends for several months until they lose all respect for you, and then go back and live with mom & dad until they kick you out. It will be a good life lesson for when the economy turns around and you're willing to take any minimum-wage job that is offered to you.
diablopath
01-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Or you could go to NYC with me to squat.
It'll be fuuuuun!
Johan
01-11-2009, 12:00 PM
It's not really harsh; it's poignant.
Exactly. Now, if you want some "harsh" you have this:
You should quit, leach off your friends for several months until they lose all respect for you, and then go back and live with mom & dad until they kick you out. It will be a good life lesson for when the economy turns around and you're willing to take any minimum-wage job that is offered to you.
Harsh.
But, you know what? It's the truth. Life is a cruel mistress. Sometimes, she kicks the hell out of you. But it's only because she doesn't love you. :D
LordDon
01-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Add me to the list of find-a-new-job-first-THEN-burn-the-bridge group.
GunnyMo
01-11-2009, 12:16 PM
That makes me feel alot better.
Speaking as someone from sales, that post you replied to is crap. 20 emails from "insurance" companies or "investment firms" are the spam of job boards.
As others have said, quitting your job in this economy is the dumbest move you can make. It is an employers market and what do you think they are going to do when they see on your resume, or in the interview, that you quit your last job because you didn't like your boss? Do you honestly think they will hire you? Employers can pick and choose who they want in this market.
You must have some ignorant friends. Letting you crash on their sofa, use their electricity and eat their food because you quit a job in this economy? Wow.
But, hey, we all have to do moronic things in life to learn. Enjoy the lesson.
Purple Santa
01-11-2009, 12:59 PM
I'm hoping by now, someone has been shamed into changing their mind. Or if nothing else...not to post their decision in this forum...ever...
zarathstra
01-11-2009, 01:19 PM
Please don't quit your job, I guarantee you'll regret it. Employers will be much less likely to hire you if they feel like you're going to bail if you don't like your boss, and you certainly won't be getting any references from your old employers. Plus, you won't be able to get unemployment. Put up with it while you look for something else.
Sl1pstream
01-11-2009, 01:59 PM
Quit your job and start a blog about how hard it is to find a new job, with daily updates. Try mixing your quest for a new job with random thoughts about your current job and how horrible your boss is/was. It'll be hysterical!
Or be smart and keep your job. Showing solidarity by leaving yourself isn't going to help your friends.
Superman's Dead
01-11-2009, 02:08 PM
This has been getting...uh...I think it's almost turned into an insult-fest. I understand how important a job is and that it can be difficult to find one (especially in your field) for a wide variety of reasons.
But I know for a fact that if one of my friends was fired for no reason or harassed in any way by my boss I'd step up to the plate. Maybe by going over their head instead of quitting, but if your friends are that important to you chances are you're that important to your friends.
Sl1pstream
01-11-2009, 02:29 PM
But I know for a fact that if one of my friends was fired for no reason or harassed in any way by my boss I'd step up to the plate. Maybe by going over their head instead of quitting, but if your friends are that important to you chances are you're that important to your friends.
Step up to the plate? Really?
"Well, my friends just lost their job and income, the best thing I can do is lose my income too!"
Johan
01-11-2009, 02:37 PM
I know for a fact that if one of my friends was fired for no reason or harassed in any way by my boss I'd step up to the plate.
Me to. After all, I gotta eat, right? And that food is on my plate, isn't it?
Yum. Fooooood. :D
Oh, wait...what was that?
Sandman
01-11-2009, 02:42 PM
It's probably been said already but it's much easier to get a job when you have one than when you don't have one.
KingGorilla
01-11-2009, 02:55 PM
Please don't quit your job, I guarantee you'll regret it. Employers will be much less likely to hire you if they feel like you're going to bail if you don't like your boss, and you certainly won't be getting any references from your old employers. Plus, you won't be able to get unemployment. Put up with it while you look for something else.
While I do agree with the premise and the conclusion. It will not harm references. Employers are so afraid of being sued that you have to go out of your way to get a bad reference. Quitting, on the other hand, for any reason other than "he touched my PP" is a bad idea. Suffer through, make sure you keep pounding the pavement-Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, call your local job agencies. Call your state government see what resources and programs are available, look online to see if any business groups or seminars are taking place.
Vermillion
01-11-2009, 02:55 PM
Here is how you should play this out
- Get another job lined up, one where they will make you an offer. They do not have to contact your current employeer as part of the hiring process and you can explain the situation to them (do so in a way that does not look like you are bashing your boss, they hate that)
- Once you have offer in hand, go into your current job and make a list of changes to your employment you would like to have made. Since you already want to quit, this is just moot
- If they reject your requests, simply thank them for their consideration on the matter
- Accept the other job
- If you wish to screw over your current employer, simply notify them of your termination of employment the day before you start the new job. This will screw them over on back filling your position in a timely factor, screw over whomever has to take on your additional responsibilities, and burn that employeer from ever hiring you again. Not the most upstanding thing to do, but you seem hell bent on "teaching them a lesson".
If you truly dislike your current employeer, let them keep paying you until you get another job. Just quitting is more screwing yourself over than them, because they can backfill you quicker than you can probably find another job.
Superman's Dead
01-11-2009, 02:56 PM
I should just not talk.
Good luck, Shamrock.
Vermillion
01-11-2009, 02:57 PM
Anything you can delete I can delete better. I can delete anything better than you.
No you can't...
Stmfuller
01-11-2009, 03:06 PM
Speaking as someone from sales, that post you replied to is crap. 20 emails from "insurance" companies or "investment firms" are the spam of job boards.Well there is a lot of that, but generally I get mostly emails from companies in the same field as mine (tech). I don't count insurance and the like because I'm not interested in those.
I've had two genuine Emails from interested tech firms in the last week, and I haven't updated my online resume in months.
The bottom line is those interested and motivated to find new work can and will. Mr. OP here is obviously looking to move on, the last thing I want to do is lie and say it's impossible to find work (like 99% of the other posters here), cause that's just not true at all.
If he's good at his job (and being in sales, he should be awesome at selling himself), he should have no trouble finding work. Sales is ALWAYS hiring.
Jason
01-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Sales is ALWAYS hiring.
Might not be true. The economy is going to a place not seen in our lifetimes. It could very well turn out that there will be no sales to be had for any salesmen( and women). I work for suddenlink, the cable company, and the goal according to our VP is to keep the existing workforce in place, not to hire new people for this year. From what everyone has said, they never lay people off, but that could change this year.
Johan
01-11-2009, 05:02 PM
The bottom line is those interested and motivated to find new work can and will...Sales is ALWAYS hiring.
The above post makes the very valid point that we're in uncharted economic waters, at least in our lifetime, and all bets are basically off.
As for finding work, there will always be jobs around. The key isn't just finding a job, it's finding a job that doesn't involve taking pay and benefit cuts that put you out of your home and the like.
THAT is a reality for people right now. Millions of people. Of ALL the times to be thinking of quitting a job without another one lined up, our current conditions make this time, kindly put, not such a time.
Church42
01-11-2009, 05:47 PM
while I dont have any savings I can live without a job for a while because I have some friends who are always happy to let me crash with them, due mainly to my extremly stubborn and prideful nature that is leading me to quit my job.
I LOL'ed here.
Sorry, but if you quit now, the School of Real Life will kick your ass.
Start saving, keep working. Unless your friends are in a missionary, friends are friends because they enjoy spending time with you instead of being your parent by clothing, feeding, and keeping a roof over your head.
Your friends may be charitable for awhile and then when THEIR bottom line starts taking the hit b/c of your stupidity, they'll be using half-baked excuses about their parents coming by saying, "you need to leave before they get here".
One buddy of mine in a different part of the country tried this for awhile and many a night he was dialing up friends at the last minute for a place to crash or pondering sleeping in his car because he had used up his goodwill he had w/ what friends he had left.
Sorry if this sounds preachy or harsh, but unless you have a new job lined up, I'd stay where you are and try HR.
Stmfuller
01-11-2009, 07:49 PM
The above post makes the very valid point that we're in uncharted economic waters, at least in our lifetime, and all bets are basically off.
As for finding work, there will always be jobs around. The key isn't just finding a job, it's finding a job that doesn't involve taking pay and benefit cuts that put you out of your home and the like.
THAT is a reality for people right now. Millions of people. Of ALL the times to be thinking of quitting a job without another one lined up, our current conditions make this time, kindly put, not such a time.
I don't think I ever said quit w/out having something else lined up. My wife has been out of work for over a year...so I know the stress of the times we live in.
But the dude's in sales...these are NOT tough jobs to land, I guess all I'm saying is that if he really wants to move jobs, he should be able to if he's motivated to do so.
Stmfuller
01-11-2009, 07:53 PM
From what everyone has said, they never lay people off, but that could change this year. Do you know why sales organizations can say this? Because a sales office can grow and contract as the market dictates. Of course they don't lay anyone off...if you can't make your goal, they can can your ass...
pseudopseudo
01-11-2009, 09:06 PM
I just had to put in my two cents, because of the "we're all doing more work, but they're all getting paid more than I am" statement.
At my radio station, we've had roughly around a third of our staff let go in the past 3 months. A lot of the people let go were higher-salaried people who did a TON of important work to keep this place going. Instead of hiring cheaper replacements - everyone that's left is just doing those people's work.
I was one of those let go, and then I was rehired on (part-time) a couple weeks later - and I easily have double the workload now than before I got let go. For WAY less money. And I have to all my work in less time. (I have a set number of hours per week... if I don't get stuff done, it's my ass.) It sucks more than you could imagine. Yet, I can't complain because I'm just *that* happy to have a job. I've been doing job searching in what little free time I have these days, and NO ONE is hiring in my field.
If you feel that you absolutely can't handle it - then at least be smart about it. Get a job lined up before you quit. Then just quit one place to work for the other. Really, the ultimate "fuck you" to your boss would be to tell him/her that you're leaving the company for a new job because you couldn't stand his/her behavior anymore.
And for the love of all things holy - follow the advice of people here and DON'T couch surf. Your friends may be all about helping you out, but goodwill only goes so far. Even best friends can have a relationship wrecked when a friend overstays his welcome.
Do yourself a favor and handle things responsibly.
PathMaster
01-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Speaking as someone who was laid off late last February (Yes 10 months of not working), it is hard as hell to find a job in this market.
Finding another job while still working might be the best option, but its going to be rough whatever you decide.
DeathtollWRX
01-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Here is how you should play this out
- Get another job lined up, one where they will make you an offer. They do not have to contact your current employeer as part of the hiring process and you can explain the situation to them (do so in a way that does not look like you are bashing your boss, they hate that)
- Once you have offer in hand, go into your current job and make a list of changes to your employment you would like to have made. Since you already want to quit, this is just moot
- If they reject your requests, simply thank them for their consideration on the matter
- Accept the other job
- If you wish to screw over your current employer, simply notify them of your termination of employment the day before you start the new job. This will screw them over on back filling your position in a timely factor, screw over whomever has to take on your additional responsibilities, and burn that employeer from ever hiring you again. Not the most upstanding thing to do, but you seem hell bent on "teaching them a lesson".
If you truly dislike your current employeer, let them keep paying you until you get another job. Just quitting is more screwing yourself over than them, because they can backfill you quicker than you can probably find another job.
I wouldn't suggest burning bridges but that does sound fun.
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 09:44 PM
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Unless some shit changes I'm quitting, of course I guess there is always a chance that my demands will be met, I mean I have actually dared her to fire me before and she didn't.
Jimmy, I think there is one very important thing that you're missing here. Please don't take this as an insult or form of disrespect. Unless you are under contract (union or otherwise), you are considered an at will employees. Unless this business cannot run without you, at will employees are rarely in any position to make demands. I have had employees that have come to me with demands such as workload, shitty hours, problems with uniform requirements, etc... My answer each and every time is, "If you're not happy, you're free to leave". Remember, you are the employee, you do not run the employer's business. If she wants to have certain uniform standards, increase your workload, and fire your friends she has the right to do so. You are not in a position to demand anything from her. No disrespect, but if I were your boss I would have let you go as soon as you dared me to fire you.
Good luck, whatever happens.
pseudopseudo
01-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Unless you are under contract (union or otherwise), you are considered an at will employees.
Hell, I was under contract and it was still written in that the company could terminate me at-will. Seems like no one's safe.
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 11:07 PM
Hell, I was under contract and it was still written in that the company could terminate me at-will. Seems like no one's safe.
Right, but that was in the contract that YOU signed. You knew that was possible upon signing with them.
pseudopseudo
01-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Right, but that was in the contract that YOU signed. You knew that was possible upon signing with them.
Right. I wasn't complaining. I'm just saying that even in most contracts these days, there's still an out written in for the company for situations like the one right now.
Lots of people let go from the company I work for incorrectly assumed that "under contract" meant "I can't get laid off". In a situation already full of hostility, that just added more fuel to the fire. No fun.
Seconds Out
01-11-2009, 11:18 PM
Right. I wasn't complaining. I'm just saying that even in most contracts these days, there's still an out written in for the company for situations like the one right now.
Lots of people let go from the company I work for incorrectly assumed that "under contract" meant "I can't get laid off". In a situation already full of hostility, that just added more fuel to the fire. No fun.
I hear ya. The only contracts I've dealt with are union (on the management side). I wish you the best of luck with your job search.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-12-2009, 11:13 AM
I quit, took 2/3 of the colorado sales team with me and got offered a job within about an hour of quitting, and I'm talking to a guy about another job selling sham-wows (which are like the easiest thing in the world to sell).
For those who are saying that crashing at friends houses is going to piss them off, I've built up alot of goodwill with my friends, I've loaned them the last of my money when they had none, I've driven 4 hours to help friends move,and I'm always there to help them out and very rarely ask them for help.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-12-2009, 11:15 AM
Jimmy, I think there is one very important thing that you're missing here. Please don't take this as an insult or form of disrespect. Unless you are under contract (union or otherwise), you are considered an at will employees. Unless this business cannot run without you, at will employees are rarely in any position to make demands. I have had employees that have come to me with demands such as workload, shitty hours, problems with uniform requirements, etc... My answer each and every time is, "If you're not happy, you're free to leave". Remember, you are the employee, you do not run the employer's business. If she wants to have certain uniform standards, increase your workload, and fire your friends she has the right to do so. You are not in a position to demand anything from her. No disrespect, but if I were your boss I would have let you go as soon as you dared me to fire you.
Good luck, whatever happens.
Honestly there were so many times when I expected to be fired (and I'm sure I would have deserved it a couple of times) but for some reason wasn't.
Johan
01-12-2009, 11:28 AM
I quit.
Re-post to this thread in a month. I'm genuinely curious how things will shake out for you, and not just in a "rubber-necking the crash" kind of way. :)
Good luck!
ShivaX
01-12-2009, 11:33 AM
I'm talking to a guy about another job selling sham-wows (which are like the easiest thing in the world to sell).
As long as you don't have to wear that headset and be a douche, more power to ya. ;)
Seriously I hate the Sham-Wow guy.
civil
01-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Awesome news, man. I still stand by what I posted earlier, but that is awesome news. I hope things work out for you and the others.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-12-2009, 01:44 PM
As long as you don't have to wear that headset and be a douche, more power to ya. ;)
Seriously I hate the Sham-Wow guy.
So does my cousin, I recently told him that I run into the guy from the infomercial sometimes and he said he wanted to punch him in the face.
Purple Santa
01-12-2009, 01:50 PM
Re-post to this thread in a month. I'm genuinely curious how things will shake out for you, and not just in a "rubber-necking the crash" kind of way. :)
Good luck!
I think we all are. And i'm sure we are all surprised to see him quit and only to find another job within an hour. I think 99% of the time, that doesn't happen. The world of sales is definitely a different world.
Like Johan said...post an update in a month.
Sandman
01-12-2009, 02:01 PM
So does my cousin, I recently told him that I run into the guy from the infomercial sometimes and he said he wanted to punch him in the face.
I saw that guy on tv this morning hawking some other product called Slapchop in the same style. I still wanted to punch him in the face.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-12-2009, 02:19 PM
I think we all are. And i'm sure we are all surprised to see him quit and only to find another job within an hour. I think 99% of the time, that doesn't happen. The world of sales is definitely a different world.
Like Johan said...post an update in a month.
Well the main reason I was able to get a job offer so fast is because I can be damn charming, and gosh dang it people like me.
Johan
01-12-2009, 02:21 PM
Well the main reason I was able to get a job offer so fast is because I can be damn charming, and gosh dang it people like me.
You're a senator from Minnesota, too? :confused:
If you need the link, you're WEAK in the realm of pop knowledge, I tell you...WEAK! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Smalley)
AniAko
01-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Glad things worked out for you in the end. Just let it be known that you took a big risk and that the advice given here was in fact the best. (as far as quitting without notice and no job lined up) In the end only you can evaluate your situation.
Church42
01-12-2009, 06:01 PM
I saw that guy on tv this morning hawking some other product called Slapchop in the same style. I still wanted to punch him in the face.
Is that the commercial where he tells the camera guy to "watch my nuts"?
Stmfuller
01-12-2009, 06:37 PM
The world of sales is definitely a different world.
Like Johan said...post an update in a month.
Actually, I think I called it.
and people called me mad.
MAD!!!
MAD I SAY!!!
See what you all don't understand is that sales jobs are purely a revolving door. They're ALWAYS hiring and ALWAYS firing. They're easy to get and hard to keep.
Please post your updates in a month, my guess is that within 6 he'll probably be looking for something else as this job will have bottomed out...but I've been wrong before. It's really a coin flip at this point
pseudopseudo
01-12-2009, 09:22 PM
Is that the commercial where he tells the camera guy to "watch my nuts"?
Indeed. He also tells you that the Slap Chop will let you have a "more exciting life".
"Vince" annoys me more than the Dell guy did, and that's saying a lot.
Everyone vs Dinosaurs
01-12-2009, 10:07 PM
Sham-WOW?
(I for some reason actually like this parody)
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LongStepMantis
01-13-2009, 12:41 AM
Sham-WOW?
(I for some reason actually like this parody)
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Do you have energy legs!? Oldie but classic.
And it's sequel.
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Purple Santa
01-13-2009, 04:20 AM
Actually, I think I called it.
and people called me mad.
MAD!!!
MAD I SAY!!!
See what you all don't understand is that sales jobs are purely a revolving door. They're ALWAYS hiring and ALWAYS firing. They're easy to get and hard to keep.
Please post your updates in a month, my guess is that within 6 he'll probably be looking for something else as this job will have bottomed out...but I've been wrong before. It's really a coin flip at this point
My grandfather was a salesman so I do understand your view when you posted it. It really is a different world, as I watched my grandfather live it and love it. There wasn't a time when he wasn't selling although eventually he had to "retire" due to illness. But he was always changing jobs, moving on from one experience to the next. I don't know if ALL sales is like that. I think there is a portion of it that likes the "challenge" and their personality fits that type of moving around. I figure right now my grandfather is trying to sell some angels a cloud or something. I don't think even death could stop him from selling...
rifter
01-13-2009, 09:04 AM
At my radio station, we've had roughly around a third of our staff let go in the past 3 months. A lot of the people let go were higher-salaried people who did a TON of important work to keep this place going. Instead of hiring cheaper replacements - everyone that's left is just doing those people's work.
You know, I loved my stint at a radio station, but this is the reason I never went for it, as a career. WAY too flaky for my tastes. Out of everyone I worked with, I know of 3 that are still in the business. And THOSE 3 have bounced around to most of the stations in town.
I am talking about on-air... not back-end support. Though, it seemed like the back-end people never kept their jobs long, either.
PathMaster
01-13-2009, 02:56 PM
I would also like to know how things are going a month from now.
And as a threadjack, does Sham-Wow actually work?
DylonCorp
01-13-2009, 02:58 PM
And as a threadjack, does Sham-Wow actually work?
Well, it's made by the Germans; you know they make great stuff.
Stmfuller
01-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Well, it's made by the Germans; you know they make great stuff.
Just, you've got to make sure you beware of immatators
DylonCorp
01-13-2009, 03:02 PM
Just, you've got to make sure you beware of immatators
Cut a big one in half, use one half for a bathmat, the other for your boat!
What the hell is that guys problem?
Stmfuller
01-13-2009, 03:40 PM
Cut a big one in half, use one half for a bathmat, the other for your boat!
What the hell is that guys problem?
It's actually my 2nd favorite infomertial "short".
My first is for the snuggie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZp-GLMMJ0
Any commerical that can suggest with a straight face that a blanket is too hard to use is #1 in my book.
axion
01-13-2009, 03:53 PM
I vote that he change his name to Shamwow Jimmy.
Stmfuller
01-13-2009, 03:57 PM
I vote that he change his name to Shamwow Jimmy.
Seconded...
too short.
Everyone vs Dinosaurs
01-13-2009, 03:57 PM
I vote that he change his name to Shamwow Jimmy.
Or Shawn Wow.
I vote that he change his name to Shamwow Jimmy.
Yes.
Or Shawn Wow.
And also yes.
Seconds Out
01-13-2009, 04:05 PM
It's actually my 2nd favorite infomertial "short".
My first is for the snuggie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZp-GLMMJ0
Any commerical that can suggest with a straight face that a blanket is too hard to use is #1 in my book.
Snuggie???? You mean your favorite isnt for The Amish Heatsurge???
axion
01-13-2009, 04:08 PM
Or the Tiddy Bear (100% real product).
gw1g2yKxb0I
Johan
01-13-2009, 04:15 PM
That can't be real, axion. No way. Can it? Oh my...
Ghostbear
01-13-2009, 04:21 PM
TO Mr. Shamrock,
Stop being a drama queen dumbass.
Thank you,
Management.
Everyone vs Dinosaurs
01-13-2009, 04:23 PM
Or the Tiddy Bear (100% real product).
gw1g2yKxb0I
To warm up the Tidds, as well as keep them safe.
Church42
01-13-2009, 05:23 PM
Well, it's made by the Germans; you know they make great stuff.
And it holds 20 times its weight in liquids. Plus Olympic divers use it as a towel.
Purple Santa
01-13-2009, 05:30 PM
That can't be real, axion. No way. Can it? Oh my...
It's very very real :p
Church42
01-13-2009, 05:30 PM
Indeed. He also tells you that the Slap Chop will let you have a "more exciting life".
"Vince" annoys me more than the Dell guy did, and that's saying a lot.
Actually I'm wrong...in the Slap Chop commercial "Vince" says we are all going to love his nuts.
Stmfuller
01-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Or the Tiddy Bear (100% real product).
My wife asked if that was a SNL commerical...hilarious.
pseudopseudo
01-13-2009, 08:16 PM
You know, I loved my stint at a radio station, but this is the reason I never went for it, as a career. WAY too flaky for my tastes. Out of everyone I worked with, I know of 3 that are still in the business. And THOSE 3 have bounced around to most of the stations in town.
I am talking about on-air... not back-end support. Though, it seemed like the back-end people never kept their jobs long, either.
Most of the cut jobs WERE back-end support people. The only on-air staff that really got the axe were part-timers. 'Cept for one guy on our rock station, who they had just hired (and flew him in from Florida) two months prior.
Shamrock Jimmy
01-14-2009, 12:50 AM
TO Mr. Shamrock,
Stop being a drama queen dumbass.
Thank you,
Management.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/themoose1988/middlefinger-1.jpg
Purple Santa
01-14-2009, 04:49 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/themoose1988/middlefinger-1.jpg
Careful, your maturity is showing. You posted a personal item from your life on a community forum. You should expect some answers or replies that you will not agree with and others that will offend you. But you posted it. You have to take the good with the bad.
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