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AgtFox
10-03-2008, 08:30 AM
LEGO Batman Review

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=423Title: LEGO Batman
Platform: 360/PS3 and all other platforms, including Steam
Developer: Traveller’s Tale (http://www.ttgames.com/)
Publisher: Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment (http://www.warnerbros.com/#/page=video-games/)
ESRB: Everyone 10+
MSRP: $49.99 (360 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000ZKBJY6/ref=nosim/cog-20)/PS3 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000ZKBJY6/ref=nosim/cog-20))
Editor: Loren 'AgtFox' Halek

What's Hot: Best LEGO game yet, playing as the villains, original story, a lot of funny parts

What's Not: the LEGO gameplay template is getting long in the toothLEGO Batman is the newest game in a series that has seen two Star Wars games and an Indiana Jones game. This newest one is probably the best one by Traveller’s Tale so far, most likely because it has an original story and does not need to rely on repurposing the story of motion pictures into a game. Here we have a game built upon playing as both the heroes and villains through three hub episodes on each side.

The very opening of the game sees the Rogue Gallery breaking out of Gotham and splitting into groups with the Riddler leading one, Penguin another and Joker all by himself. That is how the episodes are divided and you can choose any episode you want. I decided to go through them in order of course, so I started with the Riddler’s five stages. He brought with him the likes of Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Two-Face. Each of the stages is centered on at least one of them. In fact, before each stage they have a short text explaining who the Batman enemy is and their backstory which will of course help people that don’t know much about the comic universe.

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The first thing I realized playing through these initial stages was that there were several places where Batman and Robin were useless to do anything such as move items with orangish handles on them. Anyone that has played a previous LEGO game knows that you can later come back to it once all characters are unlocked and you can freeplay through the game. This is a common LEGO game staple by now, so no one should be too surprised by this revelation. There is at least one cool thing in this game though and that is that Batman and Robin can change suits at stations they either build via uncovered bouncing LEGO blocks or ones that are already there. Batman can put suits on that allow him to glide over chasms, use bombs to blow up silver LEGO items, a suit with a sonic gun to crack windows and wear a red suit to survive through hot areas. Robin’s suits are one with magnetic feet to walk up magnetic areas, a technological backpack suit that lets him use electronics, an attract suit that lets him vacuum up LEGOs and an underwater suit that allows him to go to the bottom of water tanks. When you gain use of other Batman heroes like Nightwing and Batgirl, they can also use many of these suits. The suits add a different element to this game than previous LEGO games, so it is much appreciated.

Once through the Riddler section or one of the other two episodes, you can go back to the Batcave and pull a level by two screens that will then change the perspective to Arkham Asylum and allow you to play as the villains from the episode you just completed. You play through a number of episodes as different villains, usually one of which is the main enemy in the episode. You play through episodes revolving around their setup of the plan that Batman and Robin foil. On the villain side you start to run into characters with super strength (Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, etc.) and ones that have special abilities such as Ivy, Two-Face and Clayface’s ability to walk through acid or Riddler’s ability to hypnotize people with his cane. Those are just a few extra options that the villains have over the heroes. The places I talked about above where Batman and Robin couldn’t do anything, characters like Clayface could move something that requires super strength. Playing as the villains is easily the draw in this game because their sections are far more fun than the hero side of things. Add into this the fact that if you went through just the good guy’s side of the game it would be over pretty quick and makes the game shorter than the others.

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Much like the other LEGO games there are a ton of characters to unlock on both the hero and villain side of things. Also like previous games, after you beat the game once it is totally up to you whether you want to go for the whole 100% or not by going through each episode via freeplay and unlocking all the stuff in them with different characters. I personally usually have so many games to play that I don’t do much with the backtracking and collect-o-thon that this kind of thing turns into. Your mileage will always vary in this case, but the fact is that LEGO Batman has the same type of replay value as the other games have had.

It is also important to note that this game does have co-op gameplay in it, but you can only play locally and not online. As I was playing through by myself I was finding that my friendly AI was even more useless than I remember it being in LEGO Indiana Jones. You almost always have to beat up the enemies and do everything. The game almost calls out for you to play co-op with a family member. Playing with another person makes the game that much more fun than playing through it by yourself. That is not to say the game isn’t enjoyable by yourself, but chances are you’ll have more fun with someone else.

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The only thing that holds this game from being classic in my mind is that the LEGO game template has become a bit long in the tooth. You destroy everything to get a boatload of LEGO pieces, play through a puzzle or two and maybe drive a vehicle here and there. All they are essentially doing is putting different characters in the same sort of gameplay template we’ve seen before with different level design. Is this a bad thing though? Probably not because children for sure are going to love the game and older people will probably enjoy it for the Batman information it provides and the story/funny parts it contains

LEGO Batman is an easy buy recommendation, but certainly not the classic it could have been since it is essentially the same gameplay in a different suit. Traveller’s Tale can certainly continue popping these games out and making lots of money for their publisher, but maybe trying another angle with these all-ages LEGO games would be a good change of pace. Come for the playable heroes, but stay for the villain’s side of the coin and you’ll have a lot of fun.

Score: 4 out of 5 CoGs
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Loren says, "Buy It!"

- Check out a co-op specific review (http://www.co-optimus.com/review/82/LEGO_Batman_Co-Op_Review.html) of this very game over at Co-Optimus (http://www.co-optimus.com)

- Review this title yourself (http://www.playitreviewit.com/reviews/write) over at Play It Review It (http://www.playitreviewit.com)

*Note: Review is based upon 360 version of the game

bapenguin
10-03-2008, 08:38 AM
Nice job! I love the new format.

roboninja
10-03-2008, 08:48 AM
Nice review, Fox. Of course, I would be remiss not to mention that the Steam version is only $29.99 :) I might pick that up.

EDIT: The links at the bottom are a good idea.

AniAko
10-03-2008, 08:48 AM
I swear, if you guys get any more clever with integrating the site, I'll just SHIT! :D Awesome review Agt :)

Typical Michael
10-03-2008, 08:52 AM
I am getting this for my birthday, I'm excited.

AgtFox
10-03-2008, 08:55 AM
Nice review, Fox. Of course, I would be remiss not to mention that the Steam version is only $29.99 :) I might pick that up.

EDIT: The links at the bottom are a good idea.
I can put in the rest of the systems and prices, but I felt it would get to be a bit too long of a line considering this game is out for pretty much every system.

The links to the systems at the top are Amazon referrals btw and help the CoG Network as a whole (i.e. not just this site) if you use them.

I did put in "including Steam" on the platform line.

Cupelix
10-03-2008, 08:58 AM
My wife and I still haven't finished our trips through Lego Star Wars, despite my love for the SW universe. I carry a Batman pocket watch, so hopefully this will have a level of charm that gets me through the game, since they do tend to get a little repetitive. I wonder if my wife will fight me for control over Batman...

P.S. I love the new user titles.

AgtFox
10-03-2008, 09:05 AM
Oh yes, I hope to find some way to make the box for What's Hot/Not smaller than it is. Have to figure out how to do a graphic box instead of using a quote for it. It's the only thing that looks really odd in the reviews, but it does its job for the moment.

TheFlyingOrc
10-03-2008, 09:07 AM
It's definitely a step above LEGO Indiana Jones. Funnier, better designed, and longer.

dotbomb
10-03-2008, 09:11 AM
Nice review. My 5 year old has seen the commercials for this and is chomping at the bit to get it since we played through lego star wars together. Christmas is right around the corner. Both of us can't wait!

SPBTooL
10-03-2008, 09:41 AM
Good review. My oldest girl is starting to get to an age where she can really play. It might be time I start stacking up on these types of games.

roboninja
10-03-2008, 09:43 AM
I can put in the rest of the systems and prices, but I felt it would get to be a bit too long of a line considering this game is out for pretty much every system.

The links to the systems at the top are Amazon referrals btw and help the CoG Network as a whole (i.e. not just this site) if you use them.

I did put in "including Steam" on the platform line.

Hey, no worries. I just wanted to point out the surprisingly low price on Steam. I would pick this up for the PS3 instead, as action/platformers tend to be better on consoles. But with the $20 price difference, I might just stick with Steam.

Spigot
10-03-2008, 10:03 AM
I feel like an idiot, but I couldn't beat Mr. Freeze when I was renting this. I was playing the PS2 version and it just didn't feel 100%... I want to rent the 360 version and take it for a spin.

Telefrog
10-03-2008, 10:34 AM
Great review! I would add that although the Traveller's Tale LEGO gameplay conventions are getting long in the tooth, most kids don't care. In fact, my kids would be happy if these don't change one iota from installment to installment.

AgtFox
10-03-2008, 10:44 AM
Great review! I would add that although the Traveller's Tale LEGO gameplay conventions are getting long in the tooth, most kids don't care. In fact, my kids would be happy if these don't change one iota from installment to installment.
Yeah, I put that in the 2nd to last paragraph where children probably won't care and older people will still enjoy the game.

Blue
10-03-2008, 11:39 AM
Awesome review, thanks Fox.

My buddy picked this up for the Wii when it came out and we played through the first few missions. While I agree that the formula is getting a bit stale, it's surprising how just a Batman coat of paint can make me re-fall in love with the series. Fun levels, cute puzzles and a must for any Batman fan.

Once the holiday season winds down and we hit the dry season, I think I'll settle down and pick this up. Fun game.

DjinniMan
10-03-2008, 11:50 AM
Well done on your review, you pretty much nailed it. Did you find it to be shorter or longer than Indy? I thought it was far shorter, but could be because I liked it more.

AgtFox
10-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Well done on your review, you pretty much nailed it. Did you find it to be shorter or longer than Indy? I thought it was far shorter, but could be because I liked it more.
I think it is shorter if you only play the hero parts. If you also play the villain parts after finishing an episode it makes it longer than Indy.

pomeroy
10-03-2008, 12:13 PM
Looks great. Definitely am going to play this at a much later date (probably when I actually play Lego Indy).

agentgray
10-03-2008, 12:20 PM
I wish that Traveler's Tale would fix all the weird things that make these LEGO games slightly frustrating (weird camera, cliff falling, other character getting in the way, etc.). Every game in the series has had the same problems.

I don't think they will though because the millions of dollars they make justify not making it better. (I tend to think The Force Unleashed will suffer this same fate.)

blair
10-03-2008, 12:44 PM
I might get this. I haven't played a Lego game since the first Star Wars, and I'm looking for an excuse to get a second controller for my ps3 anyway.

VerseD
10-03-2008, 02:47 PM
I like "What's Hot/What's Not" in place of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Good review.

I missed out on Lego Indiana Jones but I might give this one a rental since I loved their Star Wars games so much.

rinichanraar
10-03-2008, 04:07 PM
Great review, AgtFox!

I also love that we get links to Co-Optimus (for the co-op specific review) and PiRi (so we can write our own).

Camel
10-03-2008, 04:13 PM
This game is awesome, but I have barely played it since I got it from Gamefly. I just played Lego Indy not too long ago, and I don't think I can handle anymore Lego games for a loooong time, even though Batman is awesome. I'm thinking I might send this one back before I ever spend a considerable amount of time with it.

AgtFox
10-03-2008, 07:18 PM
Great review, AgtFox!

I also love that we get links to Co-Optimus (for the co-op specific review) and PiRi (so we can write our own).
Plan is to have at least a PIRI link in every review. CO may or may not have a review of the games for obvious reasons (like no co-op in the game...heh).

We are working to try to link directly to a page on PIRI that will pull up the game from the database and make it easier to just start on the review than have to go through the steps to start it. We just started talking about this, so it may take some time.

Oh yes, also use the Digg feature on the bottom of the page as well. It's just another way to hopefully get our website out there in the public.

Fubl
10-04-2008, 05:34 PM
I like this one better than indy. Indy just felt blah to me. Oh well

rinichanraar
10-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Plan is to have at least a PIRI link in every review. CO may or may not have a review of the games for obvious reasons (like no co-op in the game...heh).

We are working to try to link directly to a page on PIRI that will pull up the game from the database and make it easier to just start on the review than have to go through the steps to start it. We just started talking about this, so it may take some time.

Oh yes, also use the Digg feature on the bottom of the page as well. It's just another way to hopefully get our website out there in the public.

Yeah, it's a great idea, really. It's a fantastic way to link together the CoG Network without actually having to combine the sites. Hopefully, it'll get a lot of traffic going between pages.

muddi900
10-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Dream Theater - Forsaken(live)
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Thrak
10-06-2008, 05:33 PM
I have to admit I'm a total sucker for the Lego games. They really are just each MOTS, but I love playing them for some reason - even to the exclusion of the multitude of other games I'm working on. While in general, I don't like to consdier myself a gamerscore whore, these games make it relatively easy, and fun, to be able to get to 1000.

Also, muddi, while I do like Dream Theater, why is that song in this thread? Am I missing something?

Raen
10-07-2008, 07:36 AM
Also, muddi, while I do like Dream Theater, why is that song in this thread? Am I missing something?

I was about to ask that.

Commissar Rob
10-07-2008, 09:15 AM
Awesome review, my son wants this one for Christmas. Sounds like a good buy. Thanks!

Zagrash
10-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Excellent review! I'm a bit late to the party like always, but I'm pretty sure my fiance would love this one...I haven't seen this anywhere (although to be fair I haven't looked all THAT hard) but in the villians portion, can you play as Harley Quinn?

AgtFox
10-12-2008, 02:39 PM
Excellent review! I'm a bit late to the party like always, but I'm pretty sure my fiance would love this one...I haven't seen this anywhere (although to be fair I haven't looked all THAT hard) but in the villians portion, can you play as Harley Quinn?
Yes, you have to finish the first level of Joker's episode (and you can choose which of the 3 main villains you want to face off against whenever).

Zagrash
10-12-2008, 03:37 PM
Yes, you have to finish the first level of Joker's episode (and you can choose which of the 3 main villains you want to face off against whenever).

Awesome, thanks! I'll probably have to pick this up one of these days

Camel
10-12-2008, 04:51 PM
So after playing this one for a bit more, I have to say that my first impressions were off. This game is a lot more fun than Lego Indy, and maybe even more fun than Lego Star Wars. I really like how cartoonish the combat is (enemies go flying whenever you punch them), and playing as the villains is a ton of fun. Most importantly, vehicle missions return! There is something very satisfying about driving the Batmobile around and just blowing up everything in sight.