WWE/TNA/ROH etc. Wrestling Discussions Thread

[Sandman]

Dragon Gate USA announcing the entire April 2nd card later today....it's already gonna be a good one.

[Sandman]

Oh...also, I read that FIP had their final event in Florida this past weekend...apparently it was to be headlined by Jon Moxley vs Sami Callihan and neither could make it due to travel issues. The show surprisingly drew more than flies but the promotion has long been in decline since it lost it's ties to ROH. I'll never forget some of the shows I attended in 2007 and 2008...most notable would be International Impact Phase 2 highlighted by Shingo vs Yamato before either of them were huge stars in Dragon Gate and The Briscoes vs Mad Man Pondo & Necro Butcher in one of the craziest brawls I've witnessed live at a wrestling show. There were other great matches but that show is one I will always remember.

RIP FIP

[Sandman]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/inductees/abdullahthebutcher/bio/

The Madman from the Sudan!

Still active today even though he’s in his 70s, The Butcher has battled every legend in nearly every promotion on the planet — except WWE. Despite his decades in the ring, Abdullah never brawled with Bruno Sammartino for the WWE Championship (http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/wwechampionship/) or went the distance with Bob Backlund in Madison Square Garden. These are dream matches that will never happen, but these icons will all be together when The Butcher takes his rightful place in the WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2011.


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Superstars/bio/17041864


His rib joint is going to be packed.

[Sandman]

1000th post! Happy birthday, wrestling thread!

Pfft...1000?

fUcTHmZ9luY

[Dave]

Clever! I'll give ya' that. Working through Raw right now, but can't say I ever thought I'd ever watch Dancing with the Stars, but since CJ's on ...I did actually tape it tonight.

Stupid fuckin' show, for sure, but Jericho's the man and we should all support by watching. I'm not going to call to vote on some fucking show, though. That's kind of where I draw the line.

[Sandman]

I'd vote if Jericho does an armbar.

[Shrinn]

My friend took me to a Chikara wrestling match in PA. They're a small-time wrestling league in the area. It was pretty excellent! I enjoyed it greatly. It was fun and campy and they spent a lot less time on a soap opera and more time on cool moves, laughs, and a good show!

You might know Chikara from the hypnosis video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5uoUhGDroo).

They did that at my event too, but they danced to Thriller there.

[Sandman]

Chikara is awesome...they may do small venues, but they're one of the top 3 indie promotions and I'd say #1 depending on where you rank ROH these days. They teased coming to Florida later this year and I hope it happens.

[Sandman]

Complete details were posted yesterday for Dragon Gate USA's April 2nd show.

Dragon Gate USA
"Mercury Rising 2011"
April 2nd, 2011
8:00pm Belltime (6:30pm Bonus Card for Golden Circle & stage ticket holders)
7:00pm Doors (6:00pm for Golden Circle & stage ticket holders)
The Presidential Ballroom
4001 Presidential Parkway
Atlanta, GA 30340 Tickets are now on sale in the DGUSA.tv Store or by calling 267-519-9744.

Main Event #1 - Open The Freedom Gate Title Match
YAMATO defends vs. Austin Aries
*Aries has stated he will leave DGUSA if he does not win the Championship

Main Event #2 - Grudge Match - The Six Man Tradition Returns
Blood Warriors of CIMA, Naruki Doi & Ricochet
vs.
Ronin of Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano & Rich Swann

Main Event #3 - Open The Brave Gate Title Match
PAC defends vs. Akira Tozawa

Special Attraction Match - Non-Title
Open The Dream Gate Champion Masato Yoshino vs. Sami Callihan

Elimination Match
Jimmy Jacobs vs. Brodie Lee vs. Stalker Ichickawa vs. Silas Young vs. AR Fox vs. Jon Davis

Special Challenge Match
Jon Moxley vs. Arik Cannon

Rampage Pro Wrestling Will Present The Bonus Card (6:30pm Belltime For Golden Circle & Stage Ticket Holders):

RPW Heavyweight Title Match
J-Rod defends vs. Bull Buchanan

RPW Tag Title Match
The Usual Suspects of Murder 1 & AJ Steele defend vs. Hot Like Lava of Cru Jones & Shaun Banks

Special Challenge Match
Jimmy Rave vs. Kyle Matthews

Bonus Attraction Match
Sal Rinauro vs. Sugar Dunkerton

That looks like a good show on the eve of Wrestlemania.

[Wolvie]

Raw was... meh. Not horrible, but they were going through the motions. Kind of a filler show to build up to the pre-Wrestlemania show. Now THAT looks fuckin awesome.

[Sandman]

Raw was... meh. Not horrible, but they were going through the motions. Kind of a filler show to build up to the pre-Wrestlemania show. Now THAT looks fuckin awesome.

I thought they hit the snooze button on the road to Wrestlemania last night, the only real thing worth watching was the Undertaker/HHH video package promo which you can already find on youtube. Everything else was filler till they could get The Rock and Undertaker back on RAW next week.

Also...don't you love how they forgot about Kurt Angle in that Wrestlemania Rewind match?

[Wolvie]

I thought they hit the snooze button on the road to Wrestlemania last night, the only real thing worth watching was the Undertaker/HHH video package promo which you can already find on youtube. Everything else was filler till they could get The Rock and Undertaker back on RAW next week.

Also...don't you love how they forgot about Kurt Angle in that Wrestlemania Rewind match?

They did. It started out good with some decent matches, but yeah the middle waned with all the Wrestlemania promo's.

And in their defense I forgot about Kurt Angle too. :o

[Sandman]

Dave Taylor vs Colt Cabana added for April 2nd, that is going to be awesome.

Honor Takes Center Stage - April 1st

ROH World Title Match
ROH World Champion Eddie Edwards defends vs. World TV Champion Christopher Daniels

World Tag Team Title Match
The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) with Shane Hagadorn defend vs. Wrestling’s Greatest Tag Team (Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas)

“Final Battle 2010″ Rematch
Roderick Strong with Truth Martini vs. Davey Richards

Tag Team Challenge Match
Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Adam Cole and Kyle O’Reilly

Grudge Match
El Generico vs. Michael Elgin
*The House of Truth Is Banned From Ringside

Also scheduled to appear:
- Homicide
- The All Night Express
- Colt Cabana
- Hiroyo Matsumoto, Ayumi Kurihara, Tomoka Nakagawa from S-Ovation in Japan will debut
- The Embassy with Prince Nana

Honor Takes Center Stage - April 2nd

Dream Tag Team Match
The American Wolves (ROH World Champion Eddie Edwards and Davey Richards) vs. Wrestling’s Greatest Tag Team (Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas)

Tag Team Challenge Match
World Tag Team Champions The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) with Shane Hagadorn vs. Adam Cole and Kyle O’Reilly

“SoCal Showdown II” Rematch
Roderick Strong with Truth Martini vs. El Generico

Grudge Tag Team Match
Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. The All Night Express

Special Attraction
Colt Cabana vs. Dave Taylor

Also scheduled to appear:
- World TV Champion Christopher Daniels
- Homicide
- Hiroyo Matsumoto, Ayumi Kurihara, Tomoka Nakagawa from S-Ovation in Japan will debut
- Michael Elgin with Truth Martini
- The Embassy with Prince Nana


More matches will be announced next week for sure....going to be a couple of good shows.

Also, Jimmy Jacobs vs Austin Aries was added to Dragon Gate USA on April 3rd in what will likely be Aries final match.

[Dave]

Dave Taylor vs Colt Cabana added for April 2nd, that is going to be awesome.





More matches will be announced next week for sure....going to be a couple of good shows.

Also, Jimmy Jacobs vs Austin Aries was added to Dragon Gate USA on April 3rd in what will likely be Aries final match.

Fucking SWEET!

There should be an "Art Of Wrestling" (clap-clap clap-clap-clap) chant.

Jacobs versus Aries should rock too.

[Sandman]

For a bit of post Wrestlemania news:

Steve Austin has an interview with IGN to promote Tough Enough.

The article noted that the series will have the Tough Enough "Bottom 3" where each week, Austin will pick three "lowest level performers" and they will have to convince him why they need to stay on the show. Based on that, he will eliminate one of them.

Austin commented, "My job is to sort through these contestants, weed out the weak and find the strong, and look for the person who is strong enough and tough enough and smart enough to be a WWE superstar. You know, there's a lot of people that can get in this ring at a local or independent level, but it take a real special person to compete at the level of the WWE superstars and divas do. So, it's my job to weed through that. Some of [the contestants] are green as grass, some of them have never really been in a ring before. Some of them have quite a few years of experience. But I paid a lot of dues when I broke into this business. I want them to learn to respect what goes on inside this 20x20 ring, and just pay some dues, as much as they can, while they're here, and to learn this business from the bottom up. I just want them to have a sense of really what are the responsibilities of a WWE superstar, and I want them to pay some dues, and I want them to appreciate the rise or fall, but I want them to have a good time while they're here."

Austin also talked about the 'What?' chants that still occur today at every arena: "I tell you what, I would have never in a million years went up to Vince and said, 'Hey, I've got this thing that I'm going to do and it's going to make people say 'What?' after every pause or break in someone's promo for the next ten years. I had no idea that even these days, when Michael Cole's in the ring cutting a promo, if he puts that pause in there, they'll come with a 'What?!' - but it's been interesting!"

Austin also discussed how he learned ring psychology, favorite WrestleMania moments, favorite opponents, who he would like to see inducted in future WWE Hall of Fames, and more.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/115/1157706p1.html

[Sandman]

It's stupid that the Rock is not in the Cena vs Miz match at this point.

[Crowe]

The Rock was insanely pumped, fucked his kick up after the DDT. Hopefully he gives Cena a hiding next week.

[Straximus]

It's stupid that the Rock is not in the Cena vs Miz match at this point.

Yeah. If this were anyone other than The Rock, I'd assume he'd interject himself into the Mania match somehow and cause Cena to lose as a setup for Backlash. The only problem with that scenario is that Mania is the show WWE _should_ want the Rock to work. Maybe he really is sticking around. Hard to believe, but I guess we will see.

Also, I loved Cena's promo. Again.

[Sandman]

Going in to last night, I was thinking they could add Rock to that match and make it a triple threat....yeah it's only a week out but it will still spike ppv buys(the event is practically sold out so no need to sell tickets). At this point Rock will be involved in the match somehow but not in the match and I would hold off Rock/Cena till Summerslam or WM28. Maybe if Rock is staying after Mania they could do Rock/Miz for a few months so he's not working the Cena match without wrestling in years.

Also, The Rock will be on Piers Morgan on Thursday. That show airs on CNN at 9pm. It would be awesome if he gets the whole hour but I doubt it. TNA's ratings just got slammed this week though....not like they're doing anything worth watching at the moment anyway.

[Sandman]

Raw scored a 3.56 first hour rating, then increased to a 4.06 second hour rating, 3.81 overall. Raw's second hour was the only hour to score above a 4.00 rating during this recent stretch. The March 7 episode featuring "Stone Cold" Steve Austin scored a 3.94 first hour rating and a 3.90 second hour rating.

[Wolvie]

My predictions after watching RAW:

Taker will win with an assist from Shawn Micheals.

Miz will retain by interference by the Rock.

[Sandman]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/266643167.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1301439617&Signature=G4oqJNyNf1DVTIoofTOj7N%2FtXJM%3D

[Straximus]

So, do we want to meet up Sunday before Mania?

[Sandman]

So, do we want to meet up Sunday before Mania?

PM me your number and we'll see what we can do....I'll probably be done with DGUSA and I'll be able to hang out somewhere around 3pm.

[Dave]

Hey! We're goin' too. Shoot me numbers for you guys.

[Sandman]

Finally in Atlanta. Rough drive up. I'm ready for the weekend though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/djsandman/omniview.jpg

[Psykoboy2]

wow...you booked that room early i'm guessing.

[Sandman]

wow...you booked that room early i'm guessing.

Very early...I knew the Omni would go quick.

[Sandman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/djsandman/cornette.jpg

Kind of dark, but Jim Cornette is awesome...he also signed my ticket.

[Psykoboy2]

The lighting on that makes Jim look really evil.

[Sandman]

Last night's show was awesome, between Richards/Strong, KOW/WGTT and Edwards/Daniels it's hard to pick a motn. The undercard was strong too. This afternoon they have 3 more main event quality matches in the second half with an even better looking first half.

Also, they're running 5 dvds for $60...can't pass that up.

[Sandman]

-Ve78f5rS7k

Kofi will likely replace Kozlov at Wrestlemania. I love how well placed that fan with the camera phone was.

[Psykoboy2]

INhHEWUUBeo

Just skip to 9:30

[Sandman]

After Dragon Gate tonight I went over to $5 Wrestling with Dave. That show was awesome. It was basically Colt Cabana and a comedian (forget his name) doing commentary over really bad wrestling with a live crowd. Some guest commentators included Sugar Dunkerton, Chris Hero, Referee Bryce Remsburg (sp?) and Luke Gallows (who was awesome). It was basically just an hour and a half laughing at wrestling, some of which has to be seen to be believed.....and some falls into the what has been seen can't be unseen category (like Nikolai Volkoff touching his junk in the middle of a match several times for no apparent reason). After about 12 hours of serious wrestling, it was a nice change of pace.

[Psykoboy2]

http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2011/04/Diary_0402_921.jpg

MZ4aP-xjYnQ

[Dave]

After Dragon Gate tonight I went over to $5 Wrestling with Dave. That show was awesome. It was basically Colt Cabana and a comedian (forget his name) doing commentary over really bad wrestling with a live crowd. Some guest commentators included Sugar Dunkerton, Chris Hero, Referee Bryce Remsburg (sp?) and Luke Gallows (who was awesome). It was basically just an hour and a half laughing at wrestling, some of which has to be seen to be believed.....and some falls into the what has been seen can't be unseen category (like Nikolai Volkoff touching his junk in the middle of a match several times for no apparent reason). After about 12 hours of serious wrestling, it was a nice change of pace.

This has been the highlight of my trip for the trip to ATL thus far. I KNEW that we would have a good time at that.

[Wolvie]

The wife begged me and begged me, so I broke down and ordered Wrestlemania. This will be the first WM I've seen since... well since before my daughters were born. So over six years. I hope it's a good show, I paid enough for it.

[Psykoboy2]

Your wife is AWESOME!

[Wolvie]

Your wife is AWESOME!

She is smiling after I read that comment to her. And yes she is awesome, There's little mistery why we're together.

[Wolvie]

Wow what a weak finish, saw it coming before the show started:

The Rock screws Cena, and then kicks the Miz's ass. Wow WWE that is the most predictable ending ever.

I would have rather seen the Rock restart the match as a three way match and beat the Miz.

Like I said to the wife, I might have to stop watching WWE until Miz is no longer champ. My patience has run dry.

Edit: Yeah, I've come to a decision; I feel ripped off. I'm taking some time away from the wrestling scene. Both WWE and TNA have dissapointed me too much recently. Monday nights and Thursday nights are now video game nights for me.

Edit: *sigh* now that I think about it, with Cena getting so many boos, they should have him go heel.

[Psykoboy2]

I think it was a weak show all the way around. Snookie was actually kind of surprising. And, as usual, Taker and HHH were the highlight of the night - with the exception of that long-ass ending. I dunno if they were buying time for the show or making it so Taker would be gone for awhile. Hopefully Cole's gone for awhile too - better be after that snooze fest of a match.

Obviously the guys who were there can say otherwise, but the crowd sounded totally dead in that place. Although I do have to give kudos to Atlanta for not chanting USA during the Del Rio/Edge match and for booing Cena and actually cheering for the Miz.

The match layout seemed fucked up too. I could have sworn they promoted Brian and Shamus as a match, but it apparently ended up as a dark match and the curtain jerker seemed quick and weak. Speaking of quick, that 8-man match thing lasted all of 2 minutes or so. The entrances to that match took longer than the match itself.

Speaking of entrances, fuck off Cena. Well done HHH.

[Sandman]

IMO, worst Wrestlemania in a while. Daniel Bryan and Sheamus got screwed out of being on the main card, and then their match is turned into a battle royal won by The Great Khali...wtf. Undertaker/HHH wasn't that great of a match but had some good story telling toward the end. I hope 20-0 is the end for Undertaker, he looked seriously gassed this year. Opening with the world title match for Smackdown was a shocker...Del Rio goes from winning the Rumble to jobbing in the opening match at Mania. I guess my favorite match of the night was Punk/Orton. Punk and Del Rio were the best wrestlers on the card for me. I hated the finish also...predictable. Overall, it just didn't feel like Wrestlemania....I can't even think of a "wrestlemania moment" from the show.

Ring of Honor had the best shows of the whole weekend, support companies that want to call themselves a pro-wrestling company :)


Obviously the guys who were there can say otherwise, but the crowd sounded totally dead in that place. Although I do have to give kudos to Atlanta for not chanting USA during the Del Rio/Edge match and for booing Cena and actually cheering for the Miz.

The crowd was hot for some things and others it was hot in pockets of the arena. Cole/Lawler kinda killed the crowd overall (except for a boring chant) although Miz/Cena got great reactions.

IMO, the big thing this WM was missing was the big 4 or 5 star match that guys like HBK, Jericho or even Angle in his time even provided. HBK was sorely missed from this show.




Speaking of entrances, fuck off Cena. Well done HHH.

I HATED that Cena entrance. Just beyond words the stupidity of it.

[Wolvie]

I can guarantee you all one thing. It might be another decade before I buy another PPV from Vince after tonight. There was a few good matches. Like the Rhodes Mysterio match. HHH and Taker was good. And even though the placement of it was weird, Edge Del Rio was pretty good as well.

But yeah, the whole thing felt like a glorified RAW.

On a side note, it seems WWE has painted themselves into a corner with Cena. They put all their eggs in one basket, and now people are booing him. They need a newer fresher face that actually gets a good pop from the crowd. It's Orton's time now WWE. Kick Cena's overrated ass out of the spotlight and let Orton be the face of the company.

[Sandman]

Also, another thing I just realized...for all WWE has done with their youth movement lately:

Sheamus & Daniel Bryan = booted off the main show

Alberto Del Rio = won title match in Rumble, jobbed in the opening match
The Corre = jobbed in about 2 min
CM Punk = worked hard in the match but still lost to Randal
John Morrison & Dolph Ziggler = burried in the Snooki match, Morrison only got one spot
The Miz = won his title, but was buried by the focus on Rock/Cena (again)

Cody Rhodes at least picked up a win over Rey, but I was kinda disappointed that he didn't go for Rey's mask...that could have been a WM moment.

[Wolvie]

Thats what I said to the wife. No titles changed hands, only two were up for grabs, and almost no matches had interesting results. They just went with boring safe bets.

[Sandman]

Earlier today, Dragon Gate USA was awesome. You have to order the Open the Ultimate Gate PPV. The Masato Yoshino/PAC vs Cima/Naruki Doi match has to be seen to be believed. Also they did a Austin Aries vs Jimmy Jacobs match which was Aries farewell match. They did alot of playing to the crowd and at one point on the outside Aries called for a boot and several fans put their shoes up on the rail. Aries put Jacobs through each one. Someone called for one more boot, I put mine up and this time Jacobs reverses it and they do a back and forth tease and eventually neither hits it. It was awesome. I'll have to buy that dvd now.

[SilentScreams]

I thought it was okay, but I was also kind of drunk by the 2 hour mark.

The Taker/HHH match was the highlight, but
It should have ended with the HHH Tombstone on Taker. That would have been the ending that got the crowd buzzing and would have been a real WM moment.

[Wolvie]

Oh and the ending of the Lawler/Cole match in the words of Austin was bullshit.

Austin shoves Cole out of his face and the RAW GM reverses the call? Fucking weak. That was just insult after a match that was just painful to watch. And not in a good way. I got up several times to get snacks and sodas during that match and even got online a few times. This match shouldn't even have happened. They should have bumped this match and kept the Sheamus/Bryan match.

They could have had Cole chicken out and leave before the match to explain it away. But now we have to not only listen to Cole run his mouth about how he "beat" Lawler, we have to listen to the Miz brag about how he "beat" Cena.

Thats another thing I'm getting sick of. When your champ is so pathetic he can't even keep the title without constant storyline interference and lucky breaks? He absoloutely sucks. And it's time Miz dropped the title, he's had it for long enough. It's time someone else had a run. Like I said, I really don't think I can stand watching RAW until Miz is not champ. And at least tonight I boycotting RAW in protest over the piss poor Wrestlemania I just watched.

[Sandman]

WWE lied last night, big surprise there.

The Backstreet Boys round out the top five with a sold-out show at the Georgia Dome on Feb. 19, 2000. 73,337 fans filled the Atlanta stadium to see the pop group's Into the Millennium Tour.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/u2-s-rose-bowl-show-breaks-attendance-record-1004032260.story

[Wolvie]

Beat by a boy band. HA!

[Sandman]

Cena/Rock Wrestlemania 28....BRING IT

[Sandman]

OMQDRSvBL44

ROH on HDNet finished up last night with what is supposed to be an awesome six man tag that took the whole show. It was Roderick Strong and The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) with Shane Hagadorn, Truth Martini, and Sara Del Rey vs. Davey Richards and The Briscoe Brothers.

[Sandman]

T0yv0NWI7yU

If you thought you had heard the song from the Undertaker/HHH video package before....you have. I personally marked out when they used that song because I loved it in the movie. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68QmIDeWSX4)

[Wolvie]

Cena/Rock Wrestlemania 28....BRING IT

To quote my wife... "But thats too far off!" :(

Exactly.

Oh BTW, last nights RAW was pretty good. Way better than Wrestlemania sadly. I should have listened to my gut and just saved the money. Oh well, I rolled the dice and I lost.

[Crowe]

I love the way the crowd reacts to Cena. The attitude era fans seem to despise him while the next generation of fans cheer him, its a hard position to be in.

[Sandman]

And the Smackdown main event for Extreme Rules is:

Edge defends vs Alberto Del Rio in a Ladder Match

I'm looking forward to that one....hope it doesn't open the show again :)

[Sandman]

Alex Whybrow aka "Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney died today. RIP. Probably the best wrestling manager in the past few years. He reminded me a lot of Bobby Heenan. I was fortunate enough to see him perform a few times for ROH and FIP.

We lost a dedicated friend and an overwhelmingly talented performer this morning. Alex Whybrow aka "Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney has passed.

We spent a few yrs together on the road & Alex was gifted beyond measure. He could enthrall you with colorful stories from his personal life

or he could captivate thousands with his undeniable charisma. I loved him & my heart is with his family, friends & his countless fans.

First he was my student & he transcended that almost immediately. I will forever cherish our in depth conversations & time spent together

Love you man. Miss you. Rest in Peace.

[Sandman]

Ring of Honor on HDNet breakdown:

Number of Episodes of Ring of Honor on HDNet: 98
Amount of wrestling: 2,744 Minutes
Number of Matches: 347
Average amount of wrestling per show: 28 Minutes
Average number of matches per episode: 3.54
Average match length: 7.91 Minutes
Number of Ten Minute Matches: 115
Percentage of Total Matches: 33.14 Percent

Number of One Minute Matches: 18
Percentage of Total Matches: 5.19 Percent

Number of matches on a show
One Match: 2 Weeks
Two Matches: 6 Weeks
Three Matches: 36 Weeks
Four Matches: 47 Weeks
Five Matches: 6 Weeks
Seven Matches: 1 Week

Amount of Wrestling on a Show
38 Minutes: 4 Times
36 Minutes: 1 Time
35 Minutes: 2 Times
34 Minutes: 6 Times
33 Minutes: 8 Times
32 Minutes: 9 Times
31 Minutes: 3 Times
30 Minutes: 8 Times
29 Minutes: 8 Times
28 Minutes: 7 Times
27 Minutes: 6 Times
26 Minutes: 8 Times
25 Minutes: 2 Times
24 Minutes: 5 Times
23 Minutes: 7 Times
22 Minutes: 5 Times
21 Minutes: 1 Time
20 Minutes: 2 Times
19 Minutes: 1 Time
18 Minutes: 1 Time
16 Minutes: 2 Times
15 Minutes: 1 Time
13 Minutes: 1 Time

Number of people who have wrestled on Ring of Honor: 122
Top Ten Totals for Individual Wrestlers
Davey Richards 402 Minutes
Roderick Strong 374 Minutes
Eddie Edwards 342 Minutes
Jay Briscoe 336 Minutes
Tyler Black 331 Minutes
Kenny King 312 Minutes
Chris Hero 295 Minutes
Rhett Titus 273 Minutes
Austin Aries 266 Minutes
Claudio Castagnoli 259 Minutes

Top Ten Totals for Matches
Jay Briscoe 33 Matches
Davey Richards 31 Matches
Eddie Edwards 31 Matches
Claudio Castagnoli 30 Matches
Rhett Titus 30 Matches
Kenny King 29 Matches
Chris Hero 28 Matches
Roderick Strong 28 Matches
Colt Cabana 25 Matches
El Generico 25 Matches
Kevin Steen 25 Matches
Mark Briscoe 25 Matches


Even more....



Ring of Honor on HDNet for 2009
Number of Shows: 39
Amount of Wrestling: 1,181 Minutes
Number of Matches: 147
Average Match Length: 8.03 Minutes
Number of Ten Minute Matches: 49
Number of One Minute Matches: 6
Top Five Wrestlers by Amount Wrestled
Tyler Black 185 Minutes
Bryan Danielson 183 Minutes
Roderick Strong 152 Minutes
Austin Aries 142 Minutes
Eddie Edwards 136 Minutes

Top Five Wrestlers by Number of Matches
Kenny King 14 Matches
Claudio Castagnoli 13 Matches
Jay Briscoe 13 Matches
Kevin Steen 13 Matches
Necro Butcher 13 Matches


Ring of Honor on HDNet for 2010
Number of Shows: 47
Amount of Wrestling: 1,256 Minutes
Number of Matches: 164
Average Match Length: 7.66 Minutes
Number of Ten Minute Matches: 53
Number of One Minute Matches: 12
Top Five Wrestlers by Amount Wrestled
Davey Richards 240 Minutes
Eddie Edwards 175 Minutes
Roderick Strong 163 Minutes
Tyler Black 146 Minutes
Jay Briscoe 142 Minutes

Top Five Wrestlers by Number of Matches
Davey Richards 18
Eddie Edwards 17
Jay Briscoe 16
Rhett Titus 16
Colt Cabana 15


Ring of Honor on HDNet for 2011
Number of Shows: 12
Amount of Wrestling: 307 Minutes
Number of Matches: 36
Average Match Length: 8.53 Minutes
Number of Ten Minute Matches: 13
Number of One Minute Matches: 0
Top Five Wrestlers by Amount Wrestled
Mark Briscoe 73 Minutes
Chris Hero 72 Minutes
Jay Briscoe 68 Minutes
Claudio Castagnoli 64 Minutes
Roderick Strong 59 Minutes

Top Five Wrestlers by Number of Matches
Kyle O’Reilly 5
Mark Briscoe 5
Mike Bennett 5
Chris Hero 4
Christopher Daniels 4
Claudio Castagnoli 4
Grizzly Redwood 4
Homicide 4
Jay Briscoe 4
Kenny King 4
Roderick Strong 4


Here are some facts and figures about Ring of Honor’s time on HDNet.
Three of the people who wrestled on the first episode on HDNet are still with the company: Delirious, Kenny King, and Rhett Titus.
The first match on HDNet was Delirious versus Jerry Lynn.
The 100th match on HDNet was Chris Hero and The American Wolves versus Roderick Strong, Bryan Danielson, and Kenta (9/21/09)
The 200th match on HDNet was Davey Richards versus Eddie Edwards [TV Title Tournament Finals] (4/26/10)
The 300th match on HDNet was Blain Rage versus Shane Hagadorn (12/6/10)
The 347th and final match on HDNet was The Briscoes and Davey Richards versus The Kings of Wrestling and Roderick Strong.
Skullkrusher Rasche Brown did not win a match he was in that was longer than five minutes. The matches he won were all four minutes or less.
The wrestler who wrestled the most matches without a win or no contest is Alex Payne (10 matches).
Fifty-seven people who wrestled on HDNet lost every match they wrestled in (46.7 percent of all wrestlers)
Two wrestlers were undefeated on HDNet (Tommaso Ciampa and Shane Hagadorn) even though they only wrestled one match each.
Three other wrestlers did not lose a match, but were in a match that was considered a no contest (Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin [3 matches] and Bison Smith [2 matches])
Bryan Danielson was the only person to have every match go more than ten minutes (10 matches).
Mike Bennett made one appearance on HDNet in 2010, which he lost. It was his only loss on HDNet.
Three matches were time limit draws:
Bryan Danielson versus Tyler Black (4/25/09)
Tyler Black versus Christopher Daniels (8/9/10)
Daizee Haze versus Sara Del Rey (11/22/10)

Three matches were double count outs:
Bryan Danielson versus Tyler Black (5/9/09)
Necro Butcher versus Bison Smith (10/12/09)
Jay Briscoe versus Mark Briscoe (1/18/10)

One match was a double disqualification:
El Generico versus Davey Richards (8/8/09)

Six matches were no contests:
Sal Rinauro and Tony Kozina versus Cheech and Cloudy (8/17/09)
Dark City Fight Club versus Briscoes (11/30/09)
Steve Corino versus Jerry Lynn (6/7/10)
Tyler Black, Jerry Lynn, and Delirious versus Austin Aries, Kenny King, and Rhett Titus (7/12/10)
Dark City Fight Club versus American Wolves (7/26/10)
Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Mark Briscoe, and Jay Briscoe versus Rhett Titus, Kenny King, Claudio Castagnoli, and Chris Hero (2/7/11)

Matches by Gender
Men’s: 329
Women’s: 17
Mixed: 1

Matches by Type:
Singles: 238
Standard Tag: 91
Six Man Tag: 7
Eight Man Tag: 3
Four Corner: 3
Battle Royal/Rumble: 2
Triple Threat: 2
Handicap: 1

and MORE here: http://www.pwinsider.com/article/56959/beyond-the-numbers-looking-back-at-ring-of-honors-run-on-hdnet.html?p=1

warning: page has ads.

[Psykoboy2]

Man...all that wrestling and they only lasted 2 years on TV.

[Psykoboy2]

Well, didn't expect that from Edge. I mean, I did EVENTUALLY in his career but not like this. For those who are wondering, the Edge retirement speech was 100% legitimate and real. We were told by a company source earlier this evening that when the major announcement was made tonight, it was not an angle and not storyline.

The story that Edge told about medical tests coming back and showing there was a new issue with his neck and being advised he must retire are true. He was basically handed a mic and told to go out and say goodbye however he wanted.

[Wolvie]

I am truly bummed after hearing Edge say goodbye. :(

It's just like when Austin left; you understand why he has to quit, but it still sucks. While he was talking I was honestly getting choked up. All I gotta say is I hope he enjoys retirement, and eats himself a ton of icecream. Goodbye Edge, you will be dearly missed by this fan.

[Sandman]

Edge's problem reminds me of Austin and Tazz a bit especially with the numbness. I'll always remember being there for Wrestlemania 24 as Edge tapped out to hell's gate to close the show. It was, an awesome ending to the best weekend of live wrestling I've ever seen....even after this past Wrestlemania weekend which clocked about 22 hours of wrestling, 6 shows, 1 free bonus card and 1 wrestling related comedy show.

[Wolvie]

Wow, every wrestler I know of that had similar neck injuries have the same problem: shorter carreers. Austin, Tazz and now Edge? Yeesh. The thing that really concerns me is that both Angle and Cena have had similar through-the-throat surgeries. I wonder how much longer we'll be watching them throw down.

[Psykoboy2]

Zhhe7npfXd0

Well, turns out he'd given retirement much more of a thought than I expected.

[Sandman]

What worries me is that WWE keeps loosing wrestlers. Eventually all we'll be left with is entertainers. They've already dropped sports from sports entertainment, calling wrestlers Superstars and even telling news sites to not call them a wrestling company. When wrestling stops being the main product for WWE like music quit being the main product for MTV I quit watching.....maybe sooner.

[Wolvie]

What is really showing about WWE to me now is how hard they have leaned on their veteran guys. Shawn Micheals Edge Cena and Undertaker have all done more than their fair share to keep WWE propped up. But after losing two of their showcase wrestlers, it's just gonna hurt them. Like an NHL team losing two defensmen in a short period of time.

[Sandman]

To further illustrate my point recently WWE sent out "The Language of WWE" to international networks:


"World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) is a publicly traded entertainment company (NYSE: WWE) that creates and delivers a weekly action soap opera to its passionate fans.

WWE has been a recognized leader in entertainment for more than 25 years and has developed into one of the most popular and sophisticated forms of global entertainment today.

As a global entertainment brand, the language that we use when communicating on WWE is critical.

Please ensure that you are familiar and employing the below, effective immediately. "


* "Wrestling" or "catch" is banned. Some European countries still use the term "catch" to describe pro wrestling and "catchers" to describe wrestlers. "The Language of WWE" states that the following phrases are incorrect: "Wrestling is broadcast in 145 countries," or "Catch is broadcast in 145 countries." The correct terminology is: "WWE is broadcast in 145 countries."

* "Sports" is incorrect. "Entertainment or Action Soap Opera" is allowed. For example, "WWE is exciting entertainment" or "WWE is an exciting action soap opera" is allowed. In the last example, "action soap opera" is printed in bold, presumably to make sure there's no confusion.

* "Catchers" or "wrestlers" are not allowed. Incorrect examples are "Catchers are unique characters" or "Wrestlers are unique characters." The term "WWE Superstars" is allowed.

* "Athletes" or "Sportsmen" are now allowed either. WWE gives the following example to use: "WWE Superstars are entertainers with tremendous athletic prowess."

* The term "fight" is not allowed. Matches must be referred to as "match" or "bout."

* "Fighting" is also not allowed but the term "action" is.

"The Language of WWE" printout concludes with the following "Key Soundbytes":

* WWE is pure entertainment

* WWE is an action soap opera

* WWE Superstars are entertainers with tremendous athletic prowess http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Official_List_of_Banned_WWE_Terms_Sent_Out_to_Inte rnational_Voice-Over_Workers.html

Action soap opera is the most alarming to me...typically in the US, that is one of the most common criticisms of people who don't watch wrestling.

[Psykoboy2]

After Smackdown finished taping (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xi3q96_edge-tribute-albany-ny_sport)....

[Dave]

Just saw this over at Lords of Pain, here (http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Val_Venis_Blasts_John_Morrison_Melina_Contains_Fou l_Language.html). Morley's freakin' hilarious.

N7SWb-lH86g

Trish Stratus confirmed last Friday via radio interview that she was snubbed by John Morrison at WrestleMania. He wasn't interested in listening to her suggestions for their bout, and that when she went to hug him during the post-match celebration, he gave her the cold shoulder. The assumption backstage is that Melina was in his ear because she believed Stratus was taking "her spot" at the pay-per-view event.

Former WWE talent Sean Morley (a/k/a Val Venis) is furious over their alleged treatment of Stratus, who he considers a friend. He posted a video online blasting the real-life couple, while also defending Stratus. His remarks are as follows:

"I've always been really nice to Johnny and Melina. I've always been really nice to them. I don't respect Johnny at all. And, you know, there are several reasons for that. And now, after snubbing Trish for supposedly taking Melina's spot at WrestleMania. You know what? Screw it. The reality of the situation is Melina, it's not your spot! It's Vince McMahon's spot and he's going to put in that spot whoever will be doing the best for the company and it's ain't you, ah-ah! It's Trish! You think you're on the same level as Trish, Melina? Come on! All that respect I might have had for you, which honestly was just a little bit, is completely thrown out the freakin' window now!

"The reality is, your boyfriend Morrison is nothing but a chump ass bitch who has zero nuts! Zero nuts! What is it? First it's Mike Knox, then it's Batista? And the whole time Morrison goes on like, "It's not really happening. It's just, she doesn't really cheat on me." You're a freakin' ho Melina! You know what, I'm not even going to say freakin' anymore, you're a fucking slut, period! And Morrison you wanna go out there, and Melina, and snub, my t-dot girl Trish? Come on!

"Melina, you're not the same level as Trish. If you want that spot so much, why instead of taking it out on Trish and saying, "uhhh she took my spot," why don't you think, "Hmmm... Vince chose Trish for that spot. How can I better improve my charisma, my in-ring ability, my marketability. So that the next time Vince decides to choose someone for a certain spot, you'll choose me." It's called competition. It's called free market competition Melina. But no, you can't handle that. You think you're owed that spot, you ain't owed nothing!

"And then Morrison, you're going to walk around like Batista didn't tag your girl? You're going to walk around like Mike Knox didn't tag your girl? By the way, how does Mike Knox taste? How does Batista taste? How does, God knows how many other guys she's banged right under your nose. In fact, it wasn't even under your nose! You just pretend it was under your nose! You know the whole time it was f*****g going on! God dang! So all and all, while you walk around snubbing Trish, a future Hall of Famer, you try and turn a ho into a house wife! Melina's nothing more than a glorified ring rat. I have zero respect for you Morrison.

"And you know what? We're going to run into each other at some point in time. I'll walk right up to you with my chin stuck out and you either chin me, or beat it! But the reality is, you ain't got the balls to chin me! Cause the reality is, Trish has proven time and time again, to the entire world for that matter, that she has way bigger balls than you'll ever have.

"Keep trying to turn that ho into a house wife! F**k you Melina! F**k you Morrison! Trying to knock my t-dot girl Trish, who actually earned a spot! God dang!"

[Sandman]

I might take a break from WWE for a while. I've come to realize lately my reasons for watching are dwindling. All of my favorites are either done completely (HBK, Edge) or will never work a full schedule again (HHH, Jericho, Undertaker). Sure, I like guys like Randy Orton, The Mix, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan but they're all kinda doing the same thing each week to each month. I've actually already been taking a break from TNA since early February and taking a break from RAW and Smackdown won't be that much different....I'm kinda just watching them to watch them anyway. Ring of Honor is the only company holding my interest right now.

[Sandman]

This morning the Greensboro Collisium advertised John Cena for the 4/26 Smackdown! taping.

This afternoon WWE announced Monday Night RAW on 4/25 will be a Draft show.

2 + 2 = ???

[Dave]

I saw this over at LoP tonight and thought it was worth sharing, in case y'all hadn't seen it yet. I was never a HUGE fan of Shane Helms, but I did think that the guy was pretty talented and that this was an interesting watch (considering his injuries being similar to that of SCSA and Edge, to name a few). Anyway, here you are.

ruBGgXZOhbE

[Psykoboy2]

SsY5f36epRQ

[Psykoboy2]

I stole this from another forum and I don't care.

I just read that, according to Kevin Nash, Lex Luger is heading up WWE's Wellness Policy.....
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4213/punkreaction.png

And...
http://i.min.us/intD0S.gif

[Scaryfaced]

Hey! The only dealings Luger ever had with a doctor were those mad scientists that gave him that bionic elbow.

[Dave]

Well played, Scott. Well played.

[Psykoboy2]

http://i.imgur.com/gxWZS.gif

[Psykoboy2]

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/Airhammer2/Wrestling/Gifs/Randy_Riley_Season.gif

[Psykoboy2]

Wow....that was awesome!!!

[Psykoboy2]

2OS9wZGb_3g

[Sandman]

I don't know if it was a shoot, a work or a worked shoot but that promo was awesome. Easily one of the best promos in years in WWE. Also, what happens next week sucks.

edit: nevermind, next week is good :)

[Scaryfaced]

Hot damn....well said, Punk. Well said.

[Dave]

Hey there, CoG wrestling thread. :) I missed you too.

Fantastic promo by Punker tonight. The shoutout to Cabana was great.

Scott, don't know if you got it or not but, I called and left a message on the house phone about this. I'm glad you got to see it. I was afraid that you might have been waiting on the Universal HD airing.

[Sandman]

One thing about RAW that will be sadly forgotten after Punk's promo was the awesome tag team match with Rey/Riley vs Swagger/Miz. I was immediately interested when they said it was a tornado tag match and IMO it really exposed what WWE is doing wrong in tag team wrestling. Other companies have found a middle ground between the standard tag match and the craziness of the tornado tag, just letting things go when the match starts to wind up. WWE's normal tag matches are slow and traditional. Partners have to keep their hand on the rope at the turnbuckle while the heel team cuts the ring off till we get a babyface hot tag. I'd hope WWE sees how the crowd was into the tornado tag match and adapts some of that into their traditional tag matches a few times, might help things along.

[Straximus]

What a riveting 7 minutes. I haven't been this excited about watching wrestling in ten years. I really hope they don't squander the interest they bought last night.

I concur with your thoughts on the tornado match, Sandman.

[Pigeon]

So what's a good dirt site to go to. I haven't watched WWE for a few weeks but would like to see some recaps.

Punk is awesome btw

[Wolvie]

Wow! The internet is lighting up over Punk's promo! Even if Punk went too far during that promo and got suspended for real, McMahon would be insane to let the guy go. But I'm sure this is just a very well done story working Punk's unhapppiness into the story. And I didn't even know about the Austin/Punk Twitter feud until my wife told me about it. Well played wearing the Austin shirt Punk, well played indeed.

I haven't read any dirt sheets, but my money is on Punk sneaking into the arena and interferring with the last match. Then going on another rant before getting arrested.

Edit: Hit the dirt sheets. Heh, this is one of the best worked stories I've seen in awhile. Awesome.

[Jason X USN]

My preferred wrestling site since about 1997 has been www.lordsofpain.net. Highly recommended.

[Sandman]

I think MVP said it best on twitter, Punk just had his Austin 3:16 moment.

[divinechaos]

Anyone got a link?

[Sandman]

Anyone got a link?

http://twitter.com/#!/The305MVP/status/85603463899254784

[divinechaos]

I meant the promo, I wanna know why people are so surprised!

Ed: I think I saw it, was it the one where they cut off his mic? 'Cause if so then that was pretty awesome.

[Psykoboy2]

Yeah, the video I posted above was what all the talk is about.

[Vigil80]

I don't think I really get it, or the Austin 3:16 comparison, but whatevs. Guess I'll watch for impressions of the next few shows.

Actual WWE drama is as convoluted as scripted WWE drama is shallow.

[Sandman]

Yeah, the video I posted above was what all the talk is about.

I'm surprised that video is still around.

[Sandman]

Pro tip: If you're going to Wrestlemania 28 in Miami, book the Wrestlereunion (http://www.wrestlereunion.com/miami-in-2012/hotel-info-miami/) hotel. Not only is it a good rate on a Miami beach hotel, it's where the two Dragon Gate USA events will be held and where Colt Cabana's $5 Wrestling Live will be held next year. It will be awesome to not have to travel for these things, Atlanta was a good trip for everything it seemed.

[Sandman]

ZuRjgE19HfM

[Dave]

My preferred wrestling site since about 1997 has been www.lordsofpain.net. Highly recommended.

LoP love! I love it! LoP and the Wrestling Observer/Figure 4 Weekly site are the two that I use.

Pro tip: If you're going to Wrestlemania 28 in Miami, book the Wrestlereunion (http://www.wrestlereunion.com/miami-in-2012/hotel-info-miami/) hotel. Not only is it a good rate on a Miami beach hotel, it's where the two Dragon Gate USA events will be held and where Colt Cabana's $5 Wrestling Live will be held next year. It will be awesome to not have to travel for these things, Atlanta was a good trip for everything it seemed.

LIVE! Five Dollar Wrestling: Part Deux?! Is this true?! Where did you hear about all of this, Sandman?

Anyone here going to Miami for 'Mania next year? After doing Atlanta this year, I think I now want to do Miami.

[Sandman]

LoP love! I love it! LoP and the Wrestling Observer/Figure 4 Weekly site are the two that I use.



LIVE! Five Dollar Wrestling: Part Deux?! Is this true?! Where did you hear about all of this, Sandman?

Anyone here going to Miami for 'Mania next year? After doing Atlanta this year, I think I now want to do Miami.

They have the schedule for Wrestlereunion here: http://www.wrestlereunion.com/miami-in-2012/more-info-miami/

$5 Wrestling Live is Sat night after the DGUSA event.

[Wolvie]

It's official, CM Punk is my current favorite wrestler. Suck it Sting.

[Sandman]

I feel the need to remind everyone, CM Punk has always been awesome.


Q_qgT-TXOUI

around 3 min mark is awesome....may be NSFW

[Khrymsyn]

Not going to spoil anything, but I thought tonights MITB was the best PPV in definitely some time. WWE found some balls for at least 1 night. Be curious to see how they screw it up in the upcoming weeks. haha

[Psykoboy2]

I could not pass up watching this. Totally worth it.

[Sandman]

The internet won tonight.

[Sandman]

http://a.yfrog.com/img740/6158/b09zy.jpg

[Psykoboy2]

I hope that thing gets a redesign out of this.

[Sandman]

STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/sin-cara/sin-cara-suspended

So that's why Sin Cara was killed last night.

[Dave]

The plot thickens...

There are people in WWE who don't know this for sure but strongly suspect there is some kind of working agreement between Ring of Honor and WWE. There are also people in ROH who think the same thing. At the same time, people on both sides insist there is nothing going on between the two companies.

Sources insist that some of the things CM Punk spoke about in his infamous RAW promo a few weeks back will start finding their way onto WWE TV soon. For example, Punk talked about Triple H taking over and he began that storyline on this week's RAW. Punk also mentioned John Laurinaitis and Colt Cabana, both who appeared on WWE TV in the past week. While Cabana wasn't named by the announcers, he was shown at ringside on Money in the Bank and was photographed with Punk and the WWE Title in Chicago after the pay-per-view. Punk also mentioned Ring of Honor, which adds to the speculation that WWE may be working with them.

For what its worth, Cabana has told at least one indy promotion that he's worked regularly with that he's not taking any more bookings with them after next month.

Source: http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Speculation_on_WWE_Working_with_ROH_Update_on_CM_P unk_s_Storyline_More.html

[Psykoboy2]

muT-9YPDZsI

[Sandman]

Without posting spoilers, I think for the first time in a long time I like the direction they're taking with Daniel Bryan starting Friday.

[Psykoboy2]

2NAvDqglbAE

[Crowe]

So I just found out the Del Rio is also Dos Caras Jr. I have much more respect for him, it takes balls stepping in to the ring against Cro Cop in his prime.

[Sandman]

XIYPeIBfqpk

also...

n_Vtwdozi-Q

[Psykoboy2]

pVCSN5sg5eQ

uuLNC9-isNg

[Psykoboy2]

Interview with Punk on the whole angle.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=6808291

[OldeWolf]

*Still waiting to see how this stage play-acting is a "sport"* :p

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/k.gif?w=320&h=240

[Zero]

I don't think there's a facepalm good enough for that.

[Psykoboy2]

Sport? Shit...that's entertainment right there! Fuckin' Scott Steiner - when it comes to the comedy, he delivers!

EarU--5cYOE

[Psykoboy2]

Oh...more comedy:

j6CA118b0no


LR47W45kEaY

[Sandman]

I know we don't normally talk JCW here (Juggalo Championship Wrestling) but I have to plug their Legends and Icons event Friday night. It's an IPPV which airs as part of their annual Gathering of the Juggalos event and can be seen for $15. It has one of the most loaded legends cards I have seen in a while:

*Roddy Piper (with Bob Orton) vs. Terry Funk in an I Quit Match with Danny Davis as the referee.


*Tito Santana vs. Greg Valentine in a Steel Cage match, reprising their WWF Intercontinental championship feud.


*In a first-ever meeting, The New Age Outlaws vs. The Outsiders, Kevin Nash & Scott Hall with Sean Waltman, who worked with both teams, as the referee.


*The Headbangers vs. The Rock N' Roll Express.


*Bob Backlund vs. Ken Patera in a reprisal of their feud over the WWF championship.


*In what is being billed as a "Memphis Madness" match, Koko B. Ware vs. Kamala vs. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell vs. Austin Idol vs. Brickhouse Brown.


*Tommy Rich vs. Tracy Smothers in what is being billed as their first-ever singles meeting.


*In what is being billed as "Philly Madness", Raven vs. Shane Douglas vs. Balls Mahoney vs. Rhino vs. Al Snow vs. a mystery opponent.


*The Powers of Pain vs. Rikishi and Brian Christopher.


*10 Man Royal Rumble style Battle Royal featuring Carlito, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Tony Atlas, Jimmy Snuka, Zach Gowen, Big Daddy V, Rob Conway, Ronnie Garvin, U-Gene.


Regardless of your feelings towards ICP, you should be interested in this event. Oh and Mick Foley is being brought in for commentary.

https://www.psychopathiclive.com/events/14

[Sandman]

http://i.min.us/iVuYfNGA.gif

[Psykoboy2]

Spoiler (http://twitpic.com/60lbve) for tonight's main event.

[muddi900]

So that was all for shit.

[Zero]

I read this in the comments of a sports blog I frequent:

"Kevin Nash showing up is like the Silver Surfer showing up on Earth. You know something even more horrible is coming soon."

[Psykoboy2]

http://www.truemeaningoflife.com/images/wafflehouse.png

[Sandman]

The brand extension is over!

[Zero]

Break it down for a supercasual fan that only finds out about stuff from reading what you guys post.

[Sandman]

Break it down for a supercasual fan that only finds out about stuff from reading what you guys post.

Basically wrestlers are no longer exclusive to RAW or Smackdown and can go between shows as they please.

[Wolvie]

Consensus on the net? nWo 2 is coming. One sharp eyed fan noticed Nash was wearing the same shirt he wore in his debut... before nWo showed up. Is WWE dropping subtle hints? Stay tuned sports entertainment fans!

[muddi900]

The Many lies of Hulk Hogan!
http://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/the-mad-lies-of-hulk-hogan/