[The Coggies] Best Shooter

[DoctorFinger]

Best Shooter

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Title: Call of Duty: World at War
Available For: 360, PS3, PC, Wii
Developer: Treyarch
Publisher: Activision Blizzard

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Title: Far Cry 2
Available For: 360, PS3, PC
Developer: Ubisoft Montreal
Publisher: Ubisoft

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Title: Gears of War 2
Available For: 360
Developer: Epic Games
Publisher: Microsoft

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Title: Left 4 Dead
Available For: 360, PC
Developer: Valve South
Publisher: Valve

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Title: Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Available For: 360, PS3, PC
Developer: Pandemic Studios
Publisher: Electronic Arts

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Title: Resistance 2
Available For: PS3
Developer: Insomniac
Publisher: Sony

[johnperkins21]

Dead Space didn't make the list? Inconceivable.

[JayVe]

I just realized, I'm not a shooter fan if these are my choices.

Left 4 Dead wins for the inventive co-op. Other than that, I'd prefer playing older games.

[Variable Gear]

Left 4 Dead wins, easily.

[JayVe]

Left 4 Dead wins, easily.

Then why'd you vote for Gears? ;)

[Variable Gear]

Then why'd you vote for Gears? ;)
I wish this was a public poll...because I haven't voted yet... :(

[pomeroy]

Gears! But only because I've played it so much more than Left 4 Dead.

[violent]

I've played 4 of the 6 and Left 4 Dead is the obvious choice.

[Morangie]

Left 4 Dead, no question.

[violent]

Just noticed that L4D is the only new franchise here.

[mister slim]

Left 4 Dead wins cause it has the largest number in its name.

[Doctor Setebos]

Dead Space didn't make the list? Inconceivable.Dead Space was on the Action game list.

It was a hard game to categorize, because even though you do definitely shoot things in Dead Space, it isn't really a shooting game, per se. Against the other contenders, it was decided to leave it off.

[MagGnome]

Left 4 Dead by a mile.

I usually am bored to tears by shooting games, but I love Left 4 Dead. That speaks volumes.

[Seika]

Uhh Warhead?

[pheriannath]

L4D, for sure.

One of the few games I own two copies of.

[scythe]

Uhh Warhead?
I agree. Left 4 Dead would beat it, but it deserves a nomination.

[Deadend]

NOT Mercs 2. God no.

[Disgustipated]

Left 4 Dead, with Gears 2 being a close 2nd. Far Cry 2/Crysis Warhead are third. Why is Crysis Warhead not on here? Fuck.

Mercs 2 SHOULD NOT be on here.

[johnperkins21]

Dead Space was on the Action game list.

It was a hard game to categorize, because even though you do definitely shoot things in Dead Space, it isn't really a shooting game, per se. Against the other contenders, it was decided to leave it off.

That makes sense to me.

[Nura]

L4D for me too, although Farcry 2 did kick some good ass.

[Evewalker]

Yeah, Warhead should really be on here. I've put at least as much time into it and Crysis Wars than all the other titles combined.

[pseudopseudo]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the cover art for Gears 1 is what's displayed? LOL

[Variable Gear]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the cover art for Gears 1 is what's displayed? LOL
I didn't notice that until you mentioned it...and it's fucking hilarious. :)

[Wolvie]

Left 4 Dead.

/thread

[Gorvi]

Only played R2, but the co-op is stupid addictive, so that vote was easy.

[Crowe]

Gears of War 2 with Left 4 dead following not far behind.

Left 4 Dead is great for having a laugh and kicking some Zombie arse in Co-op but it hasn't given me the rush I thought it would. I need to play it a little more but I still don't see it topping the awesome that is SWAT co-op.

[DarkDay]

Gears of War 2 with Left 4 dead following not far behind.

Left 4 Dead is great for having a laugh and kicking some Zombie arse in Co-op but it hasn't given me the rush I thought it would. I need to play it a little more but I still don't see it topping the awesome that is SWAT co-op.

My vote also, Left for dead is great, but Gears 2 raised my hair in the epic in single player, and multi is as we all know greatness also. Top tier. Left 4 dead just a hair behind. But its no Gears 2

[DarkDay]

And after reading Gorvi's post it brings to mind these things are so bloody pointless, as most haven't played the others so why even bother, why not just give massive props to all of them.

[Gorvi]

And after reading Gorvi's post it brings to mind these things are so bloody pointless, as most haven't played the others so why even bother, why not just give massive props to all of them.
When you're talking about user votes, that's a good point. None of us have played them all, we'll just vote for what we've played and that'll be it.

[Kelegacy]

I only have played (and own) Gears 2, but I haven't even got through the second chapter. Fun, but so many other titles drew me away easily. I'll get back to it soon though.

[Mortis]

Dead tie between Gears 2 and L4D. Can't vote for both so no vote from me.

[AniAko]

Wow, I really expected more hype about CoD:WaW. Good to see L4D at the top though :)

[Doctor Setebos]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the cover art for Gears 1 is what's displayed? LOLWhat are you talking about?

[H.Bogard]

So...

Mercs 2 is better than Crysis Warhead?

ok.

[JayVe]

Only played R2, but the co-op is stupid addictive, so that vote was easy.

Easy, because you don't know the other candidates

[Wackman3000]

My vote is yet again for a PC game that happens to get ignored in pretty much every one of these lists, Crysis Warhead.

[Gorvi]

Easy, because you don't know the other candidates
That was my point.....

L4D looks like a shitload of fun, though, just not for $60.

[JayVe]

L4D looks like a shitload of fun, though, just not for $60.

It was on sale for $40 the other day from Amazon. Good catch. I need to hook up and learn from some of you guys though, cause I suck REALLY BAD at surviving the zombie infestation.

[H.Bogard]

That was my point.....

L4D looks like a shitload of fun, though, just not for $60.

It was $45 before release.

[txshurricane]

Granted, everyone has their opinions about which games are or aren't eligible, but considering all of the great shooters this year (where's Rainbow Six Vegas 2?), it seems odd that Mercenaries 2 and Left 4 Dead are on this list. Okay, Left 4 Dead can be classified as a shooter, but is it really the best? One major gripe about the game is the lack of iron sights, which is a norm now.

And if Mercenaries 2 is eligible, why not GTA IV? They controlled almost exactly the same. Why not SOCOM Confrontation? It's a third-person shooter...

Just curious. I haven't followed the whole contest to this point, so maybe there are balance issues I haven't considered...

[JayVe]

What the hell does "lack of iron sights" mean? Why does that make Left 4 Dead less fun than other games? I sure as hell didn't miss 'iron sights' when I played last night.

[pseudopseudo]

Okay, Left 4 Dead can be classified as a shooter, but is it really the best? One major gripe about the game is the lack of iron sights, which is a norm now.

Somebody is spending WAY too much time playing CoD games.

Iron sights? Really?

[Gorvi]

What the hell does "lack of iron sights" mean? Why does that make Left 4 Dead less fun than other games? I sure as hell didn't miss 'iron sights' when I played last night.
Lack of more precision aiming, I'd imagine. A game like L4D seems much more arcadey and therefore I wouldn't think would need something like that. Do you really need to go for head shots or shoot specific limbs in L4D? From what I've heard, it doesn't look like it.

[Restlessavenger]

I put my vote behind Far Cry 2. It expanded my idea of what exactly a shooter can be and do.

[Kielaran]

Okay, Left 4 Dead can be classified as a shooter, but is it really the best? One major gripe about the game is the lack of iron sights, which is a norm now.

Well this is the first I have heard about that. Also, if everyone followed the norm then there would be no new IPs. The 'new' brands that came out would be reskins/rehashes of old games since everyone would follow 'the norms.'

Lack of more precision aiming, I'd imagine. A game like L4D seems much more arcadey and therefore I wouldn't think would need something like that. Do you really need to go for head shots or shoot specific limbs in L4D? From what I've heard, it doesn't look like it.

Some guns have closer crosshairs and headshots do a lot more damage, but a lot of it really isn't that precision. The game does well to stick to that these people are just survivors, not military types, so they aren't as precise as a trained soldier. (It is implied, not stated, but the feeling is definitely there.)

[JayVe]

Lack of more precision aiming, I'd imagine. A game like L4D seems much more arcadey and therefore I wouldn't think would need something like that.

Left 4 Dead, like Gears of War, puts the bullets in the center of your screen. In Left 4 Dead, there is a crosshair there, letting you know where your shots will go.

I've never ever heard of Iron Sights as a feature, or lack thereof... and it sure as hell has no enjoyment with the amount of FUN I have with a title.

[JayVe]

Why not SOCOM Confrontation? It's a third-person shooter...From everyting I've read about SOCOM Confromtation, it isn't anywhere near the quality necessary for Shooter of the Year. YMMV though, and I haven't played it myself. All I hear about is how much it needs patching.

[rinichanraar]

I'm in the smaller group that voted for Gears 2 despite knowing L4D is going to win. I think I just really like Cole Train. And rolling. Also, the cover system. And chainsawing (Kato can vouch for that one). But mostly, I'm a big fan of Cole Train.

[pseudopseudo]

I'm in the smaller group that voted for Gears 2 despite knowing L4D is going to win. I think I just really like Cole Train. And rolling. Also, the cover system. And chainsawing (Kato can vouch for that one). But mostly, I'm a big fan of Cole Train.

I'm always looking for another opportunity to post this, 'cause I love it so much.

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They should totally remake these with TT as Cole Train for us gamers. Since it's the same person and all... I'd LOVE it. If there were a way to make it machinima-style... I'd be all over it.

[Telefrog]

I like L4D a lot, but Gears 2 wins this category for me. L4D is a terrific game, but Gears 2 is the better pure shooter.

[txshurricane]

Well, let's see here...

Popular games/series featuring "iron sights":
Rainbow Six Vegas
Call of Duty
Medal of Honor
Far Cry

Popular games/series featuring mid-range zoom:
GRAW
Gears of War
Mercenaries
...just off the top of my head. I figured that a thread full of shooter fans would know their way around shooters.

Just about the only FPS/TPS in the last couple of years without a zoom or precision targeting function has been Half-Life 2 and Halo 3-- oh, wait...I just figured out why I'm outnumbered. :cool:

[txshurricane]

From everyting I've read about SOCOM Confromtation, it isn't anywhere near the quality necessary for Shooter of the Year. YMMV though, and I haven't played it myself. All I hear about is how much it needs patching.
I'm with you. SOCOM has become absolute crap; the original is still the best. I just thought it would qualify as a "shooter" above games like Mercenaries 2, where's it's possible to beat the game without using a gun.

[pseudopseudo]

Well, let's see here...


...just off the top of my head. I figured that a thread full of shooter fans would know their way around shooters.

Just about the only FPS/TPS in the last couple of years without a zoom or precision targeting function has been Half-Life 2 and Halo 3-- oh, wait...I just figured out why I'm outnumbered. :cool:

Ooh, a "shooter purist".

Keep the condescending tone up - it's sure to sway people towards your side of the argument. Heh. :p

[txshurricane]

Ooh, a "shooter purist".

Keep the condescending tone up - it's sure to sway people towards your side of the argument. Heh. :p
Heck no. I'm an amateur gamer all around. In fact, I just looked up your Gamertag and laughed at the difference in scores...I wish I had as much time to waste. Seriously.
Either way, I'm not trying to sway anything, just adding in my two cents. After this, I'll quietly slink back to Co-Optimus, where apparently we have a Jerk Filter :D

[violent]

We're not gauging the shooting mechanics here, we're gauging the game. The best (shooter)game on that list as far as I'm concerned is L4D. Iron sights don't make the game.

[JayVe]

Iron sights don't make the game.

I'm gonna agree with you, and extrapolate even farther:

Features don't equal fun.

[pseudopseudo]

Heck no. I'm an amateur gamer all around. In fact, I just looked up your Gamertag and laughed at the difference in scores...I wish I had as much time to waste. Seriously.
Either way, I'm not trying to sway anything, just adding in my two cents. After this, I'll quietly slink back to Co-Optimus, where apparently we have a Jerk Filter :D

Ha! If you think my gamerscore is high... you haven't checked out many of the others' here. Also - it was about half what it is before I got laid off last month... unemployment = more game time. :o

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I HAD to take a crack at the snarky "oh, wait...I just figured out why I'm outnumbered." I've actually read some of the stuff you write over at Co-Op, and I dig it. *thumbs up*

[rinichanraar]

Heck no. I'm an amateur gamer all around. In fact, I just looked up your Gamertag and laughed at the difference in scores...I wish I had as much time to waste. Seriously.

Maybe you didn't mean for it to come off that way, but calling time spent playing video games as "time to waste" on a forum dedicated to video games kind of seems to be in bad taste.

[txshurricane]

I'm gonna agree with you, and extrapolate even farther:

Features don't equal fun.
Then why categorize (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)them such? :)

Everyone has a preference.

[Wackman3000]

Maybe you didn't mean for it to come off that way, but calling time spent playing video games as "time to waste" on a forum dedicated to video games kind of seems to be in bad taste.

Especially when you happen to be the associate editor of a sister site, about GAMING.

[txshurricane]

Maybe you didn't mean for it to come off that way, but calling time spent playing video games as "time to waste" on a forum dedicated to video games kind of seems to be in bad taste.
Oh, good god, we're all just wasting time here, aren't we? Or do you call posting on forums and playing video games productive?

I'm not knocking it. I'm a gamer, too, Colony. Have fun with it.

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[violent]

Then why categorize (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)them such? :)

Everyone has a preference.

Maybe my math isn't what it used to be but how do you equate best to realism?

[JayVe]

Then why categorize (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)them such? :)

Everyone has a preference.

I think there may have been a misinterpretation of features. I was referring to 'features' in the sense of additions to a game or product, not as in 'featured articles'.

You can have two games. One has a list of features on the back a mile long. The other doesn't. The feature list is no indication of the amount of fun to be had in a title. Adding features to a game does not necessarily add fun to a game.

I have a motto that I use almost daily in my work:

Doing something simply, and simply doing something, are at two opposite ends of the spectrum.

Adding 'features' to a game is easy. Removing features until only the core elements necessary for FUN, is a MUCH more difficult process.

[txshurricane]

I think there may have been a misinterpretation of features. I was referring to 'features' in the sense of additions to a game or product, not as in 'featured articles'.

You can have two games. One has a list of features on the back a mile long. The other doesn't. Adding features to a game does not necessarily add fun to a game.

I have a motto that I use almost daily in my work:

Doing something simply, and simply doing something, are at two opposite ends of the spectrum.

Adding 'features' to a game is easy. Removing features until only the core elements necessary for FUN, is a MUCH more difficult process.
I agree...hence my comment about SOCOM. Pac-Man is so much more fun than many of the games available now.

I prefer some type of precision aiming. I loved it for Star Wars Battlefront, and I've loved it for everything since. I read in the IGN review (don't scoff, I read them all for kicks) that Left 4 Dead sorely needed "iron sights", and I happen to agree.

Thinking that I'd find at least one person to agree with me, I posted what I did. I was wrong in thinking that anyone here would share that opinion. Either that, or my opinion doesn't matter because my post count is low. ;)

[txshurricane]

Maybe my math isn't what it used to be but how do you equate best to realism?
I never said anything about realism. I just said that my favorite shooter feature/mechanic seemed to be popular and that it was missing from a game that would have benefited from it...IMO.

I must have mixed up CoG with Dimension X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_X_(TMNT))...

[Variable Gear]

I read in the IGN review (don't scoff, I read them all for kicks) that Left 4 Dead sorely needed "iron sights", and I happen to agree.
Iron Sights are great for slower paced games, but Left 4 Dead definitely isn't one of those.

Valve was wise to simplify the gameplay.

[violent]

Thinking that I'd find at least one person to agree with me, I posted what I did. I was wrong in thinking that anyone here would share that opinion. Either that, or my opinion doesn't matter because my post count is low. ;)

No personal offense but it's not what you think that is disagreeable, it's your delivery. Especially if you're the lone holder of a particular belief, you're gonna have to be very cautious about explaining it properly lest it get pushed aside for unfair reason. If you can't see that then you really are wasting your time here.

[txshurricane]

No personal offense but it's not what you think that is disagreeable, it's your delivery. Especially if you're the lone holder of a particular belief, you're gonna have to be very cautious about explaining it properly lest it get pushed aside for unfair reason. If you can't see that then you really are wasting your time here.
I suppose you're right...but do you feel that my original post warranted the two following it? ;)

I'm the new guy, so of course I'll get razzed...that's all good.

And yes, I am wasting my time here. I'd much rather be making some money... :D

[JayVe]

Thinking that I'd find at least one person to agree with me, I posted what I did. I was wrong in thinking that anyone here would share that opinion. Either that, or my opinion doesn't matter because my post count is low. ;)

I think you'll find that very few people care about post count here. Most of us have been together for years, on another site prior to this one. Newcomers are always welcome, but you'll quickly find that posts that aren't well thought out will be chewed up and spit out the grinder. The ground material is then used as pie filling for humble pie. I've grown quite accustomed to the taste of such pies, and particularly adore the flaky crust.

[Mortis]

Use the hunting rifle if you want to zoom. Also, if you can't easily get headshots at range with the assault rifle/uzi you need more practice. Crouch if you need some help with accuracy. The game is very well balanced as it is, enemy speed, weapon damage, reload times etc., I would not use a zoom in a game with such a brisk pace.

[violent]

I suppose you're right...but do you feel that my original post warranted the two following it? ;)

Maybe, maybe not. Point is you laid it on the table and you can choose to explain why you feel the way you do or take your ball and go. There are no tears here.

I'm the new guy, so of course I'll get razzed...that's all good.

I've worked with a lot of people here for a long time and this has never been the case. On the contrary, we embrace new people

And yes, I am wasting my time here. I'd much rather be making some money... :D
Why don't you go do that then?

[txshurricane]

I think you'll find that very few people care about post count here. Most of us have been together for years, on another site prior to this one. Newcomers are always welcome, but you'll quickly find that posts that aren't well thought out will be chewed up and spit out the grinder. The ground material is then used as pie filling for humble pie. I've grown quite accustomed to the taste of such pies, and particularly adore the flaky crust.
I must have bumped into those "very few people", or maybe my post was too loud and woke up JayVe and pseudopseudo...

Either way, after this thread, I won't have to worry about my post count so much :)

I know which site most of CoG came from, and I tread lightly on that subject, because I was never a member there and avoided that site for a reason.

My particular brand of "writing" doesn't suit everyone, and it probably irks younger gamers who have yet to understand that patience goes farther than camping the sniper spot. Humble pie it is, then!

[txshurricane]

I've worked with a lot of people here for a long time and this has never been the case. On the contrary, we embrace new people
Um...okay.


Why don't you go do that then?
Actually, I am. Just waiting for 5:00 so the money-making and time-wasting stops, and I can go home to my wife. I need a massage.

[violent]

Actually, I am. Just waiting for 5:00 so the money-making and time-wasting stops, and I can go home to my wife.

Too bad that money fails to teach you how to communicate properly instead of blaming everything else for your inability to get your ideas across. You ask me, you should probably quit.

[pseudopseudo]

I must have bumped into those "very few people", or maybe my post was too loud and woke up JayVe and pseudopseudo...

Man, I could care less about post count, or you being new. Like I said, I recognized you from your writing over at Co-Op. My issue came with the tone that you ended your post with... that's all. It seemed equivalent to using the phrase "you people". Ha. Sorry if I came off a bit abrasive.

Nothing personal! Jeez, we're all friends here! (See my last post aimed your way.) :D

[txshurricane]

Too bad that money fails to teach you how to communicate properly instead of blaming everything else for your inability to get your ideas across. You ask me, you should probably quit.
Wow, you're awfully passionate. Congrats.

[violent]

Wow, you're awfully passionate. Congrats.

That's because I don't waste time.

[txshurricane]

Man, I could care less about post count, or you being new. Like I said, I recognized you from your writing over at Co-Op. My issue came with the tone that you ended your post with... that's all. It seemed equivalent to using the phrase "you people". Ha. Sorry if I came off a bit abrasive.

Nothing personal! Jeez, we're all friends here! (See my last post aimed your way.) :D
No harm done, just having fun. Except for violent, I think he needs a proctologist...

[txshurricane]

That's because I don't waste time.
violent
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[violent]

No harm done, just having fun. Except for violent, I think he needs a proctologist...

Tearful and witty. How you could have questioned your reception is beyond me.

[violent]

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:D

Not surprising, you fail at making a point.

[JayVe]

I must have bumped into those "very few people", or maybe my post was too loud and woke up JayVe and pseudopseudo...

Well, I'll just tell ya, posts like this get people's hackles up:

In fact, I just looked up your Gamertag and laughed at the difference in scores...I wish I had as much time to waste. Seriously.It can be taken many ways. Some people could EASILY see you as insinuating that their entertainment time is wasted, and that you are somehow better than that being more frugal with your time. That's not how I took it, but I could easily see it being understood as condescending.

It continues though...

"I am wasting my time here."
"I must have mixed up CoG with Dimension X..."

I don't think you intend to come across as negative as you do.

[txshurricane]

Well, I'll just tell ya, posts like this get people's hackles up:

It can be taken many ways. Some people could EASILY see you as insinuating that their entertainment time is wasted, and that you are somehow better than that being more frugal with your time. That's not how I took it, but I could easily see it being understood as condescending.

It continues though...

"I am wasting my time here."
"I must have mixed up CoG with Dimension X..."

I don't think you intend to come across as negative as you do.
No, I don't. Not at all. Maybe I'm too used to Co-Optimus, where we're generally more forgiving and casual. Or maybe I'm just too good at trolling; maybe I could switch jobs to Professional Troll, so I wouldn't be "wasting my time". That must be what violent does, he seems to think we're all being productive here.
Plus, I must be taller, because sarcasm and jesting doesn't fly right over my head... Oh, wait, I'm doing it again! :D Doh!

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, anyway.

[JayVe]

No, I don't. Not at all. Maybe I'm too used to Co-Optimus, where we're generally more forgiving and casual.

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.

No problem man. I guess there really is a culture difference between the two boards. Just remember, on Cog: The Internet is Serious Business! :D

[violent]

No, I don't. Not at all. Maybe I'm too used to Co-Optimus, where we're generally more forgiving and casual.

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.

Listen dude, no one has it out for you. Myself included. You have to realize though that while you came in here with a valid argument, you failed to explain why you felt that way. Instead you blamed pseudopseudo, JayVe, myself, this community based on your post count, the idea that this community is DimensionX and now the fact that this community isn't as casual and forgiving. You want to know what works here? State your case. Explain why you think what you do and the assholes and the genuines will be easy to pick out. You keep on slinging mud and you won't make any progress here. Take that as you will.

[pseudopseudo]

Just remember, on Cog: The Internet is Serious Business! :D

One might say, the "attitude" never rubbed off. LOL

[txshurricane]

No problem man. I guess there really is a culture difference between the two boards. Just remember, on Cog: The Internet is Serious Business! :D
I'll get broken in yet. I want to be a CoG Marine. I have a war face and all.

[txshurricane]

Listen dude, no one has it out for you. Myself included. You have to realize though that while you came in here with a valid argument, you failed to explain why you felt that way. Instead you blamed pseudopseudo, JayVe, myself, this community based on your post count, the idea that this community is DimensionX and now the fact that this community isn't as casual and forgiving. You want to know what works here? State your case. Explain why you think what you do and the assholes and the genuines will be easy to pick out. You keep on slinging mud and you won't make any progress here. Take that as you will.
You were right that I "fail in making my point", because you missed it every time.

First you said that I was using realism as a feature, and I never once alluded to realism...at all. Now you're accusing me of comparing CoG with Dimension X (a TMNT joke, by the way, which was probably before your time), when I was actually inferring that I was coming TO CoG FROM another dimension (my own little world...guess you've never heard the term).

Maybe I was being too cutesy for you. You should probably just skip my posts, since you're already skimming them.

Take your hand and wave it over your head; that's where my posts are going. Take that as you will. ;)

[JayVe]

I'll get broken in yet. I want to be a CoG Marine. I have a war face and all.

I think that may be the problem. You don't need a war face. Just state your side, back it up, be willing to change your mind when new evidence is presented or agree to disagree. Slinging mud, being snarky, and editing in 'I'm better than you' back-handed remarks like the one below will get you lots of attitude flak in return. I know from lots of first hand experience of having my ass handed to me in discussions.

Plus, I must be taller, because sarcasm and jesting doesn't fly right over my head... Oh, wait, I'm doing it again! Doh! :D
You should probably just skip my posts, since you're already skimming them.

Take your hand and wave it over your head; that's where my posts are going. Take that as you will. ;)

[txshurricane]

I think that may be the problem. You don't need a war face. Just state your side, back it up, be willing to change your mind when new evidence is presented or agree to disagree. Slinging mud, being snarky, and editing in 'I'm better than you' back-handed remarks like the one below will get you lots of attitude flak in return. I know from lots of first hand experience of having my ass handed to me in discussions.
Those are for that one fellow who would get stopped at a Jerk Filter. I don't think it's unreasonable to growl when poked, you know?

I don't know how many smileys it takes to show that it's all in good fun...

[violent]

Those are for that one fellow who would get stopped at a Jerk Filter. I don't think it's unreasonable to growl when poked, you know?

I don't know how many smileys it takes to show that it's all in good fun...

Eh. I won't be ignoring your posts. That's for little girls. I also won't try and reach common ground in here. Enjoy your stay.

[txshurricane]

Ha! If you think my gamerscore is high... you haven't checked out many of the others' here. Also - it was about half what it is before I got laid off last month... unemployment = more game time. :o

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I HAD to take a crack at the snarky "oh, wait...I just figured out why I'm outnumbered." I've actually read some of the stuff you write over at Co-Op, and I dig it. *thumbs up*
pseudopseudo, I missed this in the flurry of posts, and wanted to thank you for the compliment and for taking my rib jabs in good sport.

I hope you continue to enjoy my little blurbs, and likewise I'm going to start coming here more often, for better or for worse.

[Rogue_hunter]

Getting back to the topic at hand, Left 4 Dead is great for the co-op, Resistance 2 has awesome set pieces and co-op, and Mercs 2 is a straight up crazy shooter. Those are the three I played, and Gears never appealed to me ever, especially after borrowing the PC version of the first, and uninstalling it after 5 minutes. A Call of Duty game every year spells trouble for the franchise, especially after a kick-ass jaunt in modern times, going back to WW2 was just stupid. The only one I can't say anything about is Far Cry 2, it got lost in the rush.

Sadly, since I've been having problems with the PC I built (bad motherboard), I haven't had too much time to actually play Left 4 Dead, but what time was spent was fun. Though, I had more fun just piddling around in Mercs 2. Crysis Warhead would have been better served in that slot though, especially once you can actually play it on a system that handles it quite well.

[DarkDay]

Wholly shit! We are all different!

I learned many times over the years with these guys that.

1. Grammar matters
2. State your case
3.Im not as smart as I once thought I was
4. If im taken to task in the early days at least someone is responding to something I wrote.
5.Im a terrible poster that has gotten just a little better
6. I have terrible grammar.

[bapenguin]

Oh dear Jim, what have you done?

Don't mind him folks, he's just mad Left 4 Dead is a better game than Call of Duty: World at War. :)

[menage]

Gears 2, for the sole reason I haven't played the rest mind you.

[JayVe]

Oh dear Jim, what have you done?

Don't mind him folks, he's just mad Left 4 Dead is a better game than Call of Duty: World at War. :)
The guy is an editor at Co-Optimus, right? The co-op focused site? Left 4 Dead is a game built from the ground up around the NEED for co-op. little disconnected? ;)

[Variable Gear]

The guy is an editor at Co-Optimus, right? The co-op focused site? Left 4 Dead is a game built from the ground up around the NEED for co-op. little disconnected? ;)
What a nightmare.

I knew I never read Co-optimus for a reason, I just wasn't sure what that reason was. Until today. ;)

[Morangie]

I agree...hence my comment about SOCOM. Pac-Man is so much more fun than many of the games available now.

I prefer some type of precision aiming. I loved it for Star Wars Battlefront, and I've loved it for everything since. I read in the IGN review (don't scoff, I read them all for kicks) that Left 4 Dead sorely needed "iron sights", and I happen to agree.

Thinking that I'd find at least one person to agree with me, I posted what I did. I was wrong in thinking that anyone here would share that opinion. Either that, or my opinion doesn't matter because my post count is low. ;)

L4D has some type of "precision aiming". You crouch, your aim is more precise. The only difference from something like CoD is that you're also accurate when you're running around and you don't lose your entire field of view to focus down some sights.

Which would work about as well in L4D as it would in Serious Sam.

[H.Bogard]

I just want to ask one thing...

People still use ICQ? :eek:

[txshurricane]

A thousand nations of the Persian Empire descend upon me!

[MagGnome]

Where did all of the santa hats come from? Did I miss a thread?

It's hard to believe that I would. :p

[JayVe]

Where did all of the santa hats come from? Did I miss a thread?

It's hard to believe that I would. :p

Ho Ho Ho!

I added a hat for myself. When Variable Gear sent me a PM telling me it looks great, I made one for him too. I actually scrolled around looking at other avatars I could add a red, pointy hat to. When I saw Maggie's I said, "Oh! The gnome's already got a Santa hat!"

[MagGnome]

Ho Ho Ho!

I added a hat for myself. When Variable Gear sent me a PM telling me it looks great, I made one for him too. I actually scrolled around looking at other avatars I could add a red, pointy hat to. When I saw Maggie's I said, "Oh! The gnome's already got a Santa hat!"

Haha, I suppose I do, in a way.

Although if you wanted to spruce it up a bit I certainly wouldn't stop you. ;)

[JayVe]

Haha, I suppose I do, in a way.

Although if you wanted to spruce it up a bit I certainly wouldn't stop you. ;)

Actually, I was thinking something like this may work for ya. Replaced the cube with a CoG.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/MagGnome.jpg

[mister slim]

Very nice work, JayVe.

[violent]

I need help on mine. I know nothing of the ways of Photoshop.

[JayVe]

Very nice work, JayVe.

'Erasing' the old hat was fun.

[JayVe]

I need help on mine. I know nothing of the ways of Photoshop.

How does something like this work for ya?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/VIOLENT.jpg

[violent]

How does something like this work for ya?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/VIOLENT.jpg

You sir, are the true gentleman and scholar.

EDIT: That is so awesome. Thank you.

[JayVe]

You sir, are the true gentleman and scholar.

EDIT: That is so awesome. Thank you.

No, thank YOU! I'm glad I can put my simplistic photo-chop skills to some good use and make someone happy.

[violent]

No, thank YOU! I'm glad I can put my simplistic photo-chop skills to some good use and make someone happy.

You've proven to be a master at the shop. Don't think we haven't noticed.

[Ravenlock]

Another vote for Left 4 Dead. From what little I played of them, Mercs and Far Cry 2 were fine, but neither of them were doing anything nearly as new as what L4D managed to pull off so well. CoD:WaW is CoD 4 reskinned - yay - and I have zero interest in ever playing Gears of War 2.

Easy choice.

EDIT: Those are awesome. If you have five extra minutes, Black Mage would also like a Christmas hat. ;)

[JayVe]

EDIT: Those are awesome. If you have five extra minutes, Black Mage would also like a Christmas hat. ;)
Your wish is my command, santaman!

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/ravenlockjpg.jpg

[MagGnome]

Thank you so much JayVe! I love it! :D

[JayVe]

Thank you so much JayVe! I love it! :D

Awesome! Glad I can bring a tiny bit of holiday cheer to you CoG'ing. :)

[rinichanraar]

This thread just got awesome. Great job with all the hats, JayVe! :)

[Ravenlock]

Dude, that is freaking awesome. Thank you a bundle. :D

[JayVe]

Dude, that is freaking awesome. Thank you a bundle. :D

Excellent! I'm glad you like! :D

[Grifter]

I would love a Santa hat if you still have the time.

[mister slim]

Oh yeah, do it. Put one on the gun too.

[Psykoboy2]

Oh yeah, do it. Put one on the gun too.

Slim, I think yours could use a silhouette of a sleigh and reindeer.

[mister slim]

Hmm, I'll see if I can throw something like that together.

[JayVe]

Slim, I think yours could use a silhouette of a sleigh and reindeer.

I like this idea.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/globalfreq63x614kb.jpg

[JayVe]

I would love a Santa hat if you still have the time.

I added a little extra. Hope you don't mind.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/grifterava-2.jpg

[mister slim]

I like this idea.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/globalfreq63x614kb.jpg

Thank you very much. Once again my procrastination skills pay off.

[pomeroy]

Oh my god, I want one!

[MagGnome]

Don't give Pomegranate one! He's been a naughty boy this year. ;)

[Grifter]

I added a little extra. Hope you don't mind.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/grifterava-2.jpg

It's awesome, thanks.

[pomeroy]

Don't give Pomegranate one! He's been a naughty boy this year. ;)

That is true. I've been breaking hearts all year long.

[MagGnome]

That is true. I've been breaking hearts all year long.

I can definitely see you breaking the hearts of all the ladies in Lincoln. Hopefully they are on to you. :p

[rinichanraar]

I made a super fake-looking imitation Santa hat with the Mac equivalent of Paint. :D

[mister slim]

It came out nice though.

[JayVe]

I made a super fake-looking imitation Santa hat with the Mac equivalent of Paint. :D

Hey! It came out looking super!

I didn't know Macs could 'do graphics' ;)

[JayVe]

Oh my god, I want one!

Hee hee

Hope you like!

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/pomeroy.jpg

[pseudopseudo]

Hee hee

Hope you like!

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/pomeroy.jpg

That's... freakin' awesome. Me next? (Mine's gotta be easy... I just don't have Paint on this computer. Weird, right?)

[rinichanraar]

I find it hilarious that, of all threads, the "Best Shooter" thread has turned into a thread dedicated to making Santa hats for avatars. :)

It came out nice though.

Thanks! I love your reindeer, too!

Hey! It came out looking super!

I didn't know Macs could 'do graphics' ;)

Thank you! That's very encouraging coming from the Master of Hats!

What's funny is that the program I used was freeware I downloaded to make up for the lack of Paint. :p

[JayVe]

That's... freakin' awesome. Me next? (Mine's gotta be easy... I just don't have Paint on this computer. Weird, right?)

Since you've already got a hat, I tried something else a little festive.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/Pseudopseudo.jpg

[pseudopseudo]

Since you've already got a hat, I tried something else a little festive.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/Pseudopseudo.jpg

Okay... that's probably the best thing ever! Ha! Thank you!

[mister slim]

Thanks! I love your reindeer, too!


Thanks! JayVe did all the work but I'll take the credit.

[Psykoboy2]

You should start a "Xmas Icon" thread or something. I see soooo many good ones that need some holiday cheer shoved all up in them.

[pseudopseudo]

You should start a "Xmas Icon" thread or something. I see soooo many good ones that need some holiday cheer shoved all up in them.

"The Xmas Thread: All Holes Filled! (...with holiday cheer!)"