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J Arcane
10-02-2008, 12:52 PM
I know the site is young yet, and by and large has so far been mostly trouble free, but it's best to hash out these things before hand, and technically my request regards an issue that has already come up once.

Don't delete threads. Don't delete posts. This was a serious pet peeve of mine regarding the way matters were handled on Evil Avatar. It smacks of censorship, and only leaves the rest of the userbase confused as to what happened.

Short of outright spam, just leave the threads in place, add a moderator note regarding the event if the thread is to be allowed to continue, or just lock the thread and let it fall.

In general, I am a big big fan of hands-off, prescriptive moderation. Don't focus on consequences, focus on encouraging the right sort of discussion. It's how theRPGsite is run, and it seems to work out quite well. The only people we've ever outright banned are spammers and sockpuppets. A few people were blocked from individual forums. Everything else is left to the community to handle. If someone talks bullshit, they get called on it, the mods don't need to be involved in any official action, short of serious, major site disruptions.

I found the way that Evil Avatar (the forum in general, not the person) handled such matters in general to be rather poor and inconsistent, and the easiest way to avoid such things is to simple "spare the rod" as it were, until absolutely necessary.

I'm definitely not requesting any kind of codified rules, that shit just leads to idiotic rules lawyering in every case I've ever seen and murders discussion as people play silly passive-aggressive games trying to skirt around them or use them as a bludgeon against their perceived "enemies".

This is just my personal take, obviously, but I hoped to get it out there and considered, as well as start a general discussion on the nature of such things going forward, so that some sense of how things will be handled will occur BEFORE something has to be done and the inevitable shitstorm occurs. Not saying it won't, but having some idea where things stand and how things should be handled before hand will defuse some of it.

TheFlyingOrc
10-02-2008, 12:56 PM
Delete this thread.

axion
10-02-2008, 12:59 PM
You're just asking for an infraction with talk like that.

TheKeck
10-02-2008, 12:59 PM
I was going to jokingly give TFO an infraction for that post, but it was too complicated. :p

Edit: Ninja'd by Axion!

pheriannath
10-02-2008, 05:18 PM
I cannot speak for the other moderators, but short of someone posting lemonparty or other highly offensive material, I will never delete a thread, only lock them.

Clark
10-02-2008, 07:49 PM
In before the lock!

AgtFox
10-02-2008, 07:51 PM
And we would obviously delete duplicate posts, especially when users point them out.

n3rdXcore
10-02-2008, 07:52 PM
These sound like good guidelines to follow, but I agree that we should never have a specific ruleset, as that could cause problems regarding "infractions".

crispy951
10-02-2008, 07:53 PM
I didn't know what lemonparty was...so I looked it up. I really wish I hadn't...

AgtFox
10-02-2008, 07:55 PM
I didn't know what lemonparty was...so I looked it up. I really wish I hadn't...
Yeah, probably should have asked first we could have told you to not look. It's one of those things that can't be unseen so to speak.

crispy951
10-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Yeah, probably should have asked first we could have told you to not look. It's one of those things that can't be unseen so to speak.

Ya..I'd rank it right up there with tubgirl and goatsy...bleh.

J Arcane
10-02-2008, 07:58 PM
I didn't know what lemonparty was...so I looked it up. I really wish I hadn't...
I learned a long time ago to never look. Tubgirl was enough, thanks. I've never seen lemonparty, 2girls1cup, and know goatse only by second hand references. I consider myself a better person for it. ;)

pomeroy
10-02-2008, 07:58 PM
I didn't know what lemonparty was...so I looked it up. I really wish I hadn't...

"It's not a Lemon party without old Dick!"

God, I love 30 Rock.

And I feel for you...but seeing lemonparty is part of growing up on the internet. Sorta like goatse. You don't want to see it, but it's inevitable.

DoctorFinger
10-02-2008, 08:04 PM
The only threads/posts I plan on deleting are

A) Obvious spam
B) Porn and/or piracy links
C) Links to malware/spoofing sites

The only other threads I'll delete is when the creator asks me to. I'll close and merge threads, but I agree about the deleting.

pseudopseudo
10-02-2008, 08:14 PM
Ban J Arcane, lock and delete this thread.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wait... that's not funny.

LarsenNET
10-02-2008, 08:25 PM
I have no idea what a lemonparty is but I think that is for the best.

Shadowstorm
10-02-2008, 09:34 PM
How long have some of you guys been exposed to the Internet?

AgtFox
10-02-2008, 11:36 PM
How long have some of you guys been exposed to the Internet?
I was there when Al Gore created it! ;)

squirrelTactics
10-02-2008, 11:40 PM
I learned to fap the first time I visited Lemonparty.

Xerxes
10-02-2008, 11:42 PM
Seems like there will be room for much noise in threads at CoG. Not sure if I am to rejoice or groan.

Norse
10-03-2008, 01:19 AM
IMHO the moderation over at EvAv worked great except for the times EvAv himself got involved and things became personal. I trust the current moderators here, so I'm sure it'll be as good as it gets.

Goronmon
10-03-2008, 01:21 AM
I think having a "dump" forum for any threads that would normally be deleted might be a fun idea. Aside from the straight up spam, lemonparty, etc type stuff.

BLeeP
10-03-2008, 01:40 AM
I think having a "dump" forum for any threads that would normally be deleted might be a fun idea. Aside from the straight up spam, lemonparty, etc type stuff.

I like this idea. Mark the forum as read at your own risk, NSFW, etc. and just make it a place to peruse other peoples mistakes (the threads would be locked of course).

n3rdXcore
10-03-2008, 02:46 AM
I think having a "dump" forum for any threads that would normally be deleted might be a fun idea. Aside from the straight up spam, lemonparty, etc type stuff.

I like this idea. Mark the forum as read at your own risk, NSFW, etc. and just make it a place to peruse other peoples mistakes (the threads would be locked of course).

I second this idea. Sometimes it's fun to read over the shit that exists, solely for being shit, yet this keeps them from cluttering the main forum pages.

edit: I love multiquote.

Kielaran
10-03-2008, 06:00 AM
I didn't know what lemonparty was...so I looked it up. I really wish I hadn't...

Save your eyes next time and check it out on Urban Dictionary...it may hurt to read about it, but it is way better than seeing it firsthand. (this method saved me from 2G1C)

Typical Michael
10-03-2008, 08:09 AM
I think that as long as people arent tool-factories, there wont need to be too much moderation. Just ask yourself "does this make me look like a tool-manufacturer" before you post it and everything will be tasty cakes.

Seconds Out
10-03-2008, 09:34 PM
The only threads/posts I plan on deleting are

A) Obvious spam
B) Porn and/or piracy links
C) Links to malware/spoofing sites

The only other threads I'll delete is when the creator asks me to. I'll close and merge threads, but I agree about the deleting.

Cmon dude, porn links??? You forget how well I know you Doctor!