Anyone else have Hackentosh experience?

[J Arcane]

'Cause mine's slighty broken thanks to 10.5.5, and the bunch of unhelpful fuckers on InsanelyMac won't even answer my bloody questions.

[KingGorilla]

Sorry my only help was going to be, Don't do it if you plan on updating your Mac OS. Steve Jobs doesn't like his baby-boo open top the world like some two bit whore.

And the future of these sorts of projects is in serious jeopardy as Apple gets ready for a Circuit Court battle.

[J Arcane]

Well, I have a feeling 10.6 may find a way to totally bury the OSX86 community, or at least that was the fear when they first started talking about it. With actually hardware EFI methods now, it might remain possible I dunno.

It's moot for me though, because 10.6 is supposed to finally go completely 64-bit clean through and through, which means heckenmacers like me scraping by and old salvaged Pentium chips and SSE emulation are fucked.

Really, I was only ever just hoping to hold out long enough for the next mac mini revision, but it looks like I'm not even gonna make it that far as my patience sorta ran out yesterday, and I hesitate to bother with the 3rd or 4th reformat it's gonna take to get shit working again.

[Stmfuller]

is a hackentosh experience like waking up naked with another dude in your bed???

I kid I kid


Seriously though, apple has made it clear they want to keep their OS closed to outside hardware...and quite frankly, I love my macbook pro just the way it is.
I just have such a hard time understanding why you would do this to yourself knowing that you can buy a real apple computer with all the money/time you wasted buying the parts for your pc/mac Frankenstein.
Or even better, aren't there ways of making a linux or windows PC act like an Apple??
Sounds like a lot less hassle to me. I mean, I had a buddy today say he was thinking about doing this to a new build...and i told him the same thing. If you want an Apple computer, fucking buy one. If you want something else, build something else.

[J Arcane]

It didn't cost me a dime. The whole box was cobbled together from the guts of several old boxes, originally as a cheap upgrade for an even more decripit box, so I'd have something that could handle Call of Duty 4 and TF2.

It was actually something of a lark that I installed it originally at all. I had a friend's Powerbook G4 I was trying to get updated, but for some bloody reason the only way I could build an OS disk for it was having an OS X system to do it from. Since the only other one available was an ancient candy-plast iMac, I decided to give the OS X thing a go.

And come on, it's fucking OS X, man. Leopard is the best damn OS I've ever used. Hands down, beats the hell out of everything out there without a contest. And no, there really aren't ways to make Windows or Linux behave like an Apple. There's a lot of cheap shitty attempts to knockoff various features, even a few of 'em built right into Vista if you can stomach it, but not a one of them works as well.

When Apple puts out a new revision of the mini to go in line with the new Macbook revision, I'll do what I can to scrape together the cash. Until then, there's no fucking way I'm blowing $600+ on a box running a low-end laptop CPU and Intel graphics, and no chance in hell I'm even going to be able to afford an iMac or a Mac Pro anytime in the next half decade at least.

Apple has a great OS, but the person who's been in charge of their hardware lineup needs to be shot in the fucking head.

[Khrymsyn]

Apple has a great OS, but the person who's been in charge of their hardware lineup needs to be shot in the fucking head.


While I somewhat agree with your sentiment, the reality is one of the reasons Apple can always tout things like stability over a Windows box is the Windows OS is trying to be compatible to everything, where the MAC OS can tailor itself to a very specific subset of hardware, reducing the number of variations exponentially (and therefore the number of problems).

Only way to make sure that continues is to continue to be very specific on what hardware is allowed and what isn't. It has the added bonus into locking you into thier price point, and thier support strucuture, which is what they tend to do with everything they make.


I'd love to see Mac OS compete "apples to apples" with Windows (i.e. not have the hardware be the determining factor). It'd be very interesting to see stability differences between the two, and if the Mac OS would make larger market share gains in doing so.

[J Arcane]

Honestly, stability wise? I think it would do just bloody fine. There's not a thing in my box that OS X was really designed for, it's even emulating the SSE instructions because the CPU is only a Pentium 4.

Yet it runs fantastically, the only problem is updating, and that's not a stability problem, that's an Apple DRM problem.

[BetterOffZED]

If you want an Apple computer, fucking buy one. If you want something else, build something else.

Not to troll....but I have the same argument for MAC users that use Boot Camp. As for Hackentoshing it, sometimes it isn't about having a having it as much as being able to do it.

[Stmfuller]

Not to troll....but I have the same argument for MAC users that use Boot Camp. As for Hackentoshing it, sometimes it isn't about having a having it as much as being able to do it. I basically agree. I used boot camp in the past, and honestly I got rid of it because everything I wanted to do on the Mac, I could do w/out the windows portion.

Now, there are reasons to have a virtual environment. Testing cross platform etc. is fine.

[J Arcane]

Not to troll....but I have the same argument for MAC users that use Boot Camp. As for Hackentoshing it, sometimes it isn't about having a having it as much as being able to do it.
Exzcept the argument really doesn't bloody apply to the Boot Camp situation at all.

Apple boxes are still PCs, the only reason they can't run Windows out of the box is because the windows world still hasn't upgraded to EFI.

It's not the same bloody thing, has none of the same problems, and isn't somehow disallowed by Microsoft. MS doesn't give a shit, you can put Windows on your fucking iRobot and they wouldn't care so long as you paid for it.

Also, try running a decent PC game game in Crossover sometime, and tell me there's nothing worth booting over to Windows for. I should think that would be self-explanatory, this being a gaming site and all.