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DoctorFinger
12-07-2008, 09:21 AM
Welcome to Week Eight of the Official Colony of Gamers Comic Book Reviews

Remember, these are NOT spoiler-free reviews.

Colony of Gamer’s Weekly Comic Book Reviews – Year 1 – Week 8


Secret Invasion #8 (of 8 )
Reviewed By: Michael "Doctor Finger" Chauvet
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Penciller: Lenil Yu
Inker: Mark Morales
Colorists: Laura Martin
Letterer: Chris Eliopoulos
Editor: Tom Brevoort
$3.99

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So endeth the war. Well, sort of. Only the first few pages of this issue actually deal with the end of the war; the rest being tidying up the loose ends and setting up stories moving forward. So let's begin with the big developments: most notably the death of The Wasp. At the end of last issue she has been transformed into a last-ditch bio weapon of last resort by theSkrulls . She's dying, and in the process killing everyone around her. Thor has to use his power to push her into the sky before she eventually dissipates. This, royally pisses off the rest of the heroes, who all make a move on Queen Veranke (who I could have sworn died last issue), but the one who actually gets the killshot is Norman Osborne. The rest of the battle is largely academic, as the heroes proceed to put a whuppin on the remaining Skrulls. But Iron Man does make one discovery: a ship in orbit containing all of the humans the Skrulls had copied, including Spider-Woman, the Invisible Woman, Jarvis, Yellowjacket and Mockingbird. But things aren't all good. Jessica Jones realizes that the Jarvis she left her and Cage's baby with is a Skrull, and now they're both gone. Thor is still pissed at Tony Stark over his betrayals during Civil War, and tells Stark that he won't be the only one laying the blame for theSkrull Invasion on his shoulders. Norman Osborne is proclaimed the real hero of the invasion, and with the disbanding of SHIELD (too compromised to continue) he's given the keys toSHIELD's replacement as well as the Initiative and the Avengers themselves. The issue ends with Osborne meeting with the 'Evil Illuminati':Namor, Emma Frost, Dr. Doom, Loki and The Hood.

Lets start with the Death. Janet Van Dyne, aka The Wasp is dead. And if I were a betting man, I'd say that this one will stick for at least a few years, but that doesn't make it a great death. Stories being told about it going forward may give it some weight, but it felt to me like it was a major death for the sake of itself. Iapplaud Secret Invasion for keeping the gratuitous deaths to a minimum, but bumping off the Wasp didn't add much to the story (not to mention that it could be considered deus ex machina, because the only place this was referenced before #7 was one of the tie-in Avenger books). I've been praising Lenil Yu's work throughout this series, but I have to ding him a little here. Things felt a bit rushed, and there were some very unclear parts. Not awful, just a bit below the high standard he'd set in earlier issues. What this issue really does well - and I'm sure this will bug some people - is set the stage for the greater Marvel U going forward. Stark is disgraced, the Initiative is broken, Nick Fury is still paranoid and distrustful, Cage and Jessica are looking for their kid, and most of all the Bad Guys seem to be in charge. In most miniseries' this would offend me, but one of the goals of an event comic is to spawn these sort of new directions.

Bottom Line:
Some people will call this issue slow, but to me it was just right. It wrapped up the story, while planting some fascinating seeds for things going forward.

CoG Says: "Love It!" (4 out of 5 Cogs)
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X-Men: Noir #1 (of 4)
Reviewed By: Michael "Doctor Finger" Chauvet
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Writer: Fred Van Lente
Artist: Dennis Calero
Letterer: Nate Piekos
Editor: Nathan Cosby
$3.99

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I get mocked, and not without reason, for my love of the X-Men franchise. I don't apologize for it, because it's really the most versatile property in major comics. As evidenced by this week's offering: X-Men:Noir, an alternate universe tale which transcribes the characters most associated with the franchise to a Phillip Marlow-esque world, sans powers. Most of the big boys are here. Xavier, Magneto, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Cyclops, the Blob, Gambit and of course Jean Grey. Jean is given the role she's most suited to: a corpse. It's her nude body, found floating in the East River with a series of slash marks - in groups of 3 - cut into her, that opens the story. Investigating the murder are veteran detective Fred Dukes and his wet behind the ears partner, PeterMagnus. Peter is the son of NYPD Chief Eric Magnus , and is derisively referred to as the 'crown prince'. Peter wants to be a good cop, but his family is the heart of abuse and corruption in the city. Parallelling Peter's investigation is TomHalloway (the Golden Age hero known as The Angel in the main universe), who is investigating Jean's death for his own shadowy reasons. Both learn that Jean is part of the X-Men, a team of delinquents who lived at Xavier's reform school. Instead of actually reforming them, Xavier teaches them to be better crooks (supposedly). Halloway goes to Rikers to meet Xavier, who engages him in a philosophical discussion. Tom - in costume - goes to the Xavier Institute to investigate, but he's jumped by Hank McCoy, Scott Summers and (I think) Bobby Drake. Scott pulls out a gun and blasts Holloway.

The Noir line is pretty high concept. Taking superheroes and placing them in a 1930's setting, sans all of the things that make them superheroes. In this instance, it's only mildly successful. The cameos - Gambit as a cabaret owner, Bishop as his muscle, and Rogue as a delinquent street kid - were cute, but the overall story is very paint by numbers. The dialogue is good, but too many of the motivations are still murky. Why doesHalloway take an interest in the case? Hell, how does he learn about it? Making Magneto the king of crooked cops, with the Brotherhood as his henchmen, is great, but we just don't get enough from the rest of the characters to float the book. Calero does a very good job on the art, although the oppressive darkness is so overwhelming and omnipresent as to almost cross over into parody (note, the sun did exist in the 1930s).

Bottom Line:
An interesting story, but I can't tell if it's really a good one.

CoG Says: "Borrow It!" (3 out of 5 Cogs)
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Quick Hits
Cable #9 - A book that plays out more like a chess game, with moves made long ago paying off at unexpected times. That last page, with Bishop standing over a prone Cyclops, gave me chills.
Justice Society of America #21 - The JSA learns just how bad Gog can be, and their gifts are all taken back.
Boys #25 - Best. X-Men Parody. Ever.

Cupelix
12-07-2008, 09:30 AM
I'm confused by the presence of Emma Frost in the "Evil Illuminati." For years now the X Books have been attempting to redeem her and make her a "good" character who is simply cold. This seems like a very jarring twist, to me.

muddi900
12-07-2008, 09:43 AM
I wonder why people call the Marvel U realistic? It is by very convoluted, headache inducing and quite frankly, boring. And Norman Osbourne is lame!

MosBen
12-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Well, the Marvel U is generally considered "more realistic" than the DCU in that it had its roots in heroes that were more the person than the hero. Superman's books were more about the people he fought while Spider-Man's were about Peter Parker's life. There's also the fact that the Marvel U sticks to (mostly) real world cities/presidents/etc. I don't think anyone would argue that the Marvel U is "realistic" in the way physics work or in the way invasions/wars/etc. are always breaking out. Any universe with hundreds of writers and thousands of books over the years is going to get a bit convoluted and, to a certain degree, confusing.

Why do you think Norman Osborn is lame? Truth be told I think he's one of the more interesting characters in the Marvel U of the last few years.

Cupelix, Bendis said in an interview with Newsarama that he's not going to undo all the work Joss Whedon did with Emma. He said her position in the Dark Illuminati was conflicted at best and something he's planning on exploring. I don't expect a return to the Emma of old. Similarly, Namor hasn't ever been really evil, so I don't expect his participation in this group to be in that vein.

Savok
12-07-2008, 10:54 AM
I'm confused by the presence of Emma Frost in the "Evil Illuminati." For years now the X Books have been attempting to redeem her and make her a "good" character who is simply cold. This seems like a very jarring twist, to me.
It's magic, we don't have to explain it.

Seriously, every page I've seen from Secret Invasion #8 was so laughably bad, I'd wonder how it ever got published by anyone were it not for previous drek like One More Day.

Out of nowhere Jan's dying! Why? Uh... Skrulls! And look, everyone was in one ship and they're just walking out like nothing happened, hooray! Man that invasion sucked, Tony Stark sucks, lets put Green Goblin in charge of everything! Why? Uh... he likes killing Skrulls!

And thanks to Dark Reign we have Coming Soon, Hobo Namor (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6700088.html#cutid1), crap that makes no sense (http://pics.livejournal.com/redorion/pic/0017a0z5), and this

SECRET INVASION: REQUIEM
Written by DAN SLOTT
Pencils & Cover by KHOI PHAM
An important stepping stone to the big shake-up in MIGHTY AVENGERS by the new creative team of Dan Slott and Khoi Pham, featuring a new name and identity for one of Marvel's classic characters! In this 8-page story after the tragic events of SECRET INVASION #8, two of Earth's mightiest heroes reflect on the life and times of a fallen comrade.
Plus over 40 pages reprinting two classic tales from Marvel’s Silver and Bronze ages: the Wasp’s first appearance (TALES TO ASTONISH #44) and the infamous Hank-hitting-Jan story (AVENGERS #213) — presented with all-new, modern coloring.

That's just fucking super Marvel, you kill one of the few halfway competent women with any power in the MU and to send her off, you recolour the story about Hank where he happens to hit her along the way (and attack her with his robot). That.... that's just fantastic Marvel.

And the end of the painfully drawn out Gog story ends by hitting every cliche in the book, jesus fuck what a week.

Least we got Haunted Tank, which I blame this book (http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-13-Architecture-Morality/dp/1401215521) for making me read. And Deadpool in a good comic, damned rare sight these days.

DoctorFinger
12-07-2008, 11:01 AM
I don't think Emma is evil any more than Namor is. But, they're shady; not evil but not heroes in the normal sense, either. She's still the same Emma the Scott Lobdell, Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon have made into (who I think) is one of the most compelling characters in comics today. Ultimately she'll do whatever she must to insure mutants survive, and if that means allying with Osborne and his crew, so be it.

Savok
12-07-2008, 11:03 AM
The MU has reached the point where every bad thing that happens to it is so utterly deserved you simply can't support any hero trying to do "the right thing".

They're saving a city and you're like "no, stop, let the whole fucking world burn so Aaron and Jocasta can repopulate it with robot babies or something". Get the handful of people that deserve to live and stick them on the moon so they can have adventures fighting moon rodents.

muddi900
12-07-2008, 11:34 AM
It's magic, we don't have to explain it.

Seriously, every page I've seen from Secret Invasion #8 was so laughably bad, I'd wonder how it ever got published by anyone were it not for previous drek like One More Day.


How is it any different than anything marvel has put out before? Its the same old crap reprocessed for the same old people. Same can be said about DC. I haven't read a single book from any of the 2 since I've been reading comics, besides Iron Fist and Green Lantern. Granted, I haven't been reading them for long, but that's another thing; these books are inaccessible to newcomers. I've tried to get into both, and have been severely disappointed.



Why do you think Norman Osborn is lame? Truth be told I think he's one of the more interesting characters in the Marvel U of the last few years.



He is a guy who used to dress up like a retarded elf and throw pumpkin bombs. LAME!

Purple Santa
12-07-2008, 01:06 PM
He is a guy who used to dress up like a retarded elf and throw pumpkin bombs. LAME!

Yeah, but then they turned him into a really cool business man type of evil villain. I actually liked the way they brought him back from the dead. And i'm usually not someone who likes to see that type of plot happenings. But I stopped following comics and now, I need a recap of what the old GG has been up to.

And comic books, have never been kind to new comers. I collected for 20 yrs and that complaint was one long before I was collecting...and obviously..one that will continue after i'm not collecting...it must work since comic books are still around and big business :)

muddi900
12-07-2008, 01:43 PM
And comic books, have never been kind to new comers. I collected for 20 yrs and that complaint was one long before I was collecting...and obviously..one that will continue after i'm not collecting...it must work since comic books are still around and big business :)

And 20 years ago, you were how old? The reason you are still collecting is because you got the "bug" at a young age. Kids are not buying comics. No new collectors, because the big 2 have taken the "safe" route.

General inaccessibility of Comics is a myth.Comics as a medium is very easy to get into. There is a great pile of stuff out there that is superior to anything you'll read with Batman or Iron Man in it, and which any odd reader can get into. It's sad that it never sells as well.

And as far as Osbourne is concerned, he died and turned into Luthor, still LAME!

Ghost Rider
12-07-2008, 02:55 PM
And 20 years ago, you were how old? The reason you are still collecting is because you got the "bug" at a young age. Kids are not buying comics. No new collectors, because the big 2 have taken the "safe" route.

General inaccessibility of Comics is a myth.Comics as a medium is very easy to get into. There is a great pile of stuff out there that is superior to anything you'll read with Batman or Iron Man in it, and which any odd reader can get into. It's sad that it never sells as well.

And as far as Osbourne is concerned, he died and turned into Luthor, still LAME!

I agree with your opinion on accessibility, but I think kids not buying as many comics is more complicated. There's a lot more things for kids to spend their pocket money on, as well as the fact comics aren't as cool anymore.

I guess the question is how to make them cool again.

muddi900
12-07-2008, 03:22 PM
I agree with your opinion on accessibility, but I think kids not buying as many comics is more complicated. There's a lot more things for kids to spend their pocket money on, as well as the fact comics aren't as cool anymore.

I guess the question is how to make them cool again.

Kids are not buying comics because they're unreadable, convoluted mess that they can't get into. There'll always be a kid who's attracted by the art, but he will never pick up another issue if he can't get into the story.In short, they're uncool because they suck!

Once again, Comics are very easy to get into. DC and Marvel aren't.

Heresyte
12-07-2008, 03:27 PM
Has anybody been reading these Question (http://dccomics.com/search/?q=question+dennis&x=0&y=0) trades DC has been putting out (or perhaps read the comic back in the 80s)? I'm reading through the third one right now and I just wanted to come here and let everyone know how awesome they are.

Sazime
12-07-2008, 04:17 PM
This, royally pisses off the rest of the heroes, who all make a move on Queen Veranke (who I could have sworn died last issue)...
Arrow through the cheeks, not the head. :)
Jean is given the role she's most suited to: a corpse.
Oh, snap!
I'm confused by the presence of Emma Frost in the "Evil Illuminati." For years now the X Books have been attempting to redeem her and make her a "good" character who is simply cold. This seems like a very jarring twist, to me.
Can you say "undercover agent?"
Why do you think Norman Osborn is lame? Truth be told I think he's one of the more interesting characters in the Marvel U of the last few years.
Agreed. And Ellis writing him for a year elevated the character to a whole new level.
She's still the same Emma the Scott Lobdell, Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon.
Am I the only one who thinks Whedon didn't add anything to her character? She is as she had been with Lobdell and Morrison. I liked what Whedon did, but it wasn't anything new, imo.
Get the handful of people that deserve to live and stick them on the moon so they can have adventures fighting moon rodents.
*sigh* The Inhumans live on the moon, sir. They'd be fighting Inhumans. Do really read Marvel books? Again, I question whether you really do or not. ;)
Has anybody been reading these Question (http://dccomics.com/search/?q=question+dennis&x=0&y=0) trades DC has been putting out (or perhaps read the comic back in the 80s)? I'm reading through the third one right now and I just wanted to come here and let everyone know how awesome they are.
Kip is a huge fan of that series. I need to read it some time. One day... one day...

agentgray
12-07-2008, 05:25 PM
While, I've not read any SI thanks to the reviews here, I have been reading Thunderbolts. I love the idea of a comic universe run by Osborn.

He's fooling everyone and I cannot wait for the eventual public snap. I find it interesting that a villain of Spider-Man (which one, to be for sure? - still bitter :D ) is now sort of the Lex Luthor of the Marvel U.

Oh, Marvel, I now see what you did there...

I also love, that my three favorite books, Captain America, Daredevil, and Iron Fist have been left almost untouched by this "epic" crap. Spigot and I were comparing issue sales the other day and it looks like epic events are here to stay—annually.

The sad thing is that the two books I really liked on the DC side of things came from an epic event and since then their excellent writers have been moved to other pieces of epic junk and now they are doomed for cancellation (Booster Gold and Blue Beetle)

Jamie Reyes is what the BND Peter Parker should have been. (It pisses me off that the writers of Spider-Man are still making in-jokes and references to the BND detractors with characters making fourth-wall breaking lines)

Xerxes
12-07-2008, 05:26 PM
I once wanted to recommend this TPB but I guess it's gone kind of rare and expensive. The Killer Volume 1 seems to now be offered at a reasonable price at Borders (http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=1932386440). Volume 2 should be offered sometime in February.

Sazime
12-07-2008, 08:04 PM
Alright, I've read the Punisher Xmas special and Wolverine: Manifest Destiny back to back. Both by Jason Aaron.

My god. Can this boy write a one shot and/or mini or what? He's been writing various Wolverine stories over the last year, and he consistently makes the character interesting and fun. The first time, it was along the lines of a group just seeing how much punishment they could give him before his healing factor gave out. This time, its Kun-Fu Triads and good 'ol Chinese mysticism. Dialogue is just clear and to the point, and you really feel like his characters are intelligent. Something that most writers can't seem to grasp with Wolverine's enemies. They tend to be idiotic bruisers or smart guys that just consistently do dumb things.

And mixing the birth of Jesus with a mafia kill quest for the Punisher? Genius. That's all, just genius.

Savok
12-07-2008, 09:29 PM
*sigh* The Inhumans live on the moon, sir. They'd be fighting Inhumans. Do really read Marvel books? Again, I question whether you really do or not. ;)
I include the Inhumans too actually, based purely on Medusa's total shit ruining as she went looking for her husband.

Plus with Asgard up there we can have event books like "War of the Moon Kingdoms".

Sazime
12-08-2008, 12:31 AM
I include the Inhumans too actually, based purely on Medusa's total shit ruining as she went looking for her husband.

Plus with Asgard up there we can have event books like "War of the Moon Kingdoms".
Um *cough* War of Kings *cough*

Savok
12-08-2008, 12:40 AM
Um *cough* War of Kings *cough*
See part of my plan is to move the entire Shi'ar empire to Earth before burning it, making sure nothing is left of them.

See the only thing left of the entire X-Ghetto (and I include that entire bird empire in it) will be Scott and Emma, and all they'll be allowed to do is snark and have sex.

Kagger
12-08-2008, 12:59 AM
On a side note, can anyone tell me what the deal with Batman is? I saw news articles about it on drudgereport and imdb, but I just have trouble believing it to be permanent.

Savok
12-08-2008, 01:06 AM
Well Batman #682 came out as well this week.

It already isn't, but Darkseid has him and they seem to be trying to copy his brain to make an army of Batmen

muddi900
12-08-2008, 01:24 AM
Batman #682 was surprisingly good. It was the usual Morrison trippy thing, but it was coherent.

Ghost Rider
12-08-2008, 05:48 AM
Kids are not buying comics because they're unreadable, convoluted mess that they can't get into. There'll always be a kid who's attracted by the art, but he will never pick up another issue if he can't get into the story.In short, they're uncool because they suck!

Once again, Comics are very easy to get into. DC and Marvel aren't.

In my experience, kids have no problem getting into Marvel comics. I still think it's bigger than DC or Marvel not doing a good enough job.

Spigot
12-08-2008, 07:24 AM
Kids aren't getting into comics because it costs $4 for a bloody 32 page comic that can be read in about 12 seconds.

Back in MY day, you could get a stack of comics for that much!

Savok
12-08-2008, 07:45 AM
That is true, prices are going up while content is going down (certainly quality in most cases... ok it's not 90s bad but it is crap).

TrackZero
12-08-2008, 07:47 AM
The issue ends with Osborne meeting with the 'Evil Illuminati':Namor, Emma Frost, Dr. Doom, Loki and The Hood.

Wait, wait. Wasn't Namor on the "Good Illuminati" as well, or am I mis-remembering that? Or did he walk out on it with the Hulk thing?

TrackZero
12-08-2008, 07:50 AM
Kids are not buying comics because they're unreadable, convoluted mess that they can't get into. There'll always be a kid who's attracted by the art, but he will never pick up another issue if he can't get into the story.In short, they're uncool because they suck!

Once again, Comics are very easy to get into. DC and Marvel aren't.

Not true, I got into comics in the mid 80s and it was still a convoluted fucking mess back then as well. Kids will read a scattering of issues and usually "grab on" to a series restart at issue #1 and work up from there filling in back story. You forget that your brain doesn't work like a childs, they'll put up with a lot of bullshit if they just like one part of it (i.e., they have no taste). It's no different today than it was back then, except for the price and art/print quality both going up.

Savok
12-08-2008, 07:59 AM
Wait, wait. Wasn't Namor on the "Good Illuminati" as well, or am I mis-remembering that? Or did he walk out on it with the Hulk thing?
Namor's been having a rough time as of late with Atlantis being blown up and all.

So rough in fact he's become a hobo...

Spigot
12-08-2008, 08:01 AM
I also think that the fact that it's much harder to just walk into the local store and buy a comic keeps kids out of buying comics. I know around my place that there really aren't any convenience stores that sell comics on the racks like they used to. That's the gateway. The fact that the nearest true comic shops are a good half hour drive or more away doesn't really facilitate getting kids into the market unless their parents are already fans.

Savok
12-08-2008, 08:10 AM
And when walk into a comic store, you're terrified of catching some horrible disease as everything is covered in a thin layer of slime...

DoctorFinger
12-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Wait, wait. Wasn't Namor on the "Good Illuminati" as well, or am I mis-remembering that? Or did he walk out on it with the Hulk thing?Yes, and Bendis said in an interview that he's the only one who's aware of the existence of both groups, and that will come into play at some point.

muddi900
12-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Since nobody's replying in the thread I made, I'll post this news here...

ABC has greenlit a Fables pilot (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/12/08/abc-greenlights-fables-television-show-pilot/)

MosBen
12-08-2008, 09:48 PM
muddi, that's great news! I'd have preferred an HBO series, not so much for swearing or sex, but because they could be a lot more whimsical as an HBO series. There wouldn't be the need to fill a full 24 episode season and it wouldn't have to be a huge hit to stay on the air. Still ABC Fables is better than no Fables at all...at least probably.

And man, a lot of hate for Marvel and DC lines this week. Maybe it's just the holiday humbugs. My feeling is that I'm never going to get "great" or "groundbreaking" books out of books connected to the larger universes of Marvel or DC. Still, I can surely get some entertaining books here and there, and most of the time that's all I'm after. Granted, I read the threads here and also am not afraid of some Wikipedia research, but I rarely find a Marvel or DC book confusing, unless it's a Morrison book.

Savok
12-08-2008, 11:04 PM
I'm conflicted on a Fables TV show.

On one hand it's good to see the best comic being published today get some kudos. On the other, Smallville.

muddi900
12-09-2008, 08:26 AM
I'm conflicted on a Fables TV show.

On one hand it's good to see the best comic being published today get some kudos. On the other, Smallville.


Eh, we'll have to wait for the actual pilot to leak on to the internet. I just hope it doesn't follow the trend of casting 90's has-beens(like BAG on Terminator and Dawson's Creek dude on Fringe).