NHL 2012-2013 Offseason and On.

[Hyperglide]

Now that the Los Angeles Kings have been crowned the 2012 Stanley Cup champs it's time to look forward to July 1st and beyond for free agency, trades, waiver wire pickups and more.

That is if there is a next season. With a lockout looming who knows how much of next season if not all of it is lost. But that's for another discussion.

[Dark Prince]

Here's a few things the Devils need to take care of immediately:

- Sign Zach Parise
- Sign Marty for one more year
- Sign Carter, Bernier, Little Gio (without our fourth line we don't make it as far as we did)
- Bring up Wedgewood as backup and split the games

I know there's a few other players that are on our UFA list that need signing and RFA as well that I don't remember off the top of my head.

[shunoshi]

Looking forward to next season already. Simple solution for the Wild to do better: Don't get injured to the point of dressing 50 players in one season. :p

[biosc1]

The Canucks season will depend on whether Luongo gets traded for anything decent.

Also, if Salo retires, we'll need a d-man to step up.

I would also like to see Kesler traded. His shenanigans on-ice (and rumoured off-ice being a douche) isn't needed around here any more. Since his hip injury, he hasn't been the same. He would look good in a Leafs jersey.

Other than that, first line is good, second is good if we get another center, third and fourth lines are good. Defense is good, plus or minus Salo.

[Khrymsyn]

Flyers should resign Richards and Carter back
lol
j/k

Biggest thing I think the Flyers need to do is solidify their defense. Once Pronger went down, it was a freaking musical chairs defense. Timonen was his normal, solid self, but wore down at the end of the season. Coburn needs to be around for a long time, and was by far the most consistent D-Man we had. Beyond that, everyone was a bit inconsistent, and in front of a goalie who's struggling to deal with the pressure Philly puts on their goalies, well, it was bound to bite in the ass eventually.

Also, resign Vorachek, Schenn, and keep JVR around. As much as I joke about the Mike Richards and Carter trades, the players we got back for them are really young and have a lot of potential. I do think if the Flyers can shore up their D, and get their goalie's head in the game, they'll be a good team for a few years.

[Hyperglide]

I really hope the Toronto Maple Leafs do not trade up in the draft unless it's for the 1st overall and Nail Yakupov. And I really hope they do not trade for Luongo. They need to move assets for a number 1C. And with the draft next week I hope we get him.

Burkes gonna make a lot of big changes this summer I can feel it.

[MalReynolds]

I really hope the Toronto Maple Leafs do not trade up in the draft unless it's for the 1st overall and Nail Yakupov. And I really hope they do not trade for Luongo. They need to move assets for a number 1C. And with the draft next week I hope we get him.

Burkes gonna make a lot of big changes this summer I can feel it.

i hope his job is on the line this year

also anyone want 2 defensemen?

[biosc1]

I really hope the Toronto Maple Leafs do not trade up in the draft unless it's for the 1st overall and Nail Yakupov. And I really hope they do not trade for Luongo. They need to move assets for a number 1C. And with the draft next week I hope we get him.

Burkes gonna make a lot of big changes this summer I can feel it.

You can have Kesler. He thinks he is a number 1 centre ;)

[Troggles]

The Sabres just need to maintain the momentum they had at the end of the season throughout a full season. This is also a great year for them to get some big contracts off the books.

Oh, and thank Nashville for that first round pick again.

[Hyperglide]

You can have Kesler. He thinks he is a number 1 centre ;)

Deal as long as you don't take Kadri, Kessel, Gardiner, Lupul and you take Komisarek back. :D

[roboninja]

Helloooooo Nail!

I really doubt the Oilers trade down; it would have to be an absolute steal, and we would not trade down too far. The only deal I can see is Gardiner+5th for the 1st, but I am pretty sure Burke would never do it.

[biosc1]

Deal as long as you don't take Kadri, Kessel, Gardiner, Lupul and you take Komisarek back. :D

Kessel would really add to our team toughness...

[Dark Prince]

i hope his job is on the line this year

also anyone want 2 defensemen?

Are they puck moving defenseman?

[Hyperglide]

Kessel would really add to our team toughness...

So would Connolly. :D

But hey at least Kessel does't bite people :cool:

[Hyperglide]

Helloooooo Nail!

I really doubt the Oilers trade down; it would have to be an absolute steal, and we would not trade down too far. The only deal I can see is Gardiner+5th for the 1st, but I am pretty sure Burke would never do it.

I would think that they would need defense more then offense. I heard rumours you were going after Ryan Murray first, amirite?? But with Tambellini running that team into the ground you never know. Maybe he thinks BPA is the way to go.

Justin Shultz is coming to the Leafs too :) He's best buds with Gardiner.

[MalReynolds]

Helloooooo Nail!

I really doubt the Oilers trade down; it would have to be an absolute steal, and we would not trade down too far. The only deal I can see is Gardiner+5th for the 1st, but I am pretty sure Burke would never do it.

someone has been saying Jordan staal and 22nd overall + for edm 1st!

[biosc1]

someone has been saying Jordan staal and 22nd overall + for edm 1st!

That doesn't even make sense...which is why it will probably happen.

Defense...that is what Edmonton needs!

[MalReynolds]

That doesn't even make sense...which is why it will probably happen.

Defense...that is what Edmonton needs!

another one was Jordan Staal and Paul Martin 22nd overall for 1st overall and Gagner

[Hyperglide]

The Senaturds... Oops, excuse me I had a grape in my mouf. Senators locked up Swedish D sensation Erik Karlsson to a 7 year $45.5 million dollar extension earlier today.

Too soon for a potential flash-in-the-pan? Or is he the real deal? Thoughts?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398747

Also somewhat significant is that the Wild locked up Josh Harding to a 3 year extension too.

More tidbits..

Teemu is coming back for one more season. The veteran winger has signed a 1 year contract to remain with the Anaheim Ducks... Not sure why the Ducks are going to be rebuilding after next season. I guess he still thinks they have the parts this last season to do something special.

There's also rumours swirling from the Ducks that winger Bobby Ryan is on the trade block yet again.

[Dark Prince]

NHL Awards are on tonight at 7 on NBC Sports if anyone's watching or cares, lol. Hoping Henrique grabs the Calder, would be nice as he's been clutch for us all playoff long up till the end.

Calder Trophy Finalists:

Adam Henrique (New Jersey)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Edmonton)
Gabriel Landeskog (Colorado)

Other finalists:

Hart Trophy (most valuable player)
1. Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh
2. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
3. Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay
Voted by PHWA

Ted Lindsay Award (most outstanding player)
1. Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh
2. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
3. Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay
Voted by members of NHL Players’ Association

Norris Trophy (best defenseman)
1. Zdeno Chara, Boston
2. Erik Karlsson, Ottawa
3. Shea Weber, Nashville
Voted by PHWA

Vezina Trophy (best goaltender)
1. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
2. Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles
3. Pekka Rinne, Nashville
Voted by NHL general managers

Selke Trophy (best defensive forward)
1. David Backes, St. Louis
2. Patrice Bergeron, Boston
3. Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit
Voted by PHWA

Lady Byng Trophy (sportsmanship/skill)
1. Brian Campbell, Florida
2. Jordan Eberle, Edmonton
3. Matt Moulson, Islanders
Voted by PHWA

Masterton Trophy (perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey)
1. Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa
2. Joffrey Lupul, Toronto
3. Max Pacioretty, Montreal
Voted by PHWA

Jack Adams Award (coach of the year)
1. Ken Hitchcock, St. Louis
2. Paul MacLean, Ottawa
3. John Tortorella, Rangers
Voted by NHL Broadcasters’ Association

General Manager of the Year
1. Doug Armstrong, St. Louis
2. David Poile, Nashville
3. Dale Tallon, Florida

NHL Foundation Player Award (community service)
1. Mike Fisher, Nashville
2. John-Michael Liles, Toronto
3. Matt Moulson, Islanders

[Hyperglide]

*snipped*
Calder Trophy Finalists:

Adam Henrique (New Jersey)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Edmonton)
Gabriel Landeskog (Colorado)

Other finalists:

Hart Trophy (most valuable player)
1. Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh
2. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
3. Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay
Voted by PHWA

Ted Lindsay Award (most outstanding player)
1. Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh
2. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
3. Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay
Voted by members of NHL Players’ Association

Norris Trophy (best defenseman)
1. Zdeno Chara, Boston
2. Erik Karlsson, Ottawa
3. Shea Weber, Nashville
Voted by PHWA

Vezina Trophy (best goaltender)
1. Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers
2. Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles
3. Pekka Rinne, Nashville
Voted by NHL general managers

Selke Trophy (best defensive forward)
1. David Backes, St. Louis
2. Patrice Bergeron, Boston
3. Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit
Voted by PHWA

Lady Byng Trophy (sportsmanship/skill)
1. Brian Campbell, Florida
2. Jordan Eberle, Edmonton
3. Matt Moulson, Islanders
Voted by PHWA

Masterton Trophy (perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey)
1. Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa
2. Joffrey Lupul, Toronto
3. Max Pacioretty, Montreal
Voted by PHWA

Jack Adams Award (coach of the year)
1. Ken Hitchcock, St. Louis
2. Paul MacLean, Ottawa
3. John Tortorella, Rangers
Voted by NHL Broadcasters’ Association

General Manager of the Year
1. Doug Armstrong, St. Louis
2. David Poile, Nashville
3. Dale Tallon, Florida

NHL Foundation Player Award (community service)
1. Mike Fisher, Nashville
2. John-Michael Liles, Toronto
3. Matt Moulson, Islanders

My winners.

[Dark Prince]

Hart Memorial Trophy, MVP - Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh

Vezina Trophy, goaltender - Henrik Lundqvist, N.Y. Rangers

James Norris Memorial Trophy, defenseman - Erik Karlsson, Ottawa

Calder Memorial Trophy, rookie - Gabriel Landeskog, Colorado

Frank J. Selke Trophy, defensive forward - Patrice Bergeron, Boston

Lady Byng Memorial Trophy, most gentlemanly - Brian Campbell, Florida

King Clancy Trophy, humanitarian contribution to hockey - Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa

Jack Adams Award, coach - Ken Hitchcock, St. Louis

Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy, perserverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey - Max Pacioretty, Montreal

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Art Ross Trophy, points scoring leader - Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh

Maurice Richard Trophy, goal-scoring leader - Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay

William M. Jennings Trophy, goalies with fewest goals against, minimum 25 games - Brian Elliott and Jaroslav Halak, St. Louis

Conn Smythe Trophy, MVP in Stanley Cup Playoffs - Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles

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Ted Lindsay Award, outstanding player - Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh

(Formerly called the Lester B. Pearson Award)

^ Above are the winners from last night. Source (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635385)

[Dark Prince]

NHL 2012 Draft is tonight in Pittsburgh. Anyone watching?

I'm curoius to see what happens with the Oilers and who they get after winning the lottery for the no. 1 pick. The Devils have a pick at no. 29 and didn't give up their pick this year from the penalty for the Kovy contract and still have 2 years to give it up.

[Hyperglide]

NHL 2012 Draft is tonight in Pittsburgh. Anyone watching?

I'm curoius to see what happens with the Oilers and who they get after winning the lottery for the no. 1 pick. The Devils have a pick at no. 29 and didn't give up their pick this year from the penalty for the Kovy contract and still have 2 years to give it up.

I'm watching. I'm hoping the Leafs take either 1. Alex Galchenyuk 2. Filip Forsberg 3. Mikhail Grigorenko in that order.

Really hope they don't trade the pick, unless it's trade up to #1 to get Nail.

[biosc1]

What what? Thomas no-trade clause waived - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398993

[Dark Prince]

I'm watching. I'm hoping the Leafs take either 1. Alex Galchenyuk 2. Filip Forsberg 3. Mikhail Grigorenko in that order.

Really hope they don't trade the pick, unless it's trade up to #1 to get Nail.

He wouldn't happen to be related to Peter would he?

[Hyperglide]

He wouldn't happen to be related to Peter would he?

No relation.

[Dark Prince]

No relation.

Ah, damn. That would've been pretty sweet if he was. Hopefully the Leafs get someone to boost their lineup.

What what? Thomas no-trade clause waived - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398993

Crazy! Wonder which team is interested in him?

[Hyperglide]

Fuck Burke I"m done with this team. Reilly really? I know he can be the stud of the draft but he's also had a blown ACL already. C'mon now. Forsberg is going to be a stud in this league and the Leafs need forwards and you take ANOTHER defensemen? The one thing that we have tons of prospects in? Ugh... I hope a trade is coming soon. Really disgusted atm.

[Dark Prince]

Fuck Burke I"m done with this team. Reilly really? I know he can be the stud of the draft but he's also had a blown ACL already. C'mon now. Forsberg is going to be a stud in this league and the Leafs need forwards and you take ANOTHER defensemen? The one thing that we have tons of prospects in? Ugh... I hope a trade is coming soon. Really disgusted atm.

Wow, really?

After the way this season ended for them I'm surprised they aren't going after forwards left and right.

[MalReynolds]

The Pittsburgh Penguins traded centre Jordan Staal to the Hurricanes on Friday for centre Brandon Sutter, the No. 8 pick in 2012 draft and defenceman Brian Dumoulin.

Penguins drafted Derrick Pouliot


also a rumor going around that Penguins are after Zack Parise

[Dark Prince]

Penguins drafted Derrick Pouliot


also a rumor going around that Penguins are after Zack Parise

Oh lord, these news bits about teams going after Parise will be driving me crazy until something is officially done.

[Hyperglide]

LOL omg this draft is awesome. PK Subban and the Habs vs. Bruins and Malcolm Subban is going to be legendary.

Also Jordan Staal and Eric Staal becoming teammates, wow!

[Dark Prince]

Holy irony batman. Devils select Stefan Matteau.

[Hyperglide]

Ya Prince definitely New Jersey and Boston won the 1st round for troll picks lol. Epic.

[Dark Prince]

Ya Prince definitely New Jersey and Boston won the 1st round for troll picks lol. Epic.

No kidding, Uncle Lou commented jokingly saying that he might not let his dad in the building to watch him play, lmao!

[roboninja]

Fuck Burke I"m done with this team. Reilly really? I know he can be the stud of the draft but he's also had a blown ACL already. C'mon now. Forsberg is going to be a stud in this league and the Leafs need forwards and you take ANOTHER defensemen? The one thing that we have tons of prospects in? Ugh... I hope a trade is coming soon. Really disgusted atm.

Wow, really?

After the way this season ended for them I'm surprised they aren't going after forwards left and right.

It's funny, the Leafs had a defense that was worse than the Oilers' by a decent margin, but the narrative was that Edmonton needed defense, the Leafs offense.

Burke has said that Reilly was his guy even if he had the #1 overall pick.

[Hyperglide]

It's funny, the Leafs had a defense that was worse than the Oilers' by a decent margin, but the narrative was that Edmonton needed defense, the Leafs offense.

Burke has said that Reilly was his guy even if he had the #1 overall pick.

Dude quit trolling. Who on the Leafs would you take from the forward position besides Kessel and maybe Lupul and Grabovski?

Leafs have a TON of defensive prospects in the AHL and others ready for the jump to the NHL like Korbinian Holzer, and soon to be Jesse Blacker and Stuart Percy. That's not even including the prospects we have in junior still.

Plus the Leafs defense sucked last year cause they had no mobility (which we are addressing) and probably the worst defensive coach in the entire league (Wilson, remember him? Oh ya he got shitcanned) plus the penalty killing sucked and our goaltending was terribad.

Should I remind you that Gustavsson just got traded for a conditional 7th round pick? That should tell you how bad our goaltending has been. Plus Reimer was injured for half the season. I'm not your typical Leafs fan saying he's a saviour but when your starting goalie is out and you have to rely on shitty coaching, shitty goaltending and a penalty kill that was horrible of course our defense is gonna look like shit.

At least the management with the Leafs is trying doing something to address the problem. WTF are the Oilers doing? Resigning that POS GM Tambellini, keeping older then bones way past their prime goalies like Khabibulin whose been carrying a team of kids. And oh ya 3 1st overall picks in a row. Look what that's gotten them.

I'm sick of some of you posters trolling me all the time. Get off your fuckin' high horses.

[Hyperglide]

Well this is something. Maple Leafs D Luke Schenn traded for Flyers F James Van Riemsdyk.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399090

I guess it's a good trade for both sides. I wasn't a huge Schenn fan but I feel like the Leafs could've gotten more.

I guess this opens the way to the Leafs snatching up Justin Schultz from Anaheim as rumoured.

Flyers think now they can be in the hunt for Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan with this move.

[MalReynolds]

Well this is something. Maple Leafs D Luke Schenn traded for Flyers F James Van Riemsdyk.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399090

I guess it's a good trade for both sides. I wasn't a huge Schenn fan but I feel like the Leafs could've gotten more.

I guess this opens the way to the Leafs snatching up Justin Schultz from Anaheim as rumoured.

Flyers think now they can be in the hunt for Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan with this move.

also puts the Schenn brothers together...

[Khrymsyn]

Leafs got a player with a lot of potential in that trade. When JVR's head is in the right place, he can be a dominant player. He just still hasn't figured out he's a big guy and often "plays small" like a more finesse style player. Maybe the change of scenery will do him good. Always seemed like a good kid in interviews and stuff at least.

[MalReynolds]

as long as the penguins get Parise ill be happy

[Hyperglide]

also puts the Schenn brothers together...

Weekend of brotherly reunions with Staals and Schenns tag teamming up.

[MalReynolds]

Ondrej Pavelec's new deal in WPG is 5 yrs, with annual cap hit of $3.9M.

from Bob Mckenzie

[roboninja]

Good signing for the Jets.

And Hyper? That rant was hilarious.

[Hyperglide]

from Bob Mckenzie

So I guess Gustavsson and Pavelec next season? Not sure why they traded for Gus' rights only to sign Pavelec a couple of days later.

Also minor notes from earlier in the week.

Kings resigned a couple of centers from their cup winning team.

Name Pos. Team 2011 Team Contract Years Avg. per year
Fraser, Colin C Los Angeles Los Angeles $1.75M n/a n/a
Stoll, Jarret C Los Angeles Los Angeles $9.75M 3 $3.25M

[Primus]

A little late, been busy all weekend, but how the FUCK did we end up getting Forsberg!? GO CAPS!

[Dark Prince]

A little late, been busy all weekend, but how the FUCK did we end up getting Forsberg!? GO CAPS!

Nice, I was wondering who got Forsberg as I got into the draft late when I started watching. He's going to be a good asset.

[MalReynolds]

Penguins stock piling D-man

[Dark Prince]

Adam Oates is officially the head coach of Washington. Heh, have fun with him Primus, he didn't really help our PP much.

[biosc1]

Oates? Is he even head coach material? Or will he just be another Gretzky?

[Hyperglide]

Congrats to Mats Sundin!!

Oh and Adam Oates, Joe Sakic, and Pavel Bure. Kinda cool Oates gets inducted and a new Head Coaching job on the same day.

These 4 outstanding players were inducted into the HHoF earlier today. More here:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399298

[MalReynolds]

Graeme Roustan will appear before Markham, Ont., Council Wed nite, seeking to get site plan approval for new 18K-seat arena.

interesting indeed

[Dark Prince]

Congrats to Mats Sundin!!

Oh and Adam Oates, Joe Sakic, and Pavel Bure. Kinda cool Oates gets inducted and a new Head Coaching job on the same day.

These 4 outstanding players were inducted into the HHoF earlier today. More here:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399298

Not a bad class this year. Kind of interesting that Shanahan got snubbed.

[roboninja]

Not a bad class this year. Kind of interesting that Shanahan got snubbed.

Wiuth a class this good, you cannot even really consider it a snub. Who would he bump off that list?

[Dark Prince]

With a class this good, you cannot even really consider it a snub. Who would he bump off that list?

Fair enough. Looks like Shanny will have to wait till next year.

[MalReynolds]

Rumor going around is that the New Jersey Devils are close to bankruptcy in which the NHL will take over the franchise and supposely the first person out will be Kovy

[Dark Prince]

Rumor going around is that the New Jersey Devils are close to bankruptcy in which the NHL will take over the franchise and supposedly the first person out will be Kovy

Where'd you hear that? The last thing I heard was that Vanderbeak had someone close to lined up (http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2012/05/devils_jeff_vanderbeek_close_t.html) to buy the majority share and was going to let him keep ownership.

[MalReynolds]

After seeing it on a few Sites but its never been conformed

[Dark Prince]

After seeing it on a few Sites but its never been conformed

Ah ok. You had me worried for a bit there.

[MalReynolds]

Ah ok. You had me worried for a bit there.
The full rumor was that if they resign Zach Parise they will trade Kovalchuk to make the team look more attractive to people who would want invest/buy the team

[Dark Prince]

The full rumor was that if they resign Zach Parise they will trade Kovalchuk to make the team look more attractive to people who would want invest/buy the team

Wow really? I doubt they'd move Kovy. I think he has an NMC in his contract that would prevent that. I think they have enough room to sign Zach for a decent contract, nothing unlike the drama that Kovy's contract went through.

[Hyperglide]

I hope there are no Flames fans on this board. If so I feel sorry for you. If I were a flames fan I'd want Jay Feaster on the first plane outta Calgary. Wtf was he thinking? Trading a 5th and a prospect for the 4 extra days to offer Dennis Wideman a 5 year contract at $5.25 per season? Yup 5 years/$26.5 million dollars. He'll be 34 when the contract is up.

Jason Garrison must be licking his chops right now come July 1st.

[biosc1]

Crosby expected to sign 12 year deal for $104 million - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399432

[MalReynolds]

Cap hit is the same as his cap hit now! good deal


Edit: IF he says healthy

edit 2: The league and NHL Players' Association announced the cap would increase from US$64.3 million to $70.2 million.

another 5.9 million to work with

[MalReynolds]

Jonathan Quick agreed to terms on a 10-year contract extension with the Los Angeles Kings on Thursday.

The Tennessean is reporting defenseman Hal Gill has re-signed with the Nashville Predators, agreeing to a two-year, $4 million contract.

TSN is reporting impending restricted free agent Tuukka Rask and the Boston Bruins have agreed on a one-year, $3.5 million contract.

few crazy signing today

[Hyperglide]

Ya that Quick signing is crazy. I like the cap hit but the term is insane. I would never sign anyone past 5 years. Too many variables to be locked into a decade long contract at a cap hit like that.

[roboninja]

Look for the new CBA to limit contract terms. I say 5 years for a UFA on a new team, and 7 years for re-signing with your current team. Gives some extra incentive to stay.

[MalReynolds]

i never seen the money per year for the Quick deal

[roboninja]

I don't think the Quick contract details have leaked yet.

[Hyperglide]

I heard rumours the Quick deal is $58 million.

[MalReynolds]

5.8 isnt bad ... not great but not bad

[Hyperglide]

5.8 isnt bad ... not great but not bad

My source was 'The Score's Facebook page. But the link included in the Facebook update didn't have the figures to confirm. So again it could be an inaccurate report but 'The Score' is a pretty big network in Canada. Take it for what it's worth.

I think it's a good value for a young hot goalie entering his prime and coming off a Conn Smythe and Stanley Cup final.

This ain't no Dipietro signing.

[Hyperglide]

Now that Quick has been signed Jonathan Bernier is demanding a trade, according to sources close to the LA Kings.

https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/218442363629076482

[MalReynolds]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
There's talk, none of it official, Price deal will be 6 or 7 yrs long with cap hit north of $6M, perhaps in the range of $6.5M. We'll see.

crazy deals continues maybe?

[Hyperglide]

crazy deals continues maybe?

Holy shiznit. Well that's at least a bit better. 6/7 years of Price at 6 mill per cap I could handle. Especially with the cap going up.

Dominoes..

I love this time of year for NBA and NHL. So much trading, FA frenziness, and the draft.

[MalReynolds]

crosbys isnt bad if he stays health

[MalReynolds]

Goaltender Cory Schneider has agreed in principle to a three-year, $12 million deal with the Vancouver Canucks.

guess Lou is GONE

[Primus]

Adam Oates is officially the head coach of Washington. Heh, have fun with him Primus, he didn't really help our PP much.

Yeah I am looking at his time with TB and NJ and I dunno what to think!

[shunoshi]

guess Lou is GONE

Yeah, had to see that one coming after his performance in the playoffs and Schneider taking over.

[biosc1]

Yeah, had to see that one coming after his performance in the playoffs and Schneider taking over.

Lou actually played well in the playoffs. The games were always close. Sure he lost the games, but only because the team in front of him couldn't score.

Here's hoping that Loungo at least gets traded for some scoring.

[MalReynolds]

The Pittsburgh Penguins have re-signed defenseman Matt Niskanen to a two-year contract, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Ray Shero

Not a bad deal he was really good last year

[Dark Prince]

So, Marty has hired his own agent after going so many years representing himself and is willing to test the FA market in case things don't work out with the Lou and the Devils.

I'm a bit worried he'll be getting offers from practically half the league going after him. I hope they get a deal done soon as it would be painful to see him wear another uniform. With the cap increase we should have enough room for him and Parise under decent contracts and not go crazy with other UFA's we have left. Going to be an interesting Sunday to watch the news outlets.

[Hyperglide]

Colby Armstrong of the Toronto Maple Leafs was put on unconditional waivers today. If he is not picked up by July 1st he will be bought out the final year of his contract of $3 million. It will save the Toronto maple Leafs $2 million in cap space this season and give them $14.8 in available space.

He was a class act but thank god one of those ungodly contracts is no longer on the Leafs payroll. As soon as he came here from Pittsburgh he became glass. He was always injured. Class act though. Hope he turns his career around.

More here: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399599

Highly touted UFA Defenseman Justin Schultz is also expected to announce the team he is going to today. His short list is 5 teams but the front runners known currently is the Ottawa Senators and Edmonton Oilers according to a source from the St. Louis radio sports report Andy Strickland.

This just in on the Justin Schultz-recruit-a-thon, incoming tweet from radio sports reporter Andy Strickland of St. Louis, who tweets: “Word is #Oilers and #Sens are final two teams for Justin Schultz.” Stickland later added:

“A 3rd team also makes final cut for Justin Schultz… told he still hasn't made decision. one is expected mid afternoon as already reported.”

Steve Zipay, a beat writer for Newsday, adds: “Hearing Wisconsin prospect Justin Schultz , having heard pitches from six NHL teams, could take offer from Rangers today.”

This is followed up by ESPN’s John Buccigross tweeting: “Could be some big NHL news today. Stay tuned NY Rangers fans.”

Continued: http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...ty-much-zilch/

[Hyperglide]

So, Marty has hired his own agent after going so many years representing himself and is willing to test the FA market in case things don't work out with the Lou and the Devils.

I'm a bit worried he'll be getting offers from practically half the league going after him. I hope they get a deal done soon as it would be painful to see him wear another uniform. With the cap increase we should have enough room for him and Parise under decent contracts and not go crazy with other UFA's we have left. Going to be an interesting Sunday to watch the news outlets.

It's probably just posturing. Or maybe the ownership situation is worse there then at first realized? Would be weird to see Marty in any other jersey then a Devils Jersey. My money (no pun intended) is that he's probably just putting pressure on Lou to get more money then Lou is offering with some low-ball offer or only a 1 year term at this point. Maybe Marty wants a 2 year contract?

[Dark Prince]

It's probably just posturing. Or maybe the ownership situation is worse there then at first realized? Would be weird to see Marty in any other jersey then a Devils Jersey. My money (no pun intended) is that he's probably just putting pressure on Lou to get more money then Lou is offering with some low-ball offer or only a 1 year term at this point. Maybe Marty wants a 2 year contract?

That would be my guess. I wouldn't mind if he held another 2 years with us and then hung up the pads. Would give him time to tutor one of the prospects in the system if they don't sign Moose as back up again.

Although he could be waiting to see what happens with Zach.

[Hyperglide]

Schultz went to Edmonton. Ugh...

[MalReynolds]

thats it he'll be there for 2 years and then bolt for more money

[MalReynolds]

SPORTINGNEWS.COM: Sean Gentille reports the Penguins are expected to offer Parise a ten-year deal worth between $75-$80 million.

think Jersey could match?

[Dark Prince]

With what we're paying Kovy I think we have a good chance. If there was any doubt about Zachary signing with us because of financial issues he wouldn't need to wait to make his decision which is what he's doing this morning before the market opens. Been waiting since 10 am and nothing yet.

[MalReynolds]

Hearing clemmenson re-signs with @panthers for 2yrs. In the 1.2 million per range

Good signing in my option

RT @HurricanesGM: I'm very pleased we'll be announcing shortly that Jordan Staal has committed to make his home in Carolina for a long time.

No details but good for him

edit: and its done
Jordan Staal agrees to terms with CAR. 10 years, $60M. Done.

[MalReynolds]

The Lightning have re-signed D Evan Oberg to a one-year, two-way contract.

No clue who he is or anything but its still a signing lol

Ryan Smyth agrees to 2 year deal with Oilers. $2.25 per year.

Great deal they need the vets!

[MalReynolds]

Crosby #'s starting to surface. The first 3 years are at $12M. He will make close but below $11M AAV the first 9 years of 12 year deal.


insane insane and insane

[Dark Prince]

insane insane and insane

That is insane. Although, he needs to stay healthy first for it to be worth it. From what I'm hearing he's been on and off the ice from his concussion.

Looks like Brodeur and Parise will be testing the market. Hoping they don't see their value anywhere else but the Devils.

[MalReynolds]

The Oilers haved re-signed Yann Danis to a 1 year deal.

another deal done

[MalReynolds]

Lightning signed Benoit Pouliot. 1 year / 1.8 Million

Another good signing

Hearing the #Flyers have signed Michael Leighton to a one-year, $900K contract. Bryzgalov's backup?

Brett Sutter 550K/105 with a guarantee of 150K with Carolina Hurricanes

Former #redwings D Derek Meech resigns with #jets.

[MalReynolds]

shunoshi could be happy

From the Wild war room: the #mnwild have submitted contract offers to free agents Zach Parise and Ryan Suter.

Per @maydayhockey Jonas Gustafsson to the Wings. 2 year deal.

Flames re-sign Moss

Looks like this one was wrong its PHX

Panthers agree to one-year, two-way contracts with C Greg Rallo and G Dov Grumet-Morris

[MalReynolds]

From the Kings war room: the #LAKings have talked about submitting contract offers to free agents.

looks like people are going nuts

John Mitchell expected to sign 2 year deal with Colorado.

Updated: Col also get Matt Carkner (Avs are saying yes, Agent saying nothing is done)
update 2: Matt Carkner 3 yrs to Isles

Flyers have made offers to both Suter and Parise as well

Canes agree to terms w goaltender Justin Peters on a two-year contract

Rutherford says Corvo signed to 1-year deal

OTT signs Mike Lundin, 1 year, $1.15M. NYR re-up with Stu Bickel, 2 yrs, $750K per year

Konopka agrees to 2 year contract with Minnesota Wild.

Netminder Jeff Zatkoff agrees to two-year, two-way deal with PIT. $525K in NHL/105K in the minors.

#NHL *News*-- Chris Kelly finally signs his contract with the #Bruins. 4yrs/$12M.

3 years x $1.9 mil per for Torrey Mitchell in Minnesota.

$1.2 million plus bonuses for Latendresse in Ottawa

Colby Armstrong going to Montreal

Ray Whitney agreed to terms w/ Dallas Stars at $9 million over 2 years. It is $4 million salary and $500000 in bonuses each year.

Brad Staubitz signs for two years with ANA.

Burrish to Stars 4 years

Edit: Not a Star a Shark sorry bad info it seems

[MalReynolds]

#Pens have re-signed forward Steve MacIntyre to a 2-year, 2-way contract.

good AHL signing and thats about it

Andre Benoit to Ottawa Senators , 1 year 650K

#isles sign Brad Boyes to 1-year, $1 million deal.

Riley Holzapfel agreed to terms with Pittsburgh. 1 year deal.

#CBJ sign goalie Curtis McElhinney.

Arron Asham has just signed with the New York Rangers. Details coming.

#Pens have signed forward Tanner Glass to a two-year deal. Details to come.
NOW THIS WAS A TERRIABLE SIGNING ugh

Filip Kuba to return to the team that drafted him. Has agreed to 2 year deal with Florida Panthers. $8M

[roboninja]

Glad Schultz chose EDM. The Smyth deal is just right too.

[MalReynolds]

Souray to Anaheim

done supposedly

Ottawa trades Foligno to Blue Jackets for Methot is confirmed

Penner has re-signed in LA... one year, north of $3 M

#Coyotes have signed G Chad Johnson to a 1-year, 2-way contract. Went 22-18-6, with 2.49 GAA & .919 SV% in 49 games with Connecticut Whale.

Kris Newbury back to NYR on a 2 year, two-way deal.

Francis Bouillon signs in MTL for one year, $1.5M.

Canadiens Sign Prust
I kinda wanted the penguins to go fore him but id say they are busy with two other players

#NYR Rangers have signed former #Isles tough guy Micheal Haley to two-year deal


Zanon joins Avalanche.

#Blackhawks have agreed to terms with defenseman Sheldon Brookbank on a two-year contract.

Alexei Ponikarovsky to WPG, 1 year, $1.8M.
This reunites him with an old teammate in Nik Antropov

#FlaPanthers have signed RW George Parros to a two-year contract

[Hyperglide]

Damnit I wanted the Leafs to grab Prust and Moen. Fuck the Habs.

[MalReynolds]

P.A. Parenteau to COL, 4 yrs, $16M total.

Good deal for a GUY who can put up 70+

Islanders sign Boulton

Chris Mason…to Preds done

[Hyperglide]

Cool to see Gustavsson and Armstrong go to rivals. Gonna love kicking their asses next season.

[MalReynolds]

adrian aucoin to cbj for 1 year. #tsn

TOR signs Jay McClement to to 2 year deal worth $3M.

#Pens sign Upper St. Clair native Dylan Reese to 1-year, 2-way deal.

Sammy Salo signed a two year deal with Tampa for $3.75m per year.v

to short damn u

Bryan Allen gets three years at $3.5M per year from ANA.

LEAFS SIGN FRATTIN, HAMILTON AND RYNNAS
Hamilton 2-way deal with Toronto. $600,000 (NHL) $140,000(AHL). Rynnas 2-way as well.

[Hyperglide]

You're to fast Mal damnit lol... Good signing for the Leafs. We finally got our #1C!

[MalReynolds]

Also Sutter and Parise deals should come tomorrow both are looking over deals and have narrowed them down to a few teams...

[Hyperglide]

Also Sutter and Parise deals should come tomorrow both are looking over deals and have narrowed them down to a few teams...

I heard we find out Parises shortlist tonight and Suters tomorrow too. Also I heard that Carolina is not on the shortlist. A Staal-Staal-Parise line would've been scary though.

[Dualonymous]

Mal, are you on a site with a stream of all this or are you individually following every team? if it is a site what is it?

[Primus]

Wow, TSN tore apart Semin.

[Hyperglide]

Mal, are you on a site with a stream of all this or are you individually following every team? if it is a site what is it?

Follow Darren Dreger and Bob Mackenzie from TSN, if you have twitter. They usually get tweets out really fast. Nick Kypreos as well.

I get all my news from HFBoards though. I hate twitter.

[Dualonymous]

Follow Darren Dreger and Bob Mackenzie from TSN, if you have twitter. They usually get tweets out really fast. Nick Kypreos as well.

I get all my news from HFBoards though. I hate twitter.

Thanks.

tooshort

[MalReynolds]

Yah i was on Twitter following it as it was going on

[MalReynolds]

Garrison is 6 yrs @ 4.6M per year.

at least they didnt offer him 6-7 million for one good season but could still be a bust

[Dark Prince]

I heard we find out Parises shortlist tonight and Suters tomorrow too. Also I heard that Carolina is not on the shortlist. A Staal-Staal-Parise line would've been scary though.

Parise says he's not at liberty to discuss what teams his shortlist is. Apparently we offered him a "very competitive" offer that I hope is a deal he couldn't refuse.

Marty has fielded offers from Toronto, Chicago and I think one other team but I saw a quote from Leafs GM that said Brodeur is more interested in staying with the Devils which is very good news. :cool:

Only loss we encountered today was loosing Ponikaravsky to the Jets, which isn't too bad we got to go to a younger core especially once Josefson comes back.

[MalReynolds]

Veteran goaltender Martin Brodeur is staying with the only NHL franchise he's ever played for. After hiring agent Pat Brisson and testing Sunday's free agent market, Brodeur signed a two-year, $9 million contract to stay with the New Jersey Devils, according to RDS.



not to say im suprised but Marty isnt going anywhere

Would have been weird to see him in any other "Jersey"

Radulov has signed a 4-year deal with CSKA

[Dark Prince]

not to say im suprised but Marty isnt going anywhere

Would have been weird to see him in any other "Jersey"

Which is great news. Means he's going to finish his career here.

Just got to get Parise signed now.

[MalReynolds]

i want Parise on the penguins sooooo bad

[Dark Prince]

i want Parise on the penguins sooooo bad

No you don't. You really don't :p

[MalReynolds]

No you don't. You really don't :p

LIES we do you can have Martin back tho :P


also

Hedberg agrees to 2 year deal with Devils. Includes full no-trade clause.

[roboninja]

So the Devils have their goal-tending tandem back for 2 more years. I am glad that Marty stayed with the Devils, even though all the Internet chatter about him "ruining his legacy" was entertainingly hilarious.

Garrison is a huge risk for the Canucks, IMO. He flashed some offense when he got to play the PP with Campbell, but tailed off later in the year. Will be interesting to see how he does in the new system.

[MalReynolds]

think they overpaid for a guy with one good year

[Dark Prince]

LIES we do you can have Martin back tho :P


also

:P I'll take Martin back, he would be a great/better partner with Larsson.

Gotta love having our goal tandem back!

80 year old goaltending FTW! Lmao.

[MalReynolds]

if you want bad Defense all we want is a pick

[biosc1]

Garrison is a huge risk for the Canucks, IMO. He flashed some offense when he got to play the PP with Campbell, but tailed off later in the year. Will be interesting to see how he does in the new system.


What...the....eff...was my initial reaction. That is an extremely pricey defenseman.

Sure, he has good numbers considering he was with Florida, but is he a top 2 defenseman? At that price he should be, but he will not be.

Just like Ballard before him, I have a feeling we'll see a d-man entering a new situation where he isn't the top 2 d-man (or even top 3) and the performance levels may drop because he isn't logging the same minutes.

Big fish, small pond => small fish, big pond.

Edit: Just saw that Salo went to Tampa Bay. That's too bad. I had thought he was going to retire. Well, I suppose TB is like retirement...

[Hyperglide]

If the Penguins get Parise and the Red Wings get Suter I'll be pissed.

[Hyperglide]

think they overpaid for a guy with one good year

Considering Wideman just got $5.25 mill. a season it's a steal. I think $4.6 mill. for a guy who scored better and is a better defenseman then Wideman is a pretty good deal. It was probably better for Garrison too cause he got a longer term then if he signed somewhere for $6 mill. AAV at say 3-4 years..

I thought some chump would offer him $6 mill a season and he'd go there. And I'm sure it was probably on the table somewhere too. But, I heard he took a hometown discount to go to Vancouver.

In other words I'd rather have Garrison then Wideman at this stage of their careers and their contracts.

[Doogie2K]

What...the....eff...was my initial reaction. That is an extremely pricey defenseman.

Sure, he has good numbers considering he was with Florida, but is he a top 2 defenseman? At that price he should be, but he will not be.

I dunno that I'd be expecting his offence to continue - I think a lot of that was Brian Campbell and an early-season shooting-percentage blitz - but the last two years, he's been on the top pairing and done very well for himself. Granted, it's the SE, but it's not like the NW outside Vancouver is really better at this point, so I think he'll be fine defensively.

Me, I'm happy with the Smyth signing: it's a good price for the role he's going to take, and it's going to be an important one for the next two years as the glut of kids continues to adapt to the NHL game. His scoring touch isn't what it once was, but he's still an effective two-way forward. Plus, he's home; he's where he belongs. Actually, in general, I'm super happy with the Oilers' last couple of weeks: they got the right guy at the draft, they let Barker walk, they got Schultz, they kept Smyth. My only real complaint is re-signing Darcy Hordichuk, who contributes nothing of value. Makes me wonder how much influence Craig MacTavish is having on hockey operations these days.

I have concerns about the pair of two-year, $9M contracts given to 40-year-olds, in Ray Whitney (DAL) and Martin Brodeur (NJD). Old guys tend to fall off pretty fast (playoffs aside, Brodeur's been sub-par already for the last two years), and the last thing you want is a 41-year-old who's done and stuck on your cap for an extra year with the 35+ rule. But hey, good for both of them getting guaranteed money, and I'm glad it wasn't my team. ;)

And finally, Montreal. You had me with Colby Armstrong for $1M: that's a decent gamble for a bottom-sixer with injury problems who could prove to be a minor value singing. You lost me at Brandon Prust for $2.5M. I'm not a big fan of one-dimensional goons, but Prust has shown in the past he's better at hockey than most goons, so I don't have a problem with signing him. The problem is, they gave him double what he's worth. This is a guy who will be playing a bottom-six role, no matter how you slice it: you can't be giving a third-line winger that much money, especially for the amount of production you're going to get. And I can't accept the premise of "protecting the stars," because it's been shown over and over again that that doesn't work. (Check out who was on the ice when Marc Savard got Cooked.) Just a brutally bad deal by the Habs, one of the worst of the day.

[Hyperglide]

*snipped*

And finally, Montreal. You had me with Colby Armstrong for $1M: that's a decent gamble for a bottom-sixer with injury problems who could prove to be a minor value singing. You lost me at Brandon Prust for $2.5M. I'm not a big fan of one-dimensional goons, but Prust has shown in the past he's better at hockey than most goons, so I don't have a problem with signing him. The problem is, they gave him double what he's worth. This is a guy who will be playing a bottom-six role, no matter how you slice it: you can't be giving a third-line winger that much money, especially for the amount of production you're going to get. And I can't accept the premise of "protecting the stars," because it's been shown over and over again that that doesn't work. (Check out who was on the ice when Marc Savard got Cooked.) Just a brutally bad deal by the Habs, one of the worst of the day.

Paying a guy $1 million dollars to be injured, sitting in the pressbox or be invisible on the ice, is a negative value signing. I'm sorry I liked Colby as a person and he seemed really funny in his interviews and a class act but he's a plug. Leafs are paying him $2 million total the next 2 years to GTFO.

Agree on the Prust deal too. Overpaid for a 4th line tough guy with a bit of offensive upside.

[Doogie2K]

Paying a guy $1 million dollars to be injured, sitting in the pressbox or be invisible on the ice, is a negative value signing. I'm sorry I liked Colby as a person and he seemed really funny in his interviews and a class act but he's a plug. Leafs are paying him $2 million total the next 2 years to GTFO.

Agree on the Prust deal too. Overpaid for a 4th line tough guy with a bit of offensive upside.

No doubt it's a gamble. But to me, you're gambling that, if the guy's healthy, he can contribute in excess of his salary. Granted, probably not by a lot, but at $1M and one year, if the gamble fails, you haven't lost a ton. (Certainly not as much as if you'd risked, say, $3M for three years. ;)) Everyone's gotta take a few gambles, and I can respect a low-risk, medium-return gamble like that.

[Hyperglide]

No doubt it's a gamble. But to me, you're gambling that, if the guy's healthy, he can contribute in excess of his salary. Granted, probably not by a lot, but at $1M and one year, if the gamble fails, you haven't lost a ton. (Certainly not as much as if you'd risked, say, $3M for three years. ;)) Everyone's gotta take a few gambles, and I can respect a low-risk, medium-return gamble like that.

It was one of Burkes albatross contracts he had to get rid of. LACK (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, Komisarek). He made a bad UFA signing when he did that. If I was the GM of the Leafs it wouldn't have happened but what can we do? We aren't the GM as fans. I didn't like the signing from day one.

In comparison to the Habs he was our own mini Scott Gomez 2.0. Overpriced, always injured and didn't execute or produce on the ice. I wish him well though but I don't want him to succeed cause he went to the Leafs #1 rival. Big mistake. Can't wait to see Phaneuf level him and break his entire body in one hit.

Gonna play devils advocate here and say at least Burke saved a bit of money buy moving him now on this years cap space and owned up to one of his few mistakes. No GM is perfect. Then replaced him with a superior upgrade in McClement at a better deal and a hometown boy who will play his ass off for the Leafs.

[Hyperglide]

Jeff Woywitka moves on from NYR to the Blues. More below:

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=636970

[Dark Prince]

if you want bad Defense all we want is a pick

I'm sure Robinson wouldn't mind getting his feet wet to get his hands on him to turn his bad defense around. I'll give you one of the penalty picks we have to give up from Kovy's contract. ;)

[MalReynolds]

Flames sign hudler

[Hyperglide]

F Eric Boulton has bolted from the New Jersey Devils to go play on Long Island:

More:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=10413

Deal is reportedly 1 year and $550K.

EDIT: Mal already posted it last page. Oops. Well details on the contract and more are above anyways..

[Dark Prince]

F Eric Boulton has bolted from the New Jersey Devils to go play on Long Island:

More:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=10413

Deal is reportedly 1 year and $550K.

EDIT: Mal already posted it last page. Oops. Well details on the contract and more are above anyways..

Yea, when we signed Janssen I don't think it would've been necessary to sign Boulton since he wouldn't have been able to do much and we could use the roster spot for someone else. Plus I don't think Lou vested much interest in signing him since they were planning on buying out his contract.

EDIT: Supposedly I see on Twitter Parise is scheduled to talk to the media in a few minutes. Could he be announcing a decision that he will make a decision in the near future?

EDIT#2: I was right according to @TGfireandice (https://twitter.com/TGfireandice/status/219898622811176960): Parise just trolled the media

[MalReynolds]

yep... im sick of waiting but its a big decision

Parise's agent, Wade Arnott: "We have thoroughly deliberated every option with Zach......"He wishes to take some time to step back and review all with his fiance and his family. We could be drawing closer to a decision."

[shunoshi]

Yeah, Parise made the decision that he's not making his decision yet. :p

No word on Suter yet either. The suspense is killing me.

[MalReynolds]

the quote doesnt sound like hes staying in NJ

per the Habs…Carey Price Signs 6 year extension in Montreal.

$6.5 M AAV

[Serapth]

Hudler for 4/4 is reasonable. The Wideman signing is still a bit baffling, but compared to other numbers I'm seeing, reasonable this year....

[MalReynolds]

BREAKING: The Dallas Stars have acquired center Derek Roy from Buffalo in exchange for Steve Ott and Adam Pardy.
damn i wouldnt mind having Ott on the penguins

[Dark Prince]

the quote doesn't sound like hes staying in NJ


I've seen on twitter he's said that the Devils are still very much in the mix and they've offered a "very competitive offer". So I still have high hopes he'll stay.

[MalReynolds]

i would rather him stay then go to the flyers

[Hyperglide]

damn i wouldnt mind having Ott on the penguins

I agree Ott was one of my few players on my FA hit list this year with Parros, Prust, Moen, McClement and Konopka.

[Hyperglide]

i would rather him stay then go to the flyers

I think he's seriously considering the Wild in fact. I have a wierd feeling he goes there.

[Dark Prince]

I think he's seriously considering the Wild in fact. I have a wierd feeling he goes there.

I really hope not. I don't want to have to keep my #9 jersey stored away.

[MalReynolds]

#NHL news. Hearing soon to be former #Flames Olli Jokinen and Winnipeg #Jets closing in on a multi year deal.

no clue why they'd want him

Edit: i wasnt fast enough

2 year deal, $9mil for Jokinen in Wpg. $4.5 aav

[MalReynolds]

I really hope not. I don't want to have to keep my #9 jersey stored away.

Also the rumor is it down to Pittburgh, NJ and Chicago

[Serapth]

no clue why they'd want him

Edit: i wasnt fast enough

2 year deal, $9mil for Jokinen in Wpg. $4.5 aav

Other than his curse, in today's NHL, he's worth that.

[shunoshi]

I think he's seriously considering the Wild in fact. I have a wierd feeling he goes there.

He did play hockey here for a time and has family here, so it wouldn't be a crazy move. I have my fingers crossed.

[Hyperglide]

He did play hockey here for a time and has family here, so it wouldn't be a crazy move. I have my fingers crossed.

I'm betting his short list is Pittsburgh, NJ, and Minnesota. I really hope he goes to the Wild and gets the eff out of the Eastern conference. It will only help my Leafs that much more. ;)

[roboninja]

To all the people complaining about Prust's $2.5M, with a changing cap must come changing expectations. This is now less than 4% of the cap. It is what good 3rd liners are going for.

[Dark Prince]

Vladimir Zharkov has signed to play in CSKA Moskow in Russia’s KHL

So long Zharkov, it was nice to know you. Now we need to get this news about Zach already, I'm going nuts. I don't him anywhere near another jersey other than the Devils!

[MalReynolds]

Salvador re-signs with NJD for 3 yrs, $9.5 mil.

in my option its looks less likely that they afford Parise

Avalanche sign Johnson to four-year, $15 million contract

[Doogie2K]

It was one of Burkes albatross contracts he had to get rid of. LACK (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, Komisarek). He made a bad UFA signing when he did that. If I was the GM of the Leafs it wouldn't have happened but what can we do? We aren't the GM as fans. I didn't like the signing from day one.

In comparison to the Habs he was our own mini Scott Gomez 2.0. Overpriced, always injured and didn't execute or produce on the ice. I wish him well though but I don't want him to succeed cause he went to the Leafs #1 rival. Big mistake. Can't wait to see Phaneuf level him and break his entire body in one hit.

Gonna play devils advocate here and say at least Burke saved a bit of money buy moving him now on this years cap space and owned up to one of his few mistakes. No GM is perfect. Then replaced him with a superior upgrade in McClement at a better deal and a hometown boy who will play his ass off for the Leafs.

Rule 34a: If you can think of it, it's been made into a gratuitous potshot at the Toronto Maple Leafs. ;)

And believe me, I'm all too aware of GM shortcomings. Two words: Nikolai Khabibulin. Okay, two more: Cam Barker. At least we declined to renew on the latter.

Re: Carey Price. Yikes. He's a good young goalie, but I get itchy handing out big money to goalies because they're so unreliable. Damned near every high-end goalie out there still has a stinker of a year (or even half-year) on their ledger the last few seasons, and that can really submarine a team. I'm cautiously optimistic, but man, this could easily turn into a Ward or Fleury contract, where the reputation outstrips the results.

To all the people complaining about Prust's $2.5M, with a changing cap must come changing expectations. This is now less than 4% of the cap. It is what good 3rd liners are going for.

I see what you're saying, but I think that ultimately requires you to assume he's a good third-liner. Unless you think he's closer to the 30-point player he was in 2011 than the 15-point player he was in 2010 and 2012, I'm not sure the salary is justifiable. Moreover, however you measure defensive prowess, the bottom line is that GMs pay for offensive output in all but the rarest of cases. Prust isn't bad defensively, especially for a goon, but he's no vintage Sami Pahlsson or Manny Malhotra; I can't imagine justifying his salary based on defensive contribution alone. (Especially since he's a winger, and thus has less defensive responsibility, anyway.)

Ultimately, if he proves to be able to take on the second-best opposition (most coaches match top lines against each other these days) and not get killed, and pop in a few more points, then it'll be alright, but it seems like a weird gamble. Ditto Jordin Tootoo for $1.9M: he's never proven to be capable of succeeding at more than a fourth-line level, and I don't care what the cap is, you never pay fourth-liners that much.

[Dark Prince]

Well, Parise went home to Minnesota today to talk with his family and fiance about his decision.

As to when we'll hear anything? Rumors point to anywhere from tonight, tomorrow to the end of this week. I honestly don't trust any outlets claiming this kind of deadline when Parise said himself there isn't one. Who knows when we'll hear something?

Btw, with signing Salvador the Devils still have enough cap space to sign Zach to a decent contract considering the quote our beat writer gave us on twitter was that Lou sent Parise a "very competitive offer".

[MalReynolds]

Jagr signs in dallas

[Doogie2K]

Jagr signs in dallas

Yeah, there's the WTF move of the day. Not that it's a bad deal or anything, just that it's kind of unexpected. I mean, the Stars have signed two of the oldest UFAs out there to not-exactly-bargain contracts, and traded for a guy who should be in his prime, but has suffered major injury issues the last couple of years in Derek Roy. It's a hell of a gamble, but I guess you almost have to go big or go home in the West at this point. They could be real fun to watch if the dice fall their way, though.

[Hyperglide]

Yeah, there's the WTF move of the day. Not that it's a bad deal or anything, just that it's kind of unexpected. I mean, the Stars have signed two of the oldest UFAs out there to not-exactly-bargain contracts, and traded for a guy who should be in his prime, but has suffered major injury issues the last couple of years in Derek Roy. It's a hell of a gamble, but I guess you almost have to go big or go home in the West at this point. They could be real fun to watch if the dice fall their way, though.

The Dallas Stars are now the retirement home of the NHL. :D Hell if Nieuwendyk wasn't the GM he'd probably go out there and play.

[biosc1]

Wow.

Jagr in Dallas? Well, I suppose it's a decent retirement spot. Hotter than Philly...less pressure to perform..

[MalReynolds]

The #MnWild agrees to terms with Suter, still working on Parise

Well that blows :(

and it looks like Parise has signed there too

And so its all over

[biosc1]

Wow. Minnesota is really going for it this year. Two great signings.

Wow...still can't get over those two going there. Mostly because it's the Canucks division so the Wild are a threat again.

[Dark Prince]

Well that blows :(

and it looks like Parise has signed there too

And so its all over

Meh, whatever, Parise can go **** himself, so much for loyalty, at least we won't see him that often and I won't have to boo him every night I go to a game. This is Kovy's team now.

Sounds like he completely ignored Lou who was calling him 3-4 times a day over the past four days.

[Dualonymous]

Wow. Minnesota is really going for it this year. Two great signings.

Wow...still can't get over those two going there. Mostly because it's the Canucks division so the Wild are a threat again.

Yeah... should make for some intense games.

[MalReynolds]

All i have to say about all these 10-13 year deals is that the NHL has to do something about them..its getting fucking stupid...

5 year caps

[biosc1]

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4889/captureey.jpg

[Dualonymous]

All i have to say about all these 10-13 year deals is that the NHL has to do something about them..its getting fucking stupid...

5 year caps

:) Does that mean we can cut Luongo's deal down and remove this giant ball and chain on him for the market?

[Dark Prince]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Poile says Predators never got a chance to make a counter-offer. Clearly irked.

I feel bad for Nashville, **** Suter.

[shunoshi]

I have a massive NHL-induced hard on. I can't believe we got both of them...

[biosc1]

I have a massive NHL-induced hard on. I can't believe we got both of them...

I was waiting for you to join the chat ;)

[Hyperglide]

As long as Parise is out of the Eastern conference I am happy. Knew the Leafs had no chance with the way Burke handles contract terms.

[Doogie2K]

Plus: Wild games might finally be watchable.
Minus: Great, one more team we have to climb over now in order to be worth a shit. I was hoping they'd continue to plod along in mediocrity for a while longer.

[Hyperglide]

Plus: Wild games might finally be watchable.
Minus: Great, one more team we have to climb over now in order to be worth a shit. I was hoping they'd continue to plod along in mediocrity for a while longer.

I have to agree with you there. They will not be 'the most boring team' in the NHL anymore. Once Granlund hits their roster that team is gonna be exciting fo sho.

[Serapth]

Thank God we had a lock out to get a salary cap.

Seriously, NHL GMs are amongst the dumbest creatures in the universe.

[Hyperglide]

Thank God we had a lock out to get a salary cap.

Seriously, NHL GMs are amongst the dumbest creatures in the universe.

Have you seen the contracts in the NBA lately as well? I could be a better GM then half the morons in these leagues.

[Serapth]

Have you seen the contracts in the NBA lately as well? I could be a better GM then half the morons in these leagues.

Actually I am blissfully ignorant of all things NBA. Spoiled primadonna infested shithole of a sport. :)

[Hyperglide]

Actually I am blissfully ignorant of all things NBA. Spoiled primadonna infested shithole of a sport. :)

Ya I'm quickly becoming disenchanted with that sport. Who wants to watch the same 6 super teams compete for a championship every year.

[Hyperglide]

Wow.... $33 million for Matt Carle. Ha ha.. this is the best offseason in years. So many overpaid players. Yzerman is desperate.

The Lightning have signed defenseman Matt Carle to a six-year contract tonight, Steve Yzerman has announced.

@DarrenDreger
Carles agrees to 6 year contract with Tampa Bay. $5.5 aav.

[MalReynolds]

Yah id say 3 million is all id pay... I dont want to see what Kris Letang is gonna get next year when his contact is up :(

[Khrymsyn]

wow. 5.5 to Carle? I mean, I would have loved the Flyers to re-sign him, but not at that price.

Guess that's what happens in a pretty weak D FA session... yowza.

[MalReynolds]

Like i said its gonna get interesting for next year how much are dmen gonna get?

[Doogie2K]

Oilers pay seven million dollars for two more years from a league-average goaltender.

At least we're not paying four mill a year for Ondrej Pavelec.

[Dark Prince]

Report: Sharks to name Robinson associate coach (NHL.com)

This sucks. Now we have no assistants! What else can happen now? I hope Lou has that "Plan B" in the works.

[Orca]

All i have to say about all these 10-13 year deals is that the NHL has to do something about them..its getting fucking stupid...

5 year caps

They're going to bring those in just in time to really fuck the Oilers over on all their young talent. :D

[MalReynolds]

Rumor going around Pittsburgh gonna announce the signing of Alexander Semin to a 1 year deal

if he can play to his potential Thats one scary top 6

[Doogie2K]

If so, that's a great job by Shero. The arguments against Semin are, frankly, overstated. Leafs blogger Steve Burtch does a great job breaking them down here (http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2012/7/7/3142627/refutation-of-stupid-semin-arguments). While you can argue team effects on his defensive stats (playing on the top six means being with good D-men, generally), you can also look at his counting numbers from the last couple of years and see where injuries and, this year, the change in system and a slight dip in S% (from his career average around 14-15% down to 11%) hurts his numbers. I'd bet on a bounceback year if he can stay reasonably healthy.

I think there's a lot of anti-Russian horseshit at the heart of all this, TBH. Good for PIT, if they did sign him: they'll get a bona fide top-line winger on a value deal.

[Primus]

We finally get a 2C and we let Semin go to the Pens/ KHL? Fuck me.

Don't let people tell you he sucks either.

[MalReynolds]

My problem with Semin is the same problem i have with all Russian players(including Malkin) They can be lazy and make bad decisions( You dont understand how many penguins games i watch and im yelling at the tv bc of Malkin)

[Dark Prince]

My problem with Semin is the same problem i have with all Russian players(including Malkin) They can be lazy and make bad decisions( You dont understand how many penguins games i watch and im yelling at the tv bc of Malkin)

I feel the same way about Kovy sometimes.

[Hyperglide]

Grabovski and Kulemin never take shifts off. I guess I'm lucky the Leafs have some hard working Russians/Belorussians om the team.

[Doogie2K]

My problem with Semin is the same problem i have with all Russian players(including Malkin) They can be lazy and make bad decisions( You dont understand how many penguins games i watch and im yelling at the tv bc of Malkin)

Because no Canadian or American players are ever lazy or make bad decisions. Heaven fucking forbid.

[Serapth]

Because no Canadian or American players are ever lazy or make bad decisions. Heaven fucking forbid.

There certainly are a lot of Russians that fit the stereotype though...

[Hyperglide]

Teemus coming back for one more season (number 21 wow). Re-signed (no surprise there) by the Ducks for 4.5 million.

[Doogie2K]

There certainly are a lot of Russians that fit the stereotype though...

I have a theory that when a Canadian goes into a slump, he's squeezing his stick, whereas when a Russian goes into a slump, he's fucking the dog.

Also, Dustin Penner, Kyle Wellwood, Dustin Byfuglien, and Keith Tkachuk all say hey.

[Serapth]

I have a theory that when a Canadian goes into a slump, he's squeezing his stick, whereas when a Russian goes into a slump, he's fucking the dog.

Also, Dustin Penner, Kyle Wellwood, Dustin Byfuglien, and Keith Tkachuk all say hey.

Do the math though, there are what? 8x as many Canadians, but seemingly an equal number of dog fuckers...

[Doogie2K]

Do the math though, there are what? 8x as many Canadians, but seemingly an equal number of dog fuckers...

What I'm saying is, there's a presumption that they're dog fuckers that I don't think is necessarily true. People were talking shit about Ilya Kovalchuk dropping off during the later rounds of the playoffs even though he was playing with a herniated disc. I think people are much quicker to draw the "lazy/enigmatic" conclusion about Russian (and Eastern European in general) players, whereas North Americans and Scandinavians are "injured" or "snakebitten."

[roboninja]

What I'm saying is, there's a presumption that they're dog fuckers that I don't think is necessarily true. People were talking shit about Ilya Kovalchuk dropping off during the later rounds of the playoffs even though he was playing with a herniated disc. I think people are much quicker to draw the "lazy/enigmatic" conclusion about Russian (and Eastern European in general) players, whereas North Americans and Scandinavians are "injured" or "snakebitten."

There is some truth to what your are saying. However, it gets old when every time I rip Semin, I'm told I am being biased because he is Russian. It's like I can no longer rag on Russian players because that makes me bigoted. I rip on Penner and Marleau too!

[Doogie2K]

There is some truth to what your are saying. However, it gets old when every time I rip Semin, I'm told I am being biased because he is Russian. It's like I can no longer rag on Russian players because that makes me bigoted. I rip on Penner and Marleau too!

Speaking of Marleau, I recently read a blog post by a Sharks fan who looked at Marleau's reputed streakiness (http://www.fearthefin.com/2012/7/10/3128017/expectation-vs-reality-a-look-at-an-inaccurate-label-patrick-marleau) and found it was basically no different than you'd expect due to random chance alone.

I don't think everyone ripping on Semin is anti-Russian. I just think there are a lot of invalid complaints about him that have been ingrained into our collective consciousness, and I don't think the fact that he's Russian has helped his case any.

Penner's a funny one. He had defenders in the advanced-stats space (http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/8/26/1003249/an-amicus-brief-in-support-of) well before he was known as anything but fat and lazy, and I don't think the fact that he's a big guy who doesn't hit really helps his case much. And indeed, there have been times in his career when he's put up the kind of results that gets fans off your back. But at the same time, we've all seen the same beer gut picture on Twitter. Conditioning and motivation have been a problem with all three franchises he's played for so far; at a certain point, that's not a coincidence or people making shit up.

[Dark Prince]

Devils add Scott Stevens and Matt Shaw as assistant coaches

I'm excited! It's about time Stevens is stepping up behind the bench full time. :cool: Our defense will be killer this year from his experience. Can't wait for puck drop.

[roboninja]

At least you know Stevens will have the respect of the players. Good call I would say.

[Dark Prince]

At least you know Stevens will have the respect of the players. Good call I would say.

Yea definitely. He's been on special assignment with us for the past couple of seasons so it's great that he's able to step up full time and help our defense. I'm going to miss Robinson though.

[biosc1]

Shea Weber to Philly? 14 year deal?!?! $100 million?

[MalReynolds]

NHL needs to step in and do something

Edit: btw i mean years and the supposed 24 million the first year

[Dark Prince]

NHL needs to step in and do something

Edit: btw i mean years and the supposed 24 million the first year

They seriously need to. Because if they don't they're hypocrites for penalizing Kovy's contract and then letting all these insane contracts get signed with no penalty like Crosby's for instance.

[MalReynolds]

most of the 24 million is signing bonuses

[Hyperglide]

I feel bad for Nashville. They just went from cup contenders to lottery team in one season. I just don't see them matching that contract. What is going to happen if they don't match? Is Pekka gonna want a trade? The new CBA needs to seriously be structured to allow small market teams to contend with the larger markets. They need to fix terms like the NBA did. 5 years max.

[biosc1]

I feel bad for Nashville. They just went from cup contenders to lottery team in one season. I just don't see them matching that contract. What is going to happen if they don't match? Is Pekka gonna want a trade? The new CBA needs to seriously be structured to allow small market teams to contend with the larger markets. They need to fix terms like the NBA did. 5 years max.

The are seriously under the floor of the cap, so it's not necessarily unlikely that they'll match.

[Doogie2K]

I haven't seen the structure of the offer sheet. Is it actually structured in a cap-circumventing way, with a lot of bullshit $1M years tacked onto the end?

Also, they did change the rules for those tail years after the Kovalchuk deal to mitigate them somewhat.

[Hyperglide]

The are seriously under the floor of the cap, so it's not necessarily unlikely that they'll match.

Ya but they are a small market team, and they aren't rich and they lose money continuously. They don't have unlimited funds like the Torontos, Philadelphias, Montreals and New Yorks of the league.

[MalReynolds]

Nash was traded from the Columbus Blue Jackets to the New York Rangers for three players and a first-round draft pick. The All-Star, who first went to Columbus management in January and asked to be dealt, heads to Manhattan in exchange for forwards Brandon Dubinsky and Artem Anisimov along with defenceman Tim Erixon and a first-round draft pick in 2013.

man did CBJ get fucked in that deal

[Hyperglide]

CBJ got fleeced. Howson is by far the worst GM in the NHL. Ugh.. I feel so bad for Columbus fans. What the hell are their ownership group doing?

[MalReynolds]

complete rebuild?

[Serapth]

As aa Flames fan, let me just say Fuck Tim. Piece of shit.

[Doogie2K]

Eh, I don't think it was that bad. None of those guys is Rick Nash, but they're getting a couple of good two-way players - Dubinsky in particular should help make up for getting fleeced in the Vermette trade at the deadline - and Erixon is a good D prospect. Having two or three guys who can step into an NHL lineup right now and not get killed isn't nothing when you're coming off a last-place finish: believe me, I know a thing or two about that. ;) I don't think they got better today - putting Anisimov in more offensive situations might help him flourish, but he's not getting 30+ goals - but I'm not convinced they're that much worse, either, especially for down the road. Put another way, this was no "Pronger for Lupul, baby Smid, and magic beans."

Also worth pointing out, Rick Nash is signed for almost $8M until the Second Coming (okay, 2018, close enough). Right now, he's the best player in the deal, but I'd hate to still be sitting on that deal in his 33-year-old season, when he's unlikely to still be an $8M contributor. It's a win-now trade for the Rangers, but possibly a win-later for CBJ, especially since they were going nowhere now and Nash was going to be declining by the time they were good again, even if he hadn't requested a trade.

(I say all this with the caveat that, this being arguably Howson's best deal, there's every possibility he fucks up any hope it gives for the medium and long term. I have the same lack of faith in Howson that I do in Tambellini.)

As aa Flames fan, let me just say Fuck Tim. Piece of shit.

I'm an Oilers fan and I thought that was fucking hilarious.

[Doogie2K]

Incidentally, for those who don't believe in the anti-Russian bias, I noticed that the media were falling all over themselves to talk up Nash's international experience (53 points in 54 games!) to make up for the fact that he'd only been to the playoffs once with a joke expansion team, whereas in 2010, the knock on Ilya Kovalchuk is that he "wasn't a winner," even though he'd played the same number of playoff games (4) with a similarly shit franchise (and, as of 2010, had 67 points in 79 international games, which is only slightly worse, and includes his 18-21 years, when he played behind the stars of the early 2000s, something Nash doesn't have weighing him down).

Just thought that was funny as I was reading Twitter today.

[MalReynolds]

I really want the penguins to give Semin a try He would be explosive on Sid's wing or even trade for Bobby Ryan

[biosc1]

Incidentally, for those who don't believe in the anti-Russian bias, I noticed that the media were falling all over themselves to talk up Nash's international experience (53 points in 54 games!) to make up for the fact that he'd only been to the playoffs once with a joke expansion team, whereas in 2010, the knock on Ilya Kovalchuk is that he "wasn't a winner," even though he'd played the same number of playoff games (4) with a similarly shit franchise (and, as of 2010, had 67 points in 79 international games, which is only slightly worse, and includes his 18-21 years, when he played behind the stars of the early 2000s, something Nash doesn't have weighing him down).

Just thought that was funny as I was reading Twitter today.

I've had some (or listened in on) conversations with very hockey oriented people including an agent and some players who are family friends. Everyone mentions that Kovalchuk is the best 'pure goalscorer' in the league at the moment. Extremely under-rated.

[Dark Prince]

Predators are matching the Weber deal offered by the Flyers.

Looks like they want to keep him or at least attempt to try. The contract was for an insane 14 year 110 million dollar deal.

[MalReynolds]

Predators are matching the Weber deal offered by the Flyers.

Looks like they want to keep him or at least attempt to try. The contract was for an insane 14 year 110 million dollar deal.

they will keep him a year and then trade him... Weber does not want to be in Nashville he came out to media and said so

[biosc1]

He would look great next to Hamhuis again, but at that price...no.

[Doogie2K]

I've had some (or listened in on) conversations with very hockey oriented people including an agent and some players who are family friends. Everyone mentions that Kovalchuk is the best 'pure goalscorer' in the league at the moment. Extremely under-rated.

Absolutely. It baffles me that anyone ever thought his lack of playoff performance was a failing on his part. True, he had Marc Savard, Dany Heatley, and Marian Hossa riding shotgun at different points, but two players does not a hockey team make. Just ask Columbus.

[Serapth]

they will keep him a year and then trade him... Weber does not want to be in Nashville he came out to media and said so

What would they get out of such a trade that would be greater than a bunch of 1st round picks they would get already?

[Doogie2K]

What would they get out of such a trade that would be greater than a bunch of 1st round picks they would get already?

Don't forget the $27M they'd have paid him by the time he was trade eligible ($13M now, $1M salary, $13M on July 1 next year). It'd be amazingly stupid to trade him with that level of investment, given Nashville's finances, especially in his prime.

[Hyperglide]

Don't forget the $27M they'd have paid him by the time he was trade eligible ($13M now, $1M salary, $13M on July 1 next year). It'd be amazingly stupid to trade him with that level of investment, given Nashville's finances, especially in his prime.

They can't trade him for the first year anyways. RFA rules.

I think he gets traded anyways. They can get more for him now that he's in their organization for good then just let him walk for 4 late 1st round picks that won't be worth it.

Plus Philadelphia will have to give more if they want him in their system so bad. I think it's a win for Nashville and a lose for Philly.

[MalReynolds]

What would they get out of such a trade that would be greater than a bunch of 1st round picks they would get already?

because Philly is gonna end up in the top of the east for at least the next 4 season so those picks arent all that great especially in top heavy drafts

[MalReynolds]

The Philadelphia Flyers have locked up one of their own restricted free agents, signing forward Jakub Voracek to a four-year, $17 million contract. Voracek, 22, scored 18 goals and 49 points in 78 games with the Flyers last season.

Hurricanes sign Semin to a one year contract worth $7 million


Ok deal for Flyers but that Semin deal is terrible no matter if its one year or not

[Primus]

Sad to see Semin go, but hey now hell be top line and have a bunch of quality centers to work with.

[Dark Prince]

Would've been nice to see Semin in NJ, but that price is way too high for just one year. I would've went with like 5.5 or 6 tops.

[Doogie2K]

They can't trade him for the first year anyways. RFA rules.

I didn't. ;) That's what I meant by "trade eligible."

I think he gets traded anyways. They can get more for him now that he's in their organization for good then just let him walk for 4 late 1st round picks that won't be worth it.

Plus Philadelphia will have to give more if they want him in their system so bad. I think it's a win for Nashville and a lose for Philly.

Possibly. Even if it makes sense for Nashville, though, I wonder if they won't look at the sunk cost and decide it's not worth it, having already made such a massive investment in such a short period of time just to keep the guy.

As for Semin: I like the deal for Carolina. I mean, yeah, they got no discount on money whatsoever for a guy coming off his worst year since his rookie year but he could easily bounce back under a more compatible coach, playing in another loaded top-six. More to the point, it's only one year, so they can part ways if it's not working out, and all it's cost them is money. And hey, if he puts up 30 or 35 again while playing alongside the Staals and Skinner, he'll have earned his money.

[Hyperglide]

The pullout line

Semin-Staals

The Sperm bank line

Semin-Staals

:D

[Doogie2K]

Hyperglide: I expect Twitter and the blogs to have a field day with those puns this year. My favourite was still @NHLRulebook's "Staal/Semin/Staal will now be one of the top lines in the NHL, and not just the typical guy's frantic internal monologue in the bedroom." :D

The Score compared the media comments about Rick Nash and Alex Semin today (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/07/27/holding-nash-to-the-same-standard-as-semin/). Granted, the numbers will naturally flatter Semin a bit because he had better teammates, but it's still interesting to me that it took "ultimate coach killer" Semin four years and 329 games to get rid of Boudreau, yet Nash has never played for the same coach that long (though Hitchcock came close, and was really killed by Steve Mason).

[MalReynolds]

NEW YORK POST: New Jersey Devils owner Jeff Vanderbeek is reportedly $20 million short of his goal of paying off his lenders, with only a week to go. If Vanderbeek fails to meet his goal by August 14, it’s possible he could lose control of the team.

Shitty deal

[Dark Prince]

Shitty deal

No kidding. Was wondering when we'd hear any sort of update at all about this. I had thought he had found another investor for the team to let him keep ownership.

I swear if I had 20 million dollars lying around, I certainly would have no problem buying a share in the team to prevent the NHL from taking control.

Hopefully he finds something under his matress.

[Doogie2K]

And that's with all the tens of millions you make in a Finals run?

Holy Christ, how deep underwater was he?

[Dark Prince]

And that's with all the tens of millions you make in a Finals run?

Holy Christ, how deep underwater was he?

Last I heard it was around 80 million dollars owed. It's insane the trouble that's happening now.

[Hyperglide]

It would be a sad day to see the Devils leave. I hate them with all my heart but they got a great legacy and had some awesome teams.

New Jersey already lost the Nets they can't lose the Devils.

[Doogie2K]

It would be a sad day to see the Devils leave. I hate them with all my heart but they got a great legacy and had some awesome teams.

New Jersey already lost the Nets they can't lose the Devils.

I can't imagine they will. I know they just let the Thrashers move last year, but at the same time, the Thrashers never had a chance to ingrain with the community (bad teams, indifferent ownership) and had zero prospects for ownership despite years of (quiet) efforts. Phoenix, Nashville, and Pittsburgh all had much more public ownership/relocation battles, but always had possibilities. I'd imagine there's someone out in that neck of the woods with a few million to burn who might want a minority stake in a team, for vanity's sake if nothing else.

Plus, there hasn't been a Stanley Cup champion moved or folded since the Depression. If the NHL's willing to go to this long for Phoenix, I don't think they'll let one of the most successful franchises of the last 20 years just up and bugger off.

[Hyperglide]

I can't imagine they will. I know they just let the Thrashers move last year, but at the same time, the Thrashers never had a chance to ingrain with the community (bad teams, indifferent ownership) and had zero prospects for ownership despite years of (quiet) efforts. Phoenix, Nashville, and Pittsburgh all had much more public ownership/relocation battles, but always had possibilities. I'd imagine there's someone out in that neck of the woods with a few million to burn who might want a minority stake in a team, for vanity's sake if nothing else.

Plus, there hasn't been a Stanley Cup champion moved or folded since the Depression. If the NHL's willing to go to this long for Phoenix, I don't think they'll let one of the most successful franchises of the last 20 years just up and bugger off.

I know it happened the next year but you could count the Quebec Nordiques as a Stanley cup team that folded and moved. I don't have any doubt that if the Avalanche stayed in Quebec that year in 95 they would've still won the cup.

Also Phoenix is done. They just need to move the team already instead of dumping cash in that money pit. Florida, Columbus and Nashville are also in dire straights.

[Dark Prince]

I know it happened the next year but you could count the Quebec Nordiques as a Stanley cup team that folded and moved. I don't have any doubt that if the Avalanche stayed in Quebec that year in 95 they would've still won the cup.

Also Phoenix is done. They just need to move the team already instead of dumping cash in that money pit. Florida, Columbus and Nashville are also in dire straights.

I still don't get why the Florida Panthers even exist. I mean, they have a more successful Tampa Bay Lightening team that has won the cup in the last 8 years. The Panthers have only reached the playoffs once and haven't done anything substantial since 1996 and since their inception and have turned into another Thrashers team.

[biosc1]

I still don't get why the Florida Panthers even exist. I mean, they have a more successful Tampa Bay Lightening team that has won the cup in the last 8 years. The Panthers have only reached the playoffs once and haven't done anything substantial since 1996 and since their inception and have turned into another Thrashers team.

For certain 'very rich people', having a business that loses a ton of money is good for your taxes.

[MalReynolds]

That's how much time remains for the NHL and its players' association to bridge a wide gap in collective bargaining negotiations or face another lockout.

Commissioner Gary Bettman made it clear during Thursday's bargaining session in New York that the league is prepared to lock out its players when the current agreement expires Sept. 15.

"I re-confirmed something that the union has been told multiple times over the last nine to 12 months," Bettman told reporters after a two-hour meeting. "Namely, that time is getting short and the owners are not prepared to operate under this collective bargaining agreement for another season, so we need to get to making a deal and doing it soon. And we believe there's ample time for the parties to get together and make a deal and that's what we're going to be working towards."

The clock is ticking.

not good :(

[biosc1]

not good :(

Worst part is that I finally recovered enough from last season to pull out my Canucks jacket yesterday.

[Doogie2K]

I know it happened the next year but you could count the Quebec Nordiques as a Stanley cup team that folded and moved. I don't have any doubt that if the Avalanche stayed in Quebec that year in 95 they would've still won the cup.

Also Phoenix is done. They just need to move the team already instead of dumping cash in that money pit. Florida, Columbus and Nashville are also in dire straights.

I do. I don't think they get Patrick Roy if they're still in Quebec, and I don't think they win the Cup without him. On the flip side, you could argue that, if not for Roy, they'd have won it all in '93 (lot of good teams leaped out of the way that year). Then, I agree, the NHL would've found a way to save them.

And apparently Jamison found $20M in his couch cushions or some shit. I dunno, I'll believe it when I see it. I've grown fond of Phoenix fans, but even so, it would've been "better" if the City of Glendale hadn't caved and given them more money and they'd gone back to Winnipeg as the true Jets.

[MalReynolds]

in my option they show lower the cap to the point the KHL has something like 13 million.. players still get good money and Ticket prices go down so more people can go see games even the shittier teams

Sorry its at 36ish million...

Also the cap shouldnt go up and a few teams should be gone... strink the league to 20-22 teams

[biosc1]

Never going to happen.

NHLPA will never approve a lower cap.

NHL will never agree to shrinking.

[Serapth]

A lockout would kill the NHL ,and after the last lockout, there isn't a fan in the world that would side with the league. These stupid contracts as of late are 100% at the feet of GM's.

[Dark Prince]

Never going to happen.

NHLPA will never approve a lower cap.

NHL will never agree to shrinking.

Worse case scenario is you relocate a couple of low market teams like Phoenix and and put them in cities where fans will flock and sell out games every night.

I'm sure Quebec would love to have a team again, I mean greanted Canada already has Vancouver, Ottawa, and Toronto and Calgary and even Winnipeg. Put Quebec as part of the Eastern Conference but as to which division, not sure. It would be difficult to find another US city that would be able to have fans going to game and showing support regularly. but aren't they thinking of realignment as part of this new CBA too?

[MalReynolds]

i just think players shouldnt be paid as much as they are... 7-8 million is ridiculous... for god sakes some of the 3-4th lines get paid more then DOCTORS at least in canada

[Doogie2K]

i just think players shouldnt be paid as much as they are... 7-8 million is ridiculous... for god sakes some of the 3-4th lines get paid more then DOCTORS at least in canada

They're the attraction of a multi-billion dollar business, with exceedingly rare athletic talents. They're better athletes than 99.99% of North Americans; why shouldn't they be compensated in kind?

Not saying they shouldn't take a pay cut per se, but "because they're rich" is a terrible reason, especially when doing so without other structural changes to the League's economics will accomplish precisely dick.

[biosc1]

i just think players shouldnt be paid as much as they are... 7-8 million is ridiculous... for god sakes some of the 3-4th lines get paid more then DOCTORS at least in canada

They're the attraction of a multi-billion dollar business, with exceedingly rare athletic talents. They're better athletes than 99.99% of North Americans; why shouldn't they be compensated in kind?


Exactly. I think it's pretty tough to put a value on the players.

Having an ex-hockey playing brother-in-law who now trains those guys I would have to say the amount of time spent learning how to excel at hockey and remain on top of your game far outstrips what a doctor has to do.

Having said all that, I do dislike the player that comes out and says they want a bigger cut of the pie. Like in the NFL, it's not the players who put up the money to build/buy an arena, run a team, and handle all the risk associated with that.