2008-Year of the PS3?

[JayVe]

Earlier this year, a number of news (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23172933/) outlets (http://media.www.brooklynexcelsior.com/media/storage/paper901/news/2008/09/09/Entertainment/Is.2008.The.Year.Of.The.Ps3-3421036.shtml), gaming (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31224/E3-08-This-is-the-year-of-the-PS3) sites (http://n4g.com/ps3/News-196396.aspx), and blogs (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/counting-rupees-the-year-of-the-ps3/) all announced that 2008 was the year of the PS3. As the end of the year grows nigh, and the big holiday release list begins to slow, we can reflect on the past 11 months and begin to answer this question:

Will 2008 be remembered as the year of the PS3?

"2008 is the year of PS3" - Jack Tretton

[Dukefrukem]

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/FacePalm/facepalmrobotmo5.jpg

[Re3x]

Their line up this year was meh, even with LBP. And there is still no Home.

[Norse]

For me? No. I bought 1 PS3 retail title compared to 12 for the X360. There hasn't been much for me in terms of PS3 releases. -07 was way better with Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank and Motorstorm.

[Gorvi]

For the games? Nope, but it was pretty damn good (as good as anything else). For the sales? No to that too, but mostly because it needs a price drop ASAP.

[violent]

I love threads that talk about multi-billion dollar corporations as if they were some internet forum dork spewing claims of Xanadu forthcoming.

[National Kato]

I definitely bought more games for my PS3 this year than I did last year. Mainly because last year I didn't have a PS3.

[DangerousDaze]

Oh FFS will you give it a rest?

[Dukefrukem]

This thread is retarded.... was there a year for the 360? No. Will there ever be a "year" for each console? No! Why humor the poll??

[Dukefrukem]

For me? No. I bought 1 PS3 retail title compared to 12 for the X360. .

The same thing can be said about my experience this year... I bought 2 for 360 and 8 for the PS3.... whoppie do.

[JayVe]

This thread is retarded.... was there a year for the 360? No. Will there ever be a "year" for each console?

Maybe this is why:
"2008 is the year of PS3" - Jack Tretton

Or maybe it has to do with the media, press, bloggers and game journalists claiming that 2008 would be the year of the PS3. You act as if I wrote the article for MSNBC or N4G (http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-98588.aspx?CT=1#Comments).

I'll have you know that there are many brands of decaffeinated coffee that taste just like the real thing.

[violent]

FACT: Most people who buy video games care about other things instead of graphics

Sales numbers and empty promises?

[Xydarc]

While I think the PS3 has a really good line up of games this year, the 360's price drop and sales increase made Jack a liar. Fable 2 and Gears 2 and a Home no-show doesn't help either.

Of course, saying 20XX is the year of anything but the Wii and DS is foolish.

[Deunnero]

I'll have you know that there are many brands of decaffeinated coffee that taste just like the real thing.

Please PM me the list. :D

[Dukefrukem]

Maybe this is why:
"2008 is the year of PS3" - Jack Tretton

Or maybe it has to do with the media, press, bloggers and game journalists claiming that 2008 would be the year of the PS3. You act as if I wrote the article for MSNBC or N4G (http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-98588.aspx?CT=1#Comments).

I'll have you know that there are many brands of decaffeinated coffee that taste just like the real thing.


Bush sr. said "No New taxes"

Nixon said: "I am not a crook"

But Jack Tretton said: "2008 is the year of PS3"

who gives a shit???

[Cyndair]

I love my PS3 and I've been quite happy with the quality and quantity of games this year but I'm not going to vote in this poll. It wasn't the "Year" of any console. Really though, I hope you get the response you are looking for on a mostly pro-360 forum.

[TheFlyingOrc]

LEAVE SONY ALONE!!!!

SONY'S GOlNG THROUGH A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW! SHE'S NOT WELL! THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO MAKE FUN OF HER!!!!

[DangerousDaze]

Shock news. Senior executive delivers marketing sound bite. News at 11.

This is just another utterly transparent Sony-hating bullshit thread from the king of all Sony-haters. Like you give a fuck about the results anyway - you've already made your mind up about the PS3's entire existence.

[Kelegacy]

Yeah, where the heck IS Home? 2009?

I had completely forgotten about it. I'm actually more excited for the NXE right now. I'm a dork and want to dress up my avatar.

[fitbabits]

There will be no definitive "year of the PS3." Instead, there will be a steady trickle of good-to-great titles gracing the console during its lifetime. History will likely show that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 had a similar number of outstanding titles.

[Xydarc]

Despite my post, I am completely happy with my PS3 and the games I play on it. PSN has been stable for me when I play online, and the PS Store has provided plenty of content for me to enjoy.

[OldJadedGamer]

It was the year of the PS3 for me because it was this year that I picked one up. $220 bucks used. Best purchase I made all year so yes... this was the year of the PS3 to me.

[biosc1]

If you count the number of Blu-Ray movies I bought, then sure.

Otherwise, I only bought Burnout: Paradise and a handful of downloadable games. My 360/Wii/PC all had much more love sent their way.

[divinechaos]

I honestly don't think the PS3 is ever gonna have "a year." FF is coming to 360 and so is Tekken. The only things they have going for them are Home and God of War, oh, and maybe InFamous. Then again, we don't know what MS is doing about next year yet besides Halo Recon.

[fitbabits]

I honestly don't think the PS3 is ever gonna have "a year." FF is coming to 360 and so is Tekken. The only things they have going for them are Home and God of War, oh, and maybe InFamous. Then again, we don't know what MS is doing about next year yet besides Halo Recon.
Add Heavy Rain to the list. I suspect that title will blow people away.

[TheFlyingOrc]

I honestly don't think the PS3 is ever gonna have "a year." FF is coming to 360 and so is Tekken. The only things they have going for them are Home and God of War, oh, and maybe InFamous. Then again, we don't know what MS is doing about next year yet besides Halo Recon.

We haven't really known what MS was going next year for the past 2 years, and both years have been excellent. The PS3 finally got to the point where it's worth it to already own one, it's just not worth it to BUY one.

[Gorvi]

Then again, we don't know what MS is doing about next year yet besides Halo Recon.
Alan-Mother-Fucking-Wake. Or at least they'd damn well better.

[KingGorilla]

I bought one, Much like my 360, I am dusting it more than using it. But at least there was an Ebay market in 06 when I sold the Xbox. Rockband is cool and all, I got Condemned II waiting from Buy.com; I may have unwrapped it, definitely took it out of the envelope. It just lacks the magic of my PC.

But I do not think the troll bait topic applies to me.

[JayVe]

Bush sr. said "No New taxes"

Nixon said: "I am not a crook"

But Jack Tretton said: "2008 is the year of PS3"

who gives a shit???

LMAO!

Are you for real? Did you just compare Jack Tretton to Nixon.

Dude, are you sure you don't work for Sony? Cause that's about type of bone-headed PR I'd expect from them.

Anyway, just in case I wasn't clear... you aren't helping your case.:D

[Deadend]

LEAVE SONY ALONE!!!!

SONY'S GOlNG THROUGH A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW! SHE'S NOT WELL! THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO MAKE FUN OF HER!!!!

Man, you do a good impression.

If only CoG was older, I could pull up the posts from Feb. when the PS3 was outselling the 360 by a few thousand units and some guys were going "HA HA! THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE FOREVER!!!"... and as of right now, the 360 has outsold the PS3 in the US just this year. Even though I think PS3 had the lead on the charts most of the year.

What this was, it was the 2nd year of the Wii.

The mainstream doesn't care about PS3 and 360.

Still doesn't mean we can't laugh at all the predictions about how the PS3 has got it's game togther THIS TIME.

So, 2009.. the real start of the reign of PS3?

[Gorvi]

LMAO!

Are you for real? Did you just compare Jack Tretton to Nixon.

Dude, are you sure you don't work for Sony? Cause that's about type of bone-headed PR I'd expect from them.

Anyway, just in case I wasn't clear... you aren't helping your case.:D
His (badly worded) point is that the majority of us take what is said by the execs as "exec speak" and leave it at that, similar to how most people filter what we hear in any kind of marketing message through our own personal bullshit filters. Not many people actually take that stuff seriously, I sure as hell hope you don't.

[Deadend]

His (badly worded) point is that the majority of us take what is said by the execs as "exec speak" and leave it at that, similar to how most people filter what we hear in any kind of marketing message through our own personal bullshit filters. Not many people actually take that stuff seriously, I sure as hell hope you don't.

But when they are wrong, they should be called on it. Permiting bullshit speak just leads to more bullshit.

[Gorvi]

But when they are wrong, they should be called on it. Permiting bullshit speak just leads to more bullshit.
Called on it? Are they ever going to see this? Would they even care? You have to know that anything they say is usually bullshit. Anything. Any company. They will always put the most positive spin imaginable on anything. Chuckle and move on. Heck, Microsoft puts in almost every press release these days that the 360 has the best lineup of any console ever (their words). Of course that's bullshit, but we ignore because we recognize it as such.

[JayVe]

His (badly worded) point is that the majority of us take what is said by the execs as "exec speak" and leave it at that, similar to how most people filter what we hear in any kind of marketing message through our own personal bullshit filters. Not many people actually take that stuff seriously, I sure as hell hope you don't.

The point is that it wasn't just Mr. Tretton spouting nonsense. Many news organizations went on to state or predict that the PS3 would have a watershed year. It isn't an isolated affair, and practically became a rally cry for some of the system's most ardent supporters.

He [Dukefrukem] asked WHY there was even a 'year of the PS3'. I answered that the Jack Tretton quote is probably why.

Now is a good time to reflect on that prediction, and see how true it has become. If the answer is yes, as it is for some in here, then so be it. if the answer is no, well that's fine too. I'm covered either way, cause I won all three systems.

No matter the answer, there's no reason to get panties all bunched up.

[OldJadedGamer]

Called on it? Are they ever going to see this? Would they even care? You have to know that anything they say is usually bullshit. Anything. Any company. They will always put the most positive spin imaginable on anything. Chuckle and move on. Heck, Microsoft puts in almost every press release these days that the 360 has the best lineup of any console ever (their words). Of course that's bullshit, but we ignore because we recognize it as such.

Not this guy, he's the only sane one at Sony. Never a retarded remark out of his mouth:

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/10443/10443.jpg

[JayVe]

Called on it? Are they ever going to see this? Would they even care? You have to know that anything they say is usually bullshit. Anything. Any company. They will always put the most positive spin imaginable on anything.

That's nice. So when a corporation or political leader lies, we should just nod knowingly instead of pointing it out? When we discuss lies, it isn't so that the executive or politician hear our cries. It is so that OTHER PEOPLE hear the truth. The more people who know and DEMAND the truth, the less executives and politicians will be able to get away with lies.

That said, I don't think Tretton's 'year of the PS3' was a lie. Hype? Yes. Lie? No. I don't think he needs to be 'called' on it. but It is worth reflecting upon. Cause you know, at some point in the future, we'll hear it again. 2010 - The year of the PS3!

[Gorvi]

The point is that it wasn't just Mr. Tretton spouting nonsense. Many news organizations went on to state or predict that the PS3 would have a watershed year. It isn't an isolated affair, and practically became a rally cry for some of the system's most ardent supporters.

He asked WHY there was even a 'year of the PS3'. I answered that the Jack Tretton quote is probably why.

Now is a good time to reflect on that prediction, and see how true it has become. If the answer is yes, as it is for some in here, then so be it. if the answer is no, well that's fine too. I'm covered either way, cause I won all three systems.

No matter the answer, there's no reason to get panties all bunched up.
There is no answer, that's my point, it was a stupid thing to say on his part. But that's what they do, spout overly positive nonsense. Just because a lot of sites picked up on it doesn't all of a sudden make it a valid statement.

[roboninja]

Do not worry, the big bad Sony monster won't steal your 360.

This was the year of the PS3 for me, since I bought one. Other than that, there is little I care about when it comes to the topic.

[JayVe]

There is no answer, that's my point

But there IS an answer for many. Choosing not to vote is a valid response. There is no answer, for you. That's completely cool. Feel comfortable in that.

[Gorvi]

That's nice. So when a corporation or political leader lies, we should just nod knowingly instead of pointing it out? When we discuss lies, it isn't so that the executive or politician hear our cries. It is so that OTHER PEOPLE hear the truth. The more people who know and DEMAND the truth, the less executives and politicians will be able to get away with lies.

That said, I don't think Tretton's 'year of the PS3' was a lie. Hype? Yes. Lie? No. I don't think he needs to be 'called' on it. but It is worth reflecting upon. Cause you know, at some point in the future, we'll hear it again. 2010 - The year of the PS3!
But we're not talking about lies here, we're talking about putting positive spin on something. There's a huge difference there. It happens all the time and the people who are dumb enough to fall for it only have themselves to blame. Unfortunately, it's the way most businesses work.

Will we hear it again? Sure, I wouldn't be surprised. You're giving the statement much more attention than it deserves.

[fitbabits]

One thing worth mentioning - how is Tretton defining "the year of the PS3?" It doesn't seem answerable unless there is some kind of quantifiable measure of what he meant.

[DangerousDaze]

/edit - no point. I've said enough. You managed to wind me up - successful troll is successful and all that. Bravo.

[danhoo]

I voted yes for chuckles. Every poll should have a chuckle-vote.

[JayVe]

You're giving the statement much more attention than it deserves.
Ooops! So did all those news sites.

Shame on me for reading the news. :cool:

[JayVe]

One thing worth mentioning - how is Tretton defining "the year of the PS3?" It doesn't seem answerable unless there is some kind of quantifiable measure of what he meant.

Is 2008 the year of the PS3 in your mind? The poll isn't "Is 2008 the year of the PS3 according to Tretton's definition". In fact, that's why there are a number of news articles linked.

That's also why it is a poll. It is designed to poll people's opinions, not facts. If it was fact-based... then no poll would be necessary since it would be a black-and-white response, based on quantifiable measurements.

[divinechaos]

Actually, the PS3 will have "a year." The year when they finally realize they gotta bring the price down to the 360 level and add a free copy of MGS4. Oh, and free candy.

[Dukefrukem]

LMAO!

Are you for real? Did you just compare Jack Tretton to Nixon.

Dude, are you sure you don't work for Sony? Cause that's about type of bone-headed PR I'd expect from them.

Anyway, just in case I wasn't clear... you aren't helping your case.:D


I don't even know why you bother making threads like this. You know that's the kind of reaction you're going to get. Maybe thats what you want. But for some reason you LOVE posting negative playstation and negative Sony threads. God only knows why. You're not helping your case that you don't have some sort of adjenda.

[Dukefrukem]

But we're not talking about lies here, we're talking about putting positive spin on something. There's a huge difference there. It happens all the time and the people who are dumb enough to fall for it only have themselves to blame. Unfortunately, it's the way most businesses work.

Will we hear it again? Sure, I wouldn't be surprised. You're giving the statement much more attention than it deserves.

Exactly Gorvi. Fuckin Exactly. Are you happy with your PS3? Because I sure as hell am and that's all that matters. It doesnt melt, it doesn't collect dust like my 360. It does everything I want it to do and more, but for some reason, some people are stuck on sentences that they take literal, and person and feel the need to exploit them months later when it's not even relevant to whats going on around them.

/edit - no point. I've said enough. You managed to wind me up - successful troll is successful and all that. Bravo.

I saw it. ANd I commend you.

[JayVe]

I don't even know why you bother making threads like this. You know that's the kind of reaction you're going to get. Maybe thats what you want. But for some reason you LOVE posting negative playstation and negative Sony threads. God only knows why. You're not helping your case that you don't have some sort of adjenda.When you don't like the message, try and discredit the messenger? I asked a question. You have problems with questions? How is my question unfair? How is it negative?

Talk about me all you like. I have a post history, and I stand by it.

[Norse]

Oh boy. I love how some of you get so upset by Kam's posts and find them to be troll bait. Why just not ignore his posts then? It's not like Sony needs you to defend them, at least if it's just fiction.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Oh boy. I love how some of you get so upset by Kam's posts and find them to be troll bait. Why just not ignore his posts then? It's not like Sony needs you to defend them, at least if it's just fiction.

Exactly. I pick on Sony because it's fun. If you ACTUALLY FEEL UPSET because of JayVe's posts, the problem isn't him, it's you. Mocking a game company for fun is one thing, but LETTING YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE OF GAME COMPANY STUFF is way dumber. I quit that nonsense in my early teens.

[DarkDay]

lol, 2006, year of the ps3.....2007 year of the ps3... must be 2008.

uhh...no. Though I will hopefully finally own one by then. Comon price drop.

Silly sh#t like this keeps earning a thread regardless of which console, but this should be fun to read anyways.

[Gorvi]

Exactly. I pick on Sony because it's fun. If you ACTUALLY FEEL UPSET because of JayVe's posts, the problem isn't him, it's you. Mocking a game company for fun is one thing, but LETTING YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE OF GAME COMPANY STUFF is way dumber. I quit that nonsense in my early teens.
Y-Elr5K2Vuo

[RandoM51]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2gvvg3m.jpg

Hopefully Kamalot gets paid for his efforts.

[DarkDay]

Only console that hurt my feelings on its way out was my Dreamcast:(
But even then its a bloody company that makes millions from us< if we cant laugh at all of them then we are the fools. I support great games, but to actually get upset over someone bashing a multi million dollar company is beyond retarded.

Everyone of them should be made fun of in good fun. Hell making fun of all things is good times.

People need to lighten up and have a laugh.

Summation.
360 has the games, great specs, shitttttttty hardware.
ps3 has great hardware, great specs, shittty price and not quite the line up of games.

Both cost too much and both companies have no idea I exist. So they can eat it, ill just play the games.

[Straximus]

2008 will be remembered as the end of console fanboyism, when we focused more on games instead of the arbitrary hardware they ran on.

if only...

[DarkDay]

2008 will be remembered as the end of console fanboyism, when we focused more on games instead of the arbitrary hardware they ran on.

if only...

Was just sippin my coffee outside thinking this, lol. Guess its understandable for younger doodes to have this affliction, but for the adults out there that still hold true to fanboysim...its beyond me, but fun as hell to read when bored.

I think I would miss it and game forums would die off.
Fanboys are the dirty fuel that keep this rollin.

[fitbabits]

2008 is also the year of the Earth Rat.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Y-Elr5K2Vuo

I can't watch video at work, could you tell me what u did thar?

[TheFlyingOrc]

2008 will be remembered as the end of console fanboyism, when we focused more on games instead of the arbitrary hardware they ran on.

if only...

Someday, everyone will realize that their favorite sports team is just a huge company providing entertainment, and that talking about which one is the best and which one you like really doesn't matter very much, and that having fun mocking other teams whoa are really just there for the same reason as your team.

[Gorvi]

I can't watch video at work, could you tell me what u did thar?
Shit. I liked that too. You'll see when you get home. :)

[Telefrog]

Exactly. I pick on Sony because it's fun. If you ACTUALLY FEEL UPSET because of JayVe's posts, the problem isn't him, it's you. Mocking a game company for fun is one thing, but LETTING YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE OF GAME COMPANY STUFF is way dumber. I quit that nonsense in my early teens.

No kidding. Unless you actually work for Sony, or have a large investment in Sony stock, why would this question even upset you?

I don't have any particular loyalty to any of the three console makers right now. I like my 360 for the breadth and depth of software available to it, but if Sony ever dropped their price to something reasonable, I'd love to own one.

When people say the quality control of the 360 hardware sucks, I nod my head and agree because they're right. If someone says the price of a PS3 is completely out of line with the perceived value, they're right too. Screw being loyal.

[Rock Bandit]

I wanted to get a PS3 this year but they refuse to cut the price. Cunts.

[Straximus]

Someday, everyone will realize that their favorite sports team is just a huge company providing entertainment, and that talking about which one is the best and which one you like really doesn't matter very much, and that having fun mocking other teams whoa are really just there for the same reason as your team.

if only...

[pomeroy]

I wanted to get a PS3 this year but they refuse to cut the price. Cunts.

Yep. I actually started wanting one for LittleBigPlanet, but it's still too pricey.

[Urizen]

LEAVE SONY ALONE!!!!

SONY'S GOlNG THROUGH A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW! SHE'S NOT WELL! THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO MAKE FUN OF HER!!!!

Sony hits me because she loves me.

[KingGorilla]

2008 will be remembered as the end of console fanboyism, when we focused more on games instead of the arbitrary hardware they ran on.

if only...

I will remember cake and implied pedophilia.

[MalReynolds]

whens Home comin ?

[Spigot]

It IS the year that the PS3 started to really show itself as being a system worth investing in instead of an overpriced Blu-Ray player but given the troubles they've had with 'system seller' games like LBP and the fact that it's still pretty expensive compared to the competition, I can't see anyone seriously thinking it was the 'YEAR OF THE PS3' in the sense that the PS3 creamed the competition.

[violent]

If by "Year of the PS3" they meant Metal Gear Solid 4, they delivered.

[Purple Santa]

I still find the figures of sales for the PS3 kinda scary. A year after the 360 launched, look at the sales from outside the U.S. There are a lot more Sony loyalists left than I thought there was. I wonder what sales would be like if the machine was more affordable.

[OldJadedGamer]

If by "Year of the PS3" they meant Metal Gear Solid 4, they delivered.

I played the demo last night and was seriously bored to tears. I have a friend that loves the series to death (even bought the GunMetal PS3) and I try soooooooooo hard to see what the appeal of this game is and I just can't.

[violent]

I played the demo last night and was seriously bored to tears. I have a friend that loves the series to death (even bought the GunMetal PS3) and I try soooooooooo hard to see what the appeal of this game is and I just can't.

I would be silly to argue with you on the matter. No game is for everyone, less MGS. As a fan of the series, I thought it was damned impressive.

[cepwin]

I voted yes for a number of reasons:
1. Winning the HD wars.
2. MGS 4...sold me the console (the MGS 4 bundle) It's a poster child for why video games should be considered "art" like movies, books, etc.
3. LPB - One of the more innovative games this year
4. Resistance 2 - Not the most unique shooter but loads of fun...300 ft leviathan, co-op that is pure adrenaline.
5. Unique PSN games such as Pixel junk eden, etc.
6. Addition of trophy system

For 2009 I'd like to see Sony do the following:
1. Include a headset in each box. Assuming you're playing with nice people, it takes something away from the multiplayer experience when you can't talk to your fellow players.
2. Make trophies mandatory as achievements are on the xbox.
3. Finally get Home out the door and make it something people will want to spend time with.
4. Release a SW back compat update...they should have never taken it out!

In general both consoles have their pros and cons. Live's infrastructure has been stronger than PSN but PSN has some unique games and I believe the PS3 hardware is just plain better.

[JayVe]

For 2009 I'd like to see Sony do the following:
1. Include a headset in each box. Assuming you're playing with nice people, it takes something away from the multiplayer experience when you can't talk to your fellow players.
While you are adding things to the box, why not put some form of HD cable in there? The big draw of the PS3 is high-def, be it gaming or movies. To not include a cable to get ANY form of HD picture from the system is criminal.

[cepwin]

Good point JayVe! They can probably pick up an HDMI for a few dollars and the customers would appreciate it a lot.

While you are adding things to the box, why not put some form of HD cable in there? The big draw of the PS3 is high-def, be it gaming or movies. To not include a cable to get ANY form of HD picture from the system is criminal.

[OldJadedGamer]

While you are adding things to the box, why not put some form of HD cable in there? The big draw of the PS3 is high-def, be it gaming or movies. To not include a cable to get ANY form of HD picture from the system is criminal.

I do find it amusing that they sometimes put a Blu-ray in the box but not the cables to actually watch it properly. Out of the box, that Blu-ray movie plays in 480i.

[Wolvie]

LMAO! NO SILLY GOOSE! 2009 maybe, but this year belongs to Nintendo, again. Followed not so closely by the 360.

[Slack3r78]

1. Winning the HD wars.
Huh? If anything, the PS3's hardware deficiency relative to the 360 has become more apparent this year given the number of cross platform releases with noticeable visual problems on the PS3 side that have come out lately.

[pomeroy]

LMAO! NO SILLY GOOSE! 2009 maybe, but this year belongs to Nintendo, again. Followed not so closely by the 360.

Silly goose?

Wolvie...what the hell, man.

[total]

I would be silly to argue with you on the matter. No game is for everyone, less MGS. As a fan of the series, I thought it was damned impressive.

I've been a vocal critic or the series for quite some time (MGS2 was fucking trash) but I would easily give MGS4 my vote for game of the year. Outstanding gaming experience.

Of course I really enjoy the multiplayer too so what the hell do I know.

[menage]

Huh? If anything, the PS3's hardware deficiency relative to the 360 has become more apparent this year given the number of cross platform releases with noticeable visual problems on the PS3 side that have come out lately.

He meant movies.

But I agree on your point. PS3 releases are rarely better on their platform. Some are on par like DMC or Burnout. But Fallout 3 made me realize in a big way how fucking borked the system can still be sometimes.

[Disgustipated]

LMAO! NO SILLY GOOSE! 2009 maybe, but this year belongs to Nintendo, again. Followed not so closely by the 360.

For sales, Nintendo sure did win.

For gamers, the 360 was the winner.

[Wolvie]

Silly goose?

Wolvie...what the hell, man.

That would be sarcasm. In other words, the answer should be obvious. And that answer would be no. :p

For sales, Nintendo sure did win.

For gamers, the 360 was the winner.

No arguments here.

[J3DI]

News outlets and blogs are already starting to write entries that state "2009, Year of the PS3." So my guess is that they didn't quite get it right in 07 or 08. I pretty much expect these kind of articles until the Ps3 completely overcomes the 360 in the U.S.

[JayVe]

News outlets and blogs are already starting to write entries that state "2009, Year of the PS3." So my guess is that they didn't quite get it right in 07 or 08. I pretty much expect these kind of articles until the Ps3 completely overcomes the 360 in the U.S.

So, do you really think the PS3 will eventually overtake the 360 here in the US, or will we always get the "Year of the PS3" articles until the PS4 comes out?

[violent]

Does this whole "Year of the X" bullshit indicate year in this country or worldwide? Seems like a stupid questions but then, the original subject leaves little to work with.

[Deadend]

Does this whole "Year of the X" bullshit indicate year in this country or worldwide? Seems like a stupid questions but then, the original subject leaves little to work with.

2009 - Year of the X!

2008 was Year of Co-Op.

[jeffbax]

I don't see why not. 2008 is when its finally starting to hit its stride and prove its a great system with tons of great games. Its finally delivering and aside from userbase and price the 360 doesn't really have any major advantages at this point in terms of game releases or features.

This doesn't necessarily mean it had a better year or blew anyone away, but its finally when Sony finally stepped their game up and got competitive.

[Spigot]

2008 being the year when Sony stopped tripping over its feet (and tongue) and started to actually begin to make a bit of progress does not equal it being THE YEAR OF THE PS3!

I still think it's just a little shy of hitting its stride and being accepted as a defacto game system. It's getting mighty close and I still think that a $100 price cut would cinch the deal and get people to easily pick it over the 360.

This could be called the year that lead to the year of the PS3 if Sony keeps eating humble pie and focuses on what the system can do instead of how great the PS2 was.

[Dukefrukem]

I still think it's just a little shy of hitting its stride and being accepted as a defacto game system. It's getting mighty close and I still think that a $100 price cut would cinch the deal and get people to easily pick it over the 360.



Based on what? You do realize the PS3 is outselling the 360 in the first two years of release? And the PS3 trails the 360 by a mere 5 million total since both launches... thats the PS3 closing in on 5 million units after a year head start on the market. So... you want to rephrase your post?

[JayVe]

Based on what? You do realize the PS3 is outselling the 360 in the first two years of release?

Yep. I do realize that. I also realize that the PS3 isn't going to be catching up with the 360 any time soon (http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39397&end=39761&weekly=1)if we look at the big picture. I also realize that the 360 recently underwent price drops, making it much more affordable. It will take some time to see how those price drops play out.

Want to look at the picture a little closer to home (http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39404&end=39761&weekly=1)? Maybe, since every time Japanese or European numbers show up, someone invariably asks, "Who the hell cares about [some country]?!"

[Telefrog]

Based on what?

Math, maybe? Simple arithmetic? It doesn't take much extrapolation to see that "catching up" to the 360 will take some time especially if the 360 continues to sell well during the Nov and Dec of this year.

As for catching up to the Wii... Well... :D

[Spigot]

Thanks Kammy. I think that the 360's recent price drops and the fact that the PS3 hasn't really had a significant price drop will lead to what momentum the PS3 has had being squandered, esp. over the holiday season this year.

And I'm someone who really wants to see the PS3 find its legs and stop living in the shadow of the 360. I think it's a fundamentally better piece of hardware but there are a variety of things holding it back and the fact that it hasn't had at least a $50 price drop this fall isn't doing it any favours.

[Victorvonviolence]

Gotta love threads like this, it's when the internet bullies come out to play.

[Spigot]

Wait, am I an internet bully now? Woo!

[Re3x]

PS3 price drop by the holiday season 2009.

[Spigot]

PS3 price drop by the holiday season 2009.I sure hope so. If they're still trying to justify it being $399 or so come this time next year, they don't have their heads on straight. The 360 will probably be $150 by then :)

[Orca]

PS3 price drop by the holiday season 2009.

There's no doubt about that, but what they needed was a holiday season 2008 drop and had no room left to do it in.

[Shadowstorm]

For sales, Nintendo sure did win.

For gamers, the 360 was the winner.

This sums up my opinion as well.

[Variable Gear]

For sales, Nintendo sure did win.

For gamers, the 360 was the winner.
What about PC?

[violent]

What about PC?

We're the ones sitting at nice tables eating juicy steaks and smoking fine cigars while the kids in the sandbox laugh at us amidst pee-soaked sandfights.

[KingGorilla]

We're the ones sitting at nice tables eating juicy steaks and smoking fine cigars while the kids in the sandbox laugh at us amidst pee-soaked sandfights.

You forgot the 100 year old Bourbon.

[violent]

You forgot the 100 year old Bourbon.

No need to bring that one up my good man. They simply wouldn't understand.

[itchyeyes]

Sony has had a good year, especially when compared to how poorly they fared in '07. That said, I definitely don't think it was the "year of the PS3" that many had said it would be. During the middle of this year Sony seemed to have finally captured the community's attention with the release of MGS4. Since then, I think things have receded for Sony though. While released to fantastic reviews, LBP seems to be selling rather poorly and the network and IP issues seem to have dampened a lot of the initial excitement. Resistance 2, while getting good reviews, seems like it's once again getting overshadowed by Gears of War. And Home seems to have been delayed until the end of time.

Meanwhile, I think Microsoft is having a better than expected year. Fable 2 and Gears of War are generating a lot of buzz for the platform going into the Christmas season, much more than expected in the case of Fable 2. The NXE seems to be capturing a lot of attention as well. Meanwhile MSFT has managed to get out ahead of Sony once again on price.

Overall, I'd say '08 was probably a draw between MSFT and Sony. Each company has had their successes and failures this year. I think that draw hurts Sony a lot, however. The PS3 was behind when it launched and MSFT owned 2007*. At the beginning of '08 MSFT was showing some serious weaknesses and Sony had the opening to really execute and establish itself as the dominate machine, which they failed to do. Moving forward MSFT once again has the upper hand and it's going to be very difficult for the PS3 to catch up.

*with the exception, of course, of the Wii

[KingGorilla]

No need to bring that one up my good man. They simply wouldn't understand.

A bully Harumph!

[violent]

A bully Harumph!

Huzzahs all around.

[Rock Bandit]

We're the ones sitting at nice tables eating juicy steaks and smoking fine cigars while the kids in the sandbox laugh at us amidst pee-soaked sandfights.

Whatever, you're all just a bunch of damn pirates pillaging and torrenting. Every last one of you. :p

[OldJadedGamer]

What about PC?

You mean that OS that I have to boot when I have some vague weird program that won't run on OSX?

[Variable Gear]

You mean that OS that I have to boot when I have some vague weird program that won't run on OSX?
Notice that I didn't say Windows. ;)

[Dukefrukem]

Yep. I do realize that. I also realize that the PS3 isn't going to be catching up with the 360 any time soon (http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&start=39397&end=39761&weekly=1)if we look at the big picture. I also realize that the 360 recently underwent price drops, making it much more affordable. It will take some time to see how those price drops play out.

Want to look at the picture a little closer to home (http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&start=39404&end=39761&weekly=1)? Maybe, since every time Japanese or European numbers show up, someone invariably asks, "Who the hell cares about [some country]?!"



Math, maybe? Simple arithmetic? It doesn't take much extrapolation to see that "catching up" to the 360 will take some time especially if the 360 continues to sell well during the Nov and Dec of this year.

As for catching up to the Wii... Well... :D

Both of you need to understand, I wasn't talking about "catching up". I was comments on the "hitting it's stride" post. How can the PS3 not be hitting it's stride (assuming the 360 has) and have sold more units in the first two years?

SOrry for the late response. Been playing L4D... Game of the Year.

[violent]

Whatever, you're all just a bunch of damn pirates pillaging and torrenting. Every last one of you. :p

We're like a big family with a lot of bad cousins.

[Telefrog]

Both of you need to understand, I wasn't talking about "catching up". I was comments on the "hitting it's stride" post. How can the PS3 not be hitting it's stride (assuming the 360 has) and have sold more units in the first two years?

SOrry for the late response. Been playing L4D... Game of the Year.

I think the idea of the PS3 "hitting it's stride" is certainly more feasible. Really, the only flubs I've seen this year from Sony is their inability to secure previously exclusive developers and the lack of a true price drop.

As for, L4D, yeah. I haven't played Gears 2 yet, but L4D is definitely my GotY so far.

[Spigot]

A lot of this conversation reminds me of the post that Bill Harris (http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2008/11/console-post-of-week-mini.html) put up last week. I'll just quote it here.

As I've written periodically over the last six months, the PS3 is tapped out in terms of growing sales. They'll do substantially better in November and December, because everyone does, but at $399, their baseline demand in non-holiday months is 45,000-50,000 units a week.

That's also (basically) where the 360 was in terms of demand at the $349 ("Premium") price point. Look at the weekly rate of sales (by month):
April--47,000
May--46,750
June--44,000
July--51,250
August--48,750

That's quite similar, so it's instructive to look at what happened to the rate of sales per week after the $50 price cut to $299 on September 7:
September--69,400
October--92,750

In other words, there's plenty of untapped demand for the 360 that's entirely dependent on the price point, and I think it's fair to say that there's also plenty of untapped demand for the PS3 which Sony isn't going to find until they lower the price.

If you begin a generation chasing on price, and you can't sell significantly more units than who you're chasing, it's unlikely that you'll ever catch up. And in this generation, Sony started with a whopping $200 gap to closeI'll say it again, I want the PS3 to step up and at least come somewhere close to parity with the 360, but like Bill and Telefrog said, they really need to drop the price before they'll see much more action on the sales front.