Zero Punctuation

[johnperkins21]

I usually call it a Super En Ee Es. Snes just sounds dumb when said aloud.

[Xydarc]

Much better than the Mass Effect 2 review.

[Gorvi]

I usually call it a Super En Ee Es. Snes just sounds dumb when said aloud.
I support this statement.

[Narradisall]

Lol, loved it.

And I've heard Sness plenty before. It's quicker than saying Super En Ee Ess and makes you sound less like a special needs person that needs to sound out every letter of a word.

Granted, it then leaves you sounding like a retard that shortens the names of things into silly sounding noises, but it's the lesser of two evils to me.

[TheKeck]

Es En Ee Es, or simply Super Nintendo.

More importantly, did anyone else appreciate the irony of the advertising accompanying the video? :D

[TheKeck]

The more I think about it, the more I've determined that I would just nearly always say Super Nintendo. Dirty abbreviating heathens.

[Urizen]

SNES and NES are both correctly pronounced as single words. Just like SEGA.

Or you guys see 'SEGA' and read it as 'Service Games'?

[GigaFuzz]

Bloody hell, imagine this thread if he'd mentioned the Mega Drive!.

[Talanvor]

Oh boy, Heavy Rain (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1528-Heavy-Rain) is up this week. Though I really love his expression at the end for pointless futility.

[boratika]

Hey, wow, that was the exact contents of my fridge a few days ago.

[Xydarc]

Heh, "brown lightning"

[menage]

No spoilers? I want to click but don't want to ruin the game.

[Gwinny]

I think that's the best one in a while! I really must get around to playing the game.

I don't think there were many spoilers, but then I'm not generally fussed about them. Nothing stood out as "ruined" but those who have played it, do correct me if I'm wrong.

[Spigot]

There are a couple of light spoilers of the extremely vague kind, but nothing that utterly would ruin the game. That said, the less you know about the events in the game while you go through it, the better.

[J Arcane]

He rather echoes many of my own thoughts (http://jarcane.tumblr.com/post/417782662/infovore-the-most-compelling-case-should-be-for) after playing the demo.

[Narradisall]

It sounds like he did enjoy some points of the game, but getting there was a pain.

Was rather a good amusing review though.

[Dukefrukem]

God he's good. So good. And yes, Zodiac is boring as a mother fucker.

[Talanvor]

This week Yahtzee reviews Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1546-Battlefield-Bad-Company-2).

[Narradisall]

I loved that one. Especially the Wheres Wally bit.

[Xydarc]

So...is there a lot of dust in the game?

[Lint of Death]

So...is there a lot of dust in the game?

I don't own it, so no.

[axion]

So...is there a lot of dust in the game?

Yeah on some maps if you're in a vehicle it is nigh impossible to see anything. Atacama Desert I'm looking at you... Sounds like he didn't really play the MP (I know that's not really his thing) which is really where the most fun is to be had.

[crazyD]

Yeah, I've found the single player to be crap, but love the multi.

[Dukefrukem]

Final Fantasy XIII (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1569-Final-Fantasy-XIII)

[Dukefrukem]

long one today

1. linear
2. foot steps
3. kooky spice
4. unclear story
5. etcher sketch
6. rockem-sockem-robots
7. NOT good story telling
8. FFXIII gets good 20 hours in... LOL
9. chew face


brilliant as usual

[ClannerDelta]

Clop clop clop clop clop. So true. Was like that in FFVIII as well.

Too bad for Hope though. He's one of... oh... I think one Final Fantasy character that actually has character development. Aside from Aeris developing a severe case of death, that is.

[Talanvor]

Did like the spice rundown, heh. And are the footsteps really that distracting? I remember playing Record of Lodoss War for the DC and the footsteps were horrible, especially if you put on armored boots. Think we could have sorted that out by now.

[ClannerDelta]

Did like the spice rundown, heh. And are the footsteps really that distracting? I remember playing Record of Lodoss War for the DC and the footsteps were horrible, especially if you put on armored boots. Think we could have sorted that out by now.

Sometimes worse than others and it's not overwhelmingly bad later in the game. The first 9 hours or so, I honestly can't remember any background music. Just Clop Clop Clop Clop Clop.

[Ten19]

Five hours is about how much I could stand before sending it back to GameFly. Yay continuity!

[IIntrude]

Yup, a bit over 5 hours or so and it is now sitting on my shelf collecting dust, never to be played again.

[Narradisall]

Great, makes me feel like picking this up was worth it. All I'll hear is clop clop clop when I start.

I guess I'll just look at it like a chore for the first 20 hours, till I might be able to get to the fun.

[JayK47]

Ha. I am so glad I passed this up. Wish others would do the same. If we stop buying crappy games, they will either stop making them or at least try something different. Oh well, I guess if they want to make crappy games and people want to play them, who am I to complain? Enjoy your crap.

[Spigot]

If I hear on more "it gets fun after 20 hours" remark I'm going to scream. I haven't made it to the part where it supposedly gets fun and I'm loving the game. I can only imagine how much more enjoyable a perfectly fine experience will be once I make it to chapter 11. I won't argue that it takes 7 chapters for most of the cast to become likable.

[kyrieee]

I'm surprised I still enjoy his videos

[ClannerDelta]

If I hear on more "it gets fun after 20 hours" remark I'm going to scream. I haven't made it to the part where it supposedly gets fun and I'm loving the game. I can only imagine how much more enjoyable a perfectly fine experience will be once I make it to chapter 11. I won't argue that it takes 7 chapters for most of the cast to become likable.

It doesn't get more fun. I don't understand this. Either you enjoy the experience or you aren't going to like it ever. Chapter 11 is a marginally more open experience, but it's literally nothing more than doing kill missions. It's shallow and provides no respite from the linear nature of the game. It just adds travel time. It's so boring. Let me run for 5 minutes to get to the mark, then kill it, then do it again. Over and over.

If you aren't liking the game at around chapter 5-6, you aren't going to like the game IMO.

[Spigot]

Exactly. That's the point I'm so annoyed about. It's like the fact that it's wider open is some magical spice that fundamentally changes the game in ways to make the first ten chapters moot. I just haven't found the first seven chapters to be this pit of drudgery that almost every review seems to have had to suffer through.

[AntonThaGreat]

One of the best damn reviews he's ever produced if you ask me. Spot on and hilarious.

[Spigot]

While I don't agree with his take on the game, that was a great 'review'. And it is hard to argue with a lot of his points if you're not the kind of brain damaged FF fanboy (that I am)...

That said, I love what he does to Vanille in the closing credits. It's like he read my mind :)

[menage]

Both things that could ruin a picknick. LOL

I agree with this review. Every bit. I can only play it for 1,5 hours max at a time before I start zoning out on it. It;s just too much of the fucking same.

Still, it;s a good hangover game, since the game just requires whacking buttons L! and X the whole time.

[Spigot]

It definately does take about 20 hours for the entire cast to turn from whiny/spunky/grumpy bitches to people I actually like (and who can stand to be in the same room as each other) but I don't really mind that. I was actually surprised that they all were sort of redeemed both in the story and to the player at around the same time (and so 'early' in the game :) )

[Paradox Symphony]

Jeasus guys! I was about to waltz in here and say how much beef I have with the latest review and then I suddenly realized, FFXIII is a warzone. A mixed bag that you're gonna hate or love. Personally I love it. I think the combat appears over-complicated but becomes a simple and easy system once what I like to call the tutorial area(pretty much untill paradigms and a bit after)and I love the characters. Even Hope pulled through later in the game. Not really Vanille, though. But if anything she becomes less annoying :P And it's not that the game gets good 20 hours in, it gets good after Chapter 2, in my opinion. You only love all the characters 20 hours in, and even before that you can put up with them pretty easily. It's not like putting your hand on an Oven.

But I'm pretty sure everyone has heard these arguements before, and like I said, you either love it or hate it...

[ClannerDelta]

But I'm pretty sure everyone has heard these arguements before, and like I said, you either love it or hate it...

Honestly, I don't think I've ever had someone try to sell me something by saying. "It's better than putting your hand in the oven." So... no, don't think I heard that argument. It's also a bit of an example of why the game would be trash for anyone who isn't a fan of linear JRPGs. You're also right about the combat. It's fun and easy, surprisingly deep when you get into it, but around Chapter 11 the fights double-quadruple in length. It really drags the game down in what is a transparent attempt to pad the game's length.

[J Arcane]

IF you took out the transparent padding, most JRPGs would be a whopping 2 hours long at best.

[ClannerDelta]

IF you took out the transparent padding, most JRPGs would be a whopping 2 hours long at best.
I understand the point, but this is more like urine in the pool. Sure, you're soaked already, but you really don't want that specific liquid touching you.

[Ten19]

Oh hi, God of War III (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1595-God-of-War-III)!

I think Yahtzee has a cold or something.

[Urizen]

I would think that the puzzles were the easiest thing to knock in GOW3.

[Dukefrukem]

love it so much. and yeh it sounds like he has a cold.

[menage]

Pretty boringt review, although you really need thgse other weapons to fight certain enemies Yatzee.

[Savok]

That's worse, it meant they knew they hadn't designed proper alternatives.

[menage]

That's worse, it meant they knew they hadn't designed proper alternatives.

Huh?

I don't get what you mean, lot's of games have specific weapons which can beat certain enemies.

[Savok]

True, but when you need the "multiple weapons" bullet point on the box and can't design fun alternatives, forcing you to use them is the way to go.

[menage]

Kind of a different way at looking at it I guess. I see it as a firespell against an ice enemy kind of thing.

Like the gloves beating the crap out of men with big shields. Makes sense to me.

I do agree it's kinda rigid.

[Savok]

Granted it's very much based on the context. For instance, the gun on the sandworms in Darksiders, that was awesome. Same game though, they force you to put on those gloves in certain areas when you'd much rather be using your sword you've spent the game leveling up, it's forced variety for the sheer sake of it.

[Dark Prince]

ZP goes on site with Red Steel 2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1610-Red-Steel-2)

[Talanvor]

Ha! That was pretty good, actually. I have a buddy who went nuts for the first Red Steel and promptly went and nearly threw out his shoulder playing the sequel. Not sure if he ever finished it, though.

[Xydarc]

It's been a while since I've actually laughed out loud at a ZP.

[Stoke]

Just Cause 2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1632-Just-Cause-2)

I thought it was pretty good this week. Laughed out loud at the suicidal boss.

[Ten19]

Good stuff. Basically how I felt about it, too, though I'm still picking away at a lot of the extra crap, because it's fun to faff about.

[Xydarc]

I had to watch the video twice. Why?

Just Cause!

That and I was laughing so much I missed half the jokes.

[Wolvie]

It's been a while since I've actually laughed out loud at a ZP.

It's been a long time for everyone. :D

Anyways I will have to check this video out since I am really enjoying this game. I bet he rags on how quickly you die.

[Dark Prince]

It's been a while since I've actually laughed out loud at a ZP.

I would have to say that goes for this week as well. :D

[Spigot]

Man, between this 'review' and what I hear from my buddies, I am fighting against the urge to run out and get the game. I have to wait until I finish a few more games before I dive into a crazy sandbox like this.

I hear there is a beached whale that you can blow up... I must have a game that lets me blow up whales...

[Savok]

Seriously? Shit I have to find that.

[Paradox Symphony]

vaVoK1-LvzU

There is also a bubble gun, the island from Lost, a fake shark fin moving around in a lake, and other easter eggs.

[Spigot]

I've heard about the Lost island. I want this game for the easter eggs sooo badly.

[Generation ABXY]

Strangely, so do I, now. I never got around to playing the first one, but searching for Easter eggs was always hours of funs in GTA (though I get ungodly amounts of playtime from that series, anyway).

[Ten19]

His latest...

Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1651-Silent-Hill-Shattered-Memories). He liked some SH games, as I recall, how will this one fare?

[J Arcane]

Wait, did they really make a Silent Hill arcade game?

[Savok]

Looks like.... yes.

EDIT: And here's a moving picture

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Kinda puts my complaints about L4D2 into perspective. At least it wasn't a light gun game.

[Mike Kelehan]

I hear there is a beached whale that you can blow up... I must have a game that lets me blow up whales...

I think they really missed an opportunity by not having a golf ball in that whale's blowhole.

[TheKeck]

vaVoK1-LvzU

There is also a bubble gun, the island from Lost, a fake shark fin moving around in a lake, and other easter eggs.
They got the part right about hardly getting rid of any of the whale but missed the bit about all the falling whale chunks everywhere.

Any Dave Barry fans out there? ;)

[digitalErich]

I've heard about the Lost island. I want this game for the easter eggs sooo badly.
I thought it was only the hatch, or is there really an island with multiple Lost references? I'm still waiting on a Steam sale to pick this up.

[Paradox Symphony]

I thought it was only the hatch, or is there really an island with multiple Lost references? I'm still waiting on a Steam sale to pick this up.

If you fly a plane over it, it will crash. There is also some message written in sand on the beach, I forgot it but it's probably the one that doctor was trying to make in the... second season? I have really lost intrest in LOST. Oh, and if you listen closely you can hear the Fog monster thing.

[Spigot]

I hope he's kind to Shattered Memories. I loved the game, esp. the ending.

[crazyD]

He's not a fan.

[Spigot]

Bah. I hope it's not because they took out combat, because that was probably the aspect of it that I most appreciated.

[crazyD]

No, he is fine with that, but doesn't like that they took out any sort of threat in the game.

[tacitus]

Slightly OT:

Yahtzee is getting getting a book published (http://www.amazon.com/Mogworld-Yahtzee-Croshaw/dp/1595825290/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1)

[Spigot]

Slightly OT:

Yahtzee is getting getting a book published (http://www.amazon.com/Mogworld-Yahtzee-Croshaw/dp/1595825290/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1)I find it funny that it's not listed as being written by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw.

[Squidbot]

The Silent Hill video was hilarious. I still want to play it though.

[Gwinny]

I admit, I'll probably buy his book. I hope it'll be a bit Terry Pratchett-ish.

[LongStepMantis]

Slightly OT:

Yahtzee is getting getting a book published (http://www.amazon.com/Mogworld-Yahtzee-Croshaw/dp/1595825290/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1)

Is the entire thing one long run-on sentence? :D

[Ten19]

It's that tiiiime again!

Splinter Cell: Conviction (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1684-Splinter-Cell-Conviction), go!

[Talanvor]

The A.I. must have been dropped on its head as a subroutine.

Ha!

[H.Bogard]

Rob pattison simulation. That's fucking hilarious!

[TheKeck]

I should get Hitman: Blood Money.

Edit: Apparently you can get Hitman 2, Contracts, and Blood Money on Amazon for cheaper than just Blood Money alone. For some reason, this saddens me.

[Lekon]

I should get Hitman: Blood Money.

Edit: Apparently you can get Hitman 2, Contracts, and Blood Money on Amazon for cheaper than just Blood Money alone. For some reason, this saddens me.

All of the Hitman games were great. They just kept getting better as the series went, and Blood Money really knocked it out of the park.

[JayK47]

His "reviews" continue to amaze me. They seem to keep getting better and funnier.

[TheKeck]

All of the Hitman games were great. They just kept getting better as the series went, and Blood Money really knocked it out of the park.
Really? Man, I really need to get it then. I loved 2 and 3 so much.

[Savok]

I still replay Blood Money, had a permanent place on my HD until it became a SSD. Kept the saves though for when I do install it again.

[Spigot]

I think my biggest shame, as a fan of stealth games, is that I never really got into the Hitman series. I played about half of the first one back when it came out but that's been about it for me. My brother raves about it and I hear that Blood Money is fantastic... I need to invest in it forthwith!

[GigaFuzz]

I've never played much of the first one, probably just the demo, but I love 2 onwards. As far as a I know, Hitman 2 made a lot of improvements over the first, and the rest have steadily improved on that.

[crazyD]

Yeah, that's one of the biggest issues with the games for me. They can't really be played in reverse order because each one is such a big improvement over the previous. Blood Money was the first one I played, and I just can't get into any of the others, because they are just not as good. Not much of a complaint.

[Narradisall]

Loved it. Sam Fisher was always a bit less stealthy than the others.

[Xydarc]

Is the enemy AI really that bad?

[TheKeck]

Is the enemy AI really that bad?
I have never played the game, but I can answer unequivocally that yes, it really is that bad. Yahtzee never exaggerates anything. ;)

[Narradisall]

Well, they do talk a lot.....

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/838303391_mkMe4-L.jpg

[Generation ABXY]

I've no real interest in Splinter Cell (I missed out for far too long, I think), but I have to say, I'm tempted to pick up Hitman: Blood Money now.

[Spectre-7]

I've no real interest in Splinter Cell (I missed out for far too long, I think), but I have to say, I'm tempted to pick up Hitman: Blood Money now.

I just played it earlier this year, and I'll chime in and say that it's completely awesome. I really enjoyed the puzzle aspect to carrying out hits, and the game honestly provides so many options that you can't help but carry out a hit uniquely. I always felt like I was kludging something... but I love a game that let's me kludge.

I really wish more developers were working on this sort of sandbox: complex systems with (reasonably) realistic rules and reactions that let you poke and prod them until you figure out your own answer. Fun stuff.

[J Arcane]

Is Blood Money any less awkward and slow that previous games? I lost interest in the series with 2, as despite the hype and promise, the slow pace of the game and the arbitrary AI that forced it to be even slower, was too much.

[crazyD]

It's definitely a slow paced game. All about planning. I wouldn't call it awkward, though.

[Spigot]

Is Blood Money any less awkward and slow that previous games? I lost interest in the series with 2, as despite the hype and promise, the slow pace of the game and the arbitrary AI that forced it to be even slower, was too much.The pacing is what I like the most about these kind of games. Thief was much the same. I could sit for several minutes just lurking in a shadow, listening in on guards and waiting for them to move to a position that would let me either sneak past them or kosh them on the noggin with my blackjack (and let's face it, I never just snuck past them when I could knock them out).

If you don't like that kind of pacing, then I wouldn't bother with the rest of the series from all accounts. I think I'm definately going to grab Blood Money sooner than later though as I'm jonesing for a good sneaker...

[J Arcane]

See, having to take my time, plan my moves, that's fine. I've played and loved many a stealth game, and that's totally a part of it.

What I didn't like was the way the forced you to be slow all the time in some of the levels. I don't really play games to spend 20 minutes just walking across a level, but that's exactly what hitman 2 forced me to do pretty routinely, because if you didn't, everyone in the level would magically see you and know instantly you were a bad guy, and the whole thing turned into a fire fight.

It was tedious, and arbitrary, and I hated it, which made me sad, because the otherwise sandbox-y approach sounded like such a good idea on paper.

[Spigot]

Ah, gotcha. I never did play HM2. I don't remember having to deal with that kind of stuff in the original though. Sneaky yes, but sneaky all the time, not so much.

Unless you were going for the super-sneaky route that usually involved not killing anyone except the target and doing a lot of costume changes and so forth...

[Savok]

You'll never spend 20 minutes just walking across a map in Blood Money. There are times you are waiting around doing fuck all though, and there is the odd AI quirk, but mostly it's a vast improvement from all of the previous ones.

[Sly Marbo]

I absolutely love Blood Money. It's still the only game that made me want to work to get all of the achievements. Getting a perfect, silent kill was extremely gratifying.

[TheKeck]

Ah, gotcha. I never did play HM2. I don't remember having to deal with that kind of stuff in the original though. Sneaky yes, but sneaky all the time, not so much.

Unless you were going for the super-sneaky route that usually involved not killing anyone except the target and doing a lot of costume changes and so forth...
You haven't finished a level until you've gotten silent assassin ranking. :cool:

[Slack3r78]

Blood Money is definitely the best in the series, though I adore the entire franchise. Supposedly a new one coming out this fall. Really looking forward to it.

[CES]

Blood Money is perhaps the only Hitman game where I spent loads of time going back to previous levels and refining my planned hit. The upgradable weapons system really lets you go back and do things differently.

Take for example the mission where you have to kill someone in the Witness Protection Program. The usual method is a complicated mix of drugging people and sneaking around but if you have the upgraded sniper you can just hide in the open garage opposite the target's house (he's sitting watching TV). Pop him, hide until it's quiet and they move the body into a cupboard then sneak in and brain his mistress and steal the microfilm. Run to the exit and job done.

Other methods of execution for that mission are:

Phoning the target so he walks up to the window for a better shot.
Rigging a BBQ to explode when the mistress lights it up (complete with hilarious cinematic)
Beat up a clown and steal his outfit to sneak into the house (there's a party on)

[crazyD]

The clown costume was awesome. Such an angry clown.

I also really dug the Mardi Gras stage. Being stealthy in huge crowds was awesome.

[Spectre-7]

I also really dug the Mardi Gras stage. Being stealthy in huge crowds was awesome.

There's nothing quite like shooting a man in the face while you're wearing a chicken costume. Good times.

[Talanvor]

I really wanted to like Hitman, I really did. I played the first one and it was so buggy and glitchy I couldn't even finish some of the missions. Really left a sour taste in my mouth.

[Savok]

The first was doing something that'd never been done before, gotta cut it a lot of slack. 2 basically made everything 100x better, Blood Money is even better still.

[CES]

I really wanted to like Hitman, I really did. I played the first one and it was so buggy and glitchy I couldn't even finish some of the missions. Really left a sour taste in my mouth.

Think of the first game as the really fragile prototype. SA fixed the alert meter so it wasn't as random, Contracts added the "context" movement system (push up against the side of a balcony to jump to another type of thing) and Blood Money added the accident and notoriety features.

Basically, Blood Money is the one least likely to screw you over and on the off-chance it does, it's the game with the best chance of you being able to escape.

[Talanvor]

Yahtzee reviewed a JRPG this week. Anyone care to guess if he liked it or not?

Nier (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1703-Nier)

[Narradisall]

The end pun was great, in a terrible way.

Bosh!

[Xydarc]

Yahtzee reviewed a JRPG this week. Anyone care to guess if he liked it or not?

Nier (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1703-Nier)
He didn't...hate it.:confused:

[Ten19]

Is it Dead to Rights Really that time again?

It is! Dead to Rights: Retribution (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1717-Dead-to-Rights-Retribution)

I don't think I've ever played the original (are there more?)

[Generation ABXY]

Is it Dead to Rights Really that time again?

Ah, well at least that makes sense now (thought it was some bizarre typo). Have to say, I got quite a chuckle at the bit about letting his gun talking: "...and it only knows one, really loud word." :D

[Talanvor]

I want my own pocket universe where pain is God and I'm the bleeding Pope.

[Ten19]

One of the few Wii games recently that I've considering renting..

Monster Hunter Tri (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1732-Monster-Hunter-Tri)!

What the fuck is this horrible EQ2 advertising?!

[J Arcane]

Awesome. Really, he's dead on here. There's a reason its always an MMO that pulls me away from MH, it's that I inevitably realize they offer the same thing, but less tedium.

The monster fights are never as good though.

[J Arcane]

Also, annoying ad frame aside, ZP plays well on my Nexus.

[TheKeck]

Annoying ad is annoying. I don't get why people think that pissing me off is going to encourage me to buy their product.

Sigh... I know... it must work on other people. Still...

[Talanvor]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about wrt the annoying ads.

All I see is a nice red stop sign with ABP written on it in the corner of the browser.

[tacitus]

Annoying ad is annoying. I don't get why people think that pissing me off is going to encourage me to buy their product.

Sigh... I know... it must work on other people. Still...
If you click on it you get a survey asking why you aren't playing Everquest II - with a different badly designed horrible color scheme.

[Talanvor]

Wait, it's for Everquest?! People still play that?

[tacitus]

Wait, it's for Everquest?! People still play that?
yep, both the original and the sequel have even had fairly recent expansions.

[Spigot]

Well, I would have really liked to have watched the MH3 video but that stupid ad or whatever it is seems to have borked the stream. I just get a message saying that they can't find this week's episode of ZP (in a more technical manner, of course).

Sigh.

[Vandabo]

I had to turn of Ad block plus to get it to play.

[LongStepMantis]

What ads?

NoScript + Adblock ftw. ;)

[Spigot]

It ended up working after a few tries.

[Narradisall]

Hilarious. I laughed out loud at the part where he met the sea monster, and then went back trying to find it again because it was the only exciting thing that had happened the whole time.

[Spectre-7]

Today... Alan Wake. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1756-Alan-Wake)

[Talanvor]

I'm a little surprised that they would mention Stephen King in the game so candidly. Though I honestly couldn't tell you why, I know the protagonist is a writer and it's a horror game.

[Narradisall]

I did get some good laughs out of that.

The reasons why you kept ending up in the bloody woods did start to get silly.

[Dukefrukem]

Red Dead! (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1776-Red-Dead-Redemption)


edit: "Brown Alive Redemption" Bwhahahhahahaaaaaaaa

[Dukefrukem]

"If a Time Sink is what you want then Christmas ha come early... On a Glittery Horse that's stuck in a wall..." god he's good.

[crazyD]

Yeah, I heard when he said those things as well!

[Savok]

Oh dear I don't think he played very far.

He is right about the bugs though, jesus christ.

[Talanvor]

I laughed quite a few times from that. The controls for walking do feel just a bit.. off. I get that humans, as a rule, aren't incredibly nimble but I think that's one of those sacrifices of reality that is okay to make. The horses, on the other hand, control incredibly well IMHO. I'm just surprised they didn't give the horse routines to stop and drink water or wander off to find some food.

I really haven't run into that many bugs myself though, the only one that sticks out is when I was meeting Irish for a mission and we were supposed to mount our horses and ride off. Well, for whatever reason, after the cutscene Irish didn't have his horse. So I kept getting prompted to get on my horse, which I was already on, and nothing happened. I had to go back to my last save to get it sorted out.

"If a Time Sink is what you want then Christmas ha come early... On a Glittery Horse that's stuck in a wall..." god he's good.

He said glitchy, not glittery. He did mention WoW, so I can see the confusion. ;)

[Dukefrukem]

Ah i thought he said glittery as it... the game looks pretty.

[Generation ABXY]

Well, at least he didn't seem so out of left field this time; he seemed to echo much of what I've heard around here (only funnier... no offense to you guys, of course). Mind you, it still won't deter me - it just so happens I am looking for a time sink, no matter what kind of horse it's on. ;)

[JayK47]

I laughed quite a few times from that. The controls for walking do feel just a bit.. off. I get that humans, as a rule, aren't incredibly nimble but I think that's one of those sacrifices of reality that is okay to make. The horses, on the other hand, control incredibly well IMHO. I'm just surprised they didn't give the horse routines to stop and drink water or wander off to find some food.

I really haven't run into that many bugs myself though, the only one that sticks out is when I was meeting Irish for a mission and we were supposed to mount our horses and ride off. Well, for whatever reason, after the cutscene Irish didn't have his horse. So I kept getting prompted to get on my horse, which I was already on, and nothing happened. I had to go back to my last save to get it sorted out.



He said glitchy, not glittery. He did mention WoW, so I can see the confusion. ;)

Ha. I had that same issue. I thought it was because I mistook his horse for mine and the game didn't know how to handle that. So I did a reload and whistled for my horse. From that point on I would simply whistle for my horse than try and guess and guess wrong.

[Savok]

Well, at least he didn't seem so out of left field this time; he seemed to echo much of what I've heard around here (only funnier... no offense to you guys, of course). Mind you, it still won't deter me - it just so happens I am looking for a time sink, no matter what kind of horse it's on. ;)
Just keep in mind that while the writing in the first act/area is excellent, it gets steadily worse after that.

[Generation ABXY]

Well, like GTA, I imagine I'll play the story mainly to unlock all the areas.

[Savok]

Honestly, story is all there is to do.

The side things do have a point, as they do unlock shit, but they are mostly massive, annoying time sinks. Outside of minigames like Poker and Horseshoes, there's bounties which once you've done one, you've done them all and random events which will start to repeat very quickly.

Treasure hunting is quite neat though, if incredibly frustrating and ultimately pointless.

[Spigot]

I like doing the side stuff. It is time-sinky but fun.

[Ten19]

This week... Alpha Protocol (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1801-Alpha-Protocol)!

[H.Bogard]

Three legged dog with an eating disorder...

[Savok]

Oh there's going to be backlash over the Kevin Conroy thing. He probably meant Stephen Conroy, who wants to censor the Internet here but still.

[Ten19]

Time to cut some ancient banners, it's Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1815-Prince-of-Persia-The-Forgotten-Sands).

[Narradisall]

Well that was enjoyable.

[JayK47]

Ha ha. I usually don't check out his reviews of games that I have no interest in. Perhaps I should, because this review was funny and busted on Roger Ebert.

[Xerxes]

This week... Alpha Protocol (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1801-Alpha-Protocol)!

What's so funny about this was, he didn't so much hate it, but had a few issues unlike some reviews. Sounded like he tried to like it.

[crazyD]

E3 2010 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1838-E3-2010) .

[MachEnergy]

Not bad. Didn't have me laughing a whole lot, but still about as good as usual. What really caught my attention was the song at the end. That was fucking great!

[Generation ABXY]

What really caught my attention was the song at the end. That was fucking great!

I don't know about you, but I made it my ringtone the second she used "bloodhound" for a rhyme... O_o

[MachEnergy]

I don't know about you, but I made it my ringtone the second she used "bloodhound" for a rhyme... O_o

LOL

I had never heard of Rebecca Mayes before. I suppose I need to explore The Escapist a bit more. Anyways, I bought her album from Amazon, and I really enjoy it so far. Cool shit.

[Xydarc]

Not bad. Didn't have me laughing a whole lot, but still about as good as usual. What really caught my attention was the song at the end. That was fucking great!
What song?:confused:

That was less a review of E3 and more a rant against motion controls.

[johnperkins21]

That was less a review of E3 and more a rant against motion controls.

Which is a fair review of an E3 that was filled with motion controls. Kinect and Move were very big parts of what both MS and Sony were showing off. Plus you have the Wii, which is pretty much a motion control console, and a bunch of third parties showing off a bunch of their games for the new motion control systems.

If you're not interested in motion controls then this year's E3 was probably pretty depressing. I know it depressed me. But I'm more interested in a hand job from Freddy Krueger than the Wii, Move or Kinect.

[Spectre-7]

What song?:confused:

Didn't notice there was like 4 minutes left in the video after the credits finished?

[Shieldmaiden]

The only thing he said that I disagree with is that how we play games doesn't matter. If that were the case, we'd still be happily playing PC games without mice and all our console games with those stupid fucking paddle things.

[Spectre-7]

The only thing he said that I disagree with is that how we play games doesn't matter. If that were the case, we'd still be happily playing PC games without mice and all our console games with those stupid fucking paddle things.

What, you don't? Shit, I still do all my fragging with my trusty old Atari joystick. And when I win, I pull off the rubber top, suction-cup it to my forehead and run around the house screaming, "Y'all been pwned by the 8-BIT UNICORN, BITCHES!"

True story.

[boratika]

Didn't notice there was like 4 minutes left in the video after the credits finished?

No. And no matter how hard I look at the end of the credits, I still can't seem to find those four minutes. The credits finish and the videos just, you know, ends.

[Spectre-7]

No. And no matter how hard I look at the end of the credits, I still can't seem to find those four minutes. The credits finish and the videos just, you know, ends.

That's because of this...

I didn't see that song either (at the end of the video, anyway). Was wondering what everyone was going on about haha.

That's because it's been removed from the end of the clip, possibly so that people weren't put under false impressions that the video was going to be an eight-minute epic concerning every minute game that was announced at E3, but probably because the Escapist got fed up with all of the damn Rebecca Mayes haters on this very thread.

Still, controversy feeds publicity, which ironically is what Yahtzee said in another review.

And if you'd really like to hear the song, you can find it here. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/rebecca-mayes-muses/1829-Love-Song-for-Yahtzee) I found it kind of meh, but it's got that pale vegan girl sound that all the kids are so crazy about these days.

[Hotcod]

The only thing he said that I disagree with is that how we play games doesn't matter. If that were the case, we'd still be happily playing PC games without mice and all our console games with those stupid fucking paddle things.

Eh? I thought he was saying that the aim in controlling games is to reduce the space between what you are thinking and an action on screen. What we want in the end is to control the character in that none thinking way like we control our body and that is a hugely different thing to controlling a character with our body. Until we have holodecks or direct neural input or the like where we are in effect 'in' the game our self and are the character we want to control like our body then using the body as a controller is often gong to be self defeating

[Savok]

He's fallen into the same trap so many of us do, he's forgotten we've been doing this for decades.

People look at a modern controller layout and a piece of their brain dies, they play something where mimicing kicking a ball means kicking a ball and it makes a thousand times more sense then tilting the controller a certain way and tapping strange glyphs in the right order. Of course there's the argument of "well why don't you just go kick a fucking ball at that point", but that's another debate.

[Generation ABXY]

That's because of this...

Ah, that explains it... and here I was thinking half of us just went crazy. :D

[Xydarc]

I wonder why she gets all the hate. I thought it was a good song.

[Savok]

Is she a vegan? That would explain it.

[Lint of Death]

If you're not interested in motion controls then this year's E3 was probably pretty depressing.

Only if you've never heard of Super Meat Boy (http://store.steampowered.com/app/40800/)! The first few chapters of the XBLA version were available to play, including 3 or 4 of the unlockable characters.

[Savok]

So.... N+ then?

[Xerxes]

Is she a vegan? That would explain it.

I can't find anything that says that's true. But the possibility still irks me. Like a nagging knee ache. Eww vegans.

[Ten19]

Oh, by the way.

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1856-No-More-Heroes-2-Desperate-Struggle).

[Gorvi]

Your weekly funny:

Super Mario Galaxy 2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1871-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2)

[Savok]

I've just got it today, and from what I've played he's right about everything, it is an expansion pack.

And while it lacks the magic and some of the presentation of the first game, it is more SMG and Yoshi is really well done so fuck it I like playing almost the same game over again.

Side note, that tutorial DVD scares me.

[Narradisall]

Wow, so Nintendo are finally starting to run out of ways to 'innovate' the same IP's over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and hurk..........

[Savok]

In fairness, it's Super Mario Galaxy 2, it was never really billed as anything other then "more of the first one".

On that note New Super Mario Bros or whatever added 4 player co-op which completely changed everything, just Yahtzee like many of us is a hermit when it comes to gaming.

[Gorvi]

http://www.oldies.com/i/boxart/simu/44/089218447890.jpg

[Talanvor]

On that note New Super Mario Bros or whatever added 4 player co-op which completely changed everything, just Yahtzee like many of us is a hermit when it comes to gaming.

Well, from my experience playing it with people, it usually ends up with everyone just trying to kill each other. Or, my personal favorite, when there's one person vainly actually trying to finish the level, but everyone else is floating around in a bubble.

[SonofSeth]

The most brilliantest yet!

[Shieldmaiden]

I totally agree with his sentiment. Not specifically, I've not played SMG2, but about doing new stuff. I'm not going to pan a game for not being original, but I do get annoyed when a game that doesn't do anything particularly new or exciting gets hailed as the bestest thing everer. This goes double if one of the main things the game is praised for has nothing to do with actually playing the game, like the writing (if it's not interactive) or being "cinematic."

[JayK47]

Mmmm. Cake.

[TheKeck]

I'm not going to throw a hissy fit, but I have to say that I found his analysis pretty lacking. If there was one word I WOULDN'T use to describe SMG2, it's stagnant.

[crazyD]

I'm not going to throw a hissy fit, but I have to say that I found his analysis pretty lacking. If there was one word I WOULDN'T use to describe SMG2, it's stagnant.

How so? I like the game, and it's a lot of fun to play, but it's not really innovative after SMG.

[Lint of Death]

Bwahahahaha, "Starship Narcissus"! And that text adventure screen!

[Spigot]

On the surface SMG2 doesn't seem to really do anything different than SMG1 but once you've put some time into it (and esp. once you get to the second galaxy and beyond), the level design really starts to stand apart from SMG1's.

[TheKeck]

On the surface SMG2 doesn't seem to really do anything different than SMG1 but once you've put some time into it (and esp. once you get to the second galaxy and beyond), the level design really starts to stand apart from SMG1's.
Yeah, there's just all kind of new stuff going on all the times. Tons of variety.

[CappinCanuck]

I'm not going to throw a hissy fit, but I have to say that I found his analysis pretty lacking. If there was one word I WOULDN'T use to describe SMG2, it's stagnant.

Well, his reviews really aren't that in-depth normally. I treat it as a funny and not a recommendation on whether to buy.

[Stoke]

Meh, all I need to know to stay away from it is that it still has shitty controls.

[Savok]

The controls are great, but ok.

[Spigot]

Meh, all I need to know to stay away from it is that it still has shitty controls.Where on earth are you hearing that it has shitty controls? If anything, SMG and SMG2 are probably the most precise platformers on the market.

[crazyD]

To be fair, they could be better. Shaking to attack isn't very precise, and I'd prefer it if I could play the game on the Classic controller.

[Spigot]

To be fair, they could be better. Shaking to attack isn't very precise, and I'd prefer it if I could play the game on the Classic controller.Hmm... I guess you have a SLIGHT point there :)

[Stoke]

Where on earth are you hearing that it has shitty controls? If anything, SMG and SMG2 are probably the most precise platformers on the market.

From what I've heard it controls like SMG, and I've played SMG. The controls are shit. ;)

To be fair, they could be better. Shaking to attack isn't very precise, and I'd prefer it if I could play the game on the Classic controller.

Indeed. SMG could have been the best Mario platformer in a long time. All they needed to do was give you the option to press a button instead of waggle.

I should have...tempered my early comment. I'm just very bitter that as a big Mario fan I am physically unable to play what most regard as a fantastic Mario game. But I've harped on that before so I won't do it again.

[Spigot]

Heh. I resisted the urge to get SMG2 for a while too, but I do not regret eventually making the purchase.

And the waggle attack isn't THAT bad. Granted, I don't seem to have the inborn hatred of waggle that many people do, so I'm just odd that way.

[crazyD]

I just seems like a really forced usage of waggle. There really is no reason why the game couldn't support the classic controller, and I was kind of annoyed that it doesn't.

[TheKeck]

The controls are excellent. Why are you physically unable to play it?

[TheKeck]

I just seems like a really forced usage of waggle. There really is no reason why the game couldn't support the classic controller, and I was kind of annoyed that it doesn't.
Ok, the shaking is one thing. But what about aiming? An absolutely critical feature to the game. Then there's flying, walking on that ball, etc. that use the motion controls in other ways.

In other words, no, the game would not function with the classic controller.

[crazyD]

Ok, the shaking is one thing. But what about aiming? An absolutely critical feature to the game. Then there's flying, walking on that ball, etc. that use the motion controls in other ways.

In other words, no, the game would not function with the classic controller.

Why is the aiming critical? So you can pick up pointless collectibles? And the flying, walking, etc. could easily be done with analogue sticks.

[Stoke]

Ok, the shaking is one thing. But what about aiming? An absolutely critical feature to the game. Then there's flying, walking on that ball, etc. that use the motion controls in other ways.

In other words, no, the game would not function with the classic controller.

I remember flying in Super Mario 64 just fine.

I cannot play SMG due to past injuries to both of my wrists. The quick left right shake the attack requires gives me about 20 minutes of play time before I'm in enough pain that I have to stop. I don't have this problem with most Wii games but there's just something about that motion that kills me.

[TheKeck]

Why is the aiming critical? So you can pick up pointless collectibles? And the flying, walking, etc. could easily be done with analogue sticks.
You need aiming to eat things with Yoshi and fire projectiles accurately. You also use aiming to move between gravitational stars in space. You shoot star bits, sometimes in order to collect critical coins during boss fights and such. I'm sure there are other things I'm not recalling off the top of my head.

Controlling the alternate game modes with the analog stick would defeat the purpose. It would just be a pallete swap instead of a new gameplay element. Back to the not stagnant thing.
I remember flying in Super Mario 64 just fine.

I cannot play SMG due to past injuries to both of my wrists. The quick left right shake the attack requires gives me about 20 minutes of play time before I'm in enough pain that I have to stop. I don't have this problem with most Wii games but there's just something about that motion that kills me.
Well, I'm truly sorry to hear about your injury. That sucks. Is there something specific about the "way" you describe shaking the controller that causes a problem? It doesn't have to be the side to side motion you describe; any movement will do. I often use a quick flick forward. Also, I end up spinning if I have to scratch my nose or something. Just a thought.

[Lint of Death]

Aiming is also very important to Co-Star mode, which is quite fun.

[Savok]

While the waggle can be replaced, the aiming and other motion controls can not.

And jesus Stoke, that fucking sucks. I can only suggest relying on starbits to stun enemies and maybe using your elbow or shoulder as opposed to your wrist for the times you do need to waggle. I feel shitty saying this but SMG is the best 3D Mario game ever made.

[crazyD]

You need aiming to eat things with Yoshi and fire projectiles accurately. You also use aiming to move between gravitational stars in space. You shoot star bits, sometimes in order to collect critical coins during boss fights and such. I'm sure there are other things I'm not recalling off the top of my head.

Controlling the alternate game modes with the analog stick would defeat the purpose. It would just be a pallete swap instead of a new gameplay element. Back to the not stagnant thing.

All your reasons for aiming could easily be handled by other functions, and are relatively minor actions in the game.

Personally, I wasn't a fan of the motion controlled alternate game modes to begin with, but again, the classic connects to the remote, and a message could always pop up to switch on the few cases where it is needed.

I'm just saying I'd like the game a lot more if using the classic was an option. I'm not saying that the game shouldn't support the wii remote, but I'd have more fun with it if I could use the classic.

Aiming is also very important to Co-Star mode, which is quite fun.

Which is fine. Second player could use their remote, and first could have the option to use the classic.

[Savok]

To support the classic controller they'd have to strip out of the pointer stuff and that kills a lot of the new stuff.

I've made to the 3rd world, I'd like to say fuck clouds and the cosmics chasing me on them. Any time I do actually complete the star, shitty camera/collision detection kills me. First time I've been angry at a Mario game since Sunshine.

[crazyD]

And I'm saying most of the pointer stuff is unnecessary, and the few things that matter could be easily mapped to buttons.

[Savok]

Have you even used Yoshi? What about blue stars?

[crazyD]

Have you even used Yoshi? What about blue stars?

Aim the character in that direction, and fire. Include a method of cycling through targets. This is easily doable.

And before anyone mentions that this would make the game too easy, keep in mind that we are talking about a game that allows the second player to hold enemies and some hazardous objects in place.

Again, I'm not saying it's a huge deal, and I really dig the game. I'd just enjoy playing it more if I could use the classic. The motion / pointing functions seem a little tacked on, and there just to say the game has them. It seems kind of like the old days of the DS, where every game needed to use both screens, have touch controls, and feature the microphone. I do not enjoy the implementation of these functions in the game, and would prefer it if I wasn't required to use them.

[Savok]

That's like taking Ape Escape and saying "well you don't need these damn analog sticks". You're changing the very heart of it.

Also, I just went through a really trippy water thing, you are partially forgiven Nintendo.

[boratika]

My biggest complaint about the game is the 7-10 days it is currently taking it to get from the UK to here. But I guess that isn't really the games fault.

[Savok]

Why did you wait until now to order it from the UK?

[boratika]

Why did you wait until now to order it from the UK?

Short answer: being a broke-arse.



I only had money to buy it after it was released here. Would have even bought it local, if anywhere had had it in stock when in the first week - when I could have gotten it for as low as $70. But nowhere had it, so I went on the line and purchased it on the line for $63 (shipping included.) I do like this flailing pound.


I also made the wait longer by a few days by forgetting to transfer the money to my debit card account...

[Savok]

Ah, dang.

Well other then learning to hate cosmics you'll find it quite excellent.

[crazyD]

That's like taking Ape Escape and saying "well you don't need these damn analog sticks". You're changing the very heart of it.

Changing the very heart of a small part of the game that I don't really enjoy.

[Gorvi]

Singularitiy Review (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1883-Singularity)

[Savok]

Well that was a savaging.

In other news I'm now 80 stars in, SMG2 keeps getting better... and meaner.

[Narradisall]

Well that was a poor plot twist.

Loved the Human Centipede joke.

[Shieldmaiden]

The problem with a lot of Zero Punctuation "reviews" is that he often completely fails to review the product. That Singularity one was basically him just taking the piss out of a list of complaints about the game. I find him incredibly funny and often right on the mark, but calling what he does reviewing is really stretching it.

[Gorvi]

Yeah, they're very rarely "reviews" but I don't think they're intended to be. It's just a convenient label to throw on them.

[Talanvor]

That was great. The dig at the end about Wolfenstein was absolutely delicious, since Raven made that one too.

[Narradisall]

Yeah, I thought we'd all agreed months back these aren't really 'reviews'.

I gathered what I needed to know though, pointless FPS action, with a odd time twist and predictable story. Pretty much what I was expecting, and that doesn't necessarily mean I won't bargin bin it one day.

[Lint of Death]

That was great. The dig at the end about Wolfenstein was absolutely delicious, since Raven made that one too.

I didn't realize that. Yahtzee is an ace with them zingers.

[Gorvi]

Crackdown 2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1897-Crackdown-2)

[Spigot]

Hah! Basically said everything that I've felt about the game. Except for the kookaburras...

[CES]

Pretty accurate review actually though I'm still having fun with the game. It's not a game that I can sit and play for hours though, which sucks.

[Talanvor]

Limbo and DeathSpank (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1908-DeathSpank-Limbo)

You should be able to guess which one he liked more. Personally I enjoyed the voice acting in DeathSpank so the humorous part of that game was more enjoyable for me.

I haven't bought Limbo, played the demo though and I liked the atmosphere. It's just the length of the game that gets me, maybe I'm being too nitpicky about it.

[Stoke]

Limbo and DeathSpank (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1908-DeathSpank-Limbo)

You should be able to guess which one he liked more. Personally I enjoyed the voice acting in DeathSpank so the humorous part of that game was more enjoyable for me.

I haven't bought Limbo, played the demo though and I liked the atmosphere. It's just the length of the game that gets me, maybe I'm being too nitpicky about it.

How long is Limbo supposed to last? It's only $10 in real monies so it wouldn't have to be too long to justify that purchase if it's good throughout.

[Talanvor]

How long is Limbo supposed to last? It's only $10 in real monies so it wouldn't have to be too long to justify that purchase if it's good throughout.

You sure? I thought it was 1200 points ($15). I've heard it being 2-3 hours long, but I can't say for certain.

[Stoke]

You sure? I thought it was 1200 points ($15). I've heard it being 2-3 hours long, but I can't say for certain.

Ah yeah, for some reason I was thinking 1200=$10. Either way, 2-3 hours isn't really long enough for that price.

[Talanvor]

The easiest way I've found to remember point denominations is 80 points is $1 and 400 is $5.

Thanks for the whole intentional obscuring between real currency and your funny money, Microsoft. Much appreciated!

[Spigot]

Limbo took me about 3 days to finish... which means about, oh, 4-5 hours, tops. I think that now that I have a good idea about what will or won't kill me, I could probably rush through it in about 3 hours.

And it's worth every bloody penny.

[Savok]

Voice acting is why I can't come at Deathspank myself, it's just wrong.

[Spigot]

Isn't it the same voice actor as Captain Quark from R&C?

[Savok]

No that's another dude called Jim Ward.

I could handle Captain Qwark, but Deathspank is such a poor man's Tick I can't stand it. There's a lot of director fail too, sentences didn't flow together properly, not all the actor's fault.

[Squidbot]

I bought Limbo a couple of days ago, and after watching his review my arachnaphobia is making me twitchy.... not looking forwards to it as much now.

[Spigot]

No that's another dude called Jim Ward.

I could handle Captain Qwark, but Deathspank is such a poor man's Tick I can't stand it. There's a lot of director fail too, sentences didn't flow together properly, not all the actor's fault.Huh. It sounded very much like Captain Quark when I played the demo. Ah well.

I bought Limbo a couple of days ago, and after watching his review my arachnaphobia is making me twitchy.... not looking forwards to it as much now.On the one hand, it's not a very BIG part of the game. On the other hand, it is a very, VERY memorable part.

[Savok]

Yeah I wanted to play Limbo myself, but I think I'd be too freaked.

[Gorvi]

Shadow of the Colossus (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1924-Shadow-of-the-Colossus)

[Savok]

Really wish they'd release that on PS3...

[crazyD]

Aren't they supposed to be doing an ICO / SotC release for the PS3?

[Spigot]

Aren't they supposed to be doing an ICO / SotC release for the PS3?

It's usually the first set of PS2 games to be put forward whenever the subject of HD remakes is brought up. One would hope that the lead up to Last Guardian would see a release of an HD remake.

[Gorvi]

I'm hoping for a TGS announcement of the ICO/SotC collection along with some sort of release date for The Last Guardian. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice.

[TheKeck]

How about a PC release? :D

[Talanvor]

What exactly was wrong with Onimusha? I'm a little perplexed by that one. Maybe it was the difficulty that put him off.

Hey if Sly Cooper can get a PS3 collection then I'd say ICO and SotC should get one too. Now if they would just put out a Last Guardian CE with that I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[Xerxes]

What exactly was wrong with Onimusha? I'm a little perplexed by that one. Maybe it was the difficulty that put him off.

Hey if Sly Cooper can get a PS3 collection then I'd say ICO and SotC should get one too. Now if they would just put out a Last Guardian CE with that I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Ditto. I loved Onimusha. The first one that is. I do have intentions to play the other 3.

[Spigot]

I thought there were only 3 Onimushas? I forget... I really, really liked the last one (when he goes to Paris and meets Jean Reno) but I wonder if the reason they aren't necessarily held in as high regard is because, well, there are a lot of games along the same lines... and they weren't first-party releases from Sony, so I wouldn't hold your breath for a set of remakes.

[Talanvor]

I thought there were only 3 Onimushas? I forget... I really, really liked the last one (when he goes to Paris and meets Jean Reno) but I wonder if the reason they aren't necessarily held in as high regard is because, well, there are a lot of games along the same lines... and they weren't first-party releases from Sony, so I wouldn't hold your breath for a set of remakes.

The only reason we were talking about Onimusha is because Yahtzee decided to lump it in with crappy PS2 titles.

Yeah it's not going to get a remake. Capcom might make a new game but who knows really. I'd rather see that instead of Lost Planet 3.

[Xerxes]

It doesn't really need a remake. Sequels maybe. Samanosuke was great, and really should be in the Capcom vs Marvel 3. His weapons had elemental powers for crying out loud.

It was 1-3 Onimusha, and I guess the next in the series was called Onimusha: Dawn Of Dreams. I guess they just left it there.