Ocarina of Time 3DS

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Is there no thread for this?

I searched and couldn't find one, which seems weird. I guess cos everyone's played the actual game a billion times before.

Anyway, I just picked this up and shot through the Deku Tree and am very impressed.

Be warned that the original is my favourite game of all time and I was going to be blindly buying this anyway but this really is a beautiful looking remake.

I had seen the screens and knew it was getting somewhat of a facelift but it really is something else when seen in motion.

It's a big surprise especially as Mercernaries was the opposite for me (looks terrible compared to the promo shots), and I was really mostly just expecting slightly higher res textures but they've spruced up the game in pretty much every way imaginable.

It's really weird, most remakes seem to go to either end of the spectrum, and feel exactly like a clone of the original with prettier graphics, or they screw with the controls/physics significantly so it feels like an entirely different beast, but this one seems to really walk the line right between and it's great.

The controls feel more responsive than ever, the new menu system is GREAT (access to anything with just a couple taps of your thumbs, no more slow pause > cycle to right menu screen > navigate to right block etc) and you have access to 4 sub items + the ocarina at any given time without switching things around in the menu.

The sound is almost entirely identical, but I noticed the Ocarina tone has changed slightly.

The character models look really nice, as do the variety of new facial expressions (Link now has more emotions than just apathy and shock!), and they animate really well and really smoothly. Link's cap blows around behind him and he runs about and his leaps and rolls look quite dramatic. I laughed at lot at Mido's grumpy animation as he stomps off to let you pass through to the Deku tree.

Everything just feels really fresh and shiny and great, but at the same time exactly as the game is "supposed" to look and feel and sound, and I feel right at home with it and cleared the intro of the game in no time at all.

There is a new gimmick to the controls in that you can look around in the real world to control the first person view in game. It is definitely a gimmick but a fairly fun one when used with the slingshot (and I guess bow and arrow/hookshot etc) which actually lets you aim really quickly and accurately. You have to swing your whole body and head around while you do it though, if you're using the 3D. It's also pretty neat in that while you hold L (z targetting) you can use this feature to look slightly in any direction. So, while you're locked on and fighting something ahead of you, you can physically move the DS to your side to pan the camera in that direction and check out what's happening over there.

I can't comment on if they've changed the dialogue at all, as this is my first time playing the Japanese version, but it seems pretty identical so far.

Obviously I'm not far in yet but it really feels like the perfect remake; they changed just enough superficial stuff to make it really shiny and up to snuff against modern titles, but kept everything else exactly as it always has been.

The ONLY THING I can think of which might annoy some people is that I don't think I saw an option at startup to play Master Quest; looks like you might have to finish the game once to unlock it. I'll confirm that later but if you have played the original game to death and were planning on picking this up just for MQ, that's a pretty solid time investment you have to put in first to get access to what you want.

[Widgetcraft]

There is no thread about this because most of us don't have it yet, it doesn't come out int he U.S. for three more days.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Right, but most games (especially big and/or Nintendo ones) have a thread up weeks or months ahead of launch (usually thanks to EvAv Novice!), so I was worried I had missed one.

Also, just to confirm, there's no option to start Master Quest yet, looks like you do have to go through the game once first. I was planning to play the original game first so it's fine for me but I can definitely see this being a nuisance for some people. I mean the original game usually takes me a minimum of 12 hours per play through and I know it like the back of my hand.

[Cyndair]

Thanks for writing your impressions, Lon Lon. OOT is my favorite game as well, so I'm really looking forward to this when it releases on Sunday. I fired up the original yesterday to tinker around a bit, and after watching videos of the 3DS version, it really is remarkable how much they've done to it graphically (especially Link's model). Kudos to Nintendo for doing it right and not just sticking a rom on a 3DS cart.

[Satertek]

Will be picking it up from Gamestop on Sunday!

The only pre-order bonus it had going for it was some tiny poster, so I'm diappointed in that, but Club Nintendo is giving away a soundtrack (https://club.nintendo.com/ocarina_of_time_3d_soundtrack_offer.do) that more than makes up for the fact.

[KamaItachi]

Another 2 weeks for us. I'm still debating grabbing the orcarina version.

[Blue]

Thanks for the impressions. Really looking forward to getting my hands on it Sunday. I've actually never beaten OOT - got to the Water Temple and got angry and stopped right when it came out and never revisited. Hopefully I can remedy that.

[Widgetcraft]

Will be picking it up from Gamestop on Sunday!

The only pre-order bonus it had going for it was some tiny poster, so I'm diappointed in that, but Club Nintendo is giving away a soundtrack (https://club.nintendo.com/ocarina_of_time_3d_soundtrack_offer.do) that more than makes up for the fact.

I'm betting those run out nearly instantly. Since I won't be picking my game up until Sunday morning (rather than at midnight), I'm not holding out much hope for it.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Woah.

Goron-boob jiggle physics.

You have been warned.

Started noticing some of the newer stuff too, there's oversized stones of truth you can crawl into and watch video hints for pretty much every puzzle in the game. Pretty neat for anyone new to the game and not familiar with video game logic, I guess. They're almost a ghetto achievement system in a way as they get ticked off as you solve various puzzles in the game or do random tasks like catch a fairy in a bottle.

There's also tonnes of really nice details added all over the place. Anju's house in Kakariko, for example, has these drawings littered everywhere which hint at the items you get later in the game. There's posters all over town walls, relevant plaques in front of the different shops and cute cavemen like scribbles all over goron city.

The original had so many cool details and easter eggs and they seem to have only increased them. A few have been changed, too, like the mario/yoshi portraits inside Hyrule Castle which are now a large mural of a super mario level instead.

Just got sucked into Jabu Jabu and it's looking grosser than ever.

[Purple Santa]

My gaming budget is limited so I only rented it for now. I can't wait for it to come in the mail though. Lon Lon, you are making the wait for this game harder.

[Mike Kelehan]

I'll get this when I get a 3DS, and probably have fun with it... but it would be a system seller for me if they added an extra dungeon or something. As it is, it's a prettier version of the best game ever. When Super Mario 64 went on the DS, they added 30 more stars. Why not a little extra here, aside from interface tweaks and boss rush?

I'm betting those run out nearly instantly. Since I won't be picking my game up until Sunday morning (rather than at midnight), I'm not holding out much hope for it.

I'm betting Nintendo is printing up a TON of them. Remember when Super Mario All-Stars was limited? They just did another printing.

[Joshkdmw]

I'll get this when I get a 3DS, and probably have fun with it... but it would be a system seller for me if they added an extra dungeon or something. As it is, it's a prettier version of the best game ever. When Super Mario 64 went on the DS, they added 30 more stars. Why not a little extra here, aside from interface tweaks and boss rush?



I'm betting Nintendo is printing up a TON of them. Remember when Super Mario All-Stars was limited? They just did another printing.

Well, this iteration includes the "master quest" version, which includes entirely retooled and harder dungeons. So there are essentially like, 10 new dungeons, if you haven't played the master quest version before.

So there's that.

[frederec]

I saw this for sale at a store in the mall today. I guess they're selling it a little early. I'll wait for my copy from amazon. Hopefully they won't run out of the soundtracks too quickly.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Argh, friendly reminder to SAVE FREQUENTLY.

I pressed the home button to check the time and one of those shop channel presents popped up and it shut my game. Actually it might not have shut it at first, but it sure looked like it did so I installed the present which DEFINITELY shut it. My fault either way for not saving though.

Lost everything from start of adult link to the end of the forest temple.

You still have to save manually in this game, so do so every time you sleep the DS or something.

Still noticing lots of neat small details, for example some basic enemies have slightly different attacks now.

Enjoy the game everyone, and let's get some boss rush time competitions going!

[Mike Kelehan]

Well, this iteration includes the "master quest" version, which includes entirely retooled and harder dungeons. So there are essentially like, 10 new dungeons, if you haven't played the master quest version before.

So there's that.

But I have played it before. I preordered Wind Waker, and got the Ocarina of Time bonus disc. So, just boss rush, then.

[Zero]

I'm gonna try to get it at midnight from Walmart, but I fully expect them to fuck me like they did with the Transformers: Dark Of The Moon toys.

[Widgetcraft]

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[Mike Kelehan]

Wait... so B is sword, A is context sensitive, and items are mapped to X, Y, L, and R. What button do you push to target? What about raising your shield?

[Joshkdmw]

Wait... so B is sword, A is context sensitive, and items are mapped to X, Y, L, and R. What button do you push to target? What about raising your shield?

You yell "shield"really loud.

[Widgetcraft]

Wait... so B is sword, A is context sensitive, and items are mapped to X, Y, L, and R. What button do you push to target? What about raising your shield?

The guy in the video says "front buttons" but I have no fucking clue as to what he could be referring to.

EDIT: Here we go. (http://www.zeldadungeon.net/2011/06/ocarina-of-time-3d-manual-scans-and-packaging/)

[Squidbot]

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[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Wait... so B is sword, A is context sensitive, and items are mapped to X, Y, L, and R. What button do you push to target? What about raising your shield?

Items are X, Y, "I" and "II".

I and II are two squares in the top and bottom right corners of the touch screen respectively. Not the best buttons for something like the megaton hammer but works great for quick use things like bombs/deku nuts.

Shield is R, L is target.

Just finished the fire temple. A few weapons work very slightly differently too I noticed. Very minor stuff like the boomerang will now insta-return if you press it again mid flight, so you're not stuck defenseless strafing around if you miss completely.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Oh wow they've made the water temple much easier.

There's lines on the wall and diagrams showing you where/how much the water can be raised/lowered, and there's a big zoom shot on the hidden room with that one small key that stumps most people.

This is WITHOUT even checking out the video hints.

Probably a good thing, it's the most hated temple (but I felt super satisfied figuring it out myself after being stumped on that damn key the first time).

They've also fixed a bunch of bugs/exploits, like being able to leap to the top level controls in the water temple from the main room.

[Mike Kelehan]

Items are X, Y, "I" and "II".

I and II are two squares in the top and bottom right corners of the touch screen respectively. Not the best buttons for something like the megaton hammer but works great for quick use things like bombs/deku nuts.

Shield is R, L is target.

I like it.

[Bone]

You yell "shield"really loud.

Nobody bit at this one? I lol'd.

[Joshkdmw]

Nobody bit at this one? I lol'd.

Well, there IS a mic on the 3ds, so I figured...

[Zero]

Yeah, Walmart fucked me. The clerk who was stocking electronics assured me that games only come out on Tuesday and then looked up on his computer that he had 0 in-stock. So I guess I'll head there at 8 a.m. to find the game sitting in the cabinets.

[Pale Ale]

Oh wow they've made the water temple much easier.

There's lines on the wall and diagrams showing you where/how much the water can be raised/lowered, and there's a big zoom shot on the hidden room with that one small key that stumps most people.

This is WITHOUT even checking out the video hints.

Probably a good thing, it's the most hated temple (but I felt super satisfied figuring it out myself after being stumped on that damn key the first time).

They've also fixed a bunch of bugs/exploits, like being able to leap to the top level controls in the water temple from the main room.

WHAT!?! Back in my day...

[Zero]

On the back of the box it says that have you to beat the main game to get Master Quest. The soundtrack CD will start shipping July 5th, allow 1-2 weeks for delivery.

[Widgetcraft]

Yeah, Walmart fucked me. The clerk who was stocking electronics assured me that games only come out on Tuesday and then looked up on his computer that he had 0 in-stock. So I guess I'll head there at 8 a.m. to find the game sitting in the cabinets.

It definitely came out today, but of the two Wal-marts I checked, only one had it.

[quidmonkey]

Got my copy! So very excited to be playing this again. Character models look fantastic!

[Blue]

Just finished up the Deku Tree. Great so far.

[Satertek]

Alright so Club Nintendo's site is a piece of crap. A word of warning, after you register the game there, do not touch your computer. Apparently a dialog is supposed to appear and ask you to accept the soundtrack offer. I never saw it and there's no way to get back to it.

Tons of people are having the same problem, Nintendo's phone line is the busiest it's ever been, impossible to get through. I send them an e-mail on their support site, hopefully that'll do the job.

Just ridiculous the way they have it set up like that though.


As to the game, I got screwed by Amazon. I ordered one copy from them and one copy from Gamestop. Amazon now says it won't get here till Wednesday (when I thought it would be release day shipping and get it Monday), they won't let me cancel it either so I went ahead and gave my Gamestop copy to my sister, whom I intended to give the Amazon copy to tomorrow.................hopefullly I'll get to play it sometime this week.

[Zero]

It's not a dialog box that appears, it re-directs you immediately after you click finish on the registration to the rewards page where you select what address to ship it to. That sucks that so many people are having problems, but there was nothing ridiculous about how they have it set up.

[Widgetcraft]

It redirected me back to my To Do List.

[Satertek]

It's not a dialog box that appears, it re-directs you immediately after you click finish on the registration to the rewards page where you select what address to ship it to. That sucks that so many people are having problems, but there was nothing ridiculous about how they have it set up.

Except that it didn't, so it is is ridiculous. Because there's no way to get back to it. There should be a link on the registered games page next to Ocarina of Time, or on the offer page when it detects you have the game registered, to change your reward status.

(Nintendo support number still "receiving a high volume of calls" doesn't even put you in a queue, hopefully my e-mail will do the trick. If not there's still my 2nd copy coming Tuesday or Wednesday...)

Edit: Finally got an e-mail from them. Looks like they're giving it to everyone who registers by tonight...sucks for the people who only ordered from Amazon.

[Suave Peanut]

My girlfriend is amazing and gave this to me today.

I'll be back to read the thread after I've gotten to play some.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Just finished this off, the ending credits now have a sweet fully orchestrated Zelda medley with them. I guess that's what's on the CD.

[evilgoodwin]

Sweetness.

Now to wait for Majora's Mask (never thought I'd ever say that until I finally beat it last year).

Oh, and I need money so I can buy this. And a 3DS.

[muddi900]

Is there any news on a Majora's Mask port? Because that is the only game in the series that matters to me

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

They've done half the work, now, considering it reuses so many assets from OoT.

[Satertek]

Satertek's List of Nitpicks:

>When the Deku Tree dies, the color doesn't "flow" upwards.

>Navi's messages are even more annoying, couldn't they have had it blink only on the bottom screen?

>When Link looks through the window in Zelda's garden and Ganndorf looks at him, it looks retarded as he opens his mouth and goes :D as he looks over.

>I have to hold the DS nearly upside down (turned ~120 degree to the left) to play the ocarina.

[Widgetcraft]

>I have to hold the DS nearly upside down (turned ~120 degree to the left) to play the ocarina.

Uhh... why? I'm with you on the Navi thing, though. There should be a way to turn her off, really.

[ClannerDelta]

Uhh... why? I'm with you on the Navi thing, though. There should be a way to turn her off, really.

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This track got me nostalgic because of the Navi part, I couldn't remember why I hated her so much. Playing this again has brought it back full force.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Uhh... why?

I think he's actually holding it like an Ocarina, to roleplay.

[Satertek]

Uhh... why? I'm with you on the Navi thing, though. There should be a way to turn her off, really.


So I don't have to relearn the songs. From that angle the buttons are roughly in the same position as on the N64 controller. (X, A, Y :: C-Left, C-Up, C-Right)

[Joshkdmw]

So I don't have to relearn the songs. From that angle the buttons are roughly in the same position as on the N64 controller. (X, A, Y :: C-Left, C-Up, C-Right)

They're not exactly hard to play either way. You punch I six to right notes in your own time and he plays the song FOR you.

[Satertek]

They're not exactly hard to play either way. You punch I six to right notes in your own time and he plays the song FOR you.

It's not about the difficulty it's the experience. Feels wrong to play different buttons for the same song.

And maybe you play in your own time but I'd have trouble with that :p

[Joshkdmw]

It's not about the difficulty it's the experience. Feels wrong to play different buttons for the same song.

And maybe you play in your own time but I'd have trouble with that :p

Don't you come at MY rhythm, motherfucker, my timing is unassailable! :p

I guess it is a little different, though. Like Ganon's big nose in 3d coming right at you. Shnoz city, ahoy!

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Just got the CD in the mail today, it's neat but I already owned the original game's OST so it's exactly the same plus only one extra track, which is:

the cool orchestral medley you get during the end credits of the 3DS version.

The insert has some kinda neat glossy art too I guess, but otherwise there's not really anything new or special here as far as these things go, so don't feel too bad if you missed out!

Did those NOA club nintendo kinks get worked out in the end though?

[KamaItachi]

Got my copy today. Let's see what all the fuss was about

[Shjinta]

This fucking game is sold out every where in Cornwall. So here I wait. I don't want to order it online since I traded in LA Snore for it.

[Blue]

I'm finding I can only play the game on mute. And even then seeing NAVI NAVI NAVI NAVI NAVI flash eighty times across the screen is enough to make me want to switch it off. Good god.

[Joshkdmw]

I'm finding I can only play the game on mute. And even then seeing NAVI NAVI NAVI NAVI NAVI flash eighty times across the screen is enough to make me want to switch it off. Good god.

That's what we call being true to the source material, fella. That's the true Zelda experience is being pissed off by Navi.

[Abednigo]

Since I don't have a 3DS, and really have no desire to get one just for OoT 3D, I downloaded it on the VC and played a bit last night, going through the Deku Tree and meeting Zelda in Hyrule Castle. While it's not as pretty as the 3DS version, it's cleaned up enough to be really nice to play even after all these years. Sure it's a bit blurry, and the classic controller takes some getting used to, but it's still fun. Maybe I should start a thread for those of us getting our Zelda fix some other way. ;)

[aVaKus]

I made it thru the Forest Temple last night. I had forgotten how much I loved the Phantom Ganon fight. I noticed that the directional audio really helped with determining which painting he would leap from. It was only from that painting you could hear the horse's gallop.

[Lon Lon Rabbit]

Here's a fun thing; play that fight with motion controls on, in an office swivel chair.

[aVaKus]

Here's a fun thing; play that fight with motion controls on, in an office swivel chair.

If I get fired for doing this at work, I'm coming after you. :p

[Shjinta]

So I finally got my copy. I must say, this is one fucking impressive looking game. So far having a blast.