The Comic Thread

[bryan]

Well it's interesting to note out of four comics they've listed two are by Mark Millar, and it's well established he likes to inject hyperviolence in for attention. This indicates to me that there isn't a sudden wave of hyperviolent creater owned comics. Not to mention the fact that Wanted was released years ago, and so was the original Kick-Ass.

I'm sure the people that created this comic know this, so I'm leaning towards this being tongue-in-cheek.

[Xerxes]

<shrug> My point WAS I'd take one issue of Eat A Dick please.

[bryan]

<shrug> My point WAS I'd take one issue of Eat A Dick please.

Maybe as a one-shot it'd be interesting. :)

[Xerxes]

They had me at knife wielding panda.

[Ink Asylum]

I think by "aggressive" they mean aggressive toward the reader. I know that Wanted basically ends with a big "you suck" speech to the reader.

[bryan]

Sorry tongue-in-cheek was directed at the Gutters creators, not you Xerxes. Might not have been terribly clear...

Ink Asylum, I just don't see it. And Wanted as I note above isn't a great example as it was released nearly a decade ago (I feel old).

[muddi900]

I think by "aggressive" they mean aggressive toward the reader. I know that Wanted basically ends with a big "you suck" speech to the reader.

Wanted ends with Mark Millar masturbating.

[muddi900]

Oni rereleasin Scott Pilgrim in color http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/03/eccc-oni-announces-full-color-version-of-scott-pilgrim/

[Ink Asylum]

That's pretty awesome. I'll probably wait until the entire color series is released as one set.

[Psykoboy2]

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[muddi900]

That joke has been beaten to death.

[Urizen]

That joke has been beaten to death.

Funny don't lie.

[muddi900]

I am on my piss speed GPRS, so I can't really watch yhose, but after th 133rd rendition of *Shit X says*, it stops being original.

[muddi900]

James Stoke, of Orc Stain, is doing a Godzilla mini-series for IDW;
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/03/31/james-stokoe-godzilla-idw/

I am finally interested in Godzilla.

[muddi900]

Rob Liefeld, being Liefeld again:

“The Hipsters don’t know what to do when I draw feet. It confuses them.”

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/04/quote-of-the-day-rob-liefeld-1-hipsters-0/

EDIT:

Also, Becky Cloonan's illustrated Dracula is out
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/04/becky-cloonan-illustrates-new-edition-of-dracula/

[Xerxes]

Don't ever change Rob. (Full production of muddi's Rob comment.)

“The Hipsters don’t know what to do when I draw feet. It confuses them.”

– Rob Liefeld, following the release of DC Comics’ solicitations for July, which include his covers for
The Savage Hawkman #11, Deathstroke #11, and Grifter #11. Characters’ feet are visible in all three images.

Grifter:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/dccomics/201207/dcu/GRIF_Cv11.jpg

Deathstroke:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/dccomics/201207/dcu/DSK_Cv11.jpg

Hawkman:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/dccomics/201207/dcu/SAVHKM_Cv11.jpg

[Ghostbear]

That's easily some of Liefeld's best work in years. Not that the books are that amazing.

[Xerxes]

He worked on those feet for months.

[Ink Asylum]

It's nice of him to learn how to draw feet after over 20 years drawing comics.

[Xerxes]

Oh shit! This motherfucker is so proud today.

On the average day, Liefeld uses 14 exclamation points. So far today he has used 43.
-http://www.excitableliefeld.com/

[J Arcane]

So who's read Fear Agent? It seems relevant to my interests.

[DoctorFinger]

Fear Agent is great, great stuff. It suffered a little towards the end from a sporatic schedule, but it's a fantastic sci-fi book. But like all Rick Remender stuff, it's a bit grim and depressing. Still great though.

[muddi900]

Savok had. I almost tried it, but then I read Remender's other stuff and was left severely unimpressed.

[ShivaX]

It's nice of him to learn how to draw feet after over 20 years drawing comics.

Ah, but has he seen a naked woman yet?

[muddi900]

This Doom meme on reddit has unearthed some fantastic stuff:

http://i.imgur.com/BN7xx.jpg

[muddi900]

http://i.imgur.com/yqpNW.jpg

[DoctorFinger]

Was that from McDuffie's Damage Control?

[Xerxes]

Icon and Rocket in the new episode of Young Justice was pretty cool. This would have been a great promotion for Static too. Although I guess it wouldn't have helped his crummy comic book not be crummy.

[muddi900]

Was that from McDuffie's Damage Control?

I just copied that from reddit.

[muddi900]

cross-post:

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[muddi900]

Fraction and Aja are reuniting for Hawkeye:
http://ifanboy.com/articles/c2e2-2012-fraction-aja-let-fly-with-new-hawkeye-solo-series/

If you haven't read their previous outing, Immortal Iron Fist, you should, it was fantastic.

Also, Powers relaunching as Powers: FBI

http://ifanboy.com/articles/c2e2-2012-powers-fbi-from-bendis-oeming/

[Xerxes]

cross-post:

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-_- This wasn't good. But could easily work.

Also, I have ALWAYS hated, "Static Shock". The name of it. It's like if they wanted to do a Hulk cartoon and they started calling it Hulk Smash. And then everything after that, even new comics get slapped with the title Hulk Smash. It's just HULK. That's it. Smash, or Shock in this case, is just a byproduct sub name. Who the fuck at Warner Bros. Animation came up with that.

Also his costumes have gotten worse and worse with each redesign. So the guys costume in the movie is proper evolution I think. :(

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/198866-70394-static_super.jpg
to
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/629456-terti_3_22_super.jpg
to
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/09/scottmcdaniel-staticshock-01.jpg
Granted he did have a oversized orange robe for a while... (I didn't find it all that bad.
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/static2.jpg

Now if they wanted a reboot, maybe the original costume with the coat from second, Teen Titans (comic) / "Static Shock" (tv) jacket. Basic dark blue skin suit with a lighting bolt is simple and close to what Spider-Man wears. There are several similarities there already. WB could probably make more money than they did with that Green Lantern movie

[J Arcane]

http://i.imgur.com/OznuY.jpg

[Xerxes]

I thought Wolverine quit drinking, or was that just cigars?

[muddi900]

-_- This wasn't good. But could easily work.

Also, I have ALWAYS hated, "Static Shock". The name of it. It's like if they wanted to do a Hulk cartoon and they started calling it Hulk Smash. And then everything after that, even new comics get slapped with the title Hulk Smash. It's just HULK. That's it. Smash, or Shock in this case, is just a byproduct sub name. Who the fuck at Warner Bros. Animation came up with that.

Also his costumes have gotten worse and worse with each redesign. So the guys costume in the movie is proper evolution I think. :(

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/198866-70394-static_super.jpg
to
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/629456-terti_3_22_super.jpg
to
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/09/scottmcdaniel-staticshock-01.jpg
Granted he did have a oversized orange robe for a while... (I didn't find it all that bad.
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/static2.jpg

Now if they wanted a reboot, maybe the original costume with the coat from second, Teen Titans (comic) / "Static Shock" (tv) jacket. Basic dark blue skin suit with a lighting bolt is simple and close to what Spider-Man wears. There are several similarities there already. WB could probably make more money than they did with that Green Lantern movie

I think the costume changes were due to the fact that he looked exactly like black lightning.

[Xerxes]

Static's "Static Shock" cartoon look forward looked like Black Lighting. His original costume was fine. Maybe that was the thing. WB really wanted a Black Lighting cartoon. O_o

[muddi900]

So I am caught up with Young Justice and I can't believe they turned Sportsmaster into a badass. SPORTSMASTER! (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Lawrence_Crock_%28New_Earth%29)


Also, read The Sixth Gun. It's like the book you wanted Jonah Hex to be.

[bryan]

Young Justice is great, as is the Avengers cartoon. I think these sorta type of cartoons have had a sort of revival over the last few years. Any I shouldn't miss?

[DoctorFinger]

The new Thundercats is great. The Ultimate Spider-Man is a bit different - much more focused on comedy - but also fun.

[bryan]

Oh yeah following Thundercats as well. Any slightly older shows I might have missed out on?

[DoctorFinger]

That's pretty much it for younger-skewing shows. More mature themed shows like Archer and Venture Bros are beyond amazing.

[muddi900]

Legend of Korra. I did not like the first episode of the Avengers show. Did it get any better?

[DoctorFinger]

it gets better. It has some lackluster moments but some great ones too

[Xerxes]

You know, I thought it got much better.

[bryan]

Yeah it felt incredibly bland first few episodes, but really picked up. Maybe we're just sick of prison breakout stories.

[muddi900]

Also, try Batman Brave and The Bold. Greatest Show Ever.

[muddi900]

Chris Roberson leaves DC:
http://i.imgur.com/VlHuB.png

He cites this editorial as a reason:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/18/creator-rights-before-watchmen-avengers-moore-kirby/

Warning: It repeats the facts about Watchmen and Jack Kirby that have been repeated a million times, but in a concise manner.

[DoctorFinger]

So far Avengers vs X-Men has been.... pretty much exactly what I thought it would be. Namely Civil War II, complete with very off characterizations. I love all of the writers involved with it, but it requires Cap and Cyclops to act so out of character that I get pulled out of the experience.

[muddi900]

There is only one time a weekly/biweekly event has been truly successful; 52. And it was a happy accident!

[bryan]

I'm curious what are your guys pull list?

[muddi900]

Here is mine:
http://ifanboy.com/users/muddi900/comics/

Also, DC will ship Zero issues for all New 52 titles in September.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/19/dc-comics-launch-zero-issues-for-september/

Ah, 90's, it's so good to meet you again

[Xerxes]

Going from muddi's website.
This week:
VENOM #16
IRREDEEMABLE #36

Last Week:
SCARLET SPIDER #4
CARNAGE U.S.A. #5

[Deadend]

Here is mine:
http://ifanboy.com/users/muddi900/comics/

Also, DC will ship Zero issues for all New 52 titles in September.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/19/dc-comics-launch-zero-issues-for-september/

Ah, 90's, it's so good to meet you again

Fuck, wow, I mean, we joked and mocked for DC for pretending that it was 1992 , but this... this is just a step too stupid.

I also went reading around on the Roberson getting flipped off by DC, and the.. interesting responses from other creators, I got a feeling that many creator owned Vertigo books may be leaving Vertigo because of the attitude of main-DC.

Marvel is just as bad, and I'm somewhat shocked that none of the creators over there have spoken up about how with one hand Disney/Marvel is fistfucking over the older creatives while the other hand is always pushing for stronger IP for companies.

But the main thing I keep taking away is that JM Strazinsky is a fucking asshole. I will quit both the DC and Marvel universes until they give the respect to the people who built their empires.

[muddi900]

Ever since the corporate integration and Levitz, Vertigo writers have less rights with merchandising. But DC still has the best distribution and you still get paid regardless of sales, so writers will stick to it. What has happened is Kirkman. He has been able to attract great talent in the past year to Image, partly because of his TV success, partly because he knows what creators want.

Marvel has been a lot better at treating talent since Joe Q took over all those years ago. The reason almost every major breakout has signed with them. The reason Waid and Rucka are kicking ass there.

[J Arcane]

If only I didn't hate the Marvel 'verse.

[muddi900]

There are individual books you can follow without wikipedia.

[J Arcane]

It's not following storylines that bothers me, it's the characters.

I grew up on the DC characters, they're who I know. Sure, I watched X-Men and Spiderman cartoons as a kid, but frankly I never got that attached to the characters.

I wanna read about Batman, and the Justice League, and those guys.

[muddi900]

Start with an obscure charcater, like Hercules. (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hercules-Vol-Love-War/dp/0785132465/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1335044168&sr=8-4)

It's funny and clever.

[Xerxes]

I found I had a thing for Spider-Man books that's not Spider-Man. I did read Spider-Island though.

[muddi900]

The prologue Brian Wood's Massive is free for Earth Day. https://digital.darkhorse.com/browse/215/

[muddi900]

Top Shelf is doing a sale on their digital comics:
http://www.topshelfcomix.com/news/818

[muddi900]

http://i.imgur.com/FVnMT.jpg

[muddi900]

Remember kiddies, Free comic book day is this weekend.

http://www.freecomicbookday.com/Home/1/1/27/981

[Xerxes]

Sounds like a reason for Dr. Dinosaur! ^_^

OMG
Atomic Robo + Dr. Dinosaur = Team Up

Is Comixology doing this to?

I think I just broke the laws of laziness with that one.

[muddi900]

Digital vendors have no reason to do FCBD, but FCBD comics are CC licensed, so you can download online. Archaia is giving away a whole hardcover.

[KSmitty]

Sounds like a reason for Dr. Dinosaur! ^_^

OMG


Is Comixology doing this to?

I think I just broke the laws of laziness with that one.

Even if they aren't doing free they have half off sales there a lot, and sometimes on some good books. That'll probably be my go to store when I finally buy a kindle fire/tablet.

[BLeeP]

Even if they aren't doing free they have half off sales there a lot, and sometimes on some good books. That'll probably be my go to store when I finally buy a kindle fire/tablet.

It has been mine for awhile now. Lost most/all of my comics in a flood recently and realized how pointless it is to keep the things around. So much more convenient to go digital. The only problem you will have is availability. DC's new stuff isn't an issue, and Marvel is pretty good but then dumb things like them taking nearly a year to get Daredevil Vol. 3 out digitally, so you have things like that which may hinder your enjoyment. Some companies aren't on board with Comixology right now, as well. The biggest one I miss is Avatar.

[muddi900]

Digital comics still look like ass, unless you have the latest iPad.

[BLeeP]

Digital comics still look like ass, unless you have the latest iPad.

Look as good as print on my PC and even better on my Asus Transformer (thanks, Xerxes!). Only time I find it gets awkward is splash pages, and that is such a minor issue I find it kind of silly for me to even mention it, but, welp, here we are.

[muddi900]

I think the term you are looking for tolerable. Shoddily scanned low resolution jpegs are not even close. Pirated comics, especially newer scans, still come out ahead.

[BLeeP]

I think the term you are looking for tolerable.

I think what I was looking for is what I said. Nice argument bait, though. :cool:

[Xerxes]

Yeah, I never got muddi's argument. Looks fine enough for means just that. Would crisper resolution be nice sure. But it's not something to sweat.

[DoctorFinger]

AvX 3 was the most talky, least fighty issue yet and it was also the best, although still not great.

Earth 2 was good, but more or less what I expected. Taking the core JSA characters and putting them in a context both modern and classic: the middle of a major war.

Daredevil was great as always. Waid may be an ass at times online, but he's one of the best, most consistent writers out there today.

[muddi900]

Daredevil was great as always. Waid may be an ass at times online, but he's one of the best, most consistent writers out there today.

His other current work is quite terrible. I lapsed on Irredeemable, went back and it's as if something changed. The book I was reading felt worse than the one I used to read. So I went back and read all the old issues...it has always been terrible.

Also, check out his new web comics, Insufferable,
http://www.thrillbent.com/project/insufferable-001/

Similar to Irredeemable and Incorruptible, this is a What if Robin was a dick? concept. Same problem; I don't give a damn about any of those characters, and the comic-booky twist is rather...comic-booky.

Yeah, I never got muddi's argument. Looks fine enough for means just that. Would crisper resolution be nice sure. But it's not something to sweat.

Actually, he said that it was as good as print, which is not possible since most screens do not even reproduce color correctly, even the high-end ones in tablets. That has been the deal with all digital video; lossy mp3's replacing CDs, compressed streaming video with stereo audio in place of DVDs and Static, linear ebooks that beak down at actual annotations. Also:

Comixology:
http://i.imgur.com/0MtxF.jpg

Pirated comic:
http://i.imgur.com/fptsu.jpg

That's forgetting the fact that I can't even scroll horizontally using the arrow-keys.

Which reminds me, is Grant Morrison really writing Action Comics?

[J Arcane]

http://i.imgur.com/XFgWk.png

[muddi900]

http://i.imgur.com/XFgWk.png

Mark Millar can't help himself!

[muddi900]

Remember that time Wolverine met Freddie Mercury? (http://struthersneil.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/wolverine-meets-freddie-mercury.html#8033925205471251793)

[DoctorFinger]

As usual, the best part of FCBD is the Atomic Robo Dr. Dinosaur story. It wasn't the best Dr Dinosaur story ever, but it was still the highlight of my week. I love that Clevenger & Wegna keep him from getting over exposed, but his few appearances are all gold.

[muddi900]

Sweet tooth is ending in December, with issue 40:
http://ifanboy.com/articles/sweet-tooth-to-end-with-issue-40-in-december/

[Psykoboy2]

http://i.imgur.com/A0bIK.jpg

[muddi900]

Comixology is having a sale on Avengers comics, mostly Busiek run:
http://www.comixology.com/Avengers-Sale/comics-collection/370

Also a sale on Fables for the 10th anniversary:
http://www.comixology.com/Fables-10th-Anniversary-Sale/comics-collection/371

The first two years of Jack of Fables are hilarious!

[bryan]

Just bought all of Fables. 100 over bucks! I pirated it before and loved it, so finally gonna give the creators their due.

[muddi900]

So Young Justice; Blaqua Lad is evil now because fuck you that's why!

[Xerxes]

So Young Justice; Blaqua Lad is evil now because fuck you that's why!

That was a big wtf.

[DoctorFinger]

They explained it sort of, but it was out of left field. I actually thought that was how they'd bring in Wally; have him go nuts after Artemis is KIA.

[muddi900]

The new Aqualad before the reboot was also Black Manta's son, but I liked Kaldur! Fuck is this noise!

It's like Justice League Unlimited but with terrible writing!

EDIT:
Also, Black Manta is calls himself Black Manta not because of his silly costume, but because of he is Black. I mean if you are a Black metahuman with a secret identity, it must start with Black right?

[DoctorFinger]

If you were created PC (Pre-Cyborg), then pretty much, yeah you do have to include Black in the name.

[muddi900]

And people think Black Adam is racist?

Also, did we ever see Manta's face before the rebiot?

[Xerxes]

Black manta has been black for while now.

[DoctorFinger]

when he was created Black Adam was very... Swarthy. Back then that qualified you as black in some quarters.

and Black Manta was black before even the first Crisis. In fact he's been a black supremacist for a while now.

[DoctorFinger]

An interview with Jim Zub (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=38669) talks about the pretty damn cool revelation in Skullkickers #14. Skullkickers has quickly joined Atomic Robo and Chew as my most anticipated books every month.

[muddi900]

Watchmen Babies in V for Vacation (http://www.shopdcentertainment.com/product/v+for+vendetta+vinyl+pop+figure+vfvfnmini.do?sortb y=ourPicks&from=Search)

[DoctorFinger]

I'll have to try and scan a page, but one of the shorts in the new Atomic Robo anthology is a team up with the Team Fortress crew. And it's awesome.

[muddi900]

Fuck it! I am binging on Atomic Robo this weekend, I am way behind!

[muddi900]

James Stokoe has a kickstarter for his new Baseball/Horror book (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1940696606/sullivans-sluggers-baseball-horror-graphic-novel)...It has already done thrice it's target. Then I read that the book is exclusive for Kickstarter backers. $10 gets you a PDF, $30 gets you a sexy hardcover.

[Xerxes]

when he was created Black Adam was very... Swarthy. Back then that qualified you as black in some quarters.

and Black Manta was black before even the first Crisis. In fact he's been a black supremacist for a while now.

Sweet Christmas!

[muddi900]

Dr. Dinosaur has a twitter: (https://twitter.com/#!/Dr_Dinosaur)
http://i.imgur.com/3Efog.png

[DoctorFinger]

Batcow. This is a thing.

[muddi900]

Wait what?

Also, MTV speculates that the DC's newOld gay character is Alan Scott:
http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/05/22/green-lantern-gay/

[DoctorFinger]

Wait what?

From this week's Batman Inc., the character find of the century.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4i13cKaho1qlva78o1_1280.jpg

As for the DC gay character, I saw a great theory: Ozymandias. He's borderline iconic after the movie, you have Before Watchmen coming out soon, and he was implied as being gay in the original. It would allow DC to satisfy the publicity needs without actually making an extant DCU character gay.

[Xerxes]

This is so stupid. It's like announcing we just made a new black and/or hispanic character. Which Marvel kind of did with Myles Morales.

It's like they can't move comics with out announcing something they perceive as drastic. Didn't they do all this when they announced gay Montoya and gay Batwoman?

Don't see Scarlet Spider's gay sidekicks getting media attention. Although I do think Marvel has a gay wedding going down somewhere. So I guess they not immune to drumming up publicity.

My thing is do you think homosexuals are about to run out to the stores in droves to by Green Lantern just cause, hey he's gay now? O_o

And fuck Damien.

[muddi900]

To be fair, Didio was answering a question. He was asked about why when so many aspects of the characters have changed in the reboot, why not sexual orientation? He said they have decided it will happen. DC has not otherwise made a big deal out of it, like the Northstar's wedding. It's either Alan Scott or Wally West. They are the only iconic characters that haven't made an appearance

EDIT: The Batcow even has a cowl.

[muddi900]

Now Bleeding Cool says it's Alan Scott:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/24/will-dcs-original-green-lantern-alan-scott-be-reintroduced-as-a-gay-man/

[muddi900]

Muke Mignola's tribute to Dark Horse Comiccs:
http://i.imgur.com/WoJf5.jpg

[DoctorFinger]

That's f'n brilliant.

[muddi900]

Another reason to hate on digital comics. I was looking at the comixology versions of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, since I still can't find any trades and there aren't any decent scans online, and they looked a little off, so I looked around and came across:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/spinach-gunk/SW31comparison.jpg

Basically now they are letting interns recolor books too. I'll hunt for trades locally

EDIT:
I think digital comics are going through growing pains, like those early shoddy transfers on DVDs and Blurays. Except nobody is demanding a better quality product...

[AntonThaGreat]

I've been really slacking on my comic reading for the past, oh, decade or so, and I just picked up the full Civil War collection on DVD. Now, is there anything I should read before I jump into Civil War? I used to be way into comics in my early teenage years, but recently besides a handful of Graphic Novels and Deadpool comics I'm a clean slate.

[muddi900]

Before Civil War, you should definitely read Astonishing X-men by Joss Whedon and John Cassaday and then instead of Civil War, read any other comic ever. Annihilation perhaps.

[Ghostbear]

Civil War is garbage. Read Annihilation instead.

[muddi900]

I wouldn't call it garbage. I'd say it has a lot of worth as a lesson on how not to do current affairs allegories involving beloved characters.

[Ghostbear]

It's also pretty.

[AntonThaGreat]

Shit really? I thought it was good! Everyone was raving about how Civil War would be a great direction to take Avengers in. I don't want to waste my time reading a crap story line. I'll look for Annihilation.

[muddi900]

Regular people, who have no connection with these characters and are impressed by cheap political pandering, really love it.

[J Arcane]

http://i.imgur.com/KeUQs.jpg

[Superman's Dead]

Read bendis's new avengers. It's a great way back in. And then planet hulk and world war hulk and secret invasion.

Sent from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2. Bendis.

[muddi900]

http://i.imgur.com/KeUQs.jpg

That was from a fantastic run of Action Comics. I believe from the Brainiac arc.

Read bendis's new avengers. It's a great way back in. And then planet hulk and world war hulk and secret invasion.

Sent from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2. Bendis.

One of these things is not like tge others.

[J Arcane]

I'm currently reading Planet Hulk. It's pretty good, but it feels rushed. So many big fights rushed through in a page or less. The story is decent, but so far I'm not sure if I don't like the film version of the story better.

[muddi900]

I love Planet Hulk.

[Psykoboy2]

Anybody got any good recent storylines I should look into? I'm flying to LA next week (E3) and could use some good reading on the flight there and back.

[muddi900]

Anybody got any good recent storylines I should look into? I'm flying to LA next week (E3) and could use some good reading on the flight there and back.

The new 52 Batman, Flash and Animal Man are all great. Batman Inc. too. The new Ultimate Spider-man is great, but be warned, very little happens in the 10 issues so far.

[Psykoboy2]

I think I might go with the Batman and Flash stuff. I'd read a few issues back when they did the whole New 52 thing so it'd be good to catch up. Plus, I heard wonderful things on Animal Man.

[Xerxes]

I'm currently reading Planet Hulk. It's pretty good, but it feels rushed. So many big fights rushed through in a page or less. The story is decent, but so far I'm not sure if I don't like the film version of the story better.

Naw man. Maybe your problem is watching that first. I bought the hard cover trade about a year or two before that movie came out. And it was alright, but that book is where it's at.

Plus Silver Surfer is better than Beta Ray Bill.

[bryan]

Anybody got any good recent storylines I should look into? I'm flying to LA next week (E3) and could use some good reading on the flight there and back.

If you like some hard sci fi, pick up the new Prophet. Pretty good read.

[muddi900]

Naw man. Maybe your problem is watching that first. I bought the hard cover trade about a year or two before that movie came out. And it was alright, but that book is where it's at.

Plus Silver Surfer is better than Beta Ray Bill.

Wait they replaced Silver Surfer with Beta Ray Bill? What the fuck?

EDIT: Second Prophet

[J Arcane]

They couldn't get permission to use Silver Surfer, so they decided that since Bill had never gotten an animated appearance, and there was already a Thor tie-in to the story, they'd work in Bill instead.

[Xerxes]

Bullshit. Beta Ray Bill was in that old Silver Surfer cartoon. :p

They needed a alien who could just happen to be on the planet and maybe on Hulk's level.

[J Arcane]

In any event, I'm now out of Marvel movies that aren't shittily animated motion comics. So I figured it was time to read some comics. I've got PH, WW Hulk, Aftersmash, and Incredible Hercules queued up. I will probably check out New Avengers as well.

[Ghostbear]

Plus Silver Surfer is better than Beta Ray Bill.

There is no line of logic that should lead to the Surfer being being better than Beta Ray Bill. Beta Ray FuckingBill carries the hammer Stormbreaker, is genetically engineered to be the best, defeated Thor without a hammer and nearly killed Galactus. Also this is how it went down the last time those two met.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ghostbear1/random%20crap/patrick-zircher-beta-ray-bill-godhunter-2-cover-beta-ray-bill-and-silver-surfer.jpg

[muddi900]

Yeah, stay way from Planet Hulk. Skip to Incredible Hercules.

[LordDon]

Muke Mignola's tribute to Dark Horse Comiccs:
http://i.imgur.com/WoJf5.jpg

That guy, goddamn I love his stuff.

[Ghostbear]

I highly recommend the Baltimore stuff by Mignola. It's some of his best work.

[Xerxes]

There is no line of logic that should lead to the Surfer being being better than Beta Ray Bill. Beta Ray FuckingBill carries the hammer Stormbreaker, is genetically engineered to be the best, defeated Thor without a hammer and nearly killed Galactus. Also this is how it went down the last time those two met.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ghostbear1/random%20crap/patrick-zircher-beta-ray-bill-godhunter-2-cover-beta-ray-bill-and-silver-surfer.jpg
He ain't Silver. And doesn't surf.
Also...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/915782-brbgh_02_007_super.jpg

Yeah, stay way from Planet Hulk. Skip to Incredible Hercules.
You mean WWH asshole. :p

And sometimes I wonder...
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jppyhSY91qfa4ixo1_500.jpg

[muddi900]

He ain't Silver. And doesn't surf.
Also...
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/915782-brbgh_02_007_super.jpg


You mean WWH asshole. :p

Yeah, that's what I meant.


And sometimes I wonder...
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jppyhSY91qfa4ixo1_500.jpg


I was going to make a Super Freak joke, but then I read the dialog on the cover.

[muddi900]

Another series that everyone should check out now is Rachel Rising by Terry Moore. Terry Moore is one of the very few self-publishing successes in comics, but this is his only book I have read so far. It's incredibly creepy. Available as a collection on comixology.

http://www.comixology.com/Rachel-Rising-Vol-1-Shadow-of-Death/digital-comic/JAN120780

[DoctorFinger]

Anybody got any good recent storylines I should look into? I'm flying to LA next week (E3) and could use some good reading on the flight there and back.I'll second the Prophet recommendation, but warn you only to get the issues from this year. Before that is was a classic Liefeld suckfest, now it's a haunting sci-fi book. I'll also add recs for Atomic Robo, Chew, Sixth Gun, Jonathan Hickman's run on Fantastic Four/FF & The Ultimates and Morning Glories.

[muddi900]

Oh fuck, Jonathan Hickman's Ultimates. It's the Batman to Millar's Joker.

Doc, have you tried Glory?

[DoctorFinger]

Glory I haven't tried yet. Is that one of the Extreme relaunches?

[muddi900]

Yeah. I hear it's quite good.

[J Arcane]

SHIELD really is a colossal bunch of dicks.

[muddi900]

It's editorial mandate at Marvel. Shield has to be assholes.

[J Arcane]

Finished reading World War Hulk.

Fuck me, that was AWESOME.

[muddi900]

The Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover is happening
http://ifanboy.com/comics/star-trek-tng-doctor-who-assimilation-1/

[Stmfuller]

The Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover is happening
http://ifanboy.com/comics/star-trek-tng-doctor-who-assimilation-1/

I saw that.
I am going to BUY IT AND LOVE IT AND HUG IT AND CALL IT GEORGE

[J Arcane]

So, is Skaar, Son of Hulk worth the read? I'd be interested to see more stories on Sakaar, I kinda skipped the worldbook issue they wrote on it, but it was an interesting place.

[Xerxes]

So, is Skaar, Son of Hulk worth the read? I'd be interested to see more stories on Sakaar, I kinda skipped the worldbook issue they wrote on it, but it was an interesting place.

I don't know, but I'd be like fuck naw. Shit just gets muddy. Next thing you know you'll be asking about Fall of the Hulks, then World War Hulks. Shit'll never end.

[J Arcane]

I'm reading Aftersmash now. I think I might skip the rest of it though, because it so far just feels like it exists to undermine the Warbound as characters. I mean, they've already pulled the "surprise! character assassination" trope on Elloe, and I've only read through issue #1 of Warbound.

Maybe just jump ahead to Incredible Herc. I want more Amadeus Cho.

[DoctorFinger]

the Skaar book was mediocre. But most of Pak's run on Hulk was very good

[muddi900]

I stopped around Fall of the Hulks. Maybe because it had Loeb written all over it.

You know what was a great Greg Pak book? War Machine, the 2009 series.

[KSmitty]

I agree with the Doc, the Son of Hulk books were mediocre at best. Which sucked, becuase it was intially a very interesting premise.


Batman & Robin vol 3: It's official, I just plain don't like the majority of Morrison's work on Batman. Outside of like 2 of the tpb's the rest of the overarching Black Glove story was 'meh' for me. Maybe what I don't like is the Black Glove, because now that I think about the stories I liked the most are The Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul, and Batman & Son.


I liked the new Animal Man. A creepy and disturbing 'villain' matched by the creepy and disturbing art style.

[J Arcane]

the Skaar book was mediocre. But most of Pak's run on Hulk was very good
Planet Hulk was good. World War Hulk was fantastic, if a bit hard to follow reading all the different side books at once. Aftersmash is lame so far, and I'll probably stop there and skip to Herc now.

Next I'll probably hit up New Avengers if I can find a package deal somewhere.

[DoctorFinger]

Be a little wary of which New Avengers you get. The first book - began 2004 I think - was pretty good. The newer New Avengers - beginning 2009 I think - isn't as good, since it's pretty much just went from crossover to crossover almost since it's debut.

[roboninja]

I have some reading to do.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fz_IPzz3om0/T8aO-2_we8I/AAAAAAAAAwI/L56xEAFJOq4/s636/CameraZOOM-20120530171125788.jpg

[Ink Asylum]

What? Nick Fury isn't white.

[J Arcane]

What? Nick Fury isn't white.
This seriously kept throwing me all through PH/WWH whenever he popped up. I just can't see Nick Fury as anyone but Sam Jackson now. It's just so wrong.

[DoctorFinger]

This seriously kept throwing me all through PH/WWH whenever he popped up. I just can't see Nick Fury as anyone but Sam Jackson now. It's just so wrong.You won't have to worry about that in future Marvel comics ;) .

[Suave Peanut]

The Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover is happening
http://ifanboy.com/comics/star-trek-tng-doctor-who-assimilation-1/
I picked up the first issue today. We'll see.

[Xerxes]

You won't have to worry about that in future Marvel comics ;) .

I thought both Fury and Fury Jr. were going to be around?

[DoctorFinger]

I thought both Fury and Fury Jr. were going to be around?I'd bet quite a lot that Fury Blanco bites it within the next few months. Possibly in the pages of a major crossover. Marvel wants Samuel L Fury, and that's the Fury we're going to get.

[muddi900]

I have been catching up to comics like crazy:

Animal Man - Feels more like old Vertigo series, like Y-The Last Man, Sandman and Preacher

Swamp Thing - Also has the same feel as Animal Man, but retreads a lot on the old Alan Moore run, which I have never read.

Wonder Woman - Even Brian Azzarello is having a hard time with this.

Spaceman - What the hell did I just read?

Ultimate Spider-man - Still going great. Still don't know how to shot web.

Batman: The Cult - The new Court of Owls arc was compared a lot to this old 80's Prestige format story by Jim Starlin and Bernie Washington. There are a few similarities, but this far more gratuitous than Scott Snyder's work. It came out right after the Dark Knight Returns, so it is incredibly violent and the art is similar to Frank Millers, but better. There are few cool moments here, but ultimately forgettable.

Wolverine by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller - This was done back when Wolverine, Frank Miller and collected edition comics were unknown. So every chapter starts with a description of Wolverine's powers and recap of the previous issues events. The story is very early 80's, with very stilted dialog and soap opera melodrama. It is Miller's art that's the highlight. Before Kalus Janson started doing finishes and way before his Sin City days, but he still retains a lot of that style.

Planet Hulk was good. World War Hulk was fantastic, if a bit hard to follow reading all the different side books at once. Aftersmash is lame so far, and I'll probably stop there and skip to Herc now.

Next I'll probably hit up New Avengers if I can find a package deal somewhere.

Comixology sells digital collections. (http://www.comixology.com/New-Avengers-Vol-1-Breakout/digital-comic/NOV052020) They are more expensive than print collections.
(http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marvel/NEW-AVENGERS-VOL-1-BREAKOUT-TP/NOV052020)

Be a little wary of which New Avengers you get. The first book - began 2004 I think - was pretty good. The newer New Avengers - beginning 2009 I think - isn't as good, since it's pretty much just went from crossover to crossover almost since it's debut.

That has been the problem with the Bendis avengers since the beginning. I loved the first two arcs new series though, especially the one with one with Squirrel girl.

I'd bet quite a lot that Fury Blanco bites it within the next few months. Possibly in the pages of a major crossover. Marvel wants Samuel L Fury, and that's the Fury we're going to get.

http://i.imgur.com/fLDJD.jpg

[J Arcane]

That Agents of Atlas bunch you run around with is named after the one guy dumb enough to be outsmarted be me!

This comic is every bit as good as promised.

[muddi900]

Also,

Last of the Bucky-Cap - More corporate synergy ruining it for everyone.

Batwoman - This is a pretty book. A very pretty book. And well written too. One thing I don't understand; Where is Renee Montoya?

Avenging Spider-man - You know you can tell when a creator does not get a character. Zeb Wells has worked on Spider-man before, but he still writes him as a person suffering from Asperger's syndrome. As soon as the crossover with Daredevil and Punisher happened, you see that it was written by the right people.

This comic is every bit as good as promised.

Wait till you get the love arc.

[muddi900]

Apparently, sales of Rachel Rising aren't doing so hot:
https://twitter.com/terrymoore/status/207859290378215424#

[DoctorFinger]

This comic is every bit as good as promised.
I have one word for you. Thorcules. That's a teaser.

[muddi900]

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo299/muddi900/comics/thorcules.png

[Ink Asylum]

That Nick Fury storyline looks like one of the most convoluted and ridiculous attempts to force an existing character to conform to their most popular incarnation. That spoof was hilarious, though.

"Yank his eye out so he looks like black Nick Fury."

As someone who never really read the original Marvel comic stories, was Agent Coulson a completely new character created for the movies?

[muddi900]

Agent Coulson was a plot device to introduce SHIELD, but was Clar Gregg breathed life into it.

They will probably age Loki again, and turn him evil

[DoctorFinger]

As someone who never really read the original Marvel comic stories, was Agent Coulson a completely new character created for the movies?Yes, he was created for Iron Man. He was also introduced in the Battle Scars book in just as awkward and convoluted way as Neo Fury.

[muddi900]

I have some reading to do.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fz_IPzz3om0/T8aO-2_we8I/AAAAAAAAAwI/L56xEAFJOq4/s636/CameraZOOM-20120530171125788.jpg

I missed this post, but this is awesome.

Also, Baron Zemo can be a great stand-in for Dr. Doom in the Captain America sequel.

[Xerxes]

I'd bet quite a lot that Fury Blanco bites it within the next few months. Possibly in the pages of a major crossover. Marvel wants Samuel L Fury, and that's the Fury we're going to get.

Wouldn't have been such a bad thing if they started working him in long ago nice and slow. I mean hell Ultimate Fury been around for some serious years already. Did they kill Nick Sr.

[muddi900]

Alan Scott confirmed to be Gay:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan-scott-is-gay-plus-more-gender-race-changes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Newsaramasite+%28Newsarama.co m%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

[Xerxes]

New homosexual character is who you thought he was.

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/06/01/news/web_photos/EARTH2_2031214--525x400.JPG

I'm still beside myself on the whole we have a big gay announcement. Is this going to send homosexuals to the comics stands? I guess Marvel started it. Guess they also don't have any comic universe events going on right? AvX I suppose is still on.

Seems like more and more DC and Marvel are just pandering to sell books. Has it always been this way and I just didn't notice? I mean thy have panels talking about events they are planning for in November. Maybe without the internet it just wasn't as publicized. I don't even remember that in magazines.

[Xerxes]

Alan Scott confirmed to be Gay:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan-scott-is-gay-plus-more-gender-race-changes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Newsaramasite+%28Newsarama.co m%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Other Gender, Race Changes Coming to DC? What the buck?

[muddi900]

Kylie Rayner. Wanda West. Bart Allen(who is black now...)

MergEDIT:
These events were covered by The Advocate and such, so there will be a sales boost for this book.

[Xerxes]

Kylie Rayner. Wanda West. Bart Allen(who is black now...)

You had me going there for a second. And what's a Wanda West?

http://st3.speedforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/kidflash-teentitans2.jpg

[muddi900]

I am just kidding, is that from NuTitans?

Where the fuck is Wally West?

[J Arcane]

Read Incredible Herc up to #141 but my collection stops there, right after he dies.

Wiki says there's more to the story thereafter though, but I can't find sauce. :(

Out of comics now. Was thinking about trying to find some Deadpool, but have no idea what runs to go for. I know there's some pretty wild irregularity in quality with that character ...

[DoctorFinger]

Read Incredible Herc up to #141 but my collection stops there, right after he dies.

Wiki says there's more to the story thereafter though, but I can't find sauce. :(

Out of comics now. Was thinking about trying to find some Deadpool, but have no idea what runs to go for. I know there's some pretty wild irregularity in quality with that character ...It continues through a couple of minis up to the Chaos War story, which was only ok. After that they tried to make Herc a 'street level' hero and the results were also mediocre.

As for the gay character/weddings at Marvel & DC, they're trying to get mainstream publicity. The announcements got them tons of press coverage which they would never otherwise get. They'd also like to appeal to GLBT kids and teens, but I think the publicity is the prime mover. Unfortunately the Northstar story in Astonishing is pretty bad, which is a shame because I've really liked Marjorie Liu's work at Marvel so far.

[muddi900]

Read Incredible Herc up to #141 but my collection stops there, right after he dies.

Wiki says there's more to the story thereafter though, but I can't find sauce. :(

Out of comics now. Was thinking about trying to find some Deadpool, but have no idea what runs to go for. I know there's some pretty wild irregularity in quality with that character ...

Blue Beetle, the 2006 series (http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Beetle-Book-1-Shellshocked/dp/1401209653/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338555107&sr=8-1). It is similar in tone to Incredible Hercules, though a little more kid friendly. Also one of the best depictions of a Hispanic character in comics.

[J Arcane]

I've read Jaime's Blue Beetle already. ;)

[muddi900]

The Reboot Flash is quite fun:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Flash-Vol-Move-Forward/dp/1401235530/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338555581&sr=8-1

But if you want something insane, Astonishing Spider-man & Wolverine.
http://www.amazon.com/Astonishing-Spider-Man-Wolverine-Jason-Aaron/dp/0785140808/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338555687&sr=8-1-spell

EDIT:
A lesser writer would have screwed this up
End Edit:

Comixology has a sale on Grant Morrison, the first arc of his JLA is the comic equivalent of the Avengers movie:
http://www.comixology.com/Grant-Morrison-Sale/comics-collection/398

[DoctorFinger]

It isnt' a cape book, but Chew has some pretty great laughs, although they're sometimes pretty dark laughs.

[bryan]

Morrison's JLA grant is pretty fun.

How's his Batman Inc?

[DoctorFinger]

Morrison's JLA grant is pretty fun.

How's his Batman Inc?Good but a little too uneven to be great. Reads better in collections than in single issues I think.

[Xerxes]

I am just kidding, is that from NuTitans?

Where the fuck is Wally West?

I believe so.

See the thing is Barry Allen died when I was 4. Don't really give a shit about him. From the cartoons and TPB I have, Flash is Wally West.

After checking out the abomination that was Static, I gave up. I did check out Animal Man and that was really good, but I just dusted my hands of this whole revamp thing.

[J Arcane]

http://notalwaysright.com/the-dark-chocolate-knight/20422

[muddi900]

That is too incredibly cute to be true.

Anyway, since we were talking fun comics, I checked out the first issue of the 90's Young Justice. First few pages devoted wholly to making fun of comic-book trends at the time. Peter David made fun of his own Aquaman run.

Morrison's JLA grant is pretty fun.

How's his Batman Inc?

What if Batman was James Bond?

I believe so.

See the thing is Barry Allen died when I was 4. Don't really give a shit about him. From the cartoons and TPB I have, Flash is Wally West.

After checking out the abomination that was Static, I gave up. I did check out Animal Man and that was really good, but I just dusted my hands of this whole revamp thing.

I don't know what to tell you, except that the fact that I did not expect the Flash to be good. In fact, the last decent Flash comic came out in like 2004.

[DoctorFinger]

Anyway, since we were talking fun comics, I checked out the first issue of the 90's Young Justice. First few pages devoted wholly to making fun of comic-book trends at the time. Peter David made fun of his own Aquaman run.Whenever I'm sick, I pull out my run of Young Justice. One of my all time favorites.

[muddi900]

Mike Avon Oeming just did a Power's version of Wally Woods 22 panels that always work:
http://michaeloeming.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/PowersWood.jpg

EDIT:
The original

http://i.imgur.com/rlZrh.jpg

[muddi900]

Hey, an episode of Young Justice that doesn't suck, for a change:
http://i.imgur.com/7NFnm.png

[Xerxes]

You know, I liked the show before all the changes. Had a rough start but yeah. Then all this alien bs and it's just so bleh. This one was a return to form sort of. Aside from all the crash the mode crash mode in the mode crash crash. O_o

[DoctorFinger]

I love how they still worked in a Roy Harper missing an arm. Maybe they can have him beat up cats too.

BTW, that episode was written by Peter David.

[muddi900]

I almost expected that to happen when they showed the back-alley scene in an earlier episode...

[Ghostbear]

You know, I've never been a big Spider-Man fan, but this End of the Earth arc that Slott is writing has been great.

[J Arcane]

http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/the-thing.jpg?d58414

[muddi900]

This is the second google result for Greg Land:
http://fuck-no-greg-land.tumblr.com/

[Xerxes]

Is he that bad?

[J Arcane]

Is he that bad?
He does seem to produce a remarkable lot of "art" that's just tracings of pornstars.

[muddi900]

Is he that bad?

Yes

Short, like the amount of time Land takes to trace porn.

[muddi900]

Variant covers for Walking Dead #100 by Ryan Ottley, frank Quietly, Mark Silvestri, and Tod McFarlane.
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/116699/

Also doing variants, Sean Philips and Bryan Hitch

[Ghostbear]

those are amazing covers.

[Xerxes]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y3BQUuRLRKY/T82jRsQBqXI/AAAAAAAAB9o/2tkfdr-Nm6s/s1600/765.jpg
I wonder would this also include people who mine the internets for information rather than actually read all the books? :p

[muddi900]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Steve Dillon's Hulk:
http://stricklyflix.binhoster.com/images/5kqiwl.png

[muddi900]

The first issue of Power Girl is free on comixology till 11AM, just go here:
http://www.readdcentertainment.com/redeem

And enter #POWERGIRL

[Xerxes]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Steve Dillon's Hulk:
http://stricklyflix.binhoster.com/images/5kqiwl.png

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4yz3v3eCg1rvcjvto1_1280.jpg

[muddi900]

Also, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is cancelled for new Avengers Assemble

[Xerxes]

Boooo! Wait what's avengers assemble?

[DoctorFinger]

Boooo! Wait what's avengers assemble?
http://cdn.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/20120605163312.png

Looks like they're going to a lineup and look straight out of the movie.

[Ink Asylum]

"The Avengers you know and love from the hit Hollywood movie......and this dude with wings!"

[DoctorFinger]

It's a shame because after a couple of minor missteps, I've really loved EMH. It's not quite at the level of the Dini/Timm DCAU, but it was close. As was Wolverine & The X-Men, which was also canceled too soon.

And it's all because neither show is produced 100% inside of Marvel/Disney. So the Ultimate Spider-Man show, which is pretty close to unwatchable, is safe probably for all time. While EMH which is actually really good gets canned for something which may or may not exist in the same continuity as USM.

[Xerxes]

I like Ultimate Spider-Man.

But they swap Black Panther for Falcon. And no Ant-Man or Wasp. O_o
Actually Wasp seemed rather pointless.

[J Arcane]

Wasp was the best character in EMH.

Also the hawtest. Mrow.

And that Hulk above looks like the asshole just traced some old Lex Luthor drawings and had them inked green. That's awful.

[Xerxes]

You know I almost couldn't stand the first 5 minutes of Spectacular Spider-Man, but I keep hearing good things. I might have to give it one more shot.

J I think that's a good looking Hulk. And No she wasn't. She was the most pointless character. Tiny sparkles that didn't hurt anyone.

[muddi900]

Hulk has been becoming more and more humanoid, Dillon just skipped a few steps.

[Xerxes]

Oh he means the Dillon Hulk. Yeah, why the fuck is he bald?

I take it this Dillon guy isn't the best at what he does?

[muddi900]

Didn't you love Preacher?

[Xerxes]

Didn't you love Preacher?

I only read the first TPB. Too be honest it was too hectic and I took a break. Right around the part I got to Arseface. O_o

[muddi900]

I only ever read the first issue. Didn't like it at the time, but should totally go back.

[bryan]

Disappointed I enjoyed EMH despite a bland start. Oh well this COULD be better.

[J Arcane]

Today I got bored, and pulled out my Heroes Unlimited PDF and rolled up a character: A former street punk who somehow came into possession of a magic sword that gave him wolf powers.

I think I could write that.

[muddi900]

My Quest for Catching Up continues...

Chew
It is not as funny as it wants to be, but it is still a lot of fun. I just wish they reach the conclusion to the actual Mysterysoon.

American Vampire - Survival of thee Fittest
Wouldn't it have been awesome if the Nazis in Raiders of the Lost Ark were Vampires? Well, there you go. As well-executed and -written as the concept seems ridiculous, it adds a lot to the actual mythology of the series. Scott Snyder has created a rich mythology in a short span of time, while subverting and mashing multiple genres.

Batwoman
JH Williams III is not Greg Rucka. The book, as long as he was illustrating, was beautiful and well structured, but he and Blackman are not as good at writing as Rucka, it is very evident. It's not terrible, but disappointing. After, Amy Reeder took over, it was evident she couldn't keep up. Still the first arc was great.

Wonder Woman
Brian Azzarello is really trying to make Wonder Woman cool. Integrating Greek Mythology is great, but I am still not convinced. Loss of Cliff Chiang didn't help.

[muddi900]

Image/skybound is selling T-Shirts of the most iconic panel from the Walking Dead.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/governor-walking-dead-625x555.jpg

[DoctorFinger]

Chiang is still on WW, but he just can't do that many issues in a year.

[muddi900]

I know, but DC is trying very hard to maintain the schedule at the expense of quality, I don't think he will last long. It would be fun to see JHW's next arc on Batwoman, if he can even be on time. He had been writing the first arc for 15 months.

[bryan]

Mmm hope the new artist can live up to Cliff, the interesting renditions he does is what keeps me coming back to the book.

[muddi900]

If an Artist is good, he's going to take time. If DC is still comitted to being on time, I doubt we would have many decent artists.

[muddi900]

DC adds 4 more books to the New (more than) 52 in September:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/dcs-september-launches-will-push-its-line-past-52-at-least-for-now/

The new books look terrible, except Sword of Sorcery, which brings back Ametheyst.

[Xerxes]

Am I the only one hoping this shit implodes and they go back to old DC.

[DoctorFinger]

DC adds 4 more books to the New (more than) 52 in September:
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/dcs-september-launches-will-push-its-line-past-52-at-least-for-now/

The new books look terrible, except Sword of Sorcery, which brings back Ametheyst.Snyder's whole thing with the Court of Owls has been good enough that I'll give Talon a shot. I also love Amanda Waller, but Team 7 doesn't look so hot.

[muddi900]

And she's called the Wall, not the Beam, or the Pillar

Another thing to note, Scott Snyder has pointed out on twitter that while he gets story credit for Talon #1, he is not writing it.

Also, DC is cancelling books too; Resurrection Man and Captain Atom have been cancelled.

[DoctorFinger]

Voodoo and JLI got the axe too. I know Snyder is only plotting it, but for now it's enough to get me to buy the first issue.

iFanboy asks an interesting question (http://ifanboy.com/articles/are-there-any-superstar-comic-artists-left/): are there any superstar comic artists left (other than Jim Lee)? Superstar writers we have: Johns, Millar, Bendis, Morrison, Kirkman. Guys whose mere presence on the creator block goose sales significantly. But how many artists do that? I mean a book drawn by JH Williams will sell more than one by, say, Tom Derenick. But will is sell that much more?

Right now, other than Lee, there are only 2 artists I would put anywhere near that category: Bryan Hitch and Ed McGuiness. Hitch is somewhat obvious, but McGuiness on art has consistently turned books into top 5/top 10 sellers, only to fall back when he's gone. And that's working almost exclusively with one writer - Jeph Loeb - who's not exactly a huge draw himself.

Guys like John Cassaday, Adam Hughes, Jae Lee and Adi Granov don't do interiors very much anymore, and even if they did I'm not sure they would produce the same sort of results. Would a solo book from the Big 2 written by a good but not superstar writer - a Fraction or a Hickman or a Snyder - with Cassaday on art come close to doing what an equivalent book with Lee or Hitch on art would?

[muddi900]

It makes zero sense for a guy like John Cassaday to do interiors. He has to work on a tight schedule, which he can't do if he wants to produce quality work, and he has to do a lot more work for the same amount of pay. In the time he creates a single interior page, he can do 3 covers. He's a known name, so he has collectors now, and publishers will pay him more for variants. I would say though, if Cassaday or Bolland or Ross, did a single issue of an ongoing series, it would seriously jump in sales.

But to answer your question, Darwyn Cooke. Nobody would have bought Before Watchmen: Minutemen if it wasn't for him. In fact, nobody would have bought an adaptation of a decades old crime novel series if it weren't for him.

[DoctorFinger]

It makes zero sense for a guy like John Cassaday to do interiors. He has to work on a tight schedule, which he can't do if he wants to produce quality work, and he has to do a lot more work for the same amount of pay. In the time he creates a single interior page, he can do 3 covers. He's a known name, so he has collectors now, and publishers will pay him more for variants. I would say though, if Cassaday or Bolland or Ross, did a single issue of an ongoing series, it would seriously jump in sales.

But to answer your question, Darwyn Cooke. Nobody would have bought Before Watchmen: Minutemen if it wasn't for him. In fact, nobody would have bought an adaptation of a decades old crime novel series if it weren't for him.As much as I'd love to see Cassaday do more interiors, you're totally right that he's making better use of his time as a cover artist. Same with Hughes and Bolland.

And I love Cooke as an artist, but I think he's (erroneously) considered too much of an indie guy to be a superstar. The open minded comic fan knows and loves his work, but broskis who come into my comic shop and only buy GL, Avengers and X-Men don't feel the same way. I'd put him in the same category as McNiven, Williams and Land as artists who lift sales, but still aren't superstars.

[muddi900]

Scott Lobdell is taking over Superman, vecause the book didn't suck enough...

[LordDon]

I'm sad and miss the late 80's and early 90's heyday of awesome artists. Art Adams, Campbell, Ramos, Lee, Maduriera, Silvestri, Portacio... *sigh*

[muddi900]

I believe one of the reasons the comic industry collapsed and still hasn't recovered is that it had become to artist-centric.

Also, I didn't know broskis read Green Lantern. Why the fuck are sales dropping then?

[muddi900]

Ridiculous Catwoman cover results in ridiculous gif:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5gp43AJj61qgxb99o1_500.gif

[DoctorFinger]

That cover... If I didn't know better I would say that was one of the over the top, too insane to be real mock-ups feminist comic artists do to mock the norm. But it's real. She looks like she's made of 4 basketballs and a bunch of pipe cleaners.

[muddi900]

Also, in September 13 out of the New 52 are Batfamily books, discounting Justice League and Teen Titans.

[DoctorFinger]

What did we all say when the 'New52' was announced? It was great that they're trying to give characters like Resurrection Man and Voodoo and Deadman their own books, but sooner or later they're going to revert to the norm: a ton of books featuring the most popular characters.

[muddi900]

Yes, but there are 5 books that feature Batman as the main character + Justice League. They are trying to Punverinepool him.

[Xerxes]

You added Pun, which I'm guessing is supposed to be punisher. Is he in that many book? I mean Wolverine and Deadpool I get. If you had to add another character I went Venverinepool

[DoctorFinger]

Back in the day Punisher had 3-4 ongoing books at any time and maybe another mini or two plus guest appearances galore. It was every bit as bad as Wolverine and Deadpool a few years back. He's used more sparingly now, but he was the original poster child for over exposure.

[Xerxes]

3-4? I thought it was just Punisher or War Journal?

Isn't Spider-man the original? Although I guess I'm thinking back to the 80s/90s when it was Amazing, Web of Spider-Man, Spectacular, Spider-man.

[DoctorFinger]

By 'back in the day' I mean the late 80s/early 90s. Punisher, Punisher War Journal, Punisher War Zone and Punisher Armory (I think) were all regular books for years.

Spidey had tons of titles at one point, but I don't remember thinking he was overexposed. He was the biggest draw for the company, and one of the 2-3 biggest in the industry.

[Psykoboy2]

Spider-Man, Amazing Spider-Man, Spectacular Spider-Man, Web Of Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099 - 5 books at one time and I think a 6th was added as well before they stopped publication on "Web".

[DoctorFinger]

Was Peter Porker: The Spectacular Spider-Ham still being published in the early 90s when the adjectiveless Spider-Man came out?

[Xerxes]

Ridiculous Catwoman cover results in ridiculous gif:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5gp43AJj61qgxb99o1_500.gif

And you just had to post the most inane form of it. I can't even see what the damn picture was until googling it. :mad:

Also, yes. Not a good look.

[DoctorFinger]

CSBG did one of their 'line is drawn (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/14/the-line-it-is-drawn-94-alternate-reality-character-designs/)' art projects where they project characters into other comic universes. It had this riff by Phillip Sevy (http://thecreatorhd.deviantart.com/)

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/line6-14-3-620x882.jpg

That is all kinds of awesome.

[muddi900]

CSBG should be in everyone's RSS feeds.

[Superman's Dead]

I know some of you will disagree with me but I don't think anyone has ever written Norman Osborne as good as Brian Michael Bendis.