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Serapth
04-09-2011, 07:31 PM
Just curious what people tip in the following scenarios?

Valet, drop off.
Valet, day trip out/in.
Valet, leaving.
Bellhop, delivering bags.
Room service.
Haircut.
Taxi ride, under 5 minute.
Taxi ride, over.
Meal out, under 20$
Meal out, 20-50$ no booze
Meal out, 20-50$ with booze
Meal out, 50-150$
Meal out, 150+
Pizza Delivery, no fee.
Pizza Delivery, with service fee.
Movers.
Cleaning service/maid
Coffee shop, to go.
Coffee shop, staying.
Massage, legit, no happy ending.

In all above scenarios, assume average or better but not omg wow service.

If you think of categories i missed, add em.

evilgoodwin
04-09-2011, 07:43 PM
Escorts?

Bartenders, waitresses, Dry cleaning, Meal out under $10.

Pizza delivery can probably be changed to any type of food delivery, such as Chinese and such. I rarely get pizza brought to me.

Superman's Dead
04-09-2011, 08:02 PM
Taxi gets ten to fifteen. Restaurant is always twenty, unless they had nothing to do with me (like in some cafes) and then it's fifteen. To go coffee depends on change back and how cute they are. Valet and similar services depend on how nice the place is, but at least two bucks.

Superman's Dead
04-09-2011, 08:03 PM
Oh, guys? Even if gratuity is included, always tip room service an extra buck. Or they cry.

Generation ABXY
04-09-2011, 08:07 PM
To go coffee depends on change back and how cute they are.

Wrong tip, Supes.

Superman's Dead
04-09-2011, 08:18 PM
Wrong tip, Supes.

Always works for them ..

Ink Asylum
04-09-2011, 08:20 PM
Uh oh. Remember what happened the last time we talked about tipping?

Haircut. - $5
Taxi ride - $5
Meal out - 18-20%
Pizza Delivery - $3

Sandman
04-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Meal out is where I tip the most, 10 - 20% depending on check. Other stuff depends on quality of service vs how much they're already charging. Oh and I usually don't have room service in a hotel, I'm the type that likes to put the Do Not Disturb sign up the whole time I'm there.

J Arcane
04-09-2011, 08:41 PM
Uh oh. Remember what happened the last time we talked about tipping?

Dude, that's what ALWAYS happens when you talk about tipping on the internet.

You could have more civil conversations about Nazi abortion policy on the Internet than tipping.

TheKeck
04-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Valet, drop off. - Wouldn't know
Valet, day trip out/in. - Wouldn't know
Valet, leaving. - Wouldn't know
Bellhop, delivering bags. - Probably nothing
Room service. - probably nothing
Haircut. - Couple bucks, except I always have my wife do it
Taxi ride, under 5 minute. - Probably nothing
Taxi ride, over. - not sure
Meal out, under 20$ - 15-20%
Meal out, 20-50$ no booze - 15-20%
Meal out, 20-50$ with booze - Wouldn't know
Meal out, 50-150$ - 15-20%
Meal out, 150+ - Wouldn't know
Pizza Delivery, no fee. - Wouldn't know
Pizza Delivery, with service fee. - Wouldn't know
Movers. - Wouldn't know
Cleaning service/maid - Wouldn't know
Coffee shop, to go. - Wouldn't know
Coffee shop, staying. - Wouldn't know
Massage, legit, no happy ending. - Wouldn't know

It was nice on our trip to new Zealand/Tahiti where the culture is not to tip. :)

Superman's Dead
04-09-2011, 09:07 PM
It was nice on our trip to new Zealand/Tahiti where the culture is not to tip. :)

On the flip side, plenty of australians don't tip here just because they don't know to

Serapth
04-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Oh, guys? Even if gratuity is included, always tip room service an extra buck. Or they cry.

Just ran into that minutes ago... Except

There is a 20% service charge on room service.
On top of that, there is a 3$ delivery charge.
And it took an hour...

Tip just wasnt going to happen. Server is probably getting screwed in this equation, but when i am already getting dicked twice... Yeah, no more.

VerseD
04-09-2011, 09:24 PM
You could have more civil conversations about Nazi abortion policy on the Internet than tipping.

This should be a law of the Internet.

Superman's Dead
04-09-2011, 09:54 PM
Just ran into that minutes ago... Except

There is a 20% service charge on room service.
On top of that, there is a 3$ delivery charge.
And it took an hour...

Tip just wasnt going to happen. Server is probably getting screwed in this equation, but when i am already getting dicked twice... Yeah, no more.

The three dollar delivery charge makes sure people don't have water and bread delivered every ten minutes, and if it took an hour it probably meant they got a lot of calls all at once. Sucks for everyone involved.

Twenty percent though...that'd be nice.

I'm so glad i'm done with this fucking job, though. Put in my two weeks on thursday

Lint of Death
04-09-2011, 10:25 PM
Living as a student in Spain produced some interesting scenarios. You don't tip in Spain, but some unscrupulous assholes try to take advantage of foreigners. It sometimes happened - mostly/entirely in Madrid - that the waiter or waitress would ask for/demand a tip even when it clearly said "IVA incluido" on the bill.

menage
04-10-2011, 02:02 AM
You tip for haircuts in the States??? That doesn't happen here.

The rest only in hotels, restaurants, etc. 5 to 10 % of the amount spend on food and a set amount for the rest, if the service was't lousy otherwise fuck em. I refuse to tip because I have to, that isn't the idea behind it.

Taxis depends on the dude.

Narradisall
04-10-2011, 03:26 AM
God America's tipping system is confusing. I just tip for everything when I'm there.

ShivaX
04-10-2011, 03:47 AM
God America's tipping system is confusing. I just tip for everything when I'm there.

Unless you're loaded, you'll get by just tipping for food in most cases.

Basically, if someone made food and served/brought it to you, odds are you should toss em a tip. Fast food doesn't count cause they don't serve you or bring you shit, though if a place delivers most people will tip the driver who ran it out.

Coffee shop people can get bent. I'll tip them right after I tip the dude at McDonalds. So I guess they might get my extra pennies.

KamaItachi
04-10-2011, 03:59 AM
I'll tip for meals out, but that's the only time as standard. For everyone else, it very much depends on the level of service, and I usually don't as standard, but then I'm not used to the same culture of tipping as in come countries, so my philosophy may come across as uncouth and ridiculous.

Chris_D
04-10-2011, 04:11 AM
None of the above :).

ClannerDelta
04-10-2011, 05:06 AM
You tip for haircuts in the States??? That doesn't happen here.

Tipping for haircuts makes a lot of sense. Gives them more incentive to make sure you don't look like a twat when you walk out.

Stmfuller
04-10-2011, 05:24 AM
I tip for:
Food (only if it's brought to me and never if it's a tip jar) ~20%
Cab Rides (This varies depending on the distance and frequency): ~$5
Haircuts: at least $5

nothing else.

tacitus
04-10-2011, 05:43 AM
God America's tipping system is confusing. I just tip for everything when I'm there.
Even for other Americans - in big cities (eg New York, LA) it seems everybody expects a tip. I personally live in the burbs -

resturant service - %20 + depending on the service and even more if I go very inexpensive resturant.
haircuts - %20 but the place I go (Haircuttery) as far as I can tell watching people while waiting is I haven't seen anybody else tip.

I don't think that I have ever had food delivered since college, but I would tip $1-2 per pizza or other large object.
I would tip something if I ever took a taxi - I last time I took one I gave $5.

menage
04-10-2011, 06:02 AM
Tipping for haircuts makes a lot of sense. Gives them more incentive to make sure you don't look like a twat when you walk out.

Over here it's pretty common to have a regular person do that for you, it's also fucking expensive already. If they would screw it up they would just lose a client. And seeing as their are tons of hairdressers around they just better not make me like a twat, that would just cause a bad rep.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 07:14 AM
The rest only in hotels, restaurants, etc. 5 to 10 % of the amount spend on food and a set amount for the rest, if the service was't lousy otherwise fuck em. I refuse to tip because I have to, that isn't the idea behind it.

As discussed the last time this came up, tipping on restaurant service in the States is different than in most places due to the formalized nature of tips in the industry. Restaurants are legally allowed to pay employees less than minimum wage, as it's expected they will make the rest up in tips.

As a result, what would be considered a standard tip in other countries, like your 5-10%, would be seen as a harsh tip in America.

Chris_D
04-10-2011, 07:28 AM
Yup, a broken system in my opinion.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 07:38 AM
I'd support changes to the system tomorrow, but as long as it exists I'm not going to punish the people it hurts even further.

Chris_D
04-10-2011, 07:40 AM
The government should just enforce minimum wages for all and then (excessive) tipping would be phased out naturally.

boratika
04-10-2011, 07:46 AM
I only taxis, because of how shit that job can be and how non-uniform an evenings takings can be. I just tell them to keep the change, so how much they get depends on the relationship between the fare and the lowest denominations of note I have.

But then, I live in Australia, so yeah, it's not really a thing here for the most part.

SilentScreams
04-10-2011, 08:06 AM
Tipping is almost non-existent here. I learned the last time we discussed this how screwed up the American system is.

Everyone gets a minimum wage here, so tips are exactly what they should be; a bonus. While I usually tip for a restaurant meal (about 10% is considered acceptable) you're really not expected to tip for anything.

menage
04-10-2011, 08:27 AM
As discussed the last time this came up, tipping on restaurant service in the States is different than in most places due to the formalized nature of tips in the industry. Restaurants are legally allowed to pay employees less than minimum wage, as it's expected they will make the rest up in tips.

As a result, what would be considered a standard tip in other countries, like your 5-10%, would be seen as a harsh tip in America.

Yeah, here there is a minimum wage as well, So we only tip when the service was good or excellent. I still tip a lot, but It's more of a bonus than a necessity for the people involved.

Stmfuller
04-10-2011, 08:31 AM
As discussed the last time this came up, tipping on restaurant service in the States is different than in most places due to the formalized nature of tips in the industry. Restaurants are legally allowed to pay employees less than minimum wage, as it's expected they will make the rest up in tips.

As a result, what would be considered a standard tip in other countries, like your 5-10%, would be seen as a harsh tip in America.

That being said, if the service sucks...don't tip.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 08:41 AM
In America that'd be the equivalent of refusing to pay the full price of your bill in other countries. If you think the service was bad enough to do that, fair enough, but I rarely if ever have received service so horrible that I felt inclined to leave less than 15% tip in America.

If the service is that awful you'll accomplish more by directly speaking to the management. Leave a shoddy tip and most wait staff will just think you're a cheapskate.

Shrinn
04-10-2011, 08:44 AM
I'll tip 15-20% at restaurants depending on how much work they do for my table and how pleasant they help make the dining experience.
Haircuts are about $5, that shit is ridiculously expensive already especially for something I'm never happy with.
My poor friend tips tattoo/piercing people whatever she has left.
For delivery, I usually try to get an extra $2.50 per person to cover tip and tax.

rein
04-10-2011, 08:45 AM
The only thing I feel required to tip for is valet service (typically $5), room service ($2-$5), eating out (20%) and bartenders (depends on how drunk I get). I also tip for my haircut but that tip depends on how much I am being charged for the haircut. I pay $20 for a haircut including tip. It usually works out to a $4-$6 tip. I do leave the change for places like Sonic and coffee shops. Sometimes they get a buck or two and sometimes they get a few cents.

menage
04-10-2011, 08:45 AM
In America that'd be the equivalent of refusing to pay the full price of your bill in other countries. If you think the service was bad enough to do that, fair enough, but I rarely if ever have received service so horrible that I felt inclined to leave less than 15% tip in America.

If the service is that awful you'll accomplish more by directly speaking to the management. Leave a shoddy tip and most wait staff will just think you're a cheapskate.
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That's kinda weird. I know it cuts into their salary but would you really tip someone who treats you like shit? I wouldn't pay the bill for any other service I wasn't happy with, Like plumbing or something. If it's clearly not meant to be be bad serrvice but accidental or something it's something different, but if they don't give a rats ass neither will I.

Talking to management might get them fired. I'd rather not give them my money. To hell what they think.

SilentScreams
04-10-2011, 08:48 AM
I think it's kind of fucked up that the paying customer is expected to make up for their shitty wages. Is the food cheaper to make up for it? Paying 20% extra for every meal will soon add up.

Reverant
04-10-2011, 08:57 AM
Coming out of the Marines, I've come to appreciate a good haircut and a good barber, so I often throw out a solid $10 tip even if the haircut just cost $12. Just dropping a $20 in total (service + tip) is a good bet for a decent haircut.

You know what's fucking ridiculous? When restaurants/businesses have a tip/gratuity line on their credit card receipts when they don't serve you at all. I draw a big, deliberate line through that section. Honestly, it might not even be their fault, that's just the printing system they have, but it drives me nuts.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 09:18 AM
That's kinda weird. I know it cuts into their salary but would you really tip someone who treats you like shit?

I don't view the first 15% as a tip, I just see it as part of the wait staff's regular wages, because I know that the restaurant is allowed to pay them less than a worker in a different industry.

As I said, if someone really treated me like shit I'd talk to their manager and/or refuse to return to the business. I'm not going to dock someone's regular salary because of it. I'll leave that to the employer/employee relationship.

If I went into a retail store and an employee was rude/inconsiderate/incredibly slow I'd consider reporting their behavior or boycotting the business in the future, but I wouldn't expect that I could unilaterally decide to dock their wages for the day.

carnage11
04-10-2011, 09:18 AM
Walks in.....



Looks left.......looks right.......hides behind a fake ficus tree.




Is that crazy person in here?

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 09:19 AM
Walks in.....

Looks left.......looks right.......hides behind a fake ficus tree.

Is that crazy person in here?

Heh. He remembers what I was talking about, J Arcane. Someone around here still has part of that exchange as their signature.

If she's still trawling google looking to find topics about tipping she can firebomb I'm sure she'll be here soon enough.

Handmade.Mercury
04-10-2011, 09:29 AM
Some of these, I've never heard of or haven't had the opportunity to tip, but here's my list:

Valet, drop off.
Valet, day trip out/in.
Valet, leaving.
Bellhop, delivering bags.
Room service.
Haircut.
Taxi ride, under 5 minute.
Taxi ride, over.
Meal out, under 20$
Meal out, 20-50$ no booze
Meal out, 20-50$ with booze
Meal out, 50-150$
Meal out, 150+
Pizza Delivery, no fee.
Movers.
Cleaning service/maid

SilentScreams
04-10-2011, 09:36 AM
Heh. He remembers what I was talking about, J Arcane. Someone around here still has part of that exchange as their signature.

If she's still trawling google looking to find topics about tipping she can firebomb I'm sure she'll be here soon enough.

I CAN hardly WAIT!

Blue
04-10-2011, 09:50 AM
If she returns, anyone who talks to her needs a banning.

Serapth
04-10-2011, 10:06 AM
Over here it's pretty common to have a regular person do that for you, it's also fucking expensive already. If they would screw it up they would just lose a client. And seeing as their are tons of hairdressers around they just better not make me like a twat, that would just cause a bad rep.

Wheres here? Around here a typical hair cut is like 10-20$ for guys. Generally about 15$ and id typically pay about 20$, so after tax about a 20% tip. 20$ for a service like a haircut, which generally takes 20+ minutes seem very reasonable to me.

Frankly tipping for a haircut makes 100% more sense than giving a guy a buck or two for reaching under the bar and getting you a beer, unless you are a name basis regular.

Serapth
04-10-2011, 10:13 AM
Weird, i may have actually been the one that started that earlier thread, and frankly im lost who you are talking about.

Serapth
04-10-2011, 10:19 AM
I think it's kind of fucked up that the paying customer is expected to make up for their shitty wages. Is the food cheaper to make up for it? Paying 20% extra for every meal will soon add up.

Actually yes, i think it generally is. From what ive seen restauarants are near to parity, ignoring currency. For example a steak dinner With sides would be 15-20 in UK or US, in their native currency. You equalize that amount to say Euros and you Brits pay a lot more for food. Its also true at the fast food level. I believe a big mac combo woukd be like 5 or 6USD, which means you guys are actually paying a fair bit more.

carnage11
04-10-2011, 10:19 AM
Heh. He remembers what I was talking about, J Arcane. Someone around here still has part of that exchange as their signature.

If she's still trawling google looking to find topics about tipping she can firebomb I'm sure she'll be here soon enough.

If there were ever a way to draw it back here, naming a thread "Tipping" was a pretty good one.


Need to throw some other keywords in here for good measure......restaurant, gratuity, psycho, nut job, whack-o. That should about do it.:p

If she returns, anyone who talks to her needs a banning.
Who are we kidding, it was the most exciting thing to happen in this place in months. :p

Blue
04-10-2011, 10:23 AM
I can't disagree with you. I also can't disagree with my suggestion.

Handmade.Mercury
04-10-2011, 10:35 AM
It would seem I missed some great fun last time there was a tipping thread. Is there a link? I couldn't find it using search, unless it's named something funny.

EDIT: Oh wait, no, I'm now vaguely remembering this fiasco. A link would still be cool, though.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 10:44 AM
You can follow the link in the Ultima quote in SilentScreams' posts. Scroll up a bit to see the woman he was mocking: Springs1

carnage11
04-10-2011, 10:53 AM
Oh wow, I swear it was it's own thread, but turns out it was in the despise thread. Crazy. Looking back at it reminded me that Xerxes is still banned. Did we forget? Weren't we supposed to lift that ban at some point? lol!:D

Serapth
04-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Xerxes is banned, wtf. Really?

Superman's Dead
04-10-2011, 11:08 AM
Oh, yeah! Bars!

I tip at least 1.50 per order (so if two drinks are eight bucks, I just leave a ten). I always tip bartenders well, especially at places I go on a regular basis. If you tip well they're more attentive to you, they relax a bit when dealing with you, and your drinks usually get larger/stronger.

SilentScreams
04-10-2011, 11:12 AM
I thought Xerxes changed his user title to banned or something. I remember somebody doing that anyway.

Handmade.Mercury
04-10-2011, 11:19 AM
I tip at least 1.50 per order (so if two drinks are eight bucks, I just leave a ten).

I think there's something wrong with your math. :p

EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized that you're counting both drinks as a single order.

Generation ABXY
04-10-2011, 11:32 AM
I thought Xerxes changed his user title to banned or something. I remember somebody doing that anyway.

IIRC, he requested a temp ban that's supposed to be lifted sometime this month.

J Arcane
04-10-2011, 12:02 PM
While I hate to get in the middle of another one of these, there is one misconception I'd like to point out.

It is true that some municipalities and states allow for a docking of minimum wage to adjust for tips. This is, in my mind, basically criminal, I'll agree, and a shitty situation for everyone involved that should never have been passed.

However, depending on the local laws, the employer may only be allowed to reduce base pay by an amount equal to the tips, or may be required to increase base pay in the case of poor tips.

The situation is not as simple as is often discussed, and not tipping does not automatically deprive someone of their livelihood.

Also, as another side note, automatic gratuities can be refused legally.

carnage11
04-10-2011, 12:11 PM
IIRC, he requested a temp ban that's supposed to be lifted sometime this month.

Was it this month? What a coincidence then.


Oh, yeah! Bars!

I tip at least 1.50 per order (so if two drinks are eight bucks, I just leave a ten). I always tip bartenders well, especially at places I go on a regular basis. If you tip well they're more attentive to you, they relax a bit when dealing with you, and your drinks usually get larger/stronger.

This is true. The more money you throw at a bartender the drunker they will want you to be, because then you're more likely to get more generous, thus making themselves more money.

I always hate stingy bartenders. My tip is directly related to the quality of the drink (mixed drink). If it's a beer they get a buck. If it's a bucket of beer they get like $2 or $3. If ordering from the bar through a server I will tip the bartender separately after the meal, based on quality. On the flip-side, I also hate trying to get a drink at a very busy bar or club like atmosphere because the bartenders are so busy they don't have time to even see what you're tipping them they just grab the money and run and then it'd be a different bartender the next round. So it doesn't even matter. I will usually throw them an extra dollar regardless of the drink in this case. The drinks are usually quickly and shitly made anyways.

It's also good to remember, it's not necessary to tip a bartender if ordering drinks at a restaurant through a server because the server generally has to tip out that bartender a percentage at the end of the night anyways.

AntonThaGreat
04-10-2011, 12:16 PM
I don't view the first 15% as a tip, I just see it as part of the wait staff's regular wages, because I know that the restaurant is allowed to pay them less than a worker in a different industry.

As I said, if someone really treated me like shit I'd talk to their manager and/or refuse to return to the business. I'm not going to dock someone's regular salary because of it. I'll leave that to the employer/employee relationship.

If I went into a retail store and an employee was rude/inconsiderate/incredibly slow I'd consider reporting their behavior or boycotting the business in the future, but I wouldn't expect that I could unilaterally decide to dock their wages for the day.

Ink, on this, you're a little too altruistic. You have to vote with your dollar, man.

J Arcane
04-10-2011, 12:19 PM
Ink, on this, you're a little too altruistic. You have to vote with your dollar, man.
Unfortunately, it doesn't really help.

IME, waitstaff have a tendency to feel extremely entitled to their tips, and the notion of a poor tip being indicative of their own performance would never actually occur to them.

They will blame the customer, they will blame the food, the cook, the lamps, anything but their own incompetence.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 01:04 PM
Ink, on this, you're a little too altruistic. You have to vote with your dollar, man.

I will vote with my dollar by not giving a higher tip and by not returning to that restaurant. While I will deny a worker an extra bonus and future business I won't deny them an expected part of their regular salary.

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 01:05 PM
They will blame the customer, they will blame the food, the cook, the lamps, anything but their own incompetence.

Which is why if you really want to send a message about a worker's poor behavior you'll speak to the management before you leave.

Serapth
04-10-2011, 01:08 PM
Ink, on this, you're a little too altruistic. You have to vote with your dollar, man.

Funny how morals and altruism can so interchanged based on perspective.

resikel
04-10-2011, 01:09 PM
Question: Tip calculated before OR after tax? Or do you just multiply the tax by 2 for the tip.

(In my area tax is 9.25% on average so just doubling the tax would yield 18.5% tipping...with me usually rounding it up to $xxx.00)

So I guess it's 3 possible options:

(1) Before tax
(2) After tax
(3) Multiple tax by 2

Ink Asylum
04-10-2011, 01:16 PM
Tip is typically computed before tax. As tax is usually around 8.5% doubling it gets you to 17% of the price of the meal, which is a solid tip.

Suave Peanut
04-10-2011, 01:50 PM
I double the tax and round up to make my total to the nearest $2.50.

Dukefrukem
04-10-2011, 02:02 PM
Just curious what people tip in the following scenarios?

Valet, drop off. $0
Valet, day trip out/in. $5
Valet, leaving. $5
Bellhop, delivering bags. $5
Room service. $5
Haircut. $5
Taxi ride, under 5 minute. $2-3
Taxi ride, over. $5
Meal out, under 20$ 20%
Meal out, 20-50$ no booze 20%
Meal out, 20-50$ with booze 20%
Meal out, 50-150$ 20%
Meal out, 150+ 20%
Pizza Delivery, no fee. $5
Pizza Delivery, with service fee. $5
Movers. $20 each
Cleaning service/maid $5
Coffee shop, to go. ?? $0
Coffee shop, staying. huh?
Massage, legit, no happy ending. N/A

In all above scenarios, assume average or better but not omg wow service.

If you think of categories i missed, add em.

tipping fees

Superman's Dead
04-10-2011, 02:36 PM
tipping fees

The coffee shop staying is like hanging out at a table all day, buying a cup or two. Since you're taking up space that a new customer could conceivably be using, it's nice to throw a few bucks in the tip jar if you're there longer than an hour.

Dukefrukem
04-10-2011, 02:37 PM
The coffee shop staying is like hanging out at a table all day, buying a cup or two. Since you're taking up space that a new customer could conceivably be using, it's nice to throw a few bucks in the tip jar if you're there longer than an hour.

So it's the same thing as tipping 20% then, which is what i do for anything that involves service with food. I don't buy the "taking up the spot where a new customer could be using". I'm a customer. Same could be said at restaurants then.

Superman's Dead
04-10-2011, 02:49 PM
So it's the same thing as tipping 20% then, which is what i do for anything that involves service with food. I don't buy the "taking up the spot where a new customer could be using". I'm a customer. Same could be said at restaurants then.

Right, right, it's just that some people less highly minded than you buy a cup of coffee and hang out at the best seat in the coffee shop with their laptop all day without tipping, and there's no turnover on that table. Which, here in Los Angeles, is frighteningly often.

Everyone is working on a script at Starbucks. Everyone.

Dukefrukem
04-10-2011, 02:52 PM
Right, right, it's just that some people less highly minded than you buy a cup of coffee and hang out at the best seat in the coffee shop with their laptop all day without tipping, and there's no turnover on that table. Which, here in Los Angeles, is frighteningly often.

Everyone is working on a script at Starbucks. Everyone.

Gotcha. That reminds me of this:

APATLrEte9s

Superman's Dead
04-10-2011, 02:58 PM
That is every building in Los Angeles that has the word 'coffee' written anywhere on anything inside of it.

J Arcane
04-10-2011, 03:04 PM
The closest I get to writing in public is hiding in a disused corner of a library somewhere.

evilgoodwin
04-10-2011, 03:07 PM
The closest I get to writing in public is hiding in a disused corner of a library somewhere.

I'm the same way, but only for school. I have to be physically AT school to write anything, because I'm a bad student who can't get motivated to do work on time when I'm at home.

Handmade.Mercury
04-10-2011, 03:32 PM
I'm the same way, but only for school. I have to be physically AT school to write anything, because I'm a bad student who can't get motivated to do work on time when I'm at home.

Consider yourself lucky. I would probably be the same way (getting work done AT school), but it never works out because I can never work up enough motivation to GO to school.

TheKeck
04-10-2011, 06:33 PM
I always calculate my tip after tax. I guess that probably puts me in the 18-23% range. :p

Urizen
04-11-2011, 03:39 PM
Wait. Taxi drivers don't get 20%?

WTF!!

For the anniversary this year, the wife and I had the most expensive dinner of our lives. Dinner came to $370, after tax, with no gratuity included. Still dropped 20% even though a $75 tip looked and felt strange as hell. It was definitely one of the top 5 service experiences we've ever had in a restaurant. Only two other meals were definitely as good:

Shibuya at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas
Sens at the Embarcadero Center in San Francisco

Add to that list:

Providence in West Los Angeles

It's a whole other experience when the servers take the time to learn your names and develop a conversation through the meal throughout the night. Special requests were honored. Great, great experiences where it's about so much more than the food.

Valet always gets $3. Room service gets nothing actually, where a service charge was included in the tip. Always leave $3 to $5 in a hotel room dresser for the maid service.

Sandman
04-11-2011, 03:48 PM
You forgot cows.