Who would you vote right now in a Canadian Election?

[MalReynolds]

and yes this is for Canadians only! please

[Ink Asylum]

Dudley Do-Right

[biosc1]

Conservatives.

Better the devil you know.

NDP wants to tax tax tax...Liberals have no leadership and have some pretty crappy tech policies.

[MalReynolds]

Hate the liberal leader

[AntonThaGreat]

For someone whose not Canadian, what are the individual parties platforms?

[biosc1]

For someone whose not Canadian, what are the individual parties platforms?

Conservatives - Status quo which has been pretty good as we have weathered the economic storm very well.

Liberals - No one really knows hence my comment on their lack of leadership above. What I do know is that they are pro-DMCA/protecting dinosaur industries. TrackZero has memo from his local liberal candidate that is pretty horrid.

NDP - Tax the rich, prop up the poor. Their leader is pretty charismatic and he's actually not a bad choice except he seems to be all about raising the tax on the rich/corporations along with more spending in the budget. In a time such as now, more spending/discouraging business is not really the best thing right now. They suffer from calling out the opposition, but not providing any strong solutions.

Parti-Quebecois - A non-party outside of Quebec...pro everything Quebec. They usually just cause trouble due to taking seats away from other parties.

[TheKeck]

Bloc sounds the coolest to me.

[jpublic]

Here's my stance:

1) I want a majority. I don't really care whom, but I want one so whomever's in power can get some actual work done.
2) I approve of the Tories intention to keep more money in my pocket, and I somewhat approve of their 'tough on crime' aims, but otherwise, I'm not a fan. I'd prefer the Libs are in power because I like more of their social plans, and their tax policy tends to be not too bad.
3) The main problem with the Liberals is Ignatieff is a sleaze, and I don't trust him to do anything but end up as another Chretien, and for us to have a bunch of massive corruption scandals after a couple years. He's scum, and the biggest hindrance to the Liberals right now.
4) The Tory MP for my riding is a hyper-religious, hyper-conservative nutbar whom I can't even bring myself to talk to without wanting to wash myself, let alone vote for.

[Wackman3000]

No one, just like I always do.

[roboninja]

Probably Green, unless some other small-party candidate catches my eye. Bring on the minority governments, please. If I do not agree with any of the main choices, why would I want them to have majority power?

[Dorkandproudofit]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2e3n97r.jpg
But more to get rid of her.

[carnage11]

I didn't vote as I'm not Canadian, but I did want to throw my opinion in here. I wish you guys would vote to someone with some balls and I wish your government would stand up to the US and go ahead and legalize pot already, like ya'll have been wanting to do for years. You need a President that will tell the US to fuck right off. As it stands right now, you've got a big pussy running the country.

[Serapth]

Bring back Martin and I would vote Liberal, but no fucking way I will vote for this shithead.

The NDP would bankrupt Canada in about 20 minutes, but fortunately they have about the same chances of getting elected as I do getting hit by a meteor.

So PC it is, again, even if I don't much like Harper. The fact we are were we are financially is a credit to our government who ignored the Liberals, Bloq and Ndp calling to spend spend spend.

Oh, and the Bloq is a good part of the reason why I think Quebec can go fuck itself... once it repays its portion of the debt that is.

[jpublic]

Probably Green, unless some other small-party candidate catches my eye. Bring on the minority governments, please. If I do not agree with any of the main choices, why would I want them to have majority power?

Because these minority governments, especially with the wide gulf between parties, only means we get stupidly frequent elections and no one has any chance to anything significant.

I don't particularly want the Tories in power, but I'd rather they had a majority than another minority government.

I didn't vote as I'm not Canadian, but I did want to throw my opinion in here. I wish you guys would vote to someone with some balls and I wish your government would stand up to the US and go ahead and legalize pot already, like ya'll have been wanting to do for years. You need a President that will tell the US to fuck right off. As it stands right now, you've got a big pussy running the country.

Uh, yeah, let's tell our biggest trading partner, who happens to be hypermilitarized and who needs our natural resources, to fuck off. Are you insane?

[Jackel]

Because these minority governments, especially with the wide gulf between parties, only means we get stupidly frequent elections and no one has any chance to anything significant.

I don't particularly want the Tories in power, but I'd rather they had a majority than another minority government.



Uh, yeah, let's tell our biggest trading partner, who happens to be hypermilitarized and who needs our natural resources, to fuck off. Are you insane?

It sure seems easy for an American to make that suggestion doesn't it. LOL
(I'm a Canadian living in America)

[carnage11]

Uh, yeah, let's tell our biggest trading partner, who happens to be hypermilitarized and who needs our natural resources, to fuck off. Are you insane?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Grow some balls man! Doesn't the US get a lot of their oil from Canada? You have a hold of us by the short and curlys. You guys just need to take charge. Don't talk about militarization either. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Canada should make friends with China. Then the US would be fucked.

[carnage11]

It sure seems easy for an American to make that suggestion doesn't it. LOL
(I'm a Canadian living in America)

Yes, easy for me to say. I see how we (the US) push everyone around, but no one has to take it. Think about history, how has it gone for other empires in the past that were pushy like the US? Rome? Greece? They all destroyed themselves due to greed. It's no different now. The US is already on it's way out.

[Serapth]

It sure seems easy for an American to make that suggestion doesn't it. LOL
(I'm a Canadian living in America)

Lol, im a Canadian living in America too :)

[biosc1]

I didn't vote as I'm not Canadian, but I did want to throw my opinion in here. I wish you guys would vote to someone with some balls and I wish your government would stand up to the US and go ahead and legalize pot already, like ya'll have been wanting to do for years. You need a President that will tell the US to fuck right off. As it stands right now, you've got a big pussy running the country.

Trust me, you would hate legalized pot...It's already essentially decriminalized. Legalizing it would mean adding a ton of bureaucratic red tape and taxes. Don't expect you'll be allowed to grow 50 plants in your basement and sell it on the street.

As it stands, you can easily grow up to 5 plants without the legal system even giving a rats ass. In BC, at least, you can grow up to 49 plants and they'll just raid your house (if they find you) and take all your equipment (extremely rare to even get a criminal charge). Over 50 plants and then it's a "growing for the purposes of trafficking" charges.

[Panthera]

I'm kinda surprised to see so many conservative votes here.

[Serapth]

I'm kinda surprised to see so many conservative votes here.

I am voting conservative but for the record, I voted liberal when Cretian and Martin headed the party. In the last few elections it really has been a matter of choosing the lesser evil.

[Ox]

I love how Americans feel so entitled to boss Canada around that we're now ordering them to stand up for themselves. And the Canadians are just kind of politely bewildered. This is my new favorite thread.

P.S. The reference to the Canadian "President" is just icing.

[Serapth]

I love how Americans feel so entitled to boss Canada around that we're now ordering them to stand up for themselves. And the Canadians are just kind of politely bewildered. This is my new favorite thread.

P.S. The reference to the Canadian "President" is just icing.



Bewildered is probably the wrong word... resigned?

I mean we have a sitcom that is pretty much about American ignorance and Canada's global insignificane. If you get the chance, check out This Hour Has 22 Minutes. Political humour done well.

[biosc1]

I'm kinda surprised to see so many conservative votes here.

Really? You need to listen to local radio/read papers.

There appears to be an intense growing anger placed squarely on the shoulders of the Liberals and the NDP for disbanding the government and causing the expense of an election at this time.

Basically, there was zero advantage for the NDP or Liberals to cause this election to happen. At the minimum, the Conservatives will get a minority government again. At the worst (for the NDP/Liberals), the Conservatives will get a majority.

It reeks of zero foresight on the part of the opposition parties.

[Panthera]

Really? You need to listen to local radio/read papers.

There appears to be an intense growing anger placed squarely on the shoulders of the Liberals and the NDP for disbanding the government and causing the expense of an election at this time.

Basically, there was zero advantage for the NDP or Liberals to cause this election to happen. At the minimum, the Conservatives will get a minority government again. At the worst (for the NDP/Liberals), the Conservatives will get a majority.

It reeks of zero foresight on the part of the opposition parties.

No, I'm fully aware that there are plenty of people of that opinion. I just didn't think it would be enough to sway members of this forum so fully.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Let me get this straight - you've got a Block Party?

[ShivaX]

Let me get this straight - you've got a Block Party?

Is Dave Chappelle there? We haven't seen him in a while.

[Narradisall]

Canada has leadership?

I thought you all just milled about north of America, chopping down trees and sending bewildered Americans home when they crossed over expecting snow to be right the other side of the border?

[Serapth]

Canada has leadership?

I thought you all just milled about north of America, chopping down trees and sending bewildered Americans home when they crossed over expecting snow to be right the other side of the border?

No, we actually all have buckets of snow waiting nearby to really fuck with those Americans.

[Narradisall]

No, we actually all have buckets of snow waiting nearby to really fuck with those Americans.

I sense a business opportunity here.....

[Serapth]

I sense a business opportunity here.....

I literally am neighbors with the most iconic tourist attraction in Canada(*), so my chances to fuck with tourists is legion.


(*) not Niagra Falls

[biosc1]

I literally am neighbors with the most iconic tourist attraction in Canada(*), so my chances to fuck with tourists is legion.


(*) not Niagra Falls

Hockey Hall of Fame? ;)

[Serapth]

Hockey Hall of Fame? ;)

Actually within a km, so... Sorta. Smartass. :)

[Ox]

The American embassy?

[carnage11]

A big pot plant?

[Esquilax1138]

For all that picked Other, who do you have in mind? Green Party is the only one not in the poll, but no one votes for them, so it must be either a joke or protest vote. It's too bad Richard the Troll (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=92596c7d-467a-4ce2-b092-3cc60cb62042) is dead :(

[roboninja]

For all that picked Other, who do you have in mind? Green Party is the only one not in the poll, but no one votes for them, so it must be either a joke or protest vote. It's too bad Richard the Troll (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=92596c7d-467a-4ce2-b092-3cc60cb62042) is dead :(

I don't buy into the whole "wasting your vote" bullshit. Change has to start somewhere, and it will never happen if you resign yourself to voting for the best of the shit platter that are the main parties. If you actually agree with the platform of one of those parties, more power to you. I do not, so they do not get my vote.

[TheFlyingOrc]

I literally am neighbors with the most iconic tourist attraction in Canada(*), so my chances to fuck with tourists is legion.


(*) not Niagra Falls

Connecticut?

[carnage11]

I don't buy into the whole "wasting your vote" bullshit. Change has to start somewhere, and it will never happen if you resign yourself to voting for the best of the shit platter that are the main parties. If you actually agree with the platform of one of those parties, more power to you. I do not, so they do not get my vote.

This is how I feel as well. Unfortunately, I vote for the green party at election, and I can't help but feeling I threw my vote away, as the guy never even stands a change. Usually getting around 1% of the vote. :(

I voted Ron Paul last election. :p

[diablopath]

Learn to vote strategically, mofucka.

[Doogie2K]

Thread necro, with the election happening right now.

I already know how my riding's going to turn out (hint: blue), but I went and voted anyway, because I felt like I should.

[Serapth]

I voted PC, better the devil you know. No that I particularly liked the PC party. Hell, I voted Liberal right up until the end of Paul Martins run.

[Doogie2K]

That's a fancy trick, since the PC party hasn't existed nationally in several years. ;)

[biosc1]

That's a fancy trick, since the PC party hasn't existed nationally in several years. ;)

I voted Reform! I thought the piece of paper looked 10 years old...

[Serapth]

That's a fancy trick, since the PC party hasn't existed nationally in several years. ;)

Change only occurred if you acknowledge that it occurred!

[Serapth]

I voted Reform!

I miss Preeeeesssssssttttttoooon.

Actually I mostly just miss the way he was portrayed on This Hour has 22 Minutes.

[Doogie2K]

I miss Preeeeesssssssttttttoooon.

Actually I mostly just miss the way he was portrayed on This Hour has 22 Minutes.

I love that word Refoooooooooooooooooooooorm!

So sad that half the original troupe is now dead. I'd love to see how they'd play this sudden, absurd Laytonmania.

[biosc1]

So, Conservative majority, NDP opposition. I am surprised at the downfall of the Liberals and the Bloc. I definitely wasn't expected them to take such a hit.

It's funny reading what some of my wife's friends are saying on Facebook...you would think Bush was elected our President or something...

Is Harper really considered such an evil person by so many people? Or just the vocal hippies?

[Hyperglide]

I didn't get a chance to head up to the Polls today. If I was able to I was swayed to the NDP at the last second, but I probably would've voted PC. Definitely no way I was voting Bloc (Duceppe is a joke) and Liberal (Ignatieff is the biggest sleaze since Chretien).

[Hyperglide]

So, Conservative majority, NDP opposition. I am surprised at the downfall of the Liberals and the Bloc. I definitely wasn't expected them to take such a hit.

It's funny reading what some of my wife's friends are saying on Facebook...you would think Bush was elected our President or something...

Is Harper really considered such an evil person by so many people? Or just the vocal hippies?

I won't tell you how many times i've heard Harper as 'a Communist dog (or pig)' and is going to run our country into the ground. If I had a dollar for every time I heard that It would clear up our national deficit 10 fold. :D

[Serapth]

Yeah Harper is pretty stratifying. His pro military, pro global exposure is probably his defining love/hate characteristic. Me, after years of liberal abuse, which have lead directly to deaths ( Sea King bs ), I am ready to support the military and to stop riding on the US coattails for defense, as unpopular as that is in Canada. Plus I think the CPP is fucking toxic, so pouring more money in is fucking retarded.


On the flipside,Harper is such an unpersonable douche.

[biosc1]

Yah, Harper is definitely no Presidential candidate, but I have always voted party over leader during the years.

I am also one to support the fighter jets/helicopters because it's about time we stopped flying junk around. With all the money thrown at the blackhole that is healthcare, at least we can buy something that is tangible.

I also love this tweet from a business non-friend:

Congrats ElizabethMay #greenparty Your victory is an inspiration. Look forward to the change you alone will create.

Err...what?

[Serapth]

I think your friend was making a veiled insult, as she alone was elected from her party.

Or, he's an idiot.

[biosc1]

I think your friend was making a veiled insult, as she alone was elected from her party.

Or, he's an idiot.

Idiot.

Lots of idiots coming out of the woodwork saying things they can't defend/support.

[Doogie2K]

I'm mostly excited at just how fucking badly the Bloc exploded. They lost forty-something seats to the NDP alone. Eat a dick, separatists.

[Serapth]

I'm mostly excited at just how fucking badly the Bloc exploded. They lost forty-something seats to the NDP alone. Eat a dick, separatists.

Yes, that was epic.

[Panthera]

My favorite bit is that a western martial arts guy has a seat in parliament: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/Cannon+loses+newcomer+major+upset/4714916/story.html

We're infiltrating!

[Doogie2K]

So with Iggy out as Liberal leader, who's next? Will Ken Dryden take another kick at the can? I've heard Bob Rae's name come up a few times, but I seem to recall him poisoning the well in Ontario back in the day. Do the more politically-tuned have a better name, someone who can get Ontario and federalist Quebec back onside?

[Serapth]

So with Iggy out as Liberal leader, who's next? Will Ken Dryden take another kick at the can? I've heard Bob Rae's name come up a few times, but I seem to recall him poisoning the well in Ontario back in the day. Do the more politically-tuned have a better name, someone who can get Ontario and federalist Quebec back onside?

Yeah, if they went with Bob Rae, he would be lucky to get a single seat in Ontario. You can't win in Canada without Ontario.

Unless of course you somehow get the Quebec + Western Canada vote, but given how diametrically opposite these two factions are... yeah right.

[Doogie2K]

Yeah, if they went with Bob Rae, he would be lucky to get a single seat in Ontario. You can't win in Canada without Ontario.

Unless of course you somehow get the Quebec + Western Canada vote, but given how diametrically opposite these two factions are... yeah right.

Maybe the Bloc should try to court the Albertan separatist vote next election. Could hardly do worse.

Actually, as I was following the election results, I saw that the Bloc actually had the second-most votes in Quebec, but consistently got slammed by the NDP in all their old ridings. Was Layton courting the separatists or something?

[Serapth]

Maybe the Bloc should try to court the Albertan separatist vote next election. Could hardly do worse.

Actually, as I was following the election results, I saw that the Bloc actually had the second-most votes in Quebec, but consistently got slammed by the NDP in all their old ridings. Was Layton courting the separatists or something?

Oh very much so, as i said on Twitter, he promised them everything the Bloq did, plus a free pony each.

[Doogie2K]

Oh very much so, as i said on Twitter, he promised them everything the Bloq did, plus a free pony each.

And if there's one thing we've learned from this election: motherfuckers love ponies.