View Full Version : This Google Chrome thing is kinda sweet.
J Arcane
11-06-2008, 04:52 PM
Finally got around to actually trying it. There's no Mac version, and I do all my surfing on that, but at the moment I don't have room for both my Mac and my PC, so I'm running the PC ATM and figured I'd try it.
I like so far. It's speedy as fuck, though I haven't given it the full test of a tabbing spree on EvoTab yet.
n3rdXcore
11-06-2008, 04:58 PM
I want to try it out, I really do. But I cannot pull myself away from Firefox. What would I do without all my helpful (and a few completely unnecessary and not-helpful) extensions?
J Arcane
11-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Well, I loaded up this thing with like 10-12 tabs from different news sites and crap, and it still used less RAM and ran faster than FF3 does.
I'm impressed.
Now it just needs Adblock Plus, mouse gesture support, and FFVB. Fuck, just throw in addon support.
JayVe
11-06-2008, 05:04 PM
I made the switch damn quick to Google Chrome.
Yes, it does not have some of the plugins I used in Firefox, but the experience is so much nicer. I spend 90% of my PC time in a browser, and anything that makes the experience faster and more stable is of prime importance to me.
Extensions, add-ons, and enhancements will come. If you want, there is another version of chrome called Chromium (http://code.google.com/chromium/).
jeffbax
11-06-2008, 05:33 PM
Finally got around to actually trying it. There's no Mac version, and I do all my surfing on that, but at the moment I don't have room for both my Mac and my PC, so I'm running the PC ATM and figured I'd try it.
I like so far. It's speedy as fuck, though I haven't given it the full test of a tabbing spree on EvoTab yet.
Chrome is based upon WebKit which is what drives Safari already. They have some different graphical and text libraries (rounded corners/shadows/some advanced CSS3 and text in chrome can't really compare to that of Safari's yet). Different Javascript engines, although Squirrelfish for WebKit is the current speed champ.
I love using Chrome on Windows, but it seems no faster than running WebKit/Safari on Mac already. Its nice that its got isolated threads per tab though.
J Arcane
11-06-2008, 05:44 PM
I find Safari on Mac clunky and overrated.
If you want speed on Mac side, go for Camino. It's the only Firefox derivative still living up to the original goals of FF.
GigaFuzz
11-06-2008, 05:52 PM
I have been using Chrome as my main browser for a few weeks now. I love the speed and simple, good looking interface. I never used many Firefox extentions, so I'm not really missing that functionality.
The Doctor
11-06-2008, 07:11 PM
I'm very impressed by Chrome. It's not at a point where I'd like to replace Firefox yet, but it has a whole lot of promise.
Ravenlock
11-06-2008, 07:54 PM
I used Chrome for a few weeks after it first came out, and while I am back on FF now (using the 3.1 beta, which has comparable Google Apps performance to Chrome thanks to a new JS engine), I have to say Chrome really impressed me. Honestly, the only interface weaknesses I noted were:
- No way to view a list of my open tabs. The drop-down list of tabs in FF gets used constantly when I browse, and I really didn't like having to scroll around to find the tab I wanted.
- Speaking of which, the mouse scroll wheel should in some way be used to switch tabs. Either hold right click and scroll, as in Opera, or mouse over the tab bar and scroll, as in some FF extensions, whichever, but it's something I want.
Aside from that though, I really liked it, and it was definitely speedy.
astranoir
11-06-2008, 08:01 PM
I have been using Chrome since it came out. I like how sleek, quick and minimalist it is, while giving me a lot of screen real estate. (The screen real estate is particularly nice because I'm using an Acer Aspire One).
Libuke
11-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Anyway to get the middle mouse button to make the pages scroll quickly up and done like in firefox? Not just scrolling but when you click it that thingy and then you move the mouse up and down.
muddi900
11-06-2008, 09:29 PM
The awesome bar is too awesome to let go. So is AdBlock.
Xerxes
11-06-2008, 09:36 PM
I want to add-on support. Then I'll jump ship.
TheEpicOfTyler
11-06-2008, 09:37 PM
Anyway to get the middle mouse button to make the pages scroll quickly up and done like in firefox? Not just scrolling but when you click it that thingy and then you move the mouse up and down.
Biggest reason I had for dropping Chrome.
JayVe
11-06-2008, 10:12 PM
I find Safari on Mac clunky and overrated.
If you want speed on Mac side, go for Camino. It's the only Firefox derivative still living up to the original goals of FF.
Agree wholeheartedly
J Arcane
11-06-2008, 10:13 PM
The awesome bar is too awesome to let go. So is AdBlock.
AwesomeBar is pretty awesome. I rarely remember a URL of a place I've been, but a title or a keyword, that's easy.
Makes it so I never even really need bookmarks.
PathMaster
11-06-2008, 10:14 PM
I too love the screen real estate, but I love my NoScript and Adblock more.
Cyrillus
11-06-2008, 11:20 PM
Reading this thread, I decided to give it a try (I never bothered installing it back when it was released, I was happy with FF). I am very, very impressed with the minimalist look of it! However, addon support is necessary for me to consider dropping Firefox. If they implement that, I would gladly trade it in for this, as pages load faster, and it just feels sleeker.
n3rdXcore
11-07-2008, 01:46 AM
Anyway to get the middle mouse button to make the pages scroll quickly up and done like in firefox? Not just scrolling but when you click it that thingy and then you move the mouse up and down.
If Chrome does not support this feature then I will definitely never switch to hit. Clicking in the middle mouse button is my most common way to scroll around webpages.
harle
11-07-2008, 02:09 AM
I am in love with Chrome. Firefox felt a bit clunky. Chrome is extremely fast and has a minimalistic design.
diablopath
11-07-2008, 08:16 PM
I got angry at it within 5 second of using it because I didn't see a bookmarks pull down, nor a home button.
I'm not sure if they exist.
JayVe
11-07-2008, 08:24 PM
I got angry at it within 5 second of using it because I didn't see a bookmarks pull down, nor a home button.
I'm not sure if they exist.
They do, but you might need to let go of your pre-conceived notions a bit in order to get a better browsing experience.
Give it a week to see if it will change your mind. You still don't like it after a week, then you've given it a fair shakedown.
diablopath
11-07-2008, 08:50 PM
They do, but you might need to let go of your pre-conceived notions a bit in order to get a better browsing experience.
Give it a week to see if it will change your mind. You still don't like it after a week, then you've given it a fair shakedown.
I intend to do just this.
It's taking forever to download, I'm not sure what the fuck is up.
Lint of Death
11-08-2008, 10:56 AM
I got angry at it within 5 second of using it because I didn't see a bookmarks pull down, nor a home button.
I'm not sure if they exist.
There is a bookmarks pull-down, the problem is that by default you're only able to see it on a home tab (one that has been opened without going to any sites). You can change that and make it always visible. The interface for creating new bookmarks out of visiting websites is great.
As for a Home button, I don't see one, but I guess it's not so bad just opening a new tab.
It's not easy to notice, but it is possible to reopen recently closed tabs from the home one. It doesn't seem to bother remembering the tabs for very long, though - maybe that can be changed in settings.
biosc1
11-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Okay, I've been using it for a few days and I have to say I'm actually pretty happy with it. Now, if only I can get some mouse gesture support...
I tried this browser out initially when it first came out, but I didn't really see it being very fast, it would choke up on "the site which shall not be named" and generally run poorly. So, I stuck with Firefox.
Now, I've re-installed it again and realized that the initial computer (my work one) just sucks. Now that it's on my home pc, it's blazing fast and it's really giving Firefox a run for it's money on my home pc. I'm using it more and more.
Troggles
11-08-2008, 12:08 PM
You can make it show the home button by going into Options and clicking "Show home button on the toolbar."
J Arcane
11-08-2008, 12:09 PM
I haven't used a home button in years. That's what the book mark bar is for.
c0m3d14n
11-08-2008, 12:23 PM
i fear the google overlords
muddi900
11-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Chrome needs the AwesomeBar. Because firefox is acting weid on some sites,like Wikipedia, showing all text in bold. It hurts my eyes.
Fuck man, chrome shows it in italic. I am switching to my first love: Opera.
EDIT: They seem t have fucked up Opera as well, as you can only place bookmarks on the sidebar instead of the toolbar and they open in tiny super-sidebars.
Edit-REDEUX: WTF? Wikipedia is italic in Opera as well.
J Arcane
11-08-2008, 03:53 PM
When every browser gives you problems, it's time to start considering that it's not the browser that's the problem.
I recommend a thorough anti-malware scanning regiment to start with.
muddi900
11-08-2008, 04:02 PM
No spyware and viruses found. I schedule scans regularly. The onlything thats weird is the chracter encoding on everybrowser. Maybe its the IE8 beta, doing MS's evil handiwork.
EDIT: What kind of lame ass malware screws up character encoding?
J Arcane
11-08-2008, 04:03 PM
Ewww. Why the hell would you install a beta version of IE? IE's bad enough when it's "release" stage.
tombofsoldier
11-08-2008, 04:28 PM
Finally got around to actually trying it. There's no Mac version, and I do all my surfing on that, but at the moment I don't have room for both my Mac and my PC, so I'm running the PC ATM and figured I'd try it.
I like so far. It's speedy as fuck, though I haven't given it the full test of a tabbing spree on EvoTab yet.
One of the devs told me that they're working on a Mac version right now. I like it but I want plugins.
J Arcane
11-08-2008, 04:43 PM
One of the devs told me that they're working on a Mac version right now. I like it but I want plugins.
Yeah, there's a mailing list sign up link if you go to the page on a Mac. I know it's in progress, it's just not out yet, which I was a bit bummed about.
JayVe
11-08-2008, 07:00 PM
One of the things Google apps seem to do very well is reduce the 'feature creep'. Instead of cramming something full of feature-itis, the Google chaps seem to very deliberately add things that are necessary, streamlining tons of crap that isn't necessary.
I LOVE how Chrome's tabs are at the TOP of the window. This means that each tab, is essentially infinitely big. Let me explain:
When I want to switch tabs in IE or Firefox, I have to move the mouse cursor up, but then stop it before it hits the top of the screen. In Chrome, the tabs are at the very top of the monitor. You can simply 'throw' your cursor to the top of the screen to select a tab. There is no way to vertically 'overshoot' a tab in Chrome (at least, when full screen).
These kind of small interface enhancements are designed around the way people USE browsers.
User-centric design FTW
Skull3r
11-09-2008, 01:38 AM
Anybody have any information on when google is releasing a mac version? I found it very strange that they did not have a mac version available with the windows on the first day. I know its just a beta... but technically, gmail is still in beta phase.
muddi900
11-09-2008, 09:18 AM
every google service I've ever used is still in beta. I think google groups took 10 years of "beta" and I've been using their social network, Orkut(which is quite popular here) for 4 years and that is still in beta.
JayVe
11-09-2008, 04:27 PM
Anybody have any information on when google is releasing a mac version? I found it very strange that they did not have a mac version available with the windows on the first day. I know its just a beta... but technically, gmail is still in beta phase.
Mac versions usually take time.
Is there a Mac version of Picasa yet?
Not even Firefox launched v3 with a Mac version at the same time as the Windows version.
Besides, Macs have Safari. Why would you want anytying else? :cool:
Skull3r
11-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Actually, on the whole mac browser debate, I am right now preferring firefox (after numerous switches between the three). I know safari is supposed to be faster with html pages, but with the few addons that I do use, firefox is a much better experience. And also, technically, windows has safari too ;)
AbeLincoln
11-09-2008, 04:51 PM
I just can't let go of my extensions. Sure chrome has those little interface tweaks and sleekness. But I really really can't stand to not have mouse gestures anymore... If I'm on a computer and going to need to browse for an extended period of time, FF and mouse gestures get added...
Karak
11-09-2008, 07:29 PM
I just finally gave up. It wasn't any faster than my settings for Opera and has about 1/4 the options. Maybe when it makes some more headway.
Generation ABXY
11-09-2008, 10:08 PM
For some inexplicable reason, I prefer IE to FF, but I am going to give Chrome a try this week. Also, count me among those who was thrown for a loop by the whole bookmarks thing - I was like, "Okay, I bookmarked it...now how the hell do I get to it?" And, minutes later: "Give me my damn site, you little bastard!"
J Arcane
11-10-2008, 11:40 AM
Actually, on the whole mac browser debate, I am right now preferring firefox (after numerous switches between the three). I know safari is supposed to be faster with html pages, but with the few addons that I do use, firefox is a much better experience. And also, technically, windows has safari too ;)
Windows Safari is absolutely horrid, for pretty much the same reasons all Apple Windows software is horrid. Apple refuses to do things the Windows way, so every last function gets rewritten and done in Apple's own proprietary libraries. Fuck, they even use their own window drawing routines.
And really, I wasn't at all impressed with Safari's supposed "speed". It's not bad, but even on the Mac it's a clunky and bloated program that really ate more system footprint than I was willing to tolerate for what it provided. I think even FF3 isn't as bad as Safari was.
J Arcane
11-10-2008, 11:43 AM
For some inexplicable reason, I prefer IE to FF, but I am going to give Chrome a try this week. Also, count me among those who was thrown for a loop by the whole bookmarks thing - I was like, "Okay, I bookmarked it...now how the hell do I get to it?" And, minutes later: "Give me my damn site, you little bastard!"
I know it's hard to avoid man, but seriously, you owe it to yourself to stay the fuck away from IE, for security reasons alone.
I went through my own IE-using phase a few years ago, and it was nice that because of how embedded in Windows it is, it did tend to be pretty damn quick, especially compared to FF at the time, which was in the worst of it's memory leak period.
That changed rather rapidly when I clicked on one wrong GIS link and suddenly got a massive malware bomb that wound up requiring a wipe and reinstall to fully remove.
diablopath
11-11-2008, 03:10 PM
So far, Chrome is better in every aspect than FF, except for one thing I use all the time in FF:
When you're at a page, you can just start typing a phrase and it'll automatically search that page for that phrase.
I do not yet see this in Chrome, does it exist?
J Arcane
11-11-2008, 03:20 PM
So far, Chrome is better in every aspect than FF, except for one thing I use all the time in FF:
When you're at a page, you can just start typing a phrase and it'll automatically search that page for that phrase.
I do not yet see this in Chrome, does it exist?
From the new tab page, you can search your browser history.
It's not as quick access as Firefox's, but the functionality is still pretty much there.
diablopath
11-11-2008, 03:41 PM
From the new tab page, you can search your browser history.
It's not as quick access as Firefox's, but the functionality is still pretty much there.
Not in the way I prefer.
I usually use it to find a keyword on a page or something, so doing it your route wouldn't be productive in the way I like to be.
Minor flaw.
When they allow extensions, I'm sure it'll pop up there.
JayVe
11-11-2008, 03:44 PM
Not in the way I prefer.
I usually use it to find a keyword on a page or something, so doing it your route wouldn't be productive in the way I like to be.
Minor flaw.
When they allow extensions, I'm sure it'll pop up there.
try ctrl+F to search a page for a phrase
Edit: I believe it the exact same key command in Firefox to pull up the in-page search
J Arcane
11-11-2008, 03:45 PM
Err, what Kam said. I thought you were talking about something totally different (AwesomebBar).
Inspector Fowler
11-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Will we ever get browser shit sorted out?
Firefox, for me, didn't work with some Flash pages. As in, you'd click or something was supposed to be happening, and it wouldn't work.
IE is supposedly a security nightmare and the latest version freezes/locks up on me pretty often.
Chrome is just fine but it doesn't display some websites correctly, and I still have weird problems ala Firefox (example - when trying to log into my mortgage company's site, it accepts my username and password, but when I click to login it simply refreshes the login page - IE handles this page just fine).
JayVe
11-12-2008, 09:41 AM
Chrome is just fine but it doesn't display some websites correctly, and I still have weird problems ala Firefox (example - when trying to log into my mortgage company's site, it accepts my username and password, but when I click to login it simply refreshes the login page - IE handles this page just fine).
Write to your mortgage company and tell them to get their page compliant with web standards.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 10:20 AM
From the new tab page, you can search your browser history.
It's not as quick access as Firefox's, but the functionality is still pretty much there.
I think he was talking about the awesomebar. Chrome doesn't have the awesome bar.
Also that font thing is really bothering me, I've done 3 different malware scans and none of them actually turned up anything. Can any of you guys help?
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 11:34 AM
I think he was talking about the awesomebar. Chrome doesn't have the awesome bar.
Also that font thing is really bothering me, I've done 3 different malware scans and none of them actually turned up anything. Can any of you guys help?
Well, actually he wasn't, hence how I got confused. Apparently he was talking about ctrl-f searching. In FF3 you don't actually have to hit a shortcut, you can just start typing.
As for Awesomebar, in some ways, the search history box works even better than Awesomebar, because it actually caches text from pages, so it doesn't just pull up titles, it can even find words in the page.
On the flipside, it only seems to cache a few days though, whereas unless you tell it to wipe the damn thing, FF keeps the page history in Awesomebar for damn ever.
GigaFuzz
11-13-2008, 11:37 AM
What does the Awesomebar do that the Chrome address bar doesn't BTW?
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 11:45 AM
What does the Awesomebar do that the Chrome address bar doesn't BTW?
Actually, now that I've checked it again, nothing. I just hadn't noticed it because of the difference in presentation and response.
The both are capable of the same thing (searching page title history instead of just addresses), though I do think FF3's is a little better.
JayVe
11-13-2008, 12:34 PM
Well, actually he wasn't, hence how I got confused. Apparently he was talking about ctrl-f searching. In FF3 you don't actually have to hit a shortcut, you can just start typing.
I just went and tried this, and it isn't the case for me. In Firefox, I need to hit Ctrl+F to open the little search bar at the bottom of the window. If I start typing my itself, nothing happens.
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 12:36 PM
I just went and tried this, and it isn't the case for me. In Firefox, I need to hit Ctrl+F to open the little search bar at the bottom of the window. If I start typing my itself, nothing happens.
Huh. Maybe he was confusing it with Opera? I know Opera can do that, I've never actually tried it in FF, I was just guessing.
JayVe
11-13-2008, 01:45 PM
I was just listening to a coworker bitch endlessly about the inability of Chrome to keep a list of all the places she'd been like Firefox does. I asked her, "Did you view your History?"
People love to hate.
Spectre-7
11-13-2008, 01:52 PM
Huh. Maybe he was confusing it with Opera? I know Opera can do that, I've never actually tried it in FF, I was just guessing.
In Opera, you hit . to start an inline search by default. Firefox can be configured to Search for text when I start typing. All you need to do is go to Options->Advanced->General and check the appropriate box.
DangerousDaze
11-13-2008, 01:57 PM
I love Chrome and have made it my browser of choice. If something doesn't render properly then I fall back to IE.
One of my fave features of Chrome (and one I'd love to see implemented everywhere) is that when you hit CTRL-F to do a find and enter your search term, not only does it take you to the hit but it also marks the location of every other hit in the vertical scroll bar. Nice.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 02:40 PM
The both are capable of the same thing (searching page title history instead of just addresses), though I do think FF3's is a little better.
The awesomebar(it feels redundant when you say it more than 3 times) recognizes phrases as well as keywords, it searches the web and sends you to the appropriate page. Eliminates the middleman,ie search engine, at least for at the user end. That is the reason I'm not switching to Chrome.
One thing both can use is a quicksilver/launchy like bookmark access.
I just went and tried this, and it isn't the case for me. In Firefox, I need to hit Ctrl+F to open the little search bar at the bottom of the window. If I start typing my itself, nothing happens.
I don't know what version of FF you're using but you're wrong.
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 02:56 PM
The awesomebar(it feels redundant when you say it more than 3 times) recognizes phrases as well as keywords, it searches the web and sends you to the appropriate page. Eliminates the middleman,ie search engine, at least for at the user end. That is the reason I'm not switching to Chrome.
Except Chrome's bar does all that.
some examples:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/J_Arcane/chromebar.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/J_Arcane/chromebar2.jpg
JayVe
11-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Except Chrome's bar does all that.
Automagic!
Sl1pstream
11-13-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm using Firefox again. I liked Chrome, but it missed a few features compared to FF (mostly add-ons, but still). It would've been fun if Chrome allowed me to export my bookmarks.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 03:12 PM
Except Chrome's bar does all that.
some examples:
snip*
I just tried it, it only searches your history. Or maybe I should update my client. Whats the current version? mine is 0.3.154.9!
Also, anyone who wants the Bookmarks drop down menu should try enabling the bookmarks tool bar.
for example: paste this in both; Pakistan forex rates
JayVe
11-13-2008, 03:20 PM
I just tried it, it only searches your history.
Try it again, and give it a second to return search results.
Edit: It suggests sites to me that I've never visited. Not many, but it looks like perhaps the top 1 or 2 google results.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 03:36 PM
Still nothing! probably something wrong with my system. But if I have to wait, its not as good as FF.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 03:53 PM
Edit: It suggests sites to me that I've never visited. Not many, but it looks like perhaps the top 1 or 2 google results.
sorry for the doublepost but in ff press enter and automagically you are at the relevant page. Type a movie name , you are at the imdb page, type just the feature of the software and you are there, etc. As for the bloat, well the addons are the real culprits.
Also, the middle-click browse thin is necessary for browsing blogs and forums. But google will come through!
JayVe
11-13-2008, 04:07 PM
sorry for the doublepost but in ff press enter and automagically you are at the relevant page. Type a movie name , you are at the imdb page, type just the feature of the software and you are there, etc. As for the bloat, well the addons are the real culprits.
This isn't how MY Firefox works. In my Firefox (v3.0.3), anything I type in the URL bar only pulls from my history and not from the Intertubes. Are you using a plugin for that feature?
It seems that, out of the box, the Chrome offers more functionality directly from the address bar.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 04:27 PM
No plugins. Suggestions are for pussies. Just press Enter!
Thats why its called the AwesomeBar++!:D
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 04:30 PM
sorry for the doublepost but in ff press enter and automagically you are at the relevant page. Type a movie name , you are at the imdb page, type just the feature of the software and you are there, etc. As for the bloat, well the addons are the real culprits.
Also, the middle-click browse thin is necessary for browsing blogs and forums. But google will come through!
Most browsers, if you type in a random phrase and hit enter, it'll just jump to the first result in it's default search engine. IE6 did it, FF2 did it, I think Opera did it, it's a common function. Chrome is different in this respect, but only in the sense that rather than just dumping you at the first page, it gives you the Google search result page instead.
JayVe
11-13-2008, 04:33 PM
No plugins. Suggestions are for pussies. Just press Enter!
Thats why its called the AwesomeBar++!:D
Hmm
According to the mozilla blog, the AwesomeBar only searches your history and favorites.
Dubbed the “AwesomeBar”, it lets you use the URL field of your browser to do a keyword search of your history and bookmarks. No longer do you have to know the domain of the page you’re looking for — the AwesomeBar will match what you’re typing (even multiple words!) against the URLs, page titles, and tags in your bookmarks and history, returning results sorted by “frecency” (an algorithm combining frequency + recency).I don't see anywhere where it will search Google for you without hitting a button.
muddi900
11-13-2008, 04:48 PM
Most browsers, if you type in a random phrase and hit enter, it'll just jump to the first result in it's default search engine. IE6 did it, FF2 did it, I think Opera did it, it's a common function. Chrome is different in this respect, but only in the sense that rather than just dumping you at the first page, it gives you the Google search result page instead.
IE6 and FF2 did it only with keywords. And you could search from the address bar since IE6.And searching google from the address bar was cool when Opera 7 came out. The phrase recognition is phenomenal in FF3.
Hmm
According to the mozilla blog, the AwesomeBar only searches your history and favorites.
I don't see anywhere where it will search Google for you without hitting a button.
Again I say, try pressing enter! Live search isn't really a big deal!
EDIT: I don't know about mozilla blog, but I never visit imdb, unless every 6 months for a new movie detail and every time I type a movie name, it goes directly to imdb.
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Hmm
According to the mozilla blog, the AwesomeBar only searches your history and favorites.
I don't see anywhere where it will search Google for you without hitting a button.
Type a random word in the address bar in FF3 and hit enter without hitting any other keys.
It'll first try to go to it as an address, then try a few basic permutations of possible addresses from said word, and then if that fails, it Google searches the word, and then automatically takes you to the first result on Google. You can actually see the steps if you watch the status bar at the bottom of the window.
If you wanna try testing this, type "fargle<enter>" into the address bars of both Chrome and FF3.
JayVe
11-13-2008, 05:24 PM
The Test: "fargle" [enter]
Results:
Chrome (http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS291&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=fargle)
FireFox (http://guide.opendns.com/?url=fargle&client=ff20)
???
J Arcane
11-13-2008, 05:32 PM
You've got some kind of plugin interference or somethin.
On my box, Chrome gives me a search result page with Urban Dictionary at the top result, while FF3 just jumps me directly to that Urban Dictionary page.
JayVe
11-13-2008, 09:26 PM
You've got some kind of plugin interference or somethin.
On my box, Chrome gives me a search result page with Urban Dictionary at the top result, while FF3 just jumps me directly to that Urban Dictionary page.
After a bit of digging, it appears that my DNS as configured on my router is kidnapping Firefox AwesomeBar requests. Weird.
muddi900
11-14-2008, 01:24 AM
You've got some kind of plugin interference or somethin.
On my box, Chrome gives me a search result page with Urban Dictionary at the top result, while FF3 just jumps me directly to that Urban Dictionary page.
Not always. It gives you the google page when the term is really general, like "Icon Pack", or really specific.
Again, getting a google page from the address bar was a feature in Opera and IE6 with google toolbar. Its kinda useless when most of the time I actually click on the first page anyway. Of course, it sucks when I do not want, but that really happened to me once.
After a bit of digging, it appears that my DNS as configured on my router is kidnapping Firefox AwesomeBar requests. Weird.
You using OpenDNS? It really winds my friend up when he comes over that it dumps you to the OpenDNS search page.
JayVe
11-14-2008, 07:36 AM
You using OpenDNS? It really winds my friend up when he comes over that it dumps you to the OpenDNS search page.
Seems like Chrome knows its way around the OpenDNS search. I'm cool with that. :D
MachEnergy
11-14-2008, 07:49 AM
I am jealous of you folks who are able to try out Chrome. When I installed it, something got borked. Every time I run the app, I get an application error at memory address 0xc0000005, and then it displays the "Oh snap" error tab. The same exact thing happened after uninstalling and reinstalling. Since Google throws up an "explain why you are uninstalling our software" webpage, I gave them very detailed descriptions of my errors. Hopefully, they'll get back to me....soon :D
Superman's Dead
11-14-2008, 10:21 AM
I downloaded it at the prompting of this thread and it does work pretty awesome...but it loads facebook SO SLOW.
J Arcane
11-14-2008, 12:06 PM
I downloaded it at the prompting of this thread and it does work pretty awesome...but it loads facebook SO SLOW.
Well, but that's because Facebook sucks. Can't blame the browser for a shitty site.
PathMaster
11-15-2008, 12:23 PM
The FF and OpenDNS relationship is a rocky one. Occasionally the search has worked fine, most of the time though it fails and brings me to OpenDNS. No idea what I do to make it work.
Inspector Fowler
11-17-2008, 11:46 PM
One thing that Chrome does REALLY pisses me off. Downloads automatically move to the bottom of the screen. Close the tab or the browser, and they disappear, like they never happened. WTF? Is it 1998 again? Do you want me to install a download manager, Chrome? Because FF and IE start my downloads in a separate window so that I can close the main browser window while my shit downloads.
J Arcane
11-18-2008, 12:02 AM
One thing that Chrome does REALLY pisses me off. Downloads automatically move to the bottom of the screen. Close the tab or the browser, and they disappear, like they never happened. WTF? Is it 1998 again? Do you want me to install a download manager, Chrome? Because FF and IE start my downloads in a separate window so that I can close the main browser window while my shit downloads.
If you close the tab, it still downloads, there's just no way to track the progress of the download.
Even when you open the Downloads tab, it gives you no real info about download progress.
I was rather annoyed with this as well.
DangerousDaze
11-18-2008, 02:57 AM
Couple more weakness of Chrome are: its printing abilities. No preview. No ability to scale. Just select printer options and go. No Image Properties on right-click menu. Digging through the Inspector isn't a good experience.If these functions exist and I just missed them please let me know!
appel
11-18-2008, 04:27 AM
If you close the tab, it still downloads, there's just no way to track the progress of the download.
Even when you open the Downloads tab, it gives you no real info about download progress.
I was rather annoyed with this as well.
It displays estimated time left, how much has been downloaded out of the total file size, and a progress bar (can you call it a bar when it's circular). What more do you need to know about the download progress? :)
appel
11-18-2008, 04:33 AM
Couple more weakness of Chrome are: its printing abilities. No preview. No ability to scale. Just select printer options and go. No Image Properties on right-click menu. Digging through the Inspector isn't a good experience.If these functions exist and I just missed them please let me know!
Hopefully the printing options will be improved in future versions. At least it prints things correctly unlike IE where the print result looks nothing like what's displayed on screen.
I agree that the inspector isn't very user friendly, but it's very useful when developing. And if you right-click on the image and inspect the image is selected in the inspector for you, no need to digg. :) At least that is how things work in my version of Chrome.
muddi900
11-18-2008, 04:56 AM
One thing that Chrome does REALLY pisses me off. Downloads automatically move to the bottom of the screen. Close the tab or the browser, and they disappear, like they never happened. WTF? Is it 1998 again? Do you want me to install a download manager, Chrome? Because FF and IE start my downloads in a separate window so that I can close the main browser window while my shit downloads.
Without a download manager, downloads are needlessly slow.
Try FDM, its awesome.
J Arcane
11-18-2008, 09:20 AM
It displays estimated time left, how much has been downloaded out of the total file size, and a progress bar (can you call it a bar when it's circular). What more do you need to know about the download progress? :)
THen I somehow have some magic version where that's broken, because my Downloads tab doesn't tell me shit.
appel
11-19-2008, 01:34 AM
THen I somehow have some magic version where that's broken, because my Downloads tab doesn't tell me shit.
Strange. I have Chrome 0.3.154.9.
Superman's Dead
11-19-2008, 10:28 AM
Well, but that's because Facebook sucks. Can't blame the browser for a shitty site.
Of course! What was I thinking! =)
Thanks for the heads-up on FDM, muddi!
Zrikz
11-19-2008, 11:08 AM
I am jealous of you folks who are able to try out Chrome. When I installed it, something got borked. Every time I run the app, I get an application error at memory address 0xc0000005, and then it displays the "Oh snap" error tab. The same exact thing happened after uninstalling and reinstalling. Since Google throws up an "explain why you are uninstalling our software" webpage, I gave them very detailed descriptions of my errors. Hopefully, they'll get back to me....soon :D
I was having this problem for a few weeks.. I uninstalled re-installed it and then nothing happened when I tried to open it, so I just forgot about it. Tried it again last night randomly and it worked for some reason.
muddi900
11-19-2008, 11:19 AM
Of course! What was I thinking! =)
Thanks for the heads-up on FDM, muddi!
But how'd you figure out a way to download something in Chrome using FDM?
Superman's Dead
01-10-2009, 06:29 PM
But how'd you figure out a way to download something in Chrome using FDM?
Resurrecting thread to ask a question, and I found that I didn't see one I'd been asked. =) I just drag the link to the download to the FDM thingy on my screen.
There's a few websites where clinking on links should give drop-down menus, and Chrome just clicks them as straight links. This is kinda destroying its use for me, as I have to go through extra steps all the time to get where I want to be. Does anyone know of any way to fix this? The Chrome 'options' are certainly user friendly, but...bare.
TheEpicOfTyler
01-10-2009, 06:33 PM
Can I click my scroll wheel yet?
Lint of Death
01-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Can I click my scroll wheel yet?
Nope, but a lot of games don't recognize my mouse's middle click either, so I'm kind of used to it.
appel
01-11-2009, 08:58 AM
Can I click my scroll wheel yet?
You can in the dev version (2.0.156.1) at least. So I guess it shouldn't be too long until it appears in the release version.
total
01-11-2009, 01:48 PM
Still waiting for my Linux version. :(
JayVe
01-11-2009, 04:40 PM
Still waiting for my Linux version. :(
Mac and Linus versions coming soon
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10138388-2.html?tag=rtcol;newsNow
Showing signs that it's working to meet requests for new developments to its Chrome browser, Google on Friday said it hopes to release versions for Mac OS X and Linux by the first half of the year, and it released a new version Wednesday that paves the way for the most requested feature: extensions.
total
01-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Mac and Linus versions coming soon
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10138388-2.html?tag=rtcol;newsNow
Neato! I'm always big for more competition in the browser market; even if they are just variations of webkit, trident and gecko.
civil
03-02-2009, 08:30 PM
Rising from the grave!
I'm digging Chrome so far. FF has gone apeshit with my memory - only a few tabs open (I never have more than 5 or 6 open) and going at 250 megs. Fuck you. So far Chrome is treating me right with the way it threads the memory. Woo!
Xerxes
03-02-2009, 09:02 PM
LMAO... I have 4 tabs open and FF is using 305MB.
I've been giving IE another chance, mainly cause I like inprivate browsing. Might have to give Chrome another go. I liked it back when I first started trying it.
PathMaster
03-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Personally I am still waiting for Chrome extensions, mainly Noscript.
Banacek
03-03-2009, 07:52 PM
Rising from the grave!
I'm digging Chrome so far. FF has gone apeshit with my memory - only a few tabs open (I never have more than 5 or 6 open) and going at 250 megs. Fuck you. So far Chrome is treating me right with the way it threads the memory. Woo!
Haha, I laugh at your 250 megs:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7330/picture1uo4.png (http://imageshack.us)
It's been much better with version 3.0.6 (that's an old pic), but it still hangs around 500 megs. Once Safari 4 comes out I might make the switch.
Banacek
03-03-2009, 07:54 PM
LMAO... I have 4 tabs open and FF is using 305MB.
I've been giving IE another chance, mainly cause I like inprivate browsing. Might have to give Chrome another go. I liked it back when I first started trying it.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1559
Leave it to the add-ons to give Firefox proper functionality. Maybe they'll release a memory leak fix add-on? :)
Xerxes
03-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Still doesn't fix the memory issue. :)
I have Chrome installed but never really use it. My Firefox is customized how I like it, works fine, and I see no reason to switch
4 tabs @ 100MB in Firefox (latest stable 3.0.6)
If you want private browsing in FF, use Stealther
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306
If there are times you want to surf the web without leaving a trace in your local computer, then this is the right extension for you. What it does is temporarily disable the following:
- Browsing History (also in Address bar)
- Cookies
- Downloaded Files History
- Disk Cache
- Saved Form Information
- Sending of ReferrerHeader
- Recently Closed Tabs list
None of the affected options gets cleared totally as opposed to some other extensions which enable you to wipe these privacy issues with a single click, but at the same time leaving you without the history of your frequently visited websites.
Never given me any problems
strwrsxprt
03-07-2009, 01:25 PM
Still doesn't fix the memory issue. :)
How much RAM do you have that you're complaining about 250MB usage from an application? Maybe the solution is to get more-4GB of RAM is less than $40, so there's no excuse not to have that much.
I've never understood why people whine about RAM being used-that's what it's there for.
Xerxes
03-07-2009, 05:17 PM
How much RAM do you have that you're complaining about 250MB usage from an application? Maybe the solution is to get more-4GB of RAM is less than $40, so there's no excuse not to have that much.
I've never understood why people whine about RAM being used-that's what it's there for.
3 gigs. It's not that it's being used. It's that it seems to be wasted.
strwrsxprt
03-07-2009, 05:28 PM
3 gigs. It's not that it's being used. It's that it seems to be wasted.
What do you care, if you have that much RAM? Firefox is designed to be quite liberal with its memory usage, caching more data into physical memory for a faster browsing experience. Start actually running out of RAM and it's designed to give it back.
I seriously don't get the "waaaaahhh my RAM is being used when it should be sitting empty doing nothing!" crap. It's the same mentality that's got people calling Vista bloated, when all it's doing is more aggressively prefetching and caching most frequently accessed data for a faster experience. As soon as you need the memory, it gives it right back. Microsoft turns down the amount of caching in Windows 7, potentially slowing down the user experience, and people praise it as stripping the bloat. I love FUD.
LMAO... I have 4 tabs open and FF is using 305MB.
I've been giving IE another chance, mainly cause I like inprivate browsing. Might have to give Chrome another go. I liked it back when I first started trying it.
Really? I have 13 tabs open and I'm using 142MB. I did upgrade to 3.1b2 today though.
Banacek
03-07-2009, 07:34 PM
What do you care, if you have that much RAM? Firefox is designed to be quite liberal with its memory usage, caching more data into physical memory for a faster browsing experience. Start actually running out of RAM and it's designed to give it back.
I seriously don't get the "waaaaahhh my RAM is being used when it should be sitting empty doing nothing!" crap. It's the same mentality that's got people calling Vista bloated, when all it's doing is more aggressively prefetching and caching most frequently accessed data for a faster experience. As soon as you need the memory, it gives it right back. Microsoft turns down the amount of caching in Windows 7, potentially slowing down the user experience, and people praise it as stripping the bloat. I love FUD.
If you were a computer scientist, you'd know that a memory leak is never a good thing. Firefox doesn't give the memory back. That's the problem. Also, when I'm running multiple VM's for development, along with Eclipse and other programs, the last thing I want is Firefox taking more memory for no reason.
EDIT: for the record, I believe this is more of a Flash issue then anything else. Whether that is Adobe's or Mozilla's fault I don't know.
Xydarc
03-08-2009, 12:30 AM
Well, I loaded up this thing with like 10-12 tabs from different news sites and crap, and it still used less RAM and ran faster than FF3 does.
I'm impressed.
Now it just needs Adblock Plus, mouse gesture support, and FFVB. Fuck, just throw in addon support.
I installed, then quickly uninstalled Chrome. Fucker disabled AdBlock Plus in FF.:mad:
There's no way Chrome with ever support an ad blocking app or add-on. I'll stick with FireFox, thank you very much.
Disgustipated
03-08-2009, 12:39 AM
3 gigs. It's not that it's being used. It's that it seems to be wasted.
Um? You do realize that when RAM is sitting around FREE that it's being wasted because... get this... it's not in use?
Dunno, I'd rather have the resources being put to usage than sitting around doing nothing, which is what XP does with them. It's the difference between having a lot of spare cash in the bank but no investments or having less spare cash in the bank but a lot more investments. ;)
boratika
03-08-2009, 01:57 AM
EDIT: for the record, I believe this is more of a Flash issue then anything else. Whether that is Adobe's or Mozilla's fault I don't know.
I'm guessing you are right. FF3 seems to have had its leaks plugged, but you can't tell what is FF's fault what is Flash's. That's why chrome's task manager is handy. The last time I was using chrome, I had been browsing for a bit and about 40 tabs open and the task manager told me Flash was using over a gig of memory. When I checked FF's memory usage in another thread, I had 112 tabs open and it was using slightly over 400MB. I use flashblock, which makes a huge difference.
If people want a browser without memory leaks, it seems to be the best bet is to go with firefox with flashblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433) . Plus it provides an almost infinite aesthetic improvement to the web when you only see the flash you want.
Banacek
03-08-2009, 03:03 AM
I installed, then quickly uninstalled Chrome. Fucker disabled AdBlock Plus in FF.:mad:
There's no way Chrome with ever support an ad blocking app or add-on. I'll stick with FireFox, thank you very much.
Agreed. There is no way Google would ever allow a browser that blocked ads. In fact, this was probably one of the main reasons why Google wanted to have their own browser.
Um? You do realize that when RAM is sitting around FREE that it's being wasted because... get this... it's not in use?
Dunno, I'd rather have the resources being put to usage than sitting around doing nothing, which is what XP does with them. It's the difference between having a lot of spare cash in the bank but no investments or having less spare cash in the bank but a lot more investments. ;)
You assume that just because the memory is allocated that it is being used properly. In Firefox's case, that just isn't true.
Xerxes
03-08-2009, 08:25 AM
Flash being the issue makes sense with all the hulu i watch.
Sandman
03-09-2009, 12:29 AM
Does Chrome still not support the click wheel scrolling? That's my only beef with it.
appel
03-09-2009, 03:32 AM
Does Chrome still not support the click wheel scrolling? That's my only beef with it.
Chrome 2.0.168.0 has it at least. :)
theman
03-09-2009, 09:01 AM
i dont like chrome. I bet google tracks everything you do instead of jus tyour searchs
total
03-09-2009, 09:14 AM
i dont like chrome. I bet google tracks everything you do instead of jus tyour searchs
And they kick puppies and eat unborn fetuses.
appel
03-09-2009, 10:12 AM
i dont like chrome. I bet google tracks everything you do instead of jus tyour searchs
And your isp logs everything you do regardless of what browser you use.. ;)
boratika
03-10-2009, 04:34 AM
Agreed. There is no way Google would ever allow a browser that blocked ads. In fact, this was probably one of the main reasons why Google wanted to have their own browser.
I have to disagree on this point, mostly on account of they already have. SRWare's Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php) is a version of Chromium (the open source version of Chrome) which has ad blocking. It's main point is to remove usage tracking, but it also has the adblocking.
But yes, I agree, you won't see adblocking in chrome, but you will in chromium. Whether that fact will ever be worth a damn is still to be seen.
And they kick puppies and eat unborn fetuses.
Hey now, foetuses are an important part of balanced diet. They are rich in protein, calcium and stemcells.
Xerxes
03-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I have to disagree on this point, mostly on account of they already have. SRWare's Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php) is a version of Chromium (the open source version of Chrome) which has ad blocking. It's main point is to remove usage tracking, but it also has the adblocking.
Now Iron has promise.
Banacek
03-10-2009, 11:12 AM
I have to disagree on this point, mostly on account of they already have. SRWare's Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php) is a version of Chromium (the open source version of Chrome) which has ad blocking. It's main point is to remove usage tracking, but it also has the adblocking.
But yes, I agree, you won't see adblocking in chrome, but you will in chromium. Whether that fact will ever be worth a damn is still to be seen.
Nice, I didn't even know about Iron. Going to have to check it out.
DiBiddilyBop
03-10-2009, 12:59 PM
I really dig chrome except for the lack of adblocking. I didn't know about Iron, so I think it's about time to switch browsers again.
Xerxes
03-10-2009, 06:34 PM
So far Iron is pretty kick ass. Go here (http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/01/06/block-ads-in-chrome-based-srware-iron-with-a-single-file/)to make the mod for ad blocking.
Xerxes
03-13-2009, 10:21 PM
I wish it had a different color scheme, or something that gave it it's own identity. Change the icons or something. It feels so much chrome. Can hardly feel a difference.
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