Marvel vs Capcom 3

[Iron Past]

No thread yet? I should get my copy in probably Wednesday, and I'm pretty excited. The guide is supposed to be good (<$12 on Amazon right now, ~400 pages), and I've ordered this (http://www.pdp.com/p-984-versus-fighting-pad-marvel-edition.aspx) to accompany my stick--looks pretty cool, but I've been wrong before (I mean the specs, the artwork is... yeah).

Anyway, there are a ton of videos and archived streams I can dig up, but I'd rather not right now. I'll just anticipate later this week when I get my copy.

Edit: What the hell, here's a link (http://www.justin.tv/teamsp00ky/b/279435635?). Right now it's archived footage, not sure if that'll change when they stream again or not.

[Shrinn]

Oh god oh god oh god so awesome.

My 3 friends bought a copy at a store that broke the street date and I've been tearing it up. As someone who just couldn't understand MVC2 past the button mashing level this game makes perfect sense to me and I'm tearing shit up with almost every character.

I'm currently running a Dante, Ammy, Iron Man team.

It seems like the top tier characters are going to be Sentinel, Dante, Wesker, maybe x-23. X-factor sentinel will fuck your shit up.

EDIT: I could talk about this game for awhile, but I really like the simplicity in the combo system. Everyone has the same combo and move inputs are no more difficult than Dragon Punch + 2punches. No one has to worry about doing half circle back x2 or charge-down-back, up left, 720 all punches like in Street Fighter (and I love SSF4). The game becomes more about footsies, spacing, capitalizing on opportunity, and then playing out your easy to do combos when you get that hit in and notice it in time. There's still plenty of execution precision required in the spacing game but once you get in there you don't have to worry about dropping that 1 frame link to do your only damaging combo.

The level of care each character got is also incredible. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a problem with the way your character is represented. Dante's blocking stance is his royal guard blocking animation, for Odin's sake! That's care.

[menage]

Preordered this from the UK, so it will probably be 2 weeks till I get my hands on it seeing as the mail is terrible.

Feedback has been good so can't wait.

[Iron Past]

Sounds great! I either played MvC or MvC2 (don't remember which) a loooong time ago, and grabbed MvC2 off XBLA but found it hard to understand. No in-game teaching system and all the guides assumed you already knew everything. Nice to know that I won't have to commit complicated moves to muscle memory just so I can take advantage of the split second I have to use them, then be too far behind the curve if I lay off for a few days (after about nine months, I lost quite a bit when I threw SSFIV in yesterday).

By the way, here's a preview of the guide (http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/blog/2011/02/10/marvel_vs_capcom_3_strategy_guide_preview!). It has links to Wolverine's and Ryu's pages.

Also this!

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Edit: And this: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Marvel_vs_Capcom_3

[KamaItachi]

I'll be grabbing this next week, and I can not freaking wait. The reviews have been a lot more positive than I had expected after lukewarm previews.

[Jason]

I think I'm gonna hold off for a while. I just picked up the Blazeblue sequel and haven't played it yet.

[Uatu]

Obligatory.

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[OrangePulp]

Picked it up at midnight at walmart; I have to say, it's pretty sweet. I'm pretty bad at 2d fighters (as Lekon can attest), but the basic interface is simple enough that even I can do decently.

[Camel]

I used to love fighters, but I have never been all that great at them and have considered almost every fighting game I've bought in the last five years to be a waste of money (at least as far as my own enjoyment is concerned).

Despite that, I still want to get this game. Something is wrong with me!

[OrangePulp]

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like you can't observe the current game when you're in a lobby. That... seems like a big step backwards. Hopefully there's some option that I don't have enabled?

[Iron Past]

No, I believe that's just missing. Big oversight, yes, but one I expect them to patch in.

[KamaItachi]

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like you can't observe the current game when you're in a lobby. That... seems like a big step backwards. Hopefully there's some option that I don't have enabled?

According to a few reviews I've read there's no spectator mode, which is a huge step back from earlier games.

[Badger]

Just picked this up today.

It's great! I suck at it, and I hate it! Just like every other fighting game I've bought with the minor exception of the 2 rounds I won at SSF4.

It's definitely more accessible than MvC2, but it clearly takes a more patient man than I. Apparently I wouldn't get raped so badly if I used the X factors or something? I don't know.

[OrangePulp]

Apparently it was addressed in some release party, and they're going to patch it in at some point. No specific date, of course.

[Fubl]

Got my amazon delivery today.

Hope to see people on the 360 version. If need people hit me up

[Mashidar]

Got the game and I love it. I'll have to play more tonight when my family is not watching the TV. I enjoy the level of detail that's present in the game, as well as the fact that each person has an ending. So far I've finished the game with Ryu and Iron Man. Only 30+ more people to complete the title with.

[Exodus]

So you're fighting galactus and when he gets to about below 20% he starts spamming this crazy screen smasher move...it is JUST NOT COOL.

Thankfully, Galactus is nothing for the son of Odin.

EDIT:

My favourite teams are this...

Trish
Sentinel
Storm

Dante
Viewtiful Joe
Zero

I swear though, Sentinel is a beast by himself but Trish is like the ketchup on the fries...Storm...well god dammit we all love storm and when the first two don't make it...she cleans up the mess.

Who I want to get good with? Phoenix. I love Jean in that suit, most especially the red phoenix suit.

[Troggles]

My favorite combo is Amatersu with the frost assist, Trish with the up tilt proximity mine thing, and Iron Man with Unibomb. I was tearing up with that combo.

[menage]

Jealousy kicks in.

[MachEnergy]

I had a lot of fun feeling out the game last night with Jboy and Lekon. Afterwards, I tried some of the Missions and really liked how they teach you good combos for every character; EXACTLY what I need. The only problem I have is that the input list is so long, it has to scroll vertically as you complete moves. I find it almost impossible to look at the entire list in the pause menu and memorize it. Does this mean I won't be a good MVC3 player??? I just don't think I have what it takes to learn 20 move sequences. Oh well, I'm having a great time approaching it like I did MVC2. Spam traditional Street Fighter moves, and when confused, hit every button :)

Anybody have a problem getting online on Xbox? The only way I was able to play people was in Lobby modes. Ranked and Player matchmaking was simply broken for me. Being forced to play in lobbies without spectator mode is rubbish. Here's to hoping for a quick patch.

Side note: I'm already sick of Deadpool's "Have gun, will shoot", as one guy I fought online spammed that move over and over, forcing me to high-jump just to get near him. A-NOY-ING!

[Ink Asylum]

"Kinetic card!"

[menage]

Side note: I'm already sick of Deadpool's "Have gun, will shoot", as one guy I fought online spammed that move over and over, forcing me to high-jump just to get near him. A-NOY-ING!

Projectile users like Arthur or Modok (maybe Deadpool fits into the category) are supossed to be terrible cause you can basically spam everyone to death from a distance. It was generally the biggest gripe about the game. It's cheap.

[Shrinn]

Projectile users like Arthur or Modok (maybe Deadpool fits into the category) are supossed to be terrible cause you can basically spam everyone to death from a distance. It was generally the biggest gripe about the game. It's cheap.

There are usually ways past it, usually with a special. Projectile specials like Dante's guns do an amazing job of countering spam and as long as they have one meter I'm always very afraid to let them see my projectiles coming. Grab-animation specials also do the job (think Lady Deathstrike, where they bring you to a separate screen, more or less.) The only characters I can think of that have a really hard time getting past projectiles are Hagger and Thor and frankly they're just not that good because of it. Everyone else can beat it. Arthur with Sentinel force assist is the trickiest, but it can be beaten.

[Iron Past]

The only problem I have is that the input list is so long, it has to scroll vertically as you complete moves. I find it almost impossible to look at the entire list in the pause menu and memorize it. Does this mean I won't be a good MVC3 player??? I just don't think I have what it takes to learn 20 move sequences.

With SFIV I would always break down easily linked sequences and commit those to memory before trying the whole thing at once. That way, you're only thinking of a few intro moves and not the whole list. And no, not doing crazy million move combos doesn't mean you'll suck.

Also, since SF's online modes were all jacked, I would (and still do) just turn on Fight Request and play arcade mode. Gave me a chance to practice between matches, and was much faster; I believe there's a similar option here.

[Joshkdmw]

Man, this game is AWESOME. It's everything I wanted it to be. The only addition I'd make is adding Gambit, but chances are I'll be given the chance to cough up some more money for him soon.

My reserve team:

Viewtiful Joe
Dante
Spencer

Viewtiful Joe can be pretty nasty up close, but has very low range and his mobility is not great. Gonna take some fine-tuning. Ranged characters eat him up.

Dante has like a million moves that can all flow into a million others. Through equal parts luck and fury, I managed to chain a combo big enough to take out Lekon's sentinel after it came out for an assist.

Spencer has such a neat flavour. he hits hard, but can still move. And he usually doesn't need to move. Grapple their face, and you have several ways which you can smack them around. There's just something about reeling someone in on a bionic arm and kicking them across the screen that's so appealing to me.

[Iron Past]

That Marvel Versus Fighting Pad (http://www.pdp.com/p-984-versus-fighting-pad-marvel-edition.aspx) is awesome. I wish the buttons were arched, but that's about it. I also find it hard to perform shoryukem motions right now, but I hope to practice that out.

[OrangePulp]

For a fightpad, I always want a dpad (never did learn to play with an arcade stick). Fortunately I snagged two of the street fighter ones a while back.

[Deadend]

I don't like the way it plays. I just don't.
The game is also kind of shoddy-port feeling. There just doesn't seem to be anything beyond the core of the game, no real tutorials, no training, no observer modes, nothing FUN for people who are casual, it feels like a bare-bones game that was rushed out the door.. except it came out in Feb, which is kind of a random time.

[DoctorFinger]

The mission mode is the defacto training mode. You're right that there aren't a ton of different modes, but how many fighting games have those modes and do them well?

[Draconis]

Picked up the Special edition for the 360, because it can do 1080p whereas the PS3 cannot. I was dissapointed to learn the ps3 only does 720 p.

Ah well, my Street Fighter IV controller works great, and i Have to say thus far fighting style wise, my favorite character is Amaterasu. She can change up to medium, short, or long range attacks pretty quick. Very adaptable. I like how powerful and versatile Capcom made Ammy. They really did her justice.

This game is everything I was hoping it would be, save I wish they had in between story sequences or a story mode. But at the heart of the matter, the game is all about fighting with characters you always loved and adored.


The ending with Tron Bonne is hilarious, btw, for anyone who has seen that. Pure gold right there.

[Wolvie]

Oh man oh man oh man I am sooooooooo weak! I went into Gamestop with a hint of curiosity and asked the clerk if MvC3 was any good. He goes "We have a PS3 demo up... wanna play?"
I decided to play since you guys have been talking about it, and since I watched a few video's the game has been looking good to me. So I played a bit, and was just having a button mashing blast!
I then went to the counter and said "I'll take a copy."

Like I said, I'm weak. :D

Gonna go play now! Whoo!

Edit: The thing I like the most is the character models. No Elephantitis leg and crab hands Chun Li? No Hobbit foot Ryu? Thank you! I love the art style of this game, it's just everything I wished SFIV would have been. Capcom, you made up for a past mistake, good job.

[Widgetcraft]

Thinking about picking this up today along with a $40 fight stick as a birthday present for myself. Anyone have any experience with the $40 Mad Catz Street Fighter IV stick?

[Iron Past]

No personal experience, but I've heard good things. I have the TE stick, and have been very happy with it. Also easily modifiable.

[Shrinn]

Thinking about picking this up today along with a $40 fight stick as a birthday present for myself. Anyone have any experience with the $40 Mad Catz Street Fighter IV stick?

This is the fighting stick (http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Fighting-Stick-3-Playstation/dp/B000MWE3BI) I use and I fucking adore it. It's light, the cover is peeling off, but it's solid and gets the same job done for a whole lot cheaper than the TE stick.

Square gate, note the button placement if that's an issue.

[Iron Past]

I go back and forth between having a square and octagonal gate in my stick. I usually prefer the movement of the octo, but the throw is so much bigger. QC and HC motions take getting used to on a square gate, too.

Edit: I wish I could throw a Happ stick in my TE, but as I understand it the housing is too shallow. I'd like that MK stick, but it really doesn't make any sense to buy another one, and I like how I've personalized mine now.

[Joshkdmw]

I never got into the fighting pads. That joystick always seemed unwieldy to me. I could see using a fightpad, but a D-pad seems like a step back.

I was raised playing fighters on consoles with joysticks and triggers. Everything else is uncomfortable to me.

Mind, I get my ass kicked pretty regular, so I'm not a great metric of how to be a good fighter.

[Widgetcraft]

Well, I went out and bought MvC3 for my PS3, but unfortunately, I was unable to acquire an arcade stick. I called two stores, one had a Hori stick that was like $130, the other (a Gamestop) had the Street Fighter Tournament Edition stick for like $130, and a Tekken bundle with a stick and Tekken 6 for $60. I don't need a super awesome stick (I'm very much a casual fighter fan), so my price range for it is around the price of a game, and... well, I fucking hate Tekken, so screw looking at Tekken characters every time I want to play.

I still have an Amazon Prime trial going, so I'm just going to find something on Amazon. Until then, I'll be slumming it on my Dual Shock. That's okay though, I grew up playing fighters on the SNES, Genesis and PS1 pads. I like how this sounds like it is a fighter that is more my speed.

[Lekon]

Well, I went out and bought MvC3 for my PS3, but unfortunately, I was unable to acquire an arcade stick..

What's a "Ps3"?

[Deadend]

Well, mission mode is a sad joke with a horrible UI, the game doesn't explain X-factor properly, or even tagging. I also saw an AI character cancel out of a move into guard. Whoo, so much not fun. This goes back to gamefly on Monday. And it's not like I don't get fighting games, I'm not a moron, I just don't think this is that great of a game.

[Elrik Murder]

Well, mission mode is a sad joke with a horrible UI, the game doesn't explain X-factor properly, or even tagging. I also saw an AI character cancel out of a move into guard. Whoo, so much not fun. This goes back to gamefly on Monday. And it's not like I don't get fighting games, I'm not a moron, I just don't think this is that great of a game.

Ouch! Someone's not a true believer! :P

Kidding. Well, I'm excited. My copy finally arrived from the Capcom Store. I'll get to play it either tonight or tomorrow. I was a huge fan and avid player of 2 and I'm really looking forward to see what they did with it. Plus, that sweet @$$ tin the collector's edition is in was a surprise. I had no idea. :D

[Press Ninja]

I grabbed it on PS3 as well, and picked up a round 1 TE SF4 Fight Stick. I still have a lot of trouble playing, but much less than MVC2.

It's fun, but the menu's and some of the UI are damned infuriating. There is no excuse to have these problems with menus kicking people out for no reason, shitty netcode and everything.

Plus, why the hell do you give out the two dlc characters in the collectors edition...and not have them ready day one? This game does feel very...off, in terms of everything. When the game is only 2.9gbs worth of data, you've gotta ask why?

At least its really fun. Add me on PSN if you're up for kicking my butt

[Talanvor]

My copy is stuck in Indiana. Is it possible to get a sadder face emote than the one we have now?

[Deadend]

Q: Why are so many of the moves Dragon Punch input? I hate it, and it's really tough to do reliably on controller.
I get that it's not hard to do with a joystick, like in an Arcade.. but this game never existed in an arcade first, so I find that to be a really shitty reason. I also have trouble getting X-factors to trigger and the Bumpers for tagging.. Ugh, sometimes I tap a bumper and NOTHING happens, even though Assist=Ok. It's frustrating.

[Widgetcraft]

I think I blow at this game. I can't make it past lvl 5 Arcade mode on Normal difficulty, and out of ten online matches I played, I only won two.

[Vigil80]

The game may not have been in an arcade first, but now the thing to do is to play with a fight stick. Either the game is designed for a stick, or vice versa, but I'm not sure which.

Seems like if you want to play seriously, you at least need a fight pad.

[Iron Past]

Q: Why are so many of the moves Dragon Punch input? I hate it, and it's really tough to do reliably on controller.
I get that it's not hard to do with a joystick, like in an Arcade.. but this game never existed in an arcade first, so I find that to be a really shitty reason. I also have trouble getting X-factors to trigger and the Bumpers for tagging.. Ugh, sometimes I tap a bumper and NOTHING happens, even though Assist=Ok. It's frustrating.

If you're having a hard time understanding, go here (http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Marvel_vs_Capcom_3). It's an outstanding resource that picks up the slack Capcom let off in explaining everything. Just cause you don't get or understand something doesn't make it bad, and console gamepads aren't exactly the pinnacle of precision.

And ALL special moves for ALL characters are either QCF + ATK, QCB + ATK, or DP + ATK, with few exceptions. This way you at least know everyone's moves without having to know what they actually do.

[Joshkdmw]

So, I've 86'ed Joe in favour of Chris. He has some nasty bounce combos, and his hypers have some brute damn force behind them.

Spencer is tricky to play. He's not a big combo guy, but he has a few combos that hit for a shit-ton of damage. He chains very well from grapple moves, though the hit range on the grappling hand and the recoil when missing are pretty considerable. I still think he's neat, though.

I saw nobody online tonight! I was on at like 11:45, but still. Do the fun police roll around your guys' houses before then, or what?

[Widgetcraft]

Well, after watching the Basic tutorial videos from Shoryuken.com I think I'm significantly better at the game. I at least beat the Arcade mode on Normal :p Took quite a few tries to get Galactus, though.

Right now the team I've been using is: Deadpool, Zero, Tron Bonne. They seem fairly well rounded together, to me, but I chose them based entirely on the fact that they're my favorite characters in the roster. Tron Bonne is the one I have the hardest time with, but every now and then I can dominate with her; I particularly like her Special because it's OTG. Air juggles are friggin awesome, by the way.

I'm seriously considering driving all the way back out to the fucking Gamestop tomorrow after work and picking up that Tournament Edition stick... I was using the D-pad, and that shit wasn't cutting it, then I tried the analog stick, which surprised me by being a bit better. I have a hard time pulling off Dragon Punch moves when I'm standing on the right, however.

Anyway, I really dig the game, even if I'm not that great at it. They made it much more user-friendly than the previous title, in my opinion. I'll send out some PSN friend invites here in a bit, to those of you who aren't on my list and seem to have the game for PS3.

EDIT: If I didn't get you, send me an invite.

[Widgetcraft]

Wow... so apparently, you can use Simple mode in online play (even ranked matches). Wouldn't that make things extremely cheap, even against mid-range players using Normal mode?

EDIT: ...Wow... just wow.

[Iron Past]

Wow... so apparently, you can use Simple mode in online play (even ranked matches). Wouldn't that make things extremely cheap, even against mid-range players using Normal mode?

Yeah, but you're moveset is very limited, and more importantly your hypers are, too. After a small amount of practice you should be able to get around them pretty easily (they'll be easy to predict, at least).

I have two teams I'm messing with: Wesker-Super Skrull-[Heavy] and Iron Man-She Hulk-Arthur. Wesker's a beast, and I might switch out Iron Man for Captain America (I've done well with him at point).

Edit: Oh, I am SO HAPPY that everyone and their brother is choosing Dante as their lead character right now. Uhg. And Super Skrull is badass; probably my favorite fighter right now.

Edit 2: Holy cow, Morrigan can whoop some ass! I'm rolling Skrull/Taskmaster/Morrigan, but I might find someone to replace Taskmaster that fits my style more.

[Vigil80]

Well, I bought this today. And I suck at it. But I'll keep plugging away.

I've always wanted to be good at fighting games. And while this may not be the fighting game player's fighting game, it seems as good a place as any to start. Plus, it has a dinosaurs playing electric guitar brand of awesome that I can't pass up.

[Sly Marbo]

Chris-Hulk-Sentinel is my favorite team so far. I've had some success against my friends and a few randoms, but I'm looking for more/varied competition. If anyone is looking for some action with a focus on learning the technical aspects of the game, hit me up on Live.

[Press Ninja]

Those videos do a great job describing what Capcom didn't with the game, great find.
I also like that you can go with Simple controls in online, it may seem cheesy but it gives everyone a fighting chance, while still limiting their number of combos and everything. Getting those few key victories makes you want to learn the normal controls and actually get better at the game.

[Widgetcraft]

Well, I bought this today. And I suck at it. But I'll keep plugging away.

I've always wanted to be good at fighting games. And while this may not be the fighting game player's fighting game, it seems as good a place as any to start. Plus, it has a dinosaurs playing electric guitar brand of awesome that I can't pass up.

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And use this wiki (http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Marvel_vs_Capcom_3). Search this Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/mvc3dangerroom) for the characters you're using.

[Wolvie]

Oh MAN am I glad I followed my gut instinct and bought this, because I am seriously loving MvC3. Yes it's newbie firendly, yes I know it's not a tournament kinda game. And I love it for that. It's like Capcom said, "Hey, how do we get more scrubs to play a fighting game? ... oh yeah! Make it easier to get into!" In short I can play it and not feel overwhelmed and suck all the time.

Anyways, I did a play through last night with chun-Li Wolverine and Deadpool. I had a blast, but I don't think it was a good team, I kinda struggled a bit there toward the end. I think I need someone with more punch. Any suggestions for some back up for Wolverine?

[Lekon]

Oh MAN am I glad I followed my gut instinct and bought this, because I am seriously loving MvC3. Yes it's newbie firendly, yes I know it's not a tournament kinda game. And I love it for that. It's like Capcom said, "Hey, how do we get more scrubs to play a fighting game? ... oh yeah! Make it easier to get into!" In short I can play it and not feel overwhelmed and suck all the time.

Anyways, I did a play through last night with chun-Li Wolverine and Deadpool. I had a blast, but I don't think it was a good team, I kinda struggled a bit there toward the end. I think I need someone with more punch. Any suggestions for some back up for Wolverine?

Did you get it for 360 or the other system? As to backup for wolvie: Akuma is a fave for me. Spidey's got a hell of a punch for his speed, and Haggar is pretty heavy hitting (as is Hulk, and Hulk's a bit easier to use)

Niiiice vids Heretic. Those are damn handy.

[Wolvie]

360, because... well just because. I gotta try the Hulk, he beats me silly. Didn't like Spidey. But I don't know how to use the guy yet.

[Lekon]

360, because... well just because. I gotta try the Hulk, he beats me silly. Didn't like Spidey. But I don't know how to use the guy yet.

Neat. Sent you a friend request, I'll be on after dinner to play. :D

[Iron Past]

If you've unlocked Taskmaster, he hits well and has some good mid-range stuff.

[Widgetcraft]

I bit the bullet and bought a TE stick today. It had come down to it, or the Hori Real Arcade Pro 3, and the difference was the TE was $30 more, has better buttons, and I could buy it today where-as the Hori would have to have been ordered from Amazon. I'm really happy with this thing right now though, I'm just doing a test run with it on the Scott Pilgrim game before I take it into MvC3. It feels like it has excellent build quality, at the very least, and the layout is extremely comfortable. I'm really surprised by how comfortable it is on my lap, I was going to have it sitting on a TV tray but it actually feels fine sitting on my lap.

Maybe I'll be able to do those damn Dragon Punch motions now...

[Iron Past]

Easy to customize, too. Since they're so popular, it's not hard to get parts to drop in or find templates for artwork and even plexi shields. I'll post a pic of mine here soon.

Edit: http://i54.tinypic.com/19mvd3.jpg

[Talanvor]

Finally got my copy today. Getting my ass beat online but that's to be expected I suppose.

I keep trying to air dash with the stick, what the hell is wrong with me!

[Wolvie]

Wow, I thought I was just buying a game for me. Turns out the youngins love MvC3 too! I went into my gameroom a mintute ago and saw my daughter playing a round against her cousin, and having a blast. Their still playing now as I type this. Wow, one impulse buy turned into a real winner. :)

Oh and Lekon, I will accept that friend invite as soon as I can tear my kids away from the Xbox.

[Iron Past]

Blah. I guess I'll stick with Player Matches for a while. People play really cheesy in Ranked, and I'm not good enough to get around most of it. Though it was great beating the shit out of this guy after I got around his Dr. Doom spam. Seriously, he had no idea what to do besides throw projectiles, and the beatdown was glorious when I found my way across the screen. Won a couple other matches, too, but I've been having more fun playing unranked.

Edit: I'm not sure whether or not it bothers me there's no filter for the Simple control scheme online. It limits a lot of stuff, I know, but with characters like Dante that hardly matters. I'm barely able to handle my guys as it is, so having access to a bigger move set almost doesn't mean anything and it sometimes seems unfair that others don't have the same handicap. Side note, I'd be fairly surprised if Dante isn't on the Nerf List for the first patch.

Edit2: To elaborate, I don't care about the character Dante, it's a couple of his combos that I think need to be tweaked. Which is why Simple Mode annoys me sometimes.

[Draconis]

Was at the local Best Buy today and out of the corner of my eye I caught glimpse of a Tekken 6 Limited Edition bundle with the Hori Fighting stick, for 60 bucks.

After some mulling over about costs, and doing some cost comparison on my iphone real quick at the store, I decided to pick it up. By the Heavens am I glad I ever did.


Seriously, Hori makes some good stuff, but this damn fighting stick is making a WORLD of difference in my gameplay, even as bad as I am. It's making training sessions a lot easier, and is also helping me to understand just what it is that the game expects when it comes to combos and sequence of button presses in order to pull things off.

Not to mention, pulling off super jumps with the fighting stick is WORLDS better then any control pad ever was. No struggle to do it, you JUST DO.

Combos fly easier as well, very easy to tap the buttons in succession as I need to, making it easier to train and learn. I have to say this is one part where I really love Marvel Vs Capcom 3, because I can map out the controller as I see fit and with a Hori Stick that is a must.


So glad I bought the stick, also found a copy of Samurai Shodown for 10 bucks too, so not a bad haul all in all.

[Widgetcraft]

Yeah, I'm digging the stick I bought. I like that it also works on my PC, so I've been dinking around with some emulation. It also works well with the Scott Pilgrim game.

[Iron Past]

Hehe, I posted in a forum last night saying that while a legitimate tactic, spamming Sentinel's H attack the entire match was a cheesy way to play. He actually posted back asking how was it cheesy, then said it was the same as using guns in Call of Duty. I wasn't even complaining, just joining the conversation on rage-inducing fights. The whole "learn to play" argument is bullshit, too. My 4 y/o can spam Sentinel's H attack, but defending against something like that takes much more skill. Eventually that stuff shakes out, though, and I'm slowly learning to deal with it.

[Shrinn]

Destroy. Destroy. Destroy. Destroy.

Dante's down down special teleport does a very, very good job of destroying H spamming sentinels.

[Iron Past]

So does Dormammu's black hole deal. Or a number of other ways, but it takes time for me to figure that out. I'm learning to deal with that play style the best I can with who I like to use. Plus it's great to watch someone completely fall apart when you take out a single character.

[Widgetcraft]

Hehe, I posted in a forum last night saying that while a legitimate tactic, spamming Sentinel's H attack the entire match was a cheesy way to play. He actually posted back asking how was it cheesy, then said it was the same as using guns in Call of Duty. I wasn't even complaining, just joining the conversation on rage-inducing fights. The whole "learn to play" argument is bullshit, too. My 4 y/o can spam Sentinel's H attack, but defending against something like that takes much more skill. Eventually that stuff shakes out, though, and I'm slowly learning to deal with it.

I'm guilty of some cheesy shit. I'm actively practicing executing Tron's Bonne Strike over and over again. If you do it right, you can spam it eight times before the other person gets a chance to stop you. I also tend to use Deadpool's guns to keep some characters as far away as possible; combined with his evasive dash attack and teleports it can be hard to get close to Deadpool.

I still suck though, still having trouble executing moves under pressure.

[SilentScreams]

I've been watching gameplay videos of this game and I'm so close to heading out and picking it up right now.
The stupid thing is, I'm not even a big fighter fan. The only ones I've ever really gotten into was one of the Mortal Kombats, I'm not even sure which one...Armageddon maybe, and SSB (which I guess can't really be compared to these kinds of fighters).

But damn...these videos make this game look really fun.

[Iron Past]

I'm guilty of some cheesy shit. I'm actively practicing executing Tron's Bonne Strike over and over again. If you do it right, you can spam it eight times before the other person gets a chance to stop you. I also tend to use Deadpool's guns to keep some characters as far away as possible; combined with his evasive dash attack and teleports it can be hard to get close to Deadpool.

I'm guilty of it, too, to be honest. But that's not really cheesy. To me, cheesy is staying on the far end of the screen and spamming one move over and over again for the entire match, and that move is calculated to be easy to do with low startup and recovery, etc. That why I say I don't care too much; the cheesy tactics are very specific, and not that many people know them yet. The people that do, well, I'll figure it out.

The discovery of so many loops and infinite combos already is a bit disheartening, though.

[Shrinn]

So does Dormammu's black hole deal. Or a number of other ways, but it takes time for me to figure that out. I'm learning to deal with that play style the best I can with who I like to use. Plus it's great to watch someone completely fall apart when you take out a single character.

Yeah, there are ways around it. Dante's is just my favorite. I still have a ton of trouble with a bad Sentinel, though, let alone a good one. Deadpool is meant to be a keepaway character, so he'll be frustrating either way but cheesey spam is way annoying.

Thankfully at tournament level play there's none of that by virtue of it not being successful. Even among my group of friends we're all quickly figuring out how to get past everyone's, barring my keepaway Amaterasu, which is just made too easy by cold shot forward or cold shot upward.

Unfortunately for whoever just bought the Tekken + stick, Best Buy has put it on sale here (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Tekken+6+Limited+Edition+Wireless+Fight+Stick+Bund le+-+Xbox+360/9542113.p?id=1218122579381&skuId=9542113&cmp=RMX&ky=2mgAShwh2M6GFLq2wOXyck5m3ciOgcKD8&AID=10597222&PID=1312731&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Tekken%2B6%2BLimited%2BEdition%2BWireless%2BFight% 2BStick%2BBundle%2B-%2BXbox%2B360/9542113.p%3Fid%3D1218122579381%26skuId%3D9542113%2 6cmp%3DRMX%26ky%3D2mgAShwh2M6GFLq2wOXyck5m3ciOgcKD 8&ref=39&CJPID=1312731&loc=01). It's a gigantic link and I'm afraid to cut some out and mess up some by trying to trim it.

[Iron Past]

Bah, I need to stop complaining. I actually really enjoy the game and think it's great, but getting worked over so thoroughly this weekend must have put me in a bitter mood. Then I had a GREAT handful of games this morning where I had a ton of fun, even if I lost most of them. Really fun when everything's working.

[Deadend]

Yeah, there are ways around it. Dante's is just my favorite. I still have a ton of trouble with a bad Sentinel, though, let alone a good one. Deadpool is meant to be a keepaway character, so he'll be frustrating either way but cheesey spam is way annoying.

Thankfully at tournament level play there's none of that by virtue of it not being successful. Even among my group of friends we're all quickly figuring out how to get past everyone's, barring my keepaway Amaterasu, which is just made too easy by cold shot forward or cold shot upward.

Unfortunately for whoever just bought the Tekken + stick, Best Buy has put it on sale here (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Tekken+6+Limited+Edition+Wireless+Fight+Stick+Bund le+-+Xbox+360/9542113.p?id=1218122579381&skuId=9542113&cmp=RMX&ky=2mgAShwh2M6GFLq2wOXyck5m3ciOgcKD8&AID=10597222&PID=1312731&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Tekken%2B6%2BLimited%2BEdition%2BWireless%2BFight% 2BStick%2BBundle%2B-%2BXbox%2B360/9542113.p%3Fid%3D1218122579381%26skuId%3D9542113%2 6cmp%3DRMX%26ky%3D2mgAShwh2M6GFLq2wOXyck5m3ciOgcKD 8&ref=39&CJPID=1312731&loc=01). It's a gigantic link and I'm afraid to cut some out and mess up some by trying to trim it.
I'm not even INTO MvC3 and I might go pick that up.

**Edit**
Damn, already gone from my area. Oh well.

[Lance Uppercut]

Picked this up yesterday, could not be happier with my purchase. I totally suck, but managed to have a blast with 2 other buddies anyway, since it's very noob friendly.

Look for me on PS3, though I've yet to try the online on this.

[Joshkdmw]

Anyone on the 360 who wants to fight can totes add me up. Gamertag: Joshkdmw

[Shrinn]

If you want to improve, a real easy way is to do your mission modes. They'll teach you a combos to memorize and what works. Another good resource for combos are the individual threads on Shoryuken. (http://shoryuken.com/f351/) A good combo so that you know what to do when you get that hit in you can do a decent amount of damage is a huge improvement on your game for only a slight bit of practice. Much less difficult than finding out all these pokes and entries and tiny properties and spacings.

Also, fuck me. Akuma has an infinite that seems pretty easy to pull off.

[Blue]

Just purchased today for the PS3. I'm awful at it but loving it just the same. Played through the Arcade mode with a random team of Magneto, Hulk, Dr. Doom and enjoyed all of them, Hulk much more so than I did in MvC2. Great game and I have so much more to learn.

[Joshkdmw]

I've been practicing up, and I finally have three reserve teams I kind of know how to handle. Who's gonna be online tonight?

[menage]

Got this yersterday and played all evening. THIS GAME IS AWESOME!

My favorite chara is Dante from the get go, followed by Iron Man and Amatarasu. Dante is really easy too pick up and seems all kind of awesome whatever I do. Those three are my start up team.

Other cahar's like She Hulk or Taskmaster don't really float my boat yet (I don't know how they work yet). But there's so much choice at the moment I'll get there.

I love the Ghouls and Ghosts stage, actually, him being in the game and seeing those backgrounds I wouldn't feel surprised to see an new DLC G&G one day.

[Talanvor]

I've been practicing up, and I finally have three reserve teams I kind of know how to handle. Who's gonna be online tonight?

I barely missed you and Lekon. Soon as I sent a message both of you logged off.

[Blue]

Name is in the sig if anyone wants to add me. I don't have a headset but I'm an amazing punching bag.

[Talanvor]

Name is in the sig if anyone wants to add me. I don't have a headset but I'm an amazing punching bag.

Nuts, I picked it up for the 360. I'm planning on getting a copy for the PS3 too when I can find a decent deal on it.

[Blue]

Bah! I never used LIVE and with my PC ended up selling the 360 so I didn't have much of a choice :). How's the controller on it or do you use a stick?

I need to pick up a stick sometime soon.

[Joshkdmw]

Got this yersterday and played all evening. THIS GAME IS AWESOME!

My favorite chara is Dante from the get go, followed by Iron Man and Amatarasu. Dante is really easy too pick up and seems all kind of awesome whatever I do. Those three are my start up team.


Playing Dante: an Exhaustive guide:

Step 1: MASH FACE ON CONTROLLER

Step 2: TOP SCORE :D


I barely missed you and Lekon. Soon as I sent a message both of you logged off.

Crap in a hat! Are you on twitter? Usually we set up matches via twitter, so you could get some advance notice, there.

[Widgetcraft]

I love the Ghouls and Ghosts stage, actually, him being in the game and seeing those backgrounds I wouldn't feel surprised to see an new DLC G&G one day.

Well, there was a remake made for the PSP not too long ago, so Capcom certainly hasn't forgotten the series:

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[Talanvor]

Bah! I never used LIVE and with my PC ended up selling the 360 so I didn't have much of a choice http://67.227.189.160/%7Ecolonyof/cogforums/images/smilies/smile.gif. How's the controller on it or do you use a stick?

I need to pick up a stick sometime soon.

I'm using the SFIV TE MadCatz stick, it's quite nice really. I can't play fighters on pads, it just feels wrong. I originally learned how to play in arcades so whenever I use a pad I can't do anything.

Playing Dante: an Exhaustive guide:

Step 1: MASH FACE ON CONTROLLER

Step 2: TOP SCORE :D

Freaking Dante. Almost every person I play has Dante on their team. My personal favorite is Dante, Deadpool, Sentinel.

Crap in a hat! Are you on twitter? Usually we set up matches via twitter, so you could get some advance notice, there.

Ah okay, followed both you and Lekon. Now I just gotta remember to check it. :D

[Iron Past]

For Ranked matches, at least, I'm done till the first balance patch, which I also assume will have Spectator and Replay modes. Unbelievable how screwed up some of this stuff is. Nothing game breaking, but enough that people are taking advantage of stuff that I think they shouldn't be.

Maybe since I won't play certain characters till I consider them more balanced or refuse to try out loop combos (resets or infinites) this isn't for me. That seems to be how everyone plays, so maybe that's just the game. :(

[Talanvor]

Just stick with player matches, much more fun.

Though, yeah, no spectator mode is awful. About the only thing they improved was the ability to "pass" your turn, since some people streamed lobbies for Super and there was no way for a host who wasn't playing to pass. Just had to wait for the timeout. Nearly everything else about the lobbies is actually worse though.

[Iron Past]

I have more fun in the Player matches for sure, but matchmaking seems 10x worse. There's also the people that like to just flounder in low ranked matches without leveling up so they can beat folks silly, and the game seems to think I want to still be paired with them after I leave a match. :confused:

[menage]

Playing Dante: an Exhaustive guide:

Step 1: MASH FACE ON CONTROLLER

Step 2: TOP SCORE :D


Goddammit, I hate it when my favorite chara turns out to be the new Sagat. I'll probably stick with him till I get the game in my fingers though (my thumb has a blister at the moment), still not good at the airstuff now.

Any info on who's top tier and who is pretty much useless around?

Well, there was a remake made for the PSP not too long ago, so Capcom certainly hasn't forgotten the series:

Yeah I know, I cursed them for only making it PSP though, since I don't own one.

This HD stage gave me some hope.

[Wolvie]

For Ranked matches, at least, I'm done till the first balance patch, which I also assume will have Spectator and Replay modes. Unbelievable how screwed up some of this stuff is. Nothing game breaking, but enough that people are taking advantage of stuff that I think they shouldn't be.

Maybe since I won't play certain characters till I consider them more balanced or refuse to try out loop combos (resets or infinites) this isn't for me. That seems to be how everyone plays, so maybe that's just the game. :(

Nah, SF4 was like that too. You'd have people spamming fireballs just to be cheesy. That's just how competitive gaming is, people will abuse whatever lame tactic they can to win. That's why I tend to play MP only when I'm really in the mood for it... and avoid it like the plague in fighting games. Unless one of you guys or someone in RL wants to play.

[menage]

Or when you become a god and just destroy them, sadly I'm not 12 anymore so I don't have the time to become one:P

But yeah, I play these games to get the prettiest/most insane fight out of it, winning is actually not really that important to me. Spamming fireballs seems rather boring.

[Wolvie]

Same here, I like a good fighting game like this just for good clean non-serious fun. After watching some tournament videos in the past, I started to think like you do; that competitive fighting game play is boring.
I mean, it's all poking and skittish dodging in and out mixed with move spamming. Bleh. Fuck that noise, if that's what it takes to be a "high level athletic competitive gamer" than I am planting my happy ass in the casual camp and staying there.

[Iron Past]

You guys are right, for sure. I really don't care if I win (all the time), I just want a good game. I'm probably much more frustrated with matchmaking than anything in the game, to be honest. Being 100% comboed out of existence is no fun. I've found a good, slower way to play till I get better that suits me more for now, and I think the ranking system is shaking out better now. :)

Any info on who's top tier and who is pretty much useless around?

Wesker is a fucking beast in my opinion, and Seninel and Dante are just under him. It's too early to really tell, though. No one seems to be using Viewtiful Joe, and even though I love using Captain America, I doubt he's destined for tournament level play.

[Talanvor]

There's a big tournament going on in Philly this weekend, been watching the stream of it. Nearly every single team has Sentinel on it. There's a lot of Dantes too. Wesker not so much, for whatever reason. He does have a lot of potential though, I'm just not a fan of teleporting.

[Iron Past]

God, I got slapped silly by someone using Wesker really well. If I blinked I lost a teammate. Some crazy teleport combos that guy had.

[Joshkdmw]

Goddammit, I hate it when my favorite chara turns out to be the new Sagat. I'll probably stick with him till I get the game in my fingers though (my thumb has a blister at the moment), still not good at the airstuff now.

Any info on who's top tier and who is pretty much useless around?


Dante's not all that bad, IMO. Sentinel has a much higher potential to be a pain in the ass. I use Dante all the time, and I still get trounced. Using him well takes a lot of practice, I think. Keep using him if you like him. Lord knows others (Lekon) have no problem using cheap tricks to win a match.

[Iron Past]

Seriously, how does matchmaking in Player matches work? It seems like it's off of the overall rank, when it should really have its own win/loss ranking system. It means someone that is much more skilled can indefinitely stay in low tier games right now. Boo.

That's why I like Ranked--if someone wins, they're forced to move on. But I have no idea what it takes for people to move up, since it seems pretty disproportionate based on the guys I face. Also, in Ranked almost every team has at least two of the following: Dante, Wesker, Sentinel and Zero. Zero's a little motherfucker. And I lied about not playing Ranked, but whatcha gonna do, huh? I'm actually improving pretty well.

Edit: I thought I was doing something wrong, then I watched some streams of the Winter Brawl stuff. I don't feel so bad about those losses now. :)

[Shrinn]

Wesker is a fucking beast in my opinion, and Seninel and Dante are just under him. It's too early to really tell, though. No one seems to be using Viewtiful Joe, and even though I love using Captain America, I doubt he's destined for tournament level play.

Check out the videos of Wednesday Night Fight to see what the top level fighting game people (Justin Wong) are doing at the top level of this game.

http://www.justin.tv/offcast/b/280282605 If you want just the finals skip to part 2.

[menage]

Dante's not all that bad, IMO. Sentinel has a much higher potential to be a pain in the ass. I use Dante all the time, and I still get trounced. Using him well takes a lot of practice, I think. Keep using him if you like him. Lord knows others (Lekon) have no problem using cheap tricks to win a match.

Yeah, as long as I'm not spamming the same moves in a row I'm pretty guilt free as far as I'm concerned. I'm not picking a lesser chara just to feel good about kicking someone's ass.

Also, Amatarasu really clicks with me, she's great. And Captain America really kicks ass as well.

I hate Spiderman though, can't land a decent move if I tried.

[Joshkdmw]

Also, if you guys ever play Lekon, pro tip: Don't spam any move at all ever for even a second. Because he's happy to respond in kind in an almost childish display of tit-for-tat retribution. And then take it further.

[Lekon]

Also, if you guys ever play Lekon, pro tip: Don't spam any move at all ever for even a second. Because he's happy to respond in kind in an almost childish display of tit-for-tat retribution. And then take it further.

Lekon worked as a teacher for quite awhile. He's rather fond of playing to teach. Gradually ratcheting the skill he throws at you. When he sees a problem in a repetitive issue, he finds it necessary to show just how fast that action can be broken online. Corrective discipline.

[Joshkdmw]

Lekon worked as a teacher for quite awhile. He's rather fond of playing to teach. Gradually ratcheting the skill he throws at you. When he sees a problem in a repetitive issue, he finds it necessary to show just how fast that action can be broken online. Corrective discipline.

Feel free to instruct me verbally in the future on such matters. I'm older than seven years old, so I understand words and the meanings attached to them when used. Christ, if a kid spills his milk, what do you do, smack him?

:D

[Shrinn]

Dump milk all over the child's head.

I really like Ammy as my backup spam-beater. With her reflect shield I can just wait it out and I'm usually ahead on life if they're resorting to spamming.

[KamaItachi]

Got my copy last night and I'm very impressed. Not sure if it's the arcade stick or the game itself is a lot more accessible, but I've found I've been able to pull off a lot more than I ever was in number 2. I'm still rubbish, but it feels good to be able to look like I've got a semblance of skill.

[Xydarc]

Huh, surprised no one has posted this yet:

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[Lekon]

Feel free to instruct me verbally in the future on such matters. I'm older than seven years old, so I understand words and the meanings attached to them when used. Christ, if a kid spills his milk, what do you do, smack him?

:D

Words can pass through the mind. A spike to the cranium tends to *stay* there. I'm very direct in teaching!

And if a kid spills his milk. I get him a new one. Clumsiness is natural for a child, no reason to be mad at him for learning how to work his own body.

You're Canadian, not a child. Different teaching methods are needed! :p

[MachEnergy]

Clumsiness is natural for a child, no reason to be mad at him for learning how to work his own body.

If I were one to take things out of context, this could be quite humorous. Wait, yes.....there's a chuckle. :D

[Joshkdmw]

Words can pass through the mind. A spike to the cranium tends to *stay* there. I'm very direct in teaching!

And if a kid spills his milk. I get him a new one. Clumsiness is natural for a child, no reason to be mad at him for learning how to work his own body.

You're Canadian, not a child. Different teaching methods are needed! :p

I still dislike how everyone on this site uses "Canadian" like it's an epithet, or some terrible fate. Like there's an aunt on the family nobody talks about.

"Oh, we don't discuss aunt nancy. She's... *glances around* Canadian."

[Lekon]

I still dislike how everyone on this site uses "Canadian" like it's an epithet, or some terrible fate. Like there's an aunt on the family nobody talks about.

"Oh, we don't discuss aunt nancy. She's... *glances around* Canadian."

You didn't know? It's been a running gag for ages. Mostly since there is functionally no difference between Canuks and Amerikns. But it *IS* one of the easiest ways to explain away something in a mildly insulting way.

Hell, I am partially Canadian anyways.

[Wolvie]

I still dislike how everyone on this site uses "Canadian" like it's an epithet, or some terrible fate. Like there's an aunt on the family nobody talks about.

"Oh, we don't discuss aunt nancy. She's... *glances around* Canadian."

Hey hey hey, thats not fair. Everyone? I love you Canuckleheads damnit! Hell if I could afford it I'd move there.

[Joshkdmw]

You didn't know? It's been a running gag for ages. Mostly since there is functionally no difference between Canuks and Amerikns. But it *IS* one of the easiest ways to explain away something in a mildly insulting way.

Hell, I am partially Canadian anyways.

You can't be partially canadian. It's a nationality, you plebeian fuck. It's not like being a quarter Irish on your maternal grandmother's side. Either you're a canadian citizen or you're not! :p

Hey hey hey, thats not fair. Everyone? I love you Canuckleheads damnit! Hell if I could afford it I'd move there.

Fair warning: The kind of people vary wildly depending on province. A quick, general guide:

British Colombia: Very progressive culture, big pot culture, and huge urban sprawls where it always rains. Has some of the most beautiful locales in the country.

Alberta/Saskatchewan: Lots of cowboys and farmers, and huge, open fields. Calgary is either a great place to live, or the shittiest place on earth, depending on where you live. Saskatoon has a bunch of bridges and a meth problem, with the problems of larger cities on a generally smaller scale.

Manitoba: The single least interesting province on the planet, so people are generally nice to each other because it's a shit place to have to live.

Ontario: Tons of small hamlets all spread out and a huge city that is utterly convinced that the world begins and ends at its borders, who don't really believe that the prairies exist.

Quebec: Here be francophones, delicious cuisine, progressive fashion, and generally speaking the cultural cutting edge, but it is mocked throughout canada for reasons that have never been adequately explained to me. Held some referendums to secede, they didn't pass, and nobody's made a big stink about it in FOREVER.

Newfoundland, The maritimes in general: Weird accents and lots of seafood, coupled with farmer types and people who get drunk frequently in a streak that would charlie sheen's mouth gape.

PEI: Like above, but very exclusionary and elitist. They don't want you there, I guarantee it. The dirt is rusty red, and it's super noticeable and a HUGE mindfuck, even when you've lived there for a while.

Nunavut, Northwest Territories, and Yukon Territories: Very very very few people, lots and lots of seals and shit, tons of blowing snow. This is the stereotypical canada they show in cartoons.


But... I thought wolverine was Canadian.

[Vigil80]

Mostly since there is functionally no difference between Canuks and Amerikns.
I'm not so sure about that...

[Joshkdmw]

I'm not so sure about that...

There are more similarities than there are differences.

[Iron Past]

So ANYway...

Shadow Battle 01 (free) and the Costume Pack ($5) are up. Grabbing both because I really like the costumes (sorry for feeding the beast).

[menage]

So I guess PSN is tomorrow?

[Iron Past]

So I guess PSN is tomorrow?

I guess so. At least, I can't find anything on PSN right now.

[Joshkdmw]

After some practice, I've picked up some new tricks with Spencer. He's pretty fun to swing around the stage with, but you gotta be careful. Miscalculate the angle and you'l take a fireball right in your boyberries.

[DiBiddilyBop]

I just picked this up today. Now, I like to think I'm pretty good at fighting games. I ranked up pretty high in SF4, SC4, BlazBlue and did really well in Tekken back in the day. That being said, I have no clue what the hell is going on in this game. At one point, I was fairly certain the computer was doing some crazy combo culminating in a super that was going to kill me when, to my shock and amazement, it was I who had performed the combo. I think the Penny Arcade strip really summed it up well and I have a long, LONG way to go before I gain any kind of grasp of the mechanics behind this game.

[Joshkdmw]

I just picked this up today. Now, I like to think I'm pretty good at fighting games. I ranked up pretty high in SF4, SC4, BlazBlue and did really well in Tekken back in the day. That being said, I have no clue what the hell is going on in this game. At one point, I was fairly certain the computer was doing some crazy combo culminating in a super that was going to kill me when, to my shock and amazement, it was I who had performed the combo. I think the Penny Arcade strip really summed it up well and I have a long, LONG way to go before I gain any kind of grasp of the mechanics behind this game.

How to play MvC3 online: an exhaustive guide

1: Mash face on controller

2: TOP SCORE



Alternate plan: Play as Sentinel, Phoenix, Dante.

[OrangePulp]

Pretty sure I just played some matches against someone using the simplified control scheme. I really don't like that you can go online with that; at lower levels of play (where I'm at) it gives a significant advantage, at no cost other than shame. Guess I just need to get better, to the point where that kind of thing doesn't matter.

Shame about all the shit in Japan delaying the DLC; was looking forward to messing around with new characters.

[Joshkdmw]

And I was looking forward to a spectator mode, but it looks like we're fucked on that, too.

*sigh*

That's all the damn game needed to be a 10 in my books.

[OrangePulp]

Has there even been any word on a timeframe for spectator mode? Although I guess if even something like the DLC is getting pushed back, that goes double for everything else.

I read somewhere they claimed that spectator mode was harder to implement than SSF4 on account of having more characters, being faster, whatever bullshit. What I wonder is, whoever made that statement, did they forget that MvC2 released on XBLA with spectator mode?

Ranked matches could really stand to be streamlined in having people select their team before the match starts. There's no reason to match up, then go to team select, when you can't counterpick or anything like that. You always pick your team blind, so why not have you do that before the match starts?

[Iron Past]

I read somewhere they claimed that spectator mode was harder to implement than SSF4 on account of having more characters, being faster, whatever bullshit. What I wonder is, whoever made that statement, did they forget that MvC2 released on XBLA with spectator mode?

Yeah, that's BS. All they do is record inputs an then replay them on the system that's watching it. I'm not saying it isn't any harder, but certainly not enough to justify not having it.

[Talanvor]

I was able to get the character pack, but I got the code from the CE.

I don't think I like how Jill controls (not a fan of stance changing characters), will have to investigate more.

[Iron Past]

How's Shuma? He looked realy fun to play.

[OrangePulp]

Had some good matches with Lekon and Josh, but goddamn does this game need spectate badly. With three people it wasn't really a problem, only sitting out at most half the time, but anything more than that and I just wouldn't be able to stand it.

Just grabbed Shuma and Jill (thank you MS point card on sale), gonna go check them out now.

[BLeeP]

Ugh, I really want to try the new characters but Xbox Live is saying my code is invalid. Apparently this is a widespread problem, too. I don't see why they couldn't just print the Xbox Live Code on the book instead of going through all of this sillyness of having to register for a Capcom account and entering one code to get another. Seems like a case of making something difficult simply for the purpose of doing so.

[menage]

I thought the new chara's were delayed and now they aren't??

[Joshkdmw]

Had some good matches with Lekon and Josh, but goddamn does this game need spectate badly. With three people it wasn't really a problem, only sitting out at most half the time, but anything more than that and I just wouldn't be able to stand it.

Just grabbed Shuma and Jill (thank you MS point card on sale), gonna go check them out now.

Those rounds were fun! Mostly! Mostly.
damn hadouken spam...

[Talanvor]

I thought the new chara's were delayed and now they aren't??

They just were delayed in Japan, looks like they're up everywhere else.

[menage]

They just were delayed in Japan, looks like they're up everywhere else.

Pfff, I just checked out their prices. They can stick them where the sun don't shine.

Oooh were donating every 1 dollar SF4 iPhone sale to the eartquake disaster. A game everyone who wanted it already owns, and then they charge 5 FUCKING EURO per chara!!! for this.

I paid 35 for the full game. FU Capcom, FU. If you had any balls you would donate this moneny to that cause, because they certainly didn't cost 5 buck a piece to make.

End rant: (I know every buck for charity is a good buck, but the balance is screwed right there).

[Joshkdmw]

Ooh, that price is a bitter pill to swallow. Sprung for Jill anyways. She better be baller.

EDIT: Okay, she's kind of neat. Can be pretty zippy. I'll have to see hw she handles online. I paid five damn dollars for her and by jesus, I'm gonna USE her.

[OrangePulp]

Apparently a patch just hit. Details from SRK (http://shoryuken.com/content/marvel-vs-capcom-3-adjustment-patch-3973/). Holy crap there's a lot of whining in the comments. I'd say that nerfing sent's health down to 905k may have been a bit extreme, but it's funny to see all the people complaining about the fact that they're doing any patching at all. I prefer balanced games myself, even if it takes a while to get there.

[Joshkdmw]

I think the Nerf was called for. That was a character in desperate fucking need of some balance. And now I won't see it so goddamn much online.

[OrangePulp]

Mmm, I'm starting to think it was a mistake playing the few ranked matches that I did. Before I had ranked up at all, I used to get some people that were way better, some around the same, and a few that were way worse. Now all I seem to get are people that are way better than me, and should probably be ranked higher except that they haven't played enough ranked matches.

I'd like to get better at this game, but I also don't really want to spend hours in training mode ironing out the tons of execution errors I have.

[Iron Past]

Yeah, my prolem has always been with the matchmaking. Player Matches are good to practice, but it doesn't seem to track win/loss or rank, so you get people worried about their ratio that spend all their time there (who are obviously way better than the piddly rank they have indicates). Ranked matches are better, but everyone else in it is always so much higher either no one near my rank plays or the matchmaking totally sucks; plus, being ranked, folks are much more likely to resort to cheap tactcs/teams to win.

It also seems like they drove the more casual players away by releasing the game in the state they did; I know I stopped playing while waiting for a balance patch or two, and I don't know if others that did the same thing will end up going back in. But Heaven help you if you mention 'unbalance' around people that play the game seriously (rolleyes, etc).

[Talanvor]

The funny thing is they didn't touch Sentinel's damage output. So he's still a monster when level 3 x-factor is going.

Oh and I thought this was funny.

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[Elrik Murder]

Really, Capcom? A $1 for Shadow Battle 02? I wasn't impressed at all. Basically, Vs. Com...again. I'd pay $2 for spectator mode though. :D

Am I missing something? Anybody else like this mode?

[menage]

No, it´s like playing online without the the online.

So many possibilties, seems for a company like Capcom their online approach to their games sometimes baffles me. Go take a look at Blaz Blue and learn.

[Talanvor]

Maybe they should hire out a studio in the US that does nothing but netcode and online modes. It seems like Japanese dev houses either do a really half-hearted job at online or it'll be so tightly optimized it only works in places with really great home connections, i.e. Tokyo and Seoul.

I still don't get why playing Super online is so much better than Marvel. It's not just the lack of spectator mode (huge part I admit) it's just the entire experience. Oh I couldn't connect? Sure kick me out all the way to the damn main menu. That's where I wanted to be!

Why the hell can't I even mess with my license card when I'm watching the battle cards hump? Agggh!!

[OrangePulp]

Yeah, considering they showed they could do good online with SSF4... It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that MvC3's is so subpar. In this day and age, having quality online play should be the number one priority in fighting games (beyond, you know, making a good game).

[Shrinn]

The funny thing is they didn't touch Sentinel's damage output. So he's still a monster when level 3 x-factor is going.


He's meant to be a monster but he has trouble opening a safe player up, especially one who knows to fear the power of x-factor level 3 sentinel. The nerf was mostly to him as an assist, as he's now much more vulnerable as that huge target.

[Iron Past]

Unless I missed a patch somewhere, I just a new beefy one. I don't know what else it did, but it informed me I have a couple new Events available; I don't remember having finish Arcade in 1-on-1 and 2-on-2 before. Also the new Shadow Mode deal, of course.

[Mashidar]

MvC3: Dante (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/viewer.php?id=566328&key=RkRdZhXzNtOzdxbStiNWY2MTQxMmY2QjA5MzIrN19xM2Iz MjE7QjY0QlYxOzJWOTNiNTIwZjErVnFfOTcxbTk5NjE1OTI1OQ %3D%3D&sandboxid=4d9df20d17c37) Some might feel NSFW only because of how Morrigan dresses.

It's from Newgrounds, but I can't help but laugh at it. Then again I might be late to the party it seems this came out April 1st. :D

[SilentScreams]

What did I just watch?

[Talanvor]

MvC3: Dante (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/viewer.php?id=566328&key=RkRdZhXzNtOzdxbStiNWY2MTQxMmY2QjA5MzIrN19xM2Iz MjE7QjY0QlYxOzJWOTNiNTIwZjErVnFfOTcxbTk5NjE1OTI1OQ %3D%3D&sandboxid=4d9df20d17c37) Some might feel NSFW only because of how Morrigan dresses.

It's from Newgrounds, but I can't help but laugh at it. Then again I might be late to the party it seems this came out April 1st. :D

That was great. I never pictured Morrigan doing anything like that but it's hilarious for some reason. I'm not sure, maybe Felicia could have pulled it off too.

[Ancalagon]

Check this IGN character wishlist (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/936/936212p1.html)for Street Fighter 4.

Notice that 5 of the characters they wished for made it into M vs C. Quite interesting.

I have this game sitting in my laptop bag, for Xbox 360.

Theres just one problem. No, I dont have the RROD. Its a good problem. The problem is, I've ordered two custom arcade sticks from a guy in Cape Town, and it will be about 2 weeks until I get them. So, my dilemma is, play the game now or wait until I get the two sticks. I really am thinking of waiting until I get the sticks.

[menage]

Wait for the sticks I'd say. Retraining yourself is a bitch imo.

[Ancalagon]

Wait for the sticks I'd say. Retraining yourself is a bitch imo.

Yeah thats what I've decided to do. Hopefully the guy makes them in closer to 2 weeks than 3!

EDIT: If anyone is interested, this (http://www.twobop.co.za/blog/2011/04/28/custom-sticks/) is the guy who is making my sticks. Mine are going to have white buttons and a white balltop, with the wood dyed/varnished to a very dark colour (but not painted black like the one in the photos). R1500 in local currency, which according to the currency converter is US$213 each. For a custom built stick with Xbox 360 (I specifically made sure of this fact) and PS3 support, built with Sanwa parts, I think its a good deal. I looked into building my own, but I couldnt do anything close to that price (when importing is factored in) and I'm not confident of my soldering and woodworking skills. That includes all taxes and shipping.

[Talanvor]

That looks quite nice. One thing, will the parts be easy to swap out? Like say if you need to replace a button or the stick. That's one of the great things about the Madcatz sticks is they're pretty damn easy to change the parts on if need be.

I'm really surprised no one's been able to come up with a little converter box for these things. Almost all of the ones that I've seen have either lag issues or the inputs don't always register.

[Ancalagon]

I havent asked, but I cant imagine it being too bad to modify. I mean, the guy has to fit all of the parts himself, its in his interest to make it easier for him to do.

[Shrinn]

A converter would be too easy. It's my understanding that you need a whole new controller processing board inside the controller. I'll be trying to mod my Hori Fighting Stick 3 assuming I can find that Dual Modding 101 guide on SRK again.

[Talanvor]

A converter would be too easy. It's my understanding that you need a whole new controller processing board inside the controller. I'll be trying to mod my Hori Fighting Stick 3 assuming I can find that Dual Modding 101 guide on SRK again.

I don't see why. Take this signal, turn it into that signal. Man I wish I knew more about this kind of thing.

Edit: Oh wait, I forgot. MS slaps encryption on their controls for some reason.

[OrangePulp]

Nice; how much did they run? I've thought about picking up a stick, but I've never really used one before, so I'd probably start with something cheap.

[Talanvor]

Nice; how much did they run? I've thought about picking up a stick, but I've never really used one before, so I'd probably start with something cheap.

That's a tough one. Almost always you get what you pay for in a stick, just getting something cheap is usually not a good route to go. I'd almost say try out the Madcatz SE if you can find one, that way you can mod it out with better buttons and stick if you like it but that's some work. In the end you'd spend almost as much as getting the nicer TE.

Probably the best solution is to see if you can borrow one from a buddy, or if there's an arcade nearby try it out (even if the games are older). Last ditch try finding a used one from a local Gamestop, that way you can return it in 30 days.

[Shrinn]

Edit: Oh wait, I forgot. MS slaps encryption on their controls for some reason.

Yeah, as far as my limited knowledge goes that's where the issue comes from.

Nice; how much did they run? I've thought about picking up a stick, but I've never really used one before, so I'd probably start with something cheap.

All of my friends bought SSF4 TE sticks ($180 or more). (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o168/TomFum/7325ddad.jpg) My understanding is that they are considered the best (or one of the best) mass produced sticks. However, I bought my Hori Fighting Stick 3 (http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Fighting-Stick-3-Playstation/dp/B000MWE3BI) ($40 off of some site during a Season's Beatings promotion, unfortunately I can't find it now) and I absolutely love the thing. Despite learning on the SSF4 TE stick I love the light feel of the controller and the fact that I actually have to push a button to get it to register. A gentle breeze on the TE stick's buttons will register an input and it's infuriating, to me, especially because it feels natural to me to rest my fingers lightly on the buttons.

One of my friends who plays SSF4 professionally also agrees that the Hori is a very solid controller and sometimes prefers it to the TE that he owns himself.

[Talanvor]

Huh, I have a Round 1 TE for the 360 and this SCIV Hori stick (http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Soul-Calibur-Arcade-Stick-3/dp/B0018OCJ60/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1306278607&sr=1-2) for the PS3, which looks very similar to yours Shrinn. I greatly prefer the TE, the buttons feel more responsive and the travel more fluid. But that's all down to personal preference really.

Oh and Orange one thing I forgot to add: Usually switching from pad->stick means you'll actually play worse until you get adjusted. So if you end up trying it don't be surprised if that happens.

[KamaItachi]

Oh and Orange one thing I forgot to add: Usually switching from pad->stick means you'll actually play worse until you get adjusted. So if you end up trying it don't be surprised if that happens.

I liken the difference of using a pad to a stick to driving an automatic vs a manual. You get a lot more control in the latter, but you have a much harder learning curve to use it initially.

[Scull]

I'm terrible at this game. I love it, but the abuse I suffer at its hands is just massive.

[Joshkdmw]

I'm terrible at this game. I love it, but the abuse I suffer at its hands is just massive.

Same here. Play with Lekon sometime. You will invent profanities.

[Lekon]

Same here. Play with Lekon sometime. You will invent profanities.

Son of a biscutnut was my favorite one you uttered.

[Joshkdmw]

Son of a biscutnut was my favorite one you uttered.

I was rather proud of cockdicker, myself.

[Talanvor]

I gotta play with you guys just to hear new obscenities.

[OrangePulp]

I need to get back to playing this game. Fire me a steam message if you want to play sometime.

[Joshkdmw]

I gotta play with you guys just to hear new obscenities.

Fair warning, I'm a screamer. And if I shout "wait!" Just ignore it, it's like a nervous tic when my ass is getting beat.

[Talanvor]

Fair warning, I'm a screamer. And if I shout "wait!" Just ignore it, it's like a nervous tic when my ass is getting beat.

I don't remember that from the last times we've played. Is that something new? What did Lekon do to you?

[Lekon]

I don't remember that from the last times we've played. Is that something new? What did Lekon do to you?

At last count:

2 infractions worthy of a misdemeanor.
3 incidents illegal in more than five American states.
1 issue considered illegal in Canada, but legal in the US.
4 violations of human decency prohibited by the Geneva convention.

[Joshkdmw]

At last count:

2 infractions worthy of a misdemeanor.
3 incidents illegal in more than five American states.
1 issue considered illegal in Canada, but legal in the US.
4 violations of human decency prohibited by the Geneva convention.

2 of the latter of which also violate the human rights amendment. Primarily with Hsien-Ko.