Art / drawing thread

[Joshkdmw]

So I tried to find a thread on art/drawing, but it didn't look like there was one here. Figured it could be neat for people who like to draw pr paint or sculpt to get together and talk shop with one another.

My background is this: I was one of those kids who wanted to be an artist for a couple of years, but never really displayed any sort of talent for it. After not progressing for a while, I gave it up, save some doodles in notebooks, that sort of thing.

Last year, I took a proper art class at my university (I needed an option, and I got graded to draw shit), which started off neat, but quickly got very abstract and obtuse. I learned maybe three practical techniques that I still use. That was hundreds and hundreds of dollars well-spent. :mad:

I stayed away from drawing for a while, but a few months back, I found myself doodling more than usual. I grabbed a small sketchbook and used it to draw sometimes, and the pages started to fill quicker than I anticipated.

I'm not really very good, yet. Nobody's gonna ask to buy my shit any time soon, but for the first time in a long time, I'm enjoying drawing - and not as a social thing. Just drawing for myself. I figure it's a good hobby to have.

A lot of the time my sketches are either done with a gel-pen (Sarasa) as that's what I always have on me. But when I make a point to, or I'm at home, I like to work with Conté.

That's one thing the art class gave me - I got ample opportunity to try different mediums. Graphite's too bland and lifeless, Charcoal's got great feel and tone, but it's just too damn malleable. I like conte because it has the vibrancy and capacity for granularity, and doesn't smudge as easily as charcoal. I found a colour set for 25 bucks with 24 shades - immediately purchased.

So, I dunno. Let's all talk shop. Let's show our art and give critiques, and ask advice. I'll get the ball rolling with two drawings I did this week:

This one I did the day I saw vertigo. You know the part where jimmy stewart's falling and the screen goes all spirally? I thought it was a neat effect and tried something in that vein. The materials were some fine-point felt markers and standard medium-tooth paper.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/Scan.jpg

This next one I did today. I used kind of the same background, but I wanted to see the background effect done with Conté, you know, to see it fill in better. I didn't wanna just re-create the other drawing, though, so I chose a new figure - I like to think of the figure as Bruce lee. Done with conté, same paper as before.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/brucelee.jpg

Thoughts? Critiques? I'm trying to work on my anatomical proportions.

[TheEpicOfTyler]

Not to be "that guy", but there is a whole forum dedicated to creative arts. :p

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

[Joshkdmw]

Did not know that. I'll ask a mod to move it.

EDIT: It has been done. Yay, mods! Nice fast turnaround rate.

[Ink Asylum]

So Bioware today posted a bunch of Mass Effect Valentines I drew last year and the resulting traffic killed my website for a little while. Not that I'm complaining!

Mass Effect Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/masseffect?v=wall#!/album.php?aid=270066&id=85811091644&comments)

[Joshkdmw]

So Bioware today posted a bunch of Mass Effect Valentines I drew last year and the resulting traffic killed my website for a little while. Not that I'm complaining!

Mass Effect Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/masseffect?v=wall#!/album.php?aid=270066&id=85811091644&comments)

Holy shit those are cool. Are you a professional artist?

[Ink Asylum]

I'm a professional graphic designer but illustration is, so far, just a hobby. Thanks for the compliment!

[evilgoodwin]

I'm a professional graphic designer but illustration is, so far, just a hobby. Thanks for the compliment!

I think everyone on here with a webcomic idea just wrote your name down. :D

[Ink Asylum]

I have my own webcomic ideas. :) Just not the time to get them done.

[Joshkdmw]

Jeez ink, there's dudes tweeting about your cards all over the damn place. You're like an internet celebrity.

[Scaryfaced]

A doodle thread? Don't mind if I do!

Alright, critique time. The first picture, i'd recommend two things off the top of my head. To start with, when your scribbling in to fill up a shape, I'd say attempt to stick to the same angle and direction as you go. If you're going back over it, try to go the opposite direction. If you scribbled first horizontally, go vertically, etc. It helps to keep shapes separate from one another. Second, hit the shape in the center with a bold, thick outline. The shape gets lost a little in all the scribbling, so a good outline would help.

I don't have much to say about your second try, except the same advice about a hard outline. Specifically, a hard red outline around the red swirls would emphasis them and help the color to pop.

Hope that was seen as criticism of the constructive kind. I'd post of some my recent drawings, but my doodle's have been a skipping record of 40k stuff for months now.

[LordDon]

Wife's valentines card (that I'm still working on)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J20q-D5sNj0/TVg64xI_V4I/AAAAAAAAAuI/IJ4JrgFGku0/s1600/piratesketch1.png

[Joshkdmw]

That is pretty friggin' badass. Romantic pirates? Nice.

[violent]

This is what I do at work.


Abraham Lincoln next to my Cuban coffee:
http://i.imgur.com/XzF8d.jpg

Altoids:
http://i.imgur.com/mmIwO.jpg

On hold with our virtual server company:
http://i.imgur.com/Eqp19.jpg

Still on hold:
http://i.imgur.com/jctx2.jpg

Monkey man and my tshirt design:
http://i.imgur.com/zpBiD.jpg

Service survey. Comment: smiling horse:
http://i.imgur.com/GUODZ.jpg

Drew a background for our Chicken Kitchen fridge magnet:
http://i.imgur.com/deVqQ.jpg

[Bone]

Rough sketches for a funny zombie game I am trying to design.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee153/_B_o_n_e_/Art/zombie.jpg

Once I ripped off his jaw and hung the tongue out, I wanted the body to have a similar silhouette so I pulled an intestine out. I think the idea works.

[Scaryfaced]

The idea definitely works. Though the poses make me think your zombie's crossing the finish line at an undead marathon :D

Nice doodles, Violent.

[Bone]

Heh, yeah. The zombies in my game would be a little more active and way more excitable than a Romero zombie. Actually if you can imagine them as similar to the headless screaming berserkers in Serious Sam, that's sort of the comedic tone I was going for.

[KillerMcDead]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/bigmike33/panther.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/bigmike33/turbolover.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/bigmike33/56258_479137130189_547810189_7197113_3549851_o.jpg

Just some stuff I did while I should have been working. I need a to buy another Tablet, doing this shit with a mouse is horrid.

[Bone]

Good stuff! Are they paint-overs, or from reference, or from the brain? Either way, cool style.

[KillerMcDead]

Thanks. The first 2 are vector images of some concert photos I took at Pax Prime, the 3rd is a combination of some of the band's album art and another photo from the concert.

[Scaryfaced]

Here's a few select sketches I've been working on in the past few days. I tend to get obsessed with certain subjects and try to wring as much possible creativity out of them as possible.

My current obsession is the Blood Pact, the Khorne equivalent of the Imperial Guard in the Gaunt's Ghosts 40k novels. Think of them as an evil version of a modern army. In the books, they're described as wearing iron masks featuring sneering, hook nosed grotesques. I decided to take a little liberty with the iron masks, giving each squad of soldiers a different central theme their particular masks are based on.

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture23.jpg

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture25.jpg

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture26.jpg

I have a lot more. If you guys like em, I'll keep posting later tonight.

[Joshkdmw]

I like! Post 'em!

[Scaryfaced]

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture27.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture29.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture30.jpg

[Wasson_]

HEY...draw the GWAR vs Space Marines picture!!!

[LordDon]

That is pretty friggin' badass. Romantic pirates? Nice.

Thanks Josh, still plugging away at it. (god I'm slow and easily distracted. It's a good thing she's patient.)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oNszh3H-iZc/TWx-zWFgIHI/AAAAAAAAAvc/RY01-6xJTmA/s1600/piratesketch2.jpg

[evilgoodwin]

I like it!

I also like Scaryfaced's Scary Faces. Freaky masks are cool.

[Scaryfaced]

I'm loving LordDon's work.

So I've been sketching out the members of GWAR to finally finish Wasson's request. I made a first attempt at it, featuring the Cuttlefish blasting a Space Marine in the face, but I'm going to try again with more exaggerated versions of the band. Here's a peak...

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture39.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture41.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture40.jpg

I'm beginning to think GWAR used the whole Chaos faction as inspiration.

[LordDon]

So disgustingly awesome, Scaryfaced.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, everyone. Hopefully I'll get a chance to get more done on it tonight and I'll post an update. Latest Valentine's gift evar. I'm going to color it and everything to make up for the lateness.

[Joshkdmw]

Did a sketch today I thought I'd share.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/castle.jpg

It's a freeze-frame of Nathan Fillion as Richard Castle (yay tivo pausing).

Thoughts?

[Ink Asylum]

Looks good. Doing a full outline of the lips on a man can look too much like lipstick unless it's done in a very subtle manner.

[Joshkdmw]

Looks good. Doing a full outline of the lips on a man can look too much like lipstick unless it's done in a very subtle manner.

Boy, I'll say. Conte's tricky, too. I'll try very slight shading next time I do the lips.

As it is, It's like he's saying "Well Beckett, don't you find my lips... kissable? *mwah mwah mwah*"

[Ink Asylum]

You can also try experimenting with partial outlines. For the shape of an object, trace only the part of the outline that is away from the light and vary the pressure so it's thicker on the far part, growing thinner, until there's nothing on the lighter side.

[Wasson_]

I'm loving LordDon's work.

So I've been sketching out the members of GWAR to finally finish Wasson's request. I made a first attempt at it, featuring the Cuttlefish blasting a Space Marine in the face, but I'm going to try again with more exaggerated versions of the band. Here's a peak...

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture39.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture41.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/Picture40.jpg

I'm beginning to think GWAR used the whole Chaos faction as inspiration.

Shit. I had forgot about this! Those are awesome.

[Hawkzombie]

Man, those are pretty badass, Scaryfaced.

[Blue]

Just started a deviantart page to upload things outside of my comic too. First two I've put up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/blue_opus/crane_wife_1_by_eighty_blue-d3cj47y.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/blue_opus/crane_wife_2_by_eighty_blue-d3cj4hy.jpg

My favorite album of all time is The Crane Wife by The Decemberists and this was an excuse to do some things inspired by it.

Link (http://eighty-blue.deviantart.com/)to the profile for when I put up others.

[Blue]

Did another in the same category:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/blue_opus/crane_wife_3_by_eighty_blue-d3cll5j.jpg

[LordDon]

Awesome use of black and white, Blue.

Finally got the inking done on the pirates. Now to color it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5wQFjIVbK-k/TY--lZcqkuI/AAAAAAAAAv0/wixOmF74hx0/s1600/pirateinks.png

[Scaryfaced]

These are great, Blue. I really love the paper crane one.

[evilgoodwin]

I might just start delving into Blue's world. For the blackmail. So he'll do work for me for free :D

Edit: Mental note: Also blackmail LordDon.

[Blue]

Thanks all!

And Don: I'm so glad to see a pirate update. Was checking this thread near daily for something and I wasn't disappointed. Looks awesome! Now get to colorin'!

[Blue]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/blue_opus/three__s_company_by_eighty_blue-d3cnn25.jpg

[LordDon]

Hahahahaha Awesome!

[Joshkdmw]

Man, I loled. Awesome stuff, Blue.

[Blue]

Quick question for people who use Photoshop: I'm teaching myself how to use PS to paint/draw/etc. and I'm running into a problem that I can't figure out. When drawing, say, a cartoon and I get all of the shading down and try to outline it in black, no matter what brush I try, the lines aren't smooth. They always look jagged and like they've been clearly drawn on a computer.

Any idea what brush I should hunt down or what settings I should use to get something smoother and more clean? I'd like to have a good solid outline to some of the art and it's just not happening.

[marracash]

very interesting things !

[LordDon]

Quick question for people who use Photoshop: I'm teaching myself how to use PS to paint/draw/etc. and I'm running into a problem that I can't figure out. When drawing, say, a cartoon and I get all of the shading down and try to outline it in black, no matter what brush I try, the lines aren't smooth. They always look jagged and like they've been clearly drawn on a computer.

Any idea what brush I should hunt down or what settings I should use to get something smoother and more clean? I'd like to have a good solid outline to some of the art and it's just not happening.

Sounds like you don't have the anti-alias option turned on. If you're using CS2-3-or4 they usually stick the settings for the brush you're using up top.

[Blue]

Thanks Don, I'll have to give that a look when I get home. I'm almost hoping it's not something as simple as that (though it most likely is, knowing me).

[Bone]

That sounds like it. The brush has a checkmark option for anti-aliasing. Other things to check are the overall image size you're drawing on, as well as the image mode you selected when you created the new image (for example, Indexed image mode works from a small palette of colors and doesn't do anti-aliasing for you).

[Ink Asylum]

Drew this up today for fun, and to try out some new markers I got.

http://www.inkasylum.com/storage/post-images/ChellPotados.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=130448 5704422

[Bone]

That's awesome! If I had to nitpick, her left boob has some perspective/proportion issues compared to the other. It stands out to me because the rest of the perspectives, proportions and foreshortening are done very very well in this piece.

[Ink Asylum]

I see what you mean. I might go into Photoshop and touch it up if I have some free time.

[Ink Asylum]

I've been drawing Chell from Portal 2 a lot this past week for my sketchblog. (http://www.inkasylum.com/sketchblog/) I eventually plan to do drawings of her using a variety of abilities/items and work them into a larger piece.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkt8yaAS6z1qage9zo1_500.png
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkv1zyHFYC1qage9zo1_500.png
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkwzfuk2gA1qage9zo1_500.png

I'm curious if anyone can guess what I'm working on.

[Badger]

I'm curious if anyone can guess what I'm working on.

A Where's Wally/Waldo style pic with a thousand Chell's and one companion cube :D

[Ink Asylum]

If only I had the free time for that. :D

[LordDon]

Goddamn I love your stuff, Ink.

[Ink Asylum]

Thanks! :D I've been keeping track of what I do everyday using Joes Goals (http://www.joesgoals.com/) and along with maintaining a sketchblog it's helped push me to draw every day. I can already see results in the speed/efficiency of my drawing over just a few weeks.

[Joshkdmw]

I see what you mean. I might go into Photoshop and touch it up if I have some free time.

Yeah, better go in and touch up that boob.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/536.png

[Bandango]

Great thread. I didn't know we had so many talented artists here.

[Scaryfaced]

Ink's stuff is incredible. Seriously, that's some pro level work right there.

For the first time in my life, I've been rather prolific in my drawing habits. Quite ironic, seeing as I hardly ever drew for fun while getting my Art degree. So I have almost two full sketch books worth of new drawings, all character studies, almost all 40k inspired. I should really branch out, but inspiration can't be controlled

Unfortunately, I fucking hate the slow process of scanning my stuff or taking shitty web cam pics. BUT! If I get drunk enough tonight, I might just do it anyway. So when that happens, prepare yourselves for an epic pic dump.

[Bone]

I have this weird block right now. I used to draw all the time. Now I have 3 or 4 nice sketchbooks and I'm afraid to ruin their pristine white pages with crap. I need to just remember sketchbooks are cheap and draw the crap out of them!!

[Scaryfaced]

So after finishing all of my finals tonight, I finally sat down and scanned a good 50 or so drawings. That's the good news. The bad news is the scanner decided to chose its own focus point, instead of scanning the full page, so I have about 15 usable ones and dozens of jpegs of the small bit of the scanner that wasn't covered by my sketch books. I fuckin love technology!

So I uploaded a couple of them to Deviant Art and here's the hand full that don't look like complete shit...

Looks like Deviant Art doesn't link correctly. Sweet, more trouble posting these stupid drawings! So I guess it's time to crawl back to photobucket.

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0054.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0016.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0019.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0022.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0027.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0043.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0044.jpg
http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn428/Scaryfaced/scan0046.jpg

[Ink Asylum]

Nice work! Very detailed.

[Ink Asylum]

Working on some costume concepts for a sci-fi comic set on a moon base. I'm partial towards the boots/pants of 1, but I'm not digging the shirt. Comments appreciated!
http://www.inkasylum.com/storage/post-images/Costume%20Template.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION= 1307690358678

[Hawkzombie]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Star_Trek_Wrath_of_Khan_uniforms.jpg

You're welcome :p

[tortiekat]

Pants from 1 with top from 3 may mesh well. Though I must admit, I really like the 4th option.

[Ink Asylum]

I may use the jacket from 4 for characters that are doing more science or medical related work.

[Ink Asylum]

http://www.inkasylum.com/storage/Costume%20Template2.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION =1307774621888

Refined the original designs into four basic outfits.

[Ink Asylum]

Spent a few hours today working on this. :) It won't make much sense unless you listen to the Nerdist podcast.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lotjq7bmEF1qage9zo1_r1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKe yId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1311571014&Signature=Xz%2BKsmFfdDNI%2FPR1Tc4zDVFWJQo%3D

[Joshkdmw]

I tried doing something with watercolours for the first time, maybe you recognize him...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/jensen-watercolour.jpg

Based off of this image:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/joshkdmw/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-12.jpg

The fine details are a bit beyond me yet, but I'm okay with the way he turned out. The only thing that bothers me is that I made his neckline concave instead of convex.

[Krispy]

Cool.

.
.
.
.
.
.
.

[JayVe]

I've been doing as bit of daily sketch exercise.

Some of them I sketch on the 3DS...
http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/SGeJ22wBSQprBVoXWRdtMAqmqoHoAI9AADHSEJKE7zF1nCWsNO goJEyv9yrF/cityf000.bmp.converted.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/flying-city)

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/Gs2mRtvCMrfhBOK3QpJXVJ0Kkbv2ikjlKSV11lM4gQX82aEleP ybLUCQlPNr/OrcDude.png
(http://kamalot.posterous.com/orc-dude)


Other times I sketch on my ereader.
http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/nORViRaCKVnjVBjNz3WuHIoDCULSl8ZKmGsdsoDzNL4TKBXXT7 x3lMK8W2zj/farm.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/farm-61277)

And yet other times I simply use paper.
http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/LDdxboAwiSdZ8JU9g7FaUX1HT99fZkLGenwFW675VonvobPnzI 6bsZkKywEm/CIMG0056_M_J.jpg.scaled.1000.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/chuchu)

It isn't professional, polished, or even clean. I try and do it as a daily exercise... like working out. So my sketches are kinda like my imagination in sweatpants.

Been putting things up on a new blog (http://kamalot.posterous.com/). Trying to do it every day. We'll see how long it lasts.

[Bone]

Cool sketchings- rooster scene is my favorite actually. What app on the 3DS are you using for that first one?

[JayVe]

I'm using an app called Inchworm Animation. It is actually damn cool. In addition to having excellent illustration and coloring tools, it also makes Flash animations.

Here is a little animation test I put together (http://www.inchwormanimation.com/studio/kamalot/movies/?message=movie%20uploaded!#1305).

[Bone]

Dude!! That animation is pretty damn expressive. Nice.

[JayVe]

Dude!! That animation is pretty damn expressive. Nice.

Thanks!

I'l admit, I dunno what I am doing. I cut my animation teeth with Flipnote Studio.

[Bone]

You have a knack that is hard to teach. Just the little motions of the dude's head, when he gets startled for a sec (and the startled lines coming from his head) are timed really well. Keep at it.

[JayVe]

Some recent sketches from the 3DS...

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/EHh31dlQbPVwQZdsFNgbfmvI7XgxKE3bR2214VWUhKjSFKWNB8 RGYuq84Fcx/raque001.bmp.converted.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/raque)http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/rWjT61zp0ga2iw7Q2xLMwshEa3pG026jGiiQW4aLOcc6BwCLWA gdVy70kK3B/sherm001.bmp.converted.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/sherman)

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/Hair.png (http://kamalot.posterous.com/hair)

[yeti]

I've been pissing about on with this for far too long! I rushed the colours in the end because I got bored. I'm not even much of a Voyager fan! :/
http://s3.amazonaws.com/imgly_production/2177658/original.jpg

[Entropy]

That's really good Yeti!

[JayVe]

That is super!

But what is Neelix doing between Janeway's legs?

[JayVe]

Another from the 3DS and Inchworm Animation

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/840B1oXtsa5HQAFj5MYEoSkEUe2UWfRk6JE4Jj7MHoBqS1ism0 ZO3ngJO6VW/desot000.bmp.converted.jpg

[Joshkdmw]

That is super!

But what is Neelix doing between Janeway's legs?

Living the dream.

[JayVe]

Here's some draft ideas for a company mascot.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/Mousecot.png
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa55/goodavatar/MousecotEnvelope.png

[JayVe]

I heard the recent news about Mechwarrior, and drew this on the DS.

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/kamalot/HWnGNVtBNvdGpzEeHzZlfS97SzVseggm9oS59q11LSWCYfHEQ7 yfHTbEQZob/warha003.bmp.converted.jpg (http://kamalot.posterous.com/warhammer)

[nabokovfan87]

I need someone who can do some artwork to contact me ASAP. I am working on something for IGC 5 year anniv. Please email me if you are available. email: nabokovfan87@gmail.com

Thanks,
-nabokovfan87

[kyrieee]

Is it possible to go from being absolutely worthless at drawing to pretty decent? I've wanted to learn how to draw for a long time but I always give up. I'm like a blind person, I see that stuff looks wrong but I couldn't correct it if my life depended on it, it's like stuttering. Recently I've been trying to learn how to do some simple pixel art for a game and I don't know how people do it.

[Ink Asylum]

Few people start with something above a worthless level of drawing talent. It may be harder to learn as an adult than as a kid/teenager, but it's entirely possible.

Don't get frustrated with what comes out wrong. Take real classes about the fundamentals of drawing instead of just copying artists you see. Draw every day, for at least an hour.

[yeti]

I had a bit of a piss about this morning whilst my 9 month old was having a nap. I like it but I maybe overdid the dirt/scratches a bit as it's too dark imo! Oh well! :)

http://commdesign.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/captain-cthulu.jpg

[Hawkzombie]

I totally love it.