Neverwinter Nights on GoG [Archive]

LarsenNET

10-27-2010, 07:07 AM

Neverwinter Nights Diamond Edition (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/neverwinter_nights_diamond_edition) is now on GoG DRM free.

The Diamond Edition includes the original Neverwinter Nights and three official expansion packs: Shadows of Undrentide, Hordes of the Underdark and Kingmaker.

rein

10-27-2010, 07:14 AM

GoG seems to really have it together with their additions lately. No wonder they wanted to stir up a little hype and relaunch.

SilentScreams

10-27-2010, 07:30 AM

I have it all boxed somewhere, but I'm tempted just so I can ditch the discs. It'd be a shame though. NWN was probably one of the last games I bought that had a really nice box and a proper sized manual.

Sandman

10-27-2010, 07:46 AM

jpublic

10-27-2010, 08:24 AM

LarsenNET

10-27-2010, 08:27 AM

I'd actually prefer to see NWNII with all the expansions, as I never got around to playing NWN2 after the initial release was so craptacular. I've played NWN1 and expansions (and several modules) to death.

I agree, NWNII was supposed to be on Steam but it must have fell through. I have a feeling it's too new to be on GoG.

SilentScreams

10-27-2010, 08:31 AM

I bit. If nothing else, it'll be fun to go and get my ass handed to me in the Underdark once more.

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 08:43 AM

I've still got my NWN 1 persistent worlds in storage if there's interest in CoG'ers playing in it.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 08:51 AM

I'd actually prefer to see NWNII with all the expansions, as I never got around to playing NWN2 after the initial release was so craptacular. I've played NWN1 and expansions (and several modules) to death.

I always felt NWNII was the better game by far. It's a shame the modders never got their act together.

BigJonno

10-27-2010, 08:52 AM

Thanks to the NWN2 CE CE, I have all of NWN on one DVD, so I'm not fussed about this one.

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:07 AM

I always felt NWNII was the better game by far. It's a shame the modders never got their act together.
Creating for NWN 2 is extremely difficult and the modding toolset is akin to shoving iron nails into your piss hole.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 09:09 AM

Creating for NWN 2 is extremely difficult and the modding toolset is akin to shoving iron nails into your piss hole.

Bitch bitch bitch. It's a more powerful toolset, and you have to put a bit more work in than slapping down tiles. I don't buy it. ;)

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:11 AM

Bitch bitch bitch. It's a more powerful toolset, and you have to put a bit more work than slapping down tiles. I don't buy it. ;)
Having worked with NWN 1 modules for nearly 5 years and submitted multiple iterations of Creature AI to Bioware, I'm fairly sure I know what I'm talking about. The investment of time a modder has to spend learning & using the NWN2 toolset does not pay off in equable content. This isn't even mentioning the silly module restrictions that NWN 2 has versus NWN 1.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 09:12 AM

Having worked with NWN 1 modules for nearly 5 years and submitted multiple iterations of Creature AI to Bioware, I'm fairly sure I know what I'm talking about. The investment of time a modder has to spend learning & using the NWN2 toolset does not pay off in equable content. This isn't even mentioning the silly module restrictions that NWN 2 has versus NWN 1.

I believe you know what you're talking about when it comes to NWN 1.

edit: My original post wasn't fair to NWN2 modders. I did some googling around, and it does seem like they're putting out some good work, consistent bitching from NWN modders notwithstanding.

Sandman

10-27-2010, 09:15 AM

I'm definitely interested Voodoo. I had some fun with the NWN1 online stuff back in the day.

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:20 AM

I believe you know what you're talking about when it comes to NWN 1.

edit: My original post wasn't fair to NWN2 modders. I did some googling around, and it does seem like they're putting out some good work, consistent bitching from NWN modders notwithstanding.
So you are dismissive about the opinion of the NWN 2 modding tools from the people that worked with NWN 1 tools for years? Many of us tried the tools but when we found out about the module restrictions in place, the end result did not equal the time investment requirement. There are a few, some, that did continue on because alternative choices are not present. For the majority, most, we either continued with NWN 1 module development or are waiting for Torchlight 2.

Your original question...
I always felt NWNII was the better game by far. It's a shame the modders never got their act together.
...I feel has been sufficiently answered.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 09:23 AM

So you are dismissive about the opinion of the NWN 2 modding tools from the people that worked with NWN 1 tools for years?

Learning a new tool is hard. As you said, it's more than the NWN community could handle.

LordDon

10-27-2010, 09:25 AM

Panthera

10-27-2010, 09:26 AM

I have this odd relationship with NWN. I've bought it twice intending to run all sorts of DM'ed campaigns but I just never get around to it. Hell, I've only even PLAYED in a DM'ed game once at a NWCON.

What's that like, anyway? I've always heard about that feature (and in Vampire: Redemption before it) but it seems like it would be difficult in such an action-oriented game.

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:29 AM

Learning a new tool is hard. As you said, it's more than the NWN community could handle.
These individuals weren't people to "bitch bitch bitch", give up and simply walk away. There were very large communities that were tied together for years. The vast majority of them had no interest in working with NWN 2 after attempting to work with the toolset for months. It wasn't a "one time load up and throw your hands up in the air" situation. I have no doubt that the toolset may be very good now after many patches but the majority of us are happy in knowing that Torchlight 2 will be our next output.

BTW, have you seen that toolset? It isn't much "more work than slapping down tiles."

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:32 AM

I'm definitely interested Voodoo. I had some fun with the NWN1 online stuff back in the day.
Cool! All I need is 1 player. :) I'll dig them out of the archive and get the one that is most fun online soon.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 09:35 AM

BTW, have you seen that toolset? It isn't much "more work than slapping down tiles."

Is there a typo here? It seems like you're agreeing with me.

I've played around with the toolsets in both games. Now, as a programmer I'm used to using development tools, and I've experience with a lot of game map editors over the years, but I didn't find NWN2s unusually obtuse.

Voodoo

10-27-2010, 09:53 AM

I was comparing the NWN 2 toolset to Torchlight 2's. Torchlight 2 is a more complex game with a toolset much more similar to NWN 1.

I've given you answers to you question about modders and NWN 2. Why do you dismiss these answers as unsubstantiated?

Panthera

10-27-2010, 10:32 AM

Narradisall

10-27-2010, 10:43 AM

IIntrude

10-27-2010, 10:45 AM

I could never get NVW2 to run really well on my machine, even on my new machine it struggles. Think it has some engine quirks.

Panthera

10-27-2010, 10:53 AM

I keep meaning to try NWN2.

Huge Forgotten realms and BG/IWD etc fan, but NWN was SO DULL to me. Seriously, mind numbingly dull. I think it took me several years to drag my arse through the initial dull, dull game, and it was completely forgettable.

I've heard great things about the sequel, but the dull first game put me off it.

Did I mention it was dull?

The OC of NWN2 is only slightly better, with some neat stuff like the keep you get to manage later. Took me two years of an and off play to will myself to finish it. If you get the chance, play it until you're bored then skip to the expansions.

SilentScreams

10-27-2010, 10:56 AM

IMO the original campaign is better in NWN2 than NWN, but NWN has the much better expansions.

Narradisall

10-27-2010, 10:58 AM

I will likely give it a try someday. Maybe a dry period next year.

Hawkzombie

10-27-2010, 01:00 PM

I agree, NWNII was supposed to be on Steam but it must have fell through. I have a feeling it's too new to be on GoG.

Well, the game Still Life is on there, and it's newer than NWN2, I think...

Lint of Death

10-27-2010, 01:24 PM

I furiously quit this game after an unexpected autosave deleted my sidekick, Deekin, and I would have lost hours of work to get back to that point. It is kind of tempting to return to, though, at $10 for everything, since there's a lot I haven't experienced.

biosc1

10-27-2010, 02:14 PM

That's an excellent price. My brother and I still play this game.

destoo

10-28-2010, 06:29 AM

Cool! All I need is 1 player. :) I'll dig them out of the archive and get the one that is most fun online soon.

I'd also like to say that I'm in.
We had a regular game from people around the globe (DM was in Sweden, one player in NZ, one in UK and a few of us in america), doing an Ultima revival. It was awesome. Pacing was perfect.

Voodoo

10-28-2010, 06:33 AM

I'd also like to say that I'm in.
We had a regular game from people around the globe (DM was in Sweden, one player in NZ, one in UK and a few of us in america), doing an Ultima revival. It was awesome. Pacing was perfect.
What I built was a persistent world with its own mythology. It'll take me some time (1 to 2 weeks) to bring it back online but I definitely will now.

Dopefish

10-28-2010, 08:56 AM

NWN is one of my favorite games. I've re-bought the game several times--when it first came out, an updated edition later, and the Diamond Edition even later. Now that it's on GOG I will be buying it yet again, probably several copies for friends and family.

I would also like to see NWN2 released on GOG but I seem to recall reading something before about licensing issues and the way addon modules authenticate through Atari's service.

roboninja

10-28-2010, 10:39 AM

Damnit GOG. Just release Baldur's Gate II already. Quit tip toeing around it and just fucking release it. Also...quit taking my $9.99. I need that $9.99 for other things...each time you offer a game like this, it deprives me of things like booze and women.

You might want to start paying more for your women, unless you want higher medical bills ;)

Tempted to pick this up, but I just know I will not play it.

Xydarc

10-28-2010, 12:22 PM

Damnit GOG. Just release Baldur's Gate II already. Quit tip toeing around it and just fucking release it. Also...quit taking my $9.99. I need that $9.99 for other things...each time you offer a game like this, it deprives me of things like booze and women.
If women are 9.99 where you are from, you may want to hit that free clinic first.;)

I'll have to give up a couple fast food trips, but this is a definite purchase for me. I've never played a DM'd campaign before, so I'm definitely interested.

J Arcane

10-28-2010, 12:34 PM

Hordes of the Underdark is the coolest expansion ever released for any game ever. So fucking much fun it hurts.

Even if you hate the OC, and SoU, you should still grab this for the $10, download a chargen module from the NWVault, and run through HotU with a lvl20 character.

Also, I would also be curious about Voodoo's PW. It would give me something to scratch my MMO itch while on my netbook, something WoW can apparently no longer do now that 4.0 is out and it runs like shit on my netbook.

resikel

10-28-2010, 12:39 PM

If women are 9.99 where you are from, you may want to hit that free clinic first.;)

http://www.meh.ro/original/2010_02/meh.ro3427.jpg

Panthera

10-28-2010, 01:28 PM

What's the problem? Haven't you guys ever heard of condoms and paper bags?

Acidpoptart

10-28-2010, 02:17 PM

What's the problem? Haven't you guys ever heard of condoms and paper bags?

I just made a face that resembles your avatar.

roboninja

10-28-2010, 02:34 PM

I just made a face that resembles your avatar.

I just said something crazy that sounds like it came from your avatar.

MagGnome

10-28-2010, 05:41 PM

I totally called this in an earlier thread!

I agree, NWNII was supposed to be on Steam but it must have fell through. I have a feeling it's too new to be on GoG.

There are games on GOG that only came out a couple of years ago, so NWN2 isn't too new for the service.

What's the problem? Haven't you guys ever heard of condoms and paper bags?

I really hope you have higher standards than that. :p

I'm somewhat tempted to grab this down the road and try the Hordes of the Underdark Expansion. The original campaign is extremely dull.

Panthera

10-28-2010, 06:50 PM

Shadows of Undrentide is surprisingly great, too - Deekin is the best companion ever.

Savok

10-28-2010, 07:02 PM

Undrentide was fantastic, it even made use of all the class abilities usually ignored like tracking and talking to animals (not just talking animals when you needed one).

Hordes was some of the worst fanfiction I've ever had the misfortune of coming across. Didn't think they could do worse then the OC but there we were.

J Arcane

10-28-2010, 07:10 PM

Shadows of Undrentide is surprisingly great, too - Deekin is the best companion ever.
Deekin was great, but the rest of the campaign was broken, buggy, and poorly designed, with the worst difficulty curve I've ever seen in a game.

HotU was just pure gonzo fun. Anyone who can't appreciate some epic-level hack and slashing through waves of Beholders and Drow is a heathen who takes their shit way too fucking seriously.

Panthera

10-28-2010, 07:18 PM

Yeah, the story was silly but the gameplay more than made up for it. Unlike, say, the OC.

I have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to difficulty in Shadows.

destoo

10-29-2010, 07:41 AM

Should we form a group in NWConnections? (is that possible?)

Voodoo

10-29-2010, 07:42 AM

Should we form a group in NWConnections? (is that possible?)
Sure! But, I don't really think we need to. We could easily just use the Matchmaking forum here?

Bad Buddha

10-29-2010, 12:00 PM

I think I would have liked NWN2 better if only the mod community had stepped up to the plate.

Xydarc

10-29-2010, 04:44 PM

Sure! But, I don't really think we need to. We could easily just use the Matchmaking forum here?
I agree. Let's keep it simple and use the Matchmaking forum. I think I'll install and give it a whirl. I haven't played NWN for a few years now. I'm really looking forward to your persistent world Voodoo.

destoo

10-30-2010, 05:31 AM

The advantages I can see in using NWConnections is to sync timezones, add on packs, and manage large groups for campaigns.
We don't need it for a PW.

Voodoo

10-30-2010, 01:55 PM

I found my favorite of the 4 persistent worlds I built. I'll need two beta testers that can play together if possible. :)

Here are 2 of the PW's original listings at NWVault...

Midgard v1 - http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Gameworld.Detail&id=361

Midgard v2 - http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Gameworld.Detail&id=360

V2 is a lot larger than V1 while V1 is a more raw build.

jpublic

10-30-2010, 04:09 PM

How do the persistent worlds work? I only ever played modules, so I'm in the dark on the mechanics of those.

Voodoo

11-02-2010, 09:04 AM

Alright - Let's do it.

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?p=688822#post688822

LongStepMantis

11-17-2010, 09:54 PM

Just finished one of the best modules for NWN I've yet to play. Partially because Ravenloft never gets enough attention for my liking. If you have either the diamond or platinum versions (mod requires both expansions, does not require the CEP) you won't be disappointed.

Ravenloft - Beyond the Gate (http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=modules.detail&id=3990)

No hakpaks or anything else required. Just grab the module file and enjoy. I could go on and on about all the cool features and inventive systems it uses, but trust me, it's well worth it.