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quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 12:41 PM
Judging by my Friends list, this is a resounding yes.

pomeroy
11-02-2008, 12:43 PM
Judging by my Friends list, this is a resounding yes.

Just wait until Gears.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 12:46 PM
Just wait until Gears.

Unless multiplayer is that good, I think many are going to be disappointed by Gears.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 12:48 PM
We aren't even through November yet, WTF :p

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20081031.jpg

Camel
11-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Right now it is!

pomeroy
11-02-2008, 12:50 PM
Unless multiplayer is that good, I think many are going to be disappointed by Gears.

Multiplayer will be that good, but I was more talking about judging by friendslist.

Tayaya
11-02-2008, 12:50 PM
I don't think Fallout 3 is GotY. I think it's a great game and it's got an awesome story and an incredible world to explore, but it doesn't break any real new ground and the Oblivion-like gameplay will turn off a lot of folks.

Not sure what would get my vote for GotY yet, but as much as I was looking forward to Fallout and as much as I'm loving every second of it, i don't think it's Game of the Year material.

Squidbot
11-02-2008, 12:52 PM
L to the B to the P.

jeffbax
11-02-2008, 12:53 PM
Tough call, its up there so far.

I expect a lot of contention between Resistance 2, Fallout 3, Little Big Planet, Mirror's Edge, and Gears 2.

Troggles
11-02-2008, 12:59 PM
I don't think you can say any game is GotY on November 2nd. The competition has yet to come out.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 01:00 PM
Tough call, its up there so far.

I expect a lot of contention between Resistance 2, Fallout 3, Little Big Planet, Mirror's Edge, and Gears 2.

Pffft. You didn't even list the Game of the Century :p

Adam Blue
11-02-2008, 01:01 PM
We aren't even through November yet, WTF :p

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20081031.jpg

They are amazing.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 01:06 PM
They are amazing.

And I would love to see how wrong they were once this month is played out.

Rogue_hunter
11-02-2008, 01:07 PM
Too early to call. Can't we hold off on these things until the end of the year?

Inspector Fowler
11-02-2008, 01:08 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me about Fallout? Is the actual gameplay skill based or stats based?

As in, when you point the crosshairs at somebody and pull the trigger, does the bullet go where it's supposed to, or is a "hit" or "miss" determined by numbers?

I've seen the whole "pause the game and aim at something" bit, but how does that work without removing your own skill from the game and using your character's stats instead?

The reviews I've read seem to assume that I already know how this works, and I don't.

pomeroy
11-02-2008, 01:08 PM
Too early to call. Can't we hold off on these things until the end of the year?

You'd think.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 01:09 PM
You'd think.

That's no fun at all.

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 01:11 PM
I'll pick my Game of the Year when it is appropriate to do so.
And I would love to see how wrong they were once this month is played out.
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Nameless
11-02-2008, 01:13 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me about Fallout? Is the actual gameplay skill based or stats based?

As in, when you point the crosshairs at somebody and pull the trigger, does the bullet go where it's supposed to, or is a "hit" or "miss" determined by numbers?

I've seen the whole "pause the game and aim at something" bit, but how does that work without removing your own skill from the game and using your character's stats instead?

The reviews I've read seem to assume that I already know how this works, and I don't.

It's stats based. If you point and shoot at something and you're accurate, you'll probably hit, but you've got a better chance with higher skills, and your shots do more damage as well. Also, the "Pause the game" system (VATS), is pretty much the standard way to play the game. I only ever shoot without it when I don't have enough Action Points to use it.

I think it's quite doable to play the game without VATS, but it would be more difficult.

Psykoboy2
11-02-2008, 01:18 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 01:19 PM
Can somebody answer a question for me about Fallout? Is the actual gameplay skill based or stats based?

As in, when you point the crosshairs at somebody and pull the trigger, does the bullet go where it's supposed to, or is a "hit" or "miss" determined by numbers?

I've seen the whole "pause the game and aim at something" bit, but how does that work without removing your own skill from the game and using your character's stats instead?

The reviews I've read seem to assume that I already know how this works, and I don't.
Your stats factor in to every shot you take. When you shoot, the game rolls a die for an imaginary "Accuracy Test." If you pass that test, you hit. If you don't pass that test, you miss. Skill plays a role because you still have to aim. If you aren't even aiming at the enemy, it doesn't matter if you pass the accuracy test.

V.A.T.S. pauses the action for a bit and allows you to target individual body parts. Your stats factor in to every shot you take, as I've already stated, so using V.A.T.S. does not radically change the combat in Fallout 3. It does, however, give your character a massive boost to critical hits, which is why you only have a limited amount of Ability Points to spend in V.A.T.S. each time. After that, you can fire a few real-time shots to finish off your target, or you can hide behind a rock to let your AP recharge.

Nameless
11-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

That's a good point. I need a refresher on the games of 2008 before I can vote. Hey, I just had an idea. Maybe I'll wait until the year is done!

Fallout 3 is the best game I've played so far this year, though.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 01:22 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

No Burnout?

Inspector Fowler
11-02-2008, 01:51 PM
Variable Gear - thanks for your excellent reply.

Unfortunately, it just means that I'll never play the game. Not a knock against it! Not at all. But I prefer games with less of an RPG element in the pure combat. I don't mind if you allow me to learn skills that let me reload faster, etc. But given that aiming and shooting are the two skills I actually do control, I get frustrated when games alter that.

A good example is games where the crosshairs show a certain point of aim but there is a bullet "spread", even within a very reasonable distance for the weapon in question. This is used often to show "recoil" and make it seem reasonable that even though I'm pointing at something, I may miss. That's not how guns operate. A gun will fire where you aim it, every time. If you want to illustrate recoil, make the actual gun (and thus, my point of aim) move up/around as I fire, so that I'm fighting to bring the weapon back on target, and not wondering why I'm missing.

I kind of figured this is what was happening. A friend of mine was trying to insist that it was purely player skill, but I just couldn't imagine that.

Dukefrukem
11-02-2008, 01:58 PM
L to the B to the P.

yup .

Gorvi
11-02-2008, 02:03 PM
The thread title spelled LittleBigPlanet wrong. Odd.

SilentScreams
11-02-2008, 02:03 PM
It is for me...so far.
Fallout 1 & 2 fans look away now.
I'm actually enjoying it a whole lot more than either of the first two.

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Baron and I have decided to make a gentleman's agreement about the GOTY, so I think it's time to reveal my choice. It's Left 4 Dead.
Variable Gear - thanks for your excellent reply.
No problem.

johnperkins21
11-02-2008, 03:02 PM
It's the best game I've played all year, and I don't see anything really coming all that close to it.

Wolvie
11-02-2008, 03:14 PM
Once again I find myself in a position where I can't vote. First it was the "Fable 2 or Fallout 3" poll, which I still can't vote because I haven't played enough to get a feel for Fallout 3 yet.

This on the other hand is a simple matter of the year isn't over yet, and there are still great games to play. For me there is one more game: Left 4 Dead. And that game might just take the GOTY in my book.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 03:31 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

From what I heard from people who played them, neither are GOTY material. There is also Mario Kart and SSBB, but both are kind of rehashy to be called GOTY.

Blue
11-02-2008, 03:35 PM
Left 4 Dead isn't out yet and I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to take my GotY so as of yet it's too early to tell. Fallout 3 is good but I'm not yet seeing it as that high up.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Once again I find myself in a position where I can't vote. First it was the "Fable 2 or Fallout 3" poll, which I still can't vote because I haven't played enough to get a feel for Fallout 3 yet.

This on the other hand is a simple matter of the year isn't over yet, and there are still great games to play. For me there is one more game: Left 4 Dead. And that game might just take the GOTY in my book.

I want to check out the full game of Mirror's Edge. That demo really impressed me last night, and if the game has a good eight hours in it, and as much replay value as the demo has, then it could easily overtake Fable 2 for me. I'd hate to give an EA game GOTY, but if they deserve it, they deserve it.

slhunter
11-02-2008, 03:52 PM
I absolutely think that Fallout 3 could very well be game of the year... We'll have to wait and see how great Gears of War 2 and Left 4 Dead are, but Fallout 3 is freaking amazing!

Xydarc
11-02-2008, 03:53 PM
The thread title spelled LittleBigPlanet wrong. Odd.
The truth has been spoken.:cool:

jeffbax
11-02-2008, 03:56 PM
Pffft. You didn't even list the Game of the Century :p

Whats that?

I did totally forget MGS4, GTA4, Left4Dead. eep.

H.Bogard
11-02-2008, 03:59 PM
Dead Space, bitches.

cp#
11-02-2008, 04:07 PM
CoD4 (Yes 4)
MGS4
(not) GTA4
Resistance 2
Gears of War 2
Fallout 3
Dead Space
Far Cry 2
WoW WotLK
Left 4 Dead

..and that is just off the top of my head. It's hard to pick just one of those games and call it the "best." If L4D is as fun as I hope then it will probably be my pick

Tayaya
11-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Too early to call. Can't we hold off on these things until the end of the year?

Oh I don't know. When God of War hit the Playstation 2, I think it was still first quarter.... yeah.. March of 2005. When I was about halfway through and my co-workers were asking me if it was any good, I said "I think it'll be Game of the Year from at least 1 or 2 publications this year." No one believed me since the year had 9 months left in it, but when all was said and done it certainly did take home that honor.

Sometimes you can just tell. When a game is well-crafted in the controls and gameplay department, has a great story, amazingly composed soundtrack, and raises the bar of what you thought your hardware was capable of doing, it pretty much becomes a contender for GotY.

I think Dead Space has more of a chance at being GotY material than Fallout 3. Granted I think overall Fallout is a better game, and the amount of enjoyment I'll get out of it in the long run is greater than the amount I did with Dead Space, but when all is said and done, Dead Space is a much more mainstream-accessible title, and has the production values I felt with God of War. It's an incredible ride more than it is an epic game, and it seems like the incredible ride type of games tend to win these types of awards. MGS4 or Dead Space are the ones I think have the best shot.

Iron Past
11-02-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't think Fallout 3 is GotY. I think it's a great game and it's got an awesome story and an incredible world to explore, but it doesn't break any real new ground and the Oblivion-like gameplay will turn off a lot of folks.

Not sure what would get my vote for GotY yet, but as much as I was looking forward to Fallout and as much as I'm loving every second of it, i don't think it's Game of the Year material.

My sentiments exactly. It's strange when I see a very good, very technically acomplished title that I'm enjoying and still think it's not GoTY material, but here we are. For me, one of the ways I judge is I look at my collection at the end of the year and think what I still get excited to play, and Fallout 3 won't be on that list.

Lance Uppercut
11-02-2008, 04:40 PM
It's far too early to say. There've been quite a few good titles before it, and more potentially good titles later this year.

The dark horse for GOTY in my opinion? Left 4 Dead.

SilentScreams
11-02-2008, 04:42 PM
L4D isn't out yet. How are so many people already convinced it's a GotY contender?

carnage11
11-02-2008, 04:42 PM
I dunno, I forgot about GTA4. That's up there for me too. It's definitly between Fallout 3 and GTA4 for me. I will know better once I finish Fallout 3.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 05:02 PM
L4D isn't out yet. How are so many people already convinced it's a GotY contender?

Well, I'd say a lot of us enjoy multiplayer action games, and there are really only two up for grabs: Left4Dead and Gears of War 2. I don't really expect GoW2 to wow me; I'm expecting more of the same that the first delivered. From L4D I'm expecting something entirely new, and new things should be given preference when considering GOTY, IMO.

Wolvie
11-02-2008, 05:05 PM
I want to check out the full game of Mirror's Edge. That demo really impressed me last night, and if the game has a good eight hours in it, and as much replay value as the demo has, then it could easily overtake Fable 2 for me. I'd hate to give an EA game GOTY, but if they deserve it, they deserve it.

Yeah all the demo videos I saw were impressive... I so need to play the actual demo. It could be a great game indeed.

L4D isn't out yet. How are so many people already convinced it's a GotY contender?

Just a hunch. Zombies+Valve= win any day of the week.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Whats that?

I did totally forget MGS4, GTA4, Left4Dead. eep.

I misspoke: Game of the Decade (http://www.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/1424/p/4/title/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV.html).

GTA4 should fail to be GotY. It deserves to be the poster child for how broken our review system has become.

Wolvie
11-02-2008, 05:11 PM
I misspoke: Game of the Decade (http://www.gwn.com/reviews/gamereview.php/id/1424/p/4/title/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV.html).

GTA4 should fail to be GotY. It deserves to be the poster child for how broken our review system has become.

I wouldn't say broken, more like biased. The bigger the brand name, the softer the reviewers are on the game.

Wedge
11-02-2008, 05:18 PM
It's a contender for me. I'm enjoying it alot more than I thought I would.

fitbabits
11-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 05:35 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.

You're not doing it right. It takes 32 shots to kill a radroach :p

DangerousDaze
11-02-2008, 05:38 PM
I don't know how any game as buggy as this can be GotY. I'm sure I'm going to really enjoy it after a patch or two but until then...

JRR006
11-02-2008, 05:51 PM
In the corner of my head where I arrange things like this, MGS4 is beating Fallout 3 for my GOTY, but I haven't played LittleBigPlanet yet.

Seika
11-02-2008, 05:52 PM
L4D isn't out yet. How are so many people already convinced it's a GotY contender?

Yes, that.


I voted no because, while I'm completely loving this game, I still hold Clear Sky as my favorite over the two.

PC GOTY, there's a high probability it will be, but let's just wait and see what happens until the end of the year.

Overall GOTY, probably not, there's too much competition on the consoles for that title.

Wolvie
11-02-2008, 05:57 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.

You must have rolled a weak character. I can kill most humans in few shots. Radroaches die with about three cracks of my bat.

Try re-rolling and making a character focused on gun and melee combat, and you'll see a difference.

Camel
11-02-2008, 06:05 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.
Yet here we are. Fallout 3 has me hooked, and I spent a huge amount of time this weekend playing it. The last game that had me hooked like this, Bioshock, ended up being my GOTY from last year.

Johan
11-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Game of the Year before the year is over always seemed a bit hyperbolic and premature to me. We'll see...

Blue
11-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.

The only things I honestly have to drop that much ammo into are Mirelurks and the occasional Super Mutant (though even them not so much). Are your focuses just more dialogue or science heavy? I have enough in Small Guns to get me by and I'm even dropping some things in 1 or 2 shots. Though again, if I happen upon two Mirelurks I just tail it in the other direction because I know I'm going to get torn apart.

Primus
11-02-2008, 06:25 PM
The only groundbreaking game that has been released this year is LBP, and as of yet it is my GOTY pick.

Games like Fable, GoW2, and Fallout 3 are just existing games with some fluff. They may still be a thoroughly enjoyable experience, but none of them deserve GOTY in my opinion.

carnage11
11-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Yet here we are. Fallout 3 has me hooked, and I spent a huge amount of time this weekend playing it. The last game that had me hooked like this, Bioshock, ended up being my GOTY from last year.

Yeah and people said the same thing about Bioshock. "It's just too early."

Funny, because I seem to remember Bioshock coming out even earlier, like September or something.

Left 4 Dead hasn't even come out and there's so many people that are sure it's going to be GoTY. It does sound like a good idea, but what are the chances it won't turn out like we'd all like and it may very well turn out to be buggy garbage. Or what if it has shitty controls and that just ruins the fun of it entirely?

I do agree that it's too early to make a definite decision, but Fallout 3 is absolutely a contender as far as I'm concerned.

Lint of Death
11-02-2008, 06:36 PM
Team Fortress 2 is my game of the year. I'd like to see Left4Dead come in and try to match the fun I've already had in that game all year.

Blue
11-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Team Fortress 2 is my game of the year. I'd like to see Left4Dead come in and try to match the fun I've already had in that game all year.

Is there a big community for TF2 on consoles or is it mostly PC? I've tried getting into it and have had a really hard time finding decent matches which has mostly turned me off to it (which is a shame given how much praise it gets).

Maybe I'll just comfort myself with the cold love of the undead in a few weeks.

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 06:52 PM
I wouldn't say broken, more like biased. The bigger the brand name, the softer the reviewers are on the game.
It's a broken system, and I'm in agreement with Baron that GTA IV is a perfect example of that.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 07:02 PM
It's a broken system, and I'm in agreement with Baron that GTA IV is a perfect example of that.

GTA4, Game of the Decade, an NPD Top Ten for two whole months.

Disgustipated
11-02-2008, 07:03 PM
Judging by my Friends list, this is a resounding yes.

So when I had 40 people online playing GTA IV on the night/day of release, that made it supersede FO3 as GOTY, right? :rolleyes:

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 07:05 PM
So when I had 40 people online playing GTA IV on the night/day of release, that made it supersede FO3 as GOTY, right? :rolleyes:

Too bad it was for one day. GTA4 - good for a day.

Lance Uppercut
11-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Team Fortress 2 is my game of the year. I'd like to see Left4Dead come in and try to match the fun I've already had in that game all year.

It would be mine as well, but TF2 was released last year.

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Too bad it was for one day. GTA4 - good for a day.
To be honest, a similar thing happened to Brawl. It didn't take long for disappointment to set in.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 07:56 PM
I wouldn't say broken, more like biased. The bigger the brand name, the softer the reviewers are on the game.

See: Fallout 3.

Primus
11-02-2008, 08:02 PM
To be honest, a similar thing happened to Brawl. It didn't take long for disappointment to set in.

Brawl is awesome, online modes aside.

I think a lot of people expect these high profile games to cure cancer.

Kelegacy
11-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

I'll need to tally all the games of 2008 when it's all said and done. So many that I've probably forgotten.

Funny enough, Alone in the Dark, for all the shit slung at it, is one of my top choices for 2008. I really dug that game.

But as of right now, Fallout 3 is probably going to get the nod. Still have Banjo Kazooie, L4D, GoW2, so we'll see. GTA4 was a good deal of fun too.

All in all, a decent year. Wish the games were a bit more spread out though.

Heretic Machine
11-02-2008, 08:06 PM
Brawl is awesome, online modes aside.

I think a lot of people expect these high profile games to cure cancer.

I agree that Brawl is awesome, besides the online play... which is one of the biggest features that the game offered to fans of the franchise. I would never nominate it for game of the year, though I love it. It simply doesn't offer enough improvements over Melee to be considered. I appreciate it's larger cast, better balance, and I absolutely love it's ginormous soundtrack, but it's not GOTY.

Still one of the best games you could buy today.

Disgustipated
11-02-2008, 08:07 PM
Too bad it was for one day. GTA4 - good for a day.

Except... it was more like a week. Kinda like how Gears of War 2 is going to have a shitload playing it. Guess that's the next GOTY, right? :p

Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Brawl is awesome, online modes aside.

I think a lot of people expect these high profile games to cure cancer.
I think most people in our group expect some progression in their franchise installments. When, instead, we are sold a product that does not live up to the pedigree of it's ancestors, it deserves to be ripped for the waste of resources that it was. I'm ok with franchises, I really am, but I don't like when things are downgraded to the point that it's more wise to play Melee than Brawl.

SilentScreams
11-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Any game that features combat which required 22 shots to kill a rat cannot be considered as GotY.

You must be doing something horribly wrong.
I can drop a Super Mutant Brute in 4 shots at level 7. What weapon are you using? I use the hunting rifle, and I take most things down without having to reload (5 bullet clip).
The only things that have caused me problems so far are Mirelurks, and that's only if I can't get a clean shot at the face. I usually resort to frag mines for those.

bean
11-02-2008, 09:06 PM
So far it is for me, though I'd also nominate Fable 2, Warhammer Online, and Tales of Vesparia. It's another truly amazing holiday season.

I see a lot of people are mentioning LBP. I'm looking forward to trying this first hand at a friend's house when it comes out. Hopefully, it will be as great as the hype. I think CoD 5 also has a chance of being a nominee. Gears and Resistance are both "popcorn" games that will be fun but probably won't have the multiplayer that sometimes elevates a popcorn game from simply making a shit-ton of money to being GotY worthy. GTA 4 and Saint's Row 2 are the only non-holiday games I think have a shot. Super Smash Bros. Brawl will get nominated by every game company to throw Wii fans a bone, but it won't win.

archon
11-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Mirror's Edge is also a potential nominee. Fallout 3 has some pretty stiff competition.

Hyperglide
11-02-2008, 09:51 PM
[thread derail]I think Grid will win racing game of the year... [/end thread derail]

I think Fallout 3 is GOTY MATERIAL. I personally would give it the vote for GOTY. I haven't played any of the other contenders other that GTA IV and Rock Band 2.

I just think Fallout 3 is one of those gems that comes by every 5 years, and you MUST experience.

quidmonkey
11-02-2008, 10:09 PM
Brawl is awesome, online modes aside.

I agree that Brawl is awesome, besides the online play... which is one of the biggest features that the game offered to fans of the franchise. I would never nominate it for game of the year, though I love it. It simply doesn't offer enough improvements over Melee to be considered. I appreciate it's larger cast, better balance, and I absolutely love it's ginormous soundtrack, but it's not GOTY.

Still one of the best games you could buy today.

Brawl is good, not great. Some things Melee does better. Neither is good as a single player experience.

You two should join us over in the Matchmaking Square (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=555&page=6).

cawblen
11-02-2008, 10:12 PM
if i had to vote for GotY right now it would probably be MGS4. Ask this question again in January!

Jeffool
11-03-2008, 01:24 AM
I've spent time in Fallout 3 and just started Fable 2, and while I like them both...I want to check out the full game of Mirror's Edge. That demo really impressed me last night, and if the game has a good eight hours in it, and as much replay value as the demo has, then it could easily overtake Fable 2 for me. I'd hate to give an EA game GOTY, but if they deserve it, they deserve it.Truths have been spoken, ladies and gentlemen. Mirror's Edge isn't getting the love I'd expect after playing the demo. If the game stays as engaging as the short demo was, then it wins for me.I think a lot of people expect these high profile games to cure cancer.I don't, but I do expect the bar to be raised. I expect more from a game made in 2008 than I do from one made in 2003. For all of the love and hate it's gotten, GTA4 is far better than the previous incarnations, Fallout is better than TES games, and Fable 2 is better than the first... But all of these only improve incrementally over their predecessors, and the scores are about the same. I want significant advancement and original IP. I want another Portal, and I think it may be Mirror's Edge.

Wolvie
11-03-2008, 01:34 AM
Well I tried the Mirror's Edge demo tonight, and I wished I hadn't... because I want to buy it now! I'll admit your timing has to be spot in in area's, but it still kicked a metric shit-ton of ass.

Glad I have a Gamefly account.

SilentScreams
11-03-2008, 06:06 AM
A couple of things bug me about Mirror's Edge.
The levels are not at all natural. Nobody designs buildings like that. They're too obviously set up for all the free running acrobatics.
Also the way her legs come into view when she makes a long jump makes it look like she lands on her ass every time.
And the gunplay looks very tacked on.

Jeffool
11-03-2008, 06:14 AM
I can't disagree, in particular about level design being obviously non-realistic. But that's a conceit I can make. (I forget the word, when you go along with something for the sake of not breaking focus?)

And I'll again agree that the gunplay isn't "well developed," though again I think that was a purposeful choice.

But the over-exaggerated feel I get from her arm/leg movement works for me. They could've now showed them, like most games, but I don't think that would work given the nature of the game. So, deciding to show them, there are two ways to do this: warp the field of view drastically, or over-exaggerate the arm/leg movement. I'd much prefer the method they chose than the other, or not seeing them at all.

SilentScreams
11-03-2008, 06:29 AM
The word is concession I think.

And yeah I get what you mean with the animation. I wouldn't like the whole "disembodied head" thing that most first person shooters have going on. I just think the way they've done it with Mirror's Edge looks odd.

Soap
11-03-2008, 12:46 PM
Don't forget that Game Of The Year means....the ENTIRE year. Not just October through December. You've still got contenders like GTA4 & MGS4.

Don't Forget about Saints Row 2!

Cyndair
11-03-2008, 12:50 PM
I'm voting "No" just because I like Little Big Planet better. That doesn't mean, however, that LBP is my game of the year either since the year isn't over yet :D.

Cit Phil Cit
11-04-2008, 10:54 AM
GotY don't crash like stock markets.

SilentScreams
11-04-2008, 03:54 PM
Fallout 3 has never crashed on my far from fully operational PC.

DigitalFirefly
11-04-2008, 04:02 PM
So far for me MGS4 is still my Game of the Year, with Dead Space in second. IMy thoughts may change once I play more of Fable, Fallout, CoD, Gears, Left 4 Dead Resistance, and WoTLK.

Vandabo
11-04-2008, 04:30 PM
If people haven't played Fallout 3 up through the Tranquility Lane quest, they shouldn't write it off.

It has been a long time since I've been as hooked on a game as I am on Fallout 3. It doesn't even run well on my PC, but I don't care. It's fun and interesting, and there hasn't been any gamebreaking issues. Good stuff.

SilentScreams
11-04-2008, 06:14 PM
If people haven't played Fallout 3 up through the Tranquility Lane quest, they shouldn't write it off.

It has been a long time since I've been as hooked on a game as I am on Fallout 3. It doesn't even run well on my PC, but I don't care. It's fun and interesting, and there hasn't been any gamebreaking issues. Good stuff.

I don't think I've sunk this much time into a game since the first Disgaea (I still play that even now).
I'm the kind of person who usually plays a game until the novelty wears off, then goes and plays something else. Not so with Fallout 3.
I'm probably going to play through it a second time and go pure evil too. I think I'll take more skill in speech next time, as it seems to come in handy a lot (or it would if I had more skill in it).

Purple Santa
11-04-2008, 06:43 PM
GOTY = The World Ends With You :p

astranoir
11-04-2008, 06:52 PM
GOTY = The World Ends With You :p

Hehe, that was a great game.

Vandabo
11-04-2008, 06:53 PM
I don't think I've sunk this much time into a game since the first Disgaea (I still play that even now).
I'm the kind of person who usually plays a game until the novelty wears off, then goes and plays something else. Not so with Fallout 3.
I'm probably going to play through it a second time and go pure evil too. I think I'll take more skill in speech next time, as it seems to come in handy a lot (or it would if I had more skill in it).

Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to my second playthrough, which will be as an evil character and on the 360.

Deadend
11-04-2008, 10:24 PM
I don't think Fallout 3 is GOTY material, it is a great game.. but fucking shit if the game does not have some rough spots and horrible animation.

Hotcod
11-05-2008, 01:08 AM
i think what will put this in clear contention or not is mainly how much "meat" there really is to it... once i get finished i'll have a better idea where the game stands. I think the main problem is also one of it's main strengths and that is that it's all the best bits of oblivion... which is wonderful, oblivion was a hell of a game that i loved to death and fallout 3 is easily easily better on every level but it dose beacuse of that have the feeling of "i've kind of done this before" which i think will hold some people back from calling it goty...

I think its an amazing game, easily a classic and should easily be in any ones top 3 of this years games but just not sure if it's goty yet... given that i don't own a 360/ps3 there's not much coming out that can really impact me at this point... even if i did i think the hype for gow2 is overblown some what. It reminds me a bit of halo in that no matter how good or bad it is it will be hailed as the goty by a lot of people simply for the brand... but at least gears has some real base to the overt fanboisium

thomas
11-05-2008, 01:38 AM
N+

GOTY = The World Ends With You :p
Your sig is too long (good game though).

SilentScreams
11-05-2008, 05:18 AM
I don't think Fallout 3 is GOTY material, it is a great game.. but fucking shit if the game does not have some rough spots and horrible animation.

I had a really odd moment last night which reminded me the game was far from perfect. I was clearing out the Jefferson Memorial. It was full of Super Mutants.
I was doing my usual trick of stealthing around with my trusty hunting rifle taking them out with sneak attacks. I kept on shooting them in the back of the head and torso, and every time I killed one in that way their body came flying towards me like it'd just been hit by a car.

I also had one point where I re-entered a room I'd killed 2 of them in a while before, and they were both stood up again. I almost had a heart attack when they also came flying towards me. Thankfully they were dead and fell over the second they hit me...it was just ragdoll physics gone wrong.

tacitus
11-05-2008, 07:23 AM
There are signficant technical issues with Fallout - but this thing is available on all the major "HD" platforms PC, PS3, 360. I personally think that any general GOTY should not be platform exclusive minimaly and preferably as available as possible. Now a platform specific GOTY such as MGS4 might be the PS3 GOTY but to call something THE GOTY when it isn't accessible is ridiculous. Its also ridiculous to call GOTY at this point.

quidmonkey
11-05-2008, 09:13 AM
GOTY = The World Ends With You :p

Will be the portable GotY; but it shouldn't be because it's got technical issues, is on a portable, is on a Nintendo system, is a jRPG, and generally sucks all sorts of ballsacks. Plus it's about gay men looking for clothes.

DeathtollWRX
11-05-2008, 09:21 AM
Maybe not game of the year but.

RPG of the year all consoles + PC
Best Graphics (haven't played Warhead though)
Voice Acting
Best single player experience

Variable Gear
11-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Will be the portable GotY; but it shouldn't be because it's got technical issues, is on a portable, is on a Nintendo system, is a jRPG, and generally sucks all sorts of ballsacks. Plus it's about gay men looking for clothes.
Unsurprisingly, I'm still hoping that TWEWY wins a ton of handheld awards.

Virtual Machine
11-05-2008, 10:41 AM
Game of the Year in my book, and that's all that matters to me.

quidmonkey
11-05-2008, 10:50 AM
Fallout 3 is GotY - the Bible tells me so (John 5:2)

Deadend
11-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Maybe not game of the year but.

RPG of the year all consoles + PC
Best Graphics (haven't played Warhead though)
Voice Acting
Best single player experience

hold on now there...

It sure as hell does not have best graphics. Poor animations and ugly models hold it back.
Voice acting... eh, they are good for some of the characters, but not all of them, it's no Mass Effect.
The SP experince is good, as I very rarely get taken out of it, but I am not sure if it's THE BEST.

Virtual Machine
11-05-2008, 04:38 PM
It's definitely a better game than Mass Effect.

SilentScreams
11-05-2008, 04:43 PM
I don't remember having as much fun with an RPG since KotOR. It's certainly RPG of the year for me, if not Game of the Year (although I'm yet to play something better).

H.Bogard
11-05-2008, 06:31 PM
RPG of the year would have to be Witcher Enhanced Edition (Though technically it was 2007)

And to whoever called this game's graphics the best ones ever: PLUCK YOUR GODDAM EYES OUT!

I don't see anything special about it so far. It feels too much like Oblivion to be a fresh experience to me.

Variable Gear
11-05-2008, 08:47 PM
hold on now there...

It sure as hell does not have best graphics. Poor animations and ugly models hold it back.
Voice acting... eh, they are good for some of the characters, but not all of them, it's no Mass Effect.
The SP experince is good, as I very rarely get taken out of it, but I am not sure if it's THE BEST.
You'll have your own vote when the time comes. And, don't worry, many people will be voting for Fallout 3.

Purple Santa
11-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Hehe, that was a great game.
It's a handheld so it won't get considered. And it's considered quirky. I think it's the most original game to come out of SE in quite a while. We had a great thread over on EvAv on this game.
Will be the portable GotY; but it shouldn't be because it's got technical issues, is on a portable, is on a Nintendo system, is a jRPG, and generally sucks all sorts of ballsacks. Plus it's about gay men looking for clothes.
So you sound like you really loved it and hoping with us it's GOTY ;)
Unsurprisingly, I'm still hoping that TWEWY wins a ton of handheld awards.
Handheld awards, yes. I'm hoping it's not forgotten... I still think it contends for GOTY despite it being on the DS...
Fallout 3 is GotY - the Bible tells me so (John 5:2)
I though that said "Johan". :eek:

Variable Gear
11-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Handheld awards, yes. I'm hoping it's not forgotten... I still think it contends for GOTY despite it being on the DS...
I agree with you. That was one great game.

SilentScreams
11-06-2008, 07:48 AM
I don't see why a handheld game can't be GotY.
Fun is the same regardless of what platform you play the game on. If you had more fun with TWEWY than a PC/console game, then it should get the vote for GotY.

I know what you guys are saying though. It probably won't win it, simply because it's not mainstream enough, and handhelds unfortunately don't get the recognition that the technologically superior consoles and PCs get.
To be honest, if people didn't rave about TWEWY on EvAv, it would have never even been on my radar. I'm so glad I played it, but I could have easily missed it. I imagine a lot of people did.

Gorvi
11-06-2008, 07:50 AM
I don't see why a handheld game can't be GotY.
Jeanne d'Arc was the GotY last year, a lot of people just didn't realize it. ;)

Mdot
11-06-2008, 07:51 AM
If you asked me Wednesday night, I would have said yes.

But then Gears 2 came along......

Tayaya
11-06-2008, 08:07 AM
Jeanne d'Arc was the GotY last year, a lot of people just didn't realize it. ;)

Damn fanboy... put the PSP away! Though part of me agrees with you! I finally started playing that and Killzone: Liberation recently (when the PSP-3000 came out) and both are really solid, AAA games. Well, maybe a AA for Killzone... but it's still really good.

Dark Prince
11-06-2008, 09:42 AM
Ehh, personally I think we should be waiting till the end of the year to really call anything GotY mostly because it isn't even the end of November yet.

While, I wouldn't call Fallout 3 Game of the year, IMO, it does come close in different categories though.

maybeme
11-06-2008, 09:49 AM
Got into it for the first time last night as I got the guns skill high enough to quit missing over and over. It was really pulling me in but then Little Big Planet finished updating and there was really no contest over where the rest of my night was going.

Primus
11-06-2008, 09:58 AM
Got into it for the first time last night as I got the guns skill high enough to quit missing over and over. It was really pulling me in but then Little Big Planet finished updating and there was really no contest over where the rest of my night was going.

Yeah there really is no comparison if you ask me.

I am excited for a lot of these games, but none of them are on the level of LBP.

Fallout 3 has turned out ot be exactly what I expected, Oblivion with a new coat of paint. They made some improvements here and there, and there are some new concepts, but as I play everything feels very familiar.

I know people are claiming that some of us are being premature but do you seriously think GoW2 or L4D are going to revolutionize anything? They will be good games, no doubt, but I am confident that LBP has it in the bag for me.

Blue
11-06-2008, 10:06 AM
It's definitely a better game than Mass Effect.

You shut your filthy mouth.

Xydarc
11-06-2008, 11:14 AM
The more I play LittleBigPlanet, the less I'm inclined to play other games. Even with BioShock, Red Alert 3, Resistance 2, Fallout 3; LBP keeps me coming back for more.

Druxk
11-06-2008, 11:28 AM
As far as overall innovation is concerned, Little Big Planet and MGS4 are probably the top two contenders. I loved Fallout 3, but not enough people will for it to win. I'm a huge Gears fan, but even I will admit they will need to completely blow this one out of the water to even get on the radar for GOTY.